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The last thread can be found here : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373580.page

From the BL Blog

Thursday 2nd of February, 2012

THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA CONVENE

Today there’s something big going on in the Black Library office. The authors of the Horus Heresy have convened for a top secret meeting that will determine the fate of millions.

Over the past few days, you have been posting your questions on our Facebook page; here’s what they had to say.



How hard is it, as authors, reigning in artistic licence when bringing to life something that has been rigidly laid down in Warhammer 40,000 lore since its inception?

Graham McNeill: Part of the fun is that it’s not that rigid.

Dan Abnett: There is a lot of material to draw on and it’s about respecting that while trying to find the angle that you want to approach it from.

Graham McNeill: There are established events like Calth and Prospero that people know a bit about, but we can add in things that you didn’t know, so that you come away knowing more than you did before.

There have been hints at how the Grey Knights were founded, any chance of a full story into how the Inquisition was established and the great secret behind the ‘I’?

James Swallow: I was deliberately subtle with this, perhaps too subtle, as everyone seems to miss it. Malcador’s symbol was an eye, and that is what Garro wears on his shoulder. I was playing around with the fact that it is impossible to tell the difference between ‘eye’ and ‘I’ when you are listening to an audio drama. I was interested in exploring the concept of things twisting and changing over time.

As for the Grey Knights, Garro and the Knights Errant are the root of the chapter, but there is a long way to go before they become what we now know. I like to think that Codex: Grey Knights contains the very end of their creation myth, while the Garro series explores the very beginning.

How much does fan interaction help or hinder your own writing process?

James Swallow: I like talking to fans, because I am a fan of so many things myself, so I can really relate to their excitement and enthusiasm. I regularly drop into my local Games Workshop Hobby Centre and chatting to the staff and customers there can reinvigorate my passion and enthusiasm for my writing.

What, of all the things written, both by yourself or others, have you found to be the most heart-rending or soul searching of events or characters within the Heresy?

Graham McNeill: I definitely had a lump in my throat when Torgaddon died.

Gav Thorpe: Corax’s single tear in Raven’s Flight as he realises the galaxy has changed and doesn’t know where he fits in it anymore.

Dan Abnett: I don’t have a specific event, but I love the fact that, before he falls, Horus Lupercal is such a likeable character. It makes it much more tragic when he does turn.

James Swallow: I really liked the moment in Flight of the Eisenstein when the planet is virus bombed and Temeter nobly sacrifices himself.

Do you find it difficult to write scenes for the Primarchs because of their powerful stature in the Warhammer 40,000 universe?

Dan Abnett: I actually find it easier than writing dialogue for Space Marines. Primarchs are superhuman, but Space Marines seem to straddle both worlds. I suppose writing about superheroes for so long helps a bit.

James Swallow: You have to remember to be epic, but not all the time. You have to be able to give them depth.

Will you ever do a book from the Emperor’s point of view?

Dan Abnett: We have been tempted, but we don’t think it would work. The Emperor exists in both the warp and reality simultaneously… how do you even approach writing that?

Gav Thorpe: Throughout the series, you see many facets of the Emperor, but you never truly know what he thinks. If we did try, it might ruin the mystery behind him.

James Swallow: He’s a truly alien character, beyond trans-human.

Can the last line in the last Heresy book be “I was there the day the Emperor killed Horus”?

Dan, Gav, Graham, James: Maybe *laughs*

Thanks guys, I’ll let you get back to work now.

The latest Horus Heresy book, Know No Fear, is available now, and in June we will continue this epic saga with The Primarchs, an anthology of four novellas, each dealing with one (or in one case, two) of the Emperor’s sons.

Finally, join us tomorrow on the blog where we will spend some time with the sons of Fenris as we slip the leash and unleash Lone Wolves on the world.




Looks like we've found the picture we'll use for the next Dakka Dakka caption competition too.

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, and in June we will continue this epic saga with The Primarchs, an anthology of four novellas, each dealing with one (or in one case, two) of the Emperor’s sons.


- in one case,two.... means Alpha legion, right?




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No, sadly.

I think one story is possibly another Fulgrim/Ferrus tale.

Maybe?

I'd be happy if Alpharius and Omegon were placed back into the capable hands of Mr. Abnett next time out though...

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Who's the fella on the far left?

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The Alpha Legion story was taken out, and if I'm not mistaken the Fulgrim story is about the Emperor's Children going exorcist on their primarch. Ferrus Manus has his own story. The other two are The Lion and Konrad Curze. I've no idea which story focusses on two Primarchs.
   
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After a while threads become a bit unwieldy and most of that threadn was so last year anyway.

Far left gentleman is Mr. Kyme.

