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Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

I had the pleasure to participate in a Geek Nation Tour hosted by Teras Cassidy at Adepticon 2012.

I heard about Geek Nation on 40k Radio Podcasts, and the idea sounded intriguing. But before I get ahead of myself, a little background -

I am a modeller and painter, I have never picked up dice for a Wargame. It has always been a relaxing, solo event for me to work on a model. The hobby was a quiet pursuit for me, none of my friends or acquaintances were involved with anything like it and I didn't feel any need to try and interest them, it was always my alone time thing. After getting back into the hobby after a nearly decade long break in Oct 2009 (Thank you Space Hulk, you and your nostalgia ended up costing me thousands in the last 3 years lol), I quickly became a frequent user of one of Wargaming's most famous forums, Dakka Dakka. Over time I was surprised to find myself in the position of Mod there.

As a result of my participation in the site, for the first time I had a real reason to attend an event as I had made many friends with other Dakka users and of course the staff there. The breaking point was when the Adepticon big-cheese himself, Hank Edley, contacted me for some help designing various things for the convention. As I began to work on the projects, I also saw that almost the entire Dakka staff would be going as well, and this cinched my decision to attend. Curiosity to actually see in person this world I had enmeshed myself in was intense as you might imagine. This would likely be the only time that many of us would be in the same place as well.

The thing was, I was a bit nervous to attend, as I did not want to pester anyone to babysit me (a stranger in many ways despite our daily interactions) or to find myself without much to do since I didn't wargame. Listening to a 40k Radio Podcast, the solution presented itself. Geek Nation Tours.

Teras' pitch is simple, and to the point. Geek Nations offers you a simple, no hassle vacation with everything taken care of and tons of extras. All you have to do is show up at the airport on your end. Part of the bonus in taking a Geek Nation Tour is that there is a built in group to travel and hang out with, as much or as little as you want to, no pressure either way.

Now, what was the precise experience like for me?

- I signed up, selecting my classes and events to attend as any normal Adpeticon user would, informing Teras of my choices. It was guaranteed that I would get into the events I wanted to, and I was also automatically upgraded to VIG status (Very Important Gamer), which would mean a big swag bag and also early access to some events and the vendor area every day.
- Teras was immediately in regular contact, at least once a week, with either updates on general events, or to simply check if everything was ok on my end.
- I booked my tickets, informed Teras of my flight times. (Note, if necessary, Teras can book your tickets for you. Helpful for younger customers I would expect.)
- Many updates followed, making sure we heard about whatever new Adepticon news was coming out in the interim. One update was particularly important as a class was cancelled and we were given the option to replace or remove it and get a refund. This was quickly sorted out, Teras made sure of it.
- In the last week Teras sent over a very thorough 8 page schedule and itinerary, covering our schedules, what to do and where to go in all situations, and giving his contact numbers. I knew exactly where to be and what my options were at any given time for the entire trip.
- Finally, the time for the Con came (with a few months between sign-up and event) and I hopped my plane.
- I arrived to a scheduled pick up by a chauffeured town car, Teras checked in via Text around pick-up time to ensure I was in the right spot and everything was good.
- Arrived at the venue. Teras was front and center to greet me, ensure I got registered and booked in etc. After I dropped off my bags, he gave me a tour of the venue, introducing me to a few notable people along the way. After about 20-30 minutes, he asked if I wanted to join other tour members for a bite and led me into the attached restaurant and introduced me to several other GNT customers, all really nice guys.
- Later that night was the only pseudo-obligatory event to attend, a special GNT tour dinner, with several notable guest speakers from Bell of Lost Souls, Battlefoam, Black Library, Mantic and Privateer press as well as Adepticon brass.
- There were scheduled dinners and get-togethers every night, completely optional to attend, but available.
- Teras held a final night get-together in his suite before