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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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reds8n wrote: After a while threads become a bit unwieldy and most of that threadn was so last year anyway.



...if you say so....

 
   
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Whoops. I meant far right.

I see Kyme, Abnett (<3), Thorpe, McNiell, Swallow and...?

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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman

"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
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Anyone else reading Know No Fear? I'm about halfway through, but Mr Abnett is restoring my faith in the series. It's a book about a legion I hate, covering an event I'm already familiar with, but I'm gripped like I haven't been in a long time. There have been a couple of instances where he's thrown out a teaser of a bomb he's about to drop, and I've thought no way, he's not going to go there. He did, and it was awesome.

For those expecting no surprises, there are epic massive turbo spoilers that I'm not going to go anywhere near, but you can be sure that this book changes the series. I have a ways to go, but he'd have to pull an Outcast Dead and retcon the Battle of Terra to before the Dropsite Massacre to ruin this one.

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I'm about 3/4s of the way through and am very happy with how things are shaping up.

I think the style and format fits the scale of the event very well indeed, Mr. Abnett's deft touch quickly gives you a feel for even minor characters so that you feel something for them and are keen to see what happens to them.

Spoiler:
And I must admit I totally wasn't expecting the appearance of .... a certain pious fellow .. here and done like this. Can't wait to see where they're going with this.


And in BL news..


This rather imposing chap will be gracing the front cover of Nick Kyme’s Tome of Fire anthology, a collection of stories featuring characters you may recognise from the Salamanders trilogy.

Tome of Fire is on sale in December and is sure to be a hot favourite for Christmas (do you get it? ‘HOT favourite’ because he’s on fire- sometimes I even amaze myself), but those of you lucky enough to come to the Black Library Weekender will be able to get your hands on a copy early. If you’re really lucky, Nick might even sign it for you. Tickets for the Weekender go on sale at 20:00 GMT on Friday the Tenth, that’s only four days away.
For more information, check out the Black Library Weekender event page.


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So happy that we have to wait so much longer to read KNOW NO FEAR here in the USA... ugh.

   
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finished the Know No Fear ebook a week ago...
what a great read...

@Alpharius: the BL app for the ipad has had the novel up for 8 days already...

cheers
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Just Dave wrote:Whoops. I meant far right.

I see Kyme, Abnett (<3), Thorpe, McNiell, Swallow and...?


Thats Laurie Goulding aka Shroudfilm


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jah-joshua wrote:finished the Know No Fear ebook a week ago...
what a great read...

@Alpharius: the BL app for the ipad has had the novel up for 8 days already...

cheers
jah


I'm no Luddite (clearly!) but I do admit to enjoying actual books vs. electronic versions - especially at the 'no price break for a clearly cheaper to produce product' price point...

   
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a story that focuses on 2 primarchs? lion and the wolf maybe?
   
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Don't worry Alph, I still haven't got it yet either...

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Just Dave wrote:Whoops. I meant far right.

I see Kyme, Abnett (<3), Thorpe, McNiell, Swallow and...?


Thats Laurie Goulding aka Shroudfilm




Ah thanks. Still don't know who that is, but the more you know and all that...

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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman

"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
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Laurie Goulding aka Shroudfilm, Grand Poobah of the super-excellent Pre-Heresy focused website, The Great Crusade!

http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Crusade/index.php?&

Also a (I think!) freelancer that does a lot of stuff with Black Library, especially on the "Black Library TV" stuff...

   
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hey, Alpharius...
i hear you man...
i've only just started using the BL app, and it made me so sad to buy my first ebook...
it does not give the same sense of satisfaction that a real book in hand does...

for me, since i live in a sleepy little surf village in Mexico, it is hard to wait for someone coming to visit from the states that can bring me a few books...
we don't have a post office, and international shipping via courier is steep...

fortunately, my ipad was a gift from Nike 6.0, so i didn't have to shell out $500 just to be able to get the ebooks in the first place...
i just have people bring me $15 iTunes cards from the states...
i still itch to get back to L.A. every six months and grab a few "real" books...

as for the pricing, you are right on the money for the normal books, but there are some gems in the shop...
they now sell the omnibus short stories for $2.99...
this awesome for me, since i always buy the novels long before an omnibus is published, and i was always bummed that they included unique short stories...
Space Marine Battles novels are cheaper at $7.99...
new hardbacks are $11.99, so half-price...
Hammer and Bolter emag is cool, but $3.99 feels expensive for some reason (maybe because most of the stuff will eventually be republished in novels and anthologies)...

finally, i just got the LE Iron Warriors novella for $4.99 as a ebook!!!

just a few good points...
the downside is that books still feel better to read than a tablet, and the LE book didn't have the artwork:(...

cheers
jah


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The Black Library Weekender tickets went on sale tonight at 20:00

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Warhammer/weekender-2012-silver-ticket.html

The £250 gold ticket -- phone orders only -- is also available.. although t'would seem some have gone already so if you want'em...

Made do with a regular old silver ticket myself, thank you very much.

EDIT : 20:18.. all the Golden tickets have sold out. IIRC there were 18 of them....

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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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I have read Know no Fear - this was rather an .. unexpected book. I didn't realise how ... damaging the battle for Calth would be, not just for Calth the planet, but Ultramar in general.

Anyway, any more would be spoilers, but its a great read. Dan Abnett has done his usual thing and created a rather unique 'viewpoint' for the Ultramarines - certain modes of communication, set phrases, a distinctive mindset that comes across in the story - just as he did with the post-viking Space Wolves and the secretive Alpha Legion.

However, Dan frigging hates writing about the Primarchs. Legion, well, they were secretive in that book, so ok. Prospero Burns ... well, I was a bit weirded out by Russ only turning up for like 10 pages total, but that's ok too, cause it was a great read anyway.

And in this? Guilliaman just is around a bit, and does some things, but is involved in maybe 15-20 pages total, if you added it all up, and the protagonist for about... 10. Most of which is Dragonball Z stuff.

But still a great read.

 
   
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lords2001 wrote: Most of which is Dragonball Z stuff.


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Sorry I didn't follow Black Library news and rumours up to now but I started reading Gaunt's Ghosts this year and I only have 2 books left to read. So I wanted to know if the next Gaunt's Ghosts book is coming anytime soon.

 
   
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Salvation's Reach just came out in hardcover last October I think?

It is probably due to hit paperback sometime by mid to late 2012?

Anyway, if you've already got that one, it might be a while until the next.


   
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Thanks, yeah I have read that one.

BTW

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Alpharius wrote:I'm no Luddite (clearly!) but I do admit to enjoying actual books vs. electronic versions - especially at the 'no price break for a clearly cheaper to produce product' price point...


There's not just savings in production but also distribution/shipping. Selling via the 2-3 tiered system to books stores means they'll probably see half the cover price whereas they see 100% of the electronic. Less cost, no middlemen... I guess in true corporate fashion passing on a part of that savings isn't justified. There also maybe some behind the scenes contract stipulations about offering digital products less than the physical (as in a big name book chain might not carry the products if they do).

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There also maybe some behind the scenes contract stipulations about offering digital products less than the physical (as in a big name book chain might not carry the products if they do).


That is probably a big part of it - but it certainly keeps me from buying digital...

   
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Few titbits and odds and sods

The current issue of Hammer and Bolter contains a sample of Gav Thorpe's forthcoming "The Lion" novella.
On their blog they posted a snippet from part 2

Lashing out withan armoured boot, the Lion sent the hound-like beast tumbling down the corridor. Taking half a dozen strides, the primarch brought both of his swords down across its back as it tried to right itself, carving it into three pieces that spattered into gore across the decking.

He stopped for a moment to assess the situation. The flight of stairs down to the main core chamber was only fifty metres ahead, and the passageway was free of enemies. He could hear his company fighting behind him, the retort of bolters echoing up from the stairwell he had just left. Though he knew his little brothers were in a dire situation, he had to focus on his objective: regaining control of the core so that the warp engines and Geller field could be engaged.

The comm buzzed as he stepped forwards, and he heard Corswain’s voice. The seneschal sounded strained, as if speaking through gritted teeth.

‘My liege, the way is clear to the warp core. You must come at once. There is something else here, something we cannot destroy.’ The comm-link hissed for a few seconds. ‘It… It wants to speak with you.’



Spoiler:
... a certain character ... well... off with his head !


Mr. Swallow was kind enough to share a few details about his eagerly anticipated "Fear to Tread", which sees the BA get some HH loving

1) there will be word bearers in novel.

2) the Red Angel will be explored.

3) Amit, founder of the flesh tearers, plays an important role in novel. as well as other successor characters.

4) the story will cross many worlds in the Signus cluster besides Signus Prime

5) Roldoron will also play a major role.

6) The BA libarians will have plenty to do in the novel.


And they also unveiled the cover for "The Sundering" omnibus, which collects Mr. Thorpe's Elven trilogy.

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I'm a bit nervous about how the BA's will be handled by Mr. Swallow in "Fear to Tread" because his work on them in the 'current' 40K timeline... leaves a lot to be desired.

Having said that, his Horus Heresy novel was pretty good - so... there's hope... I guess?

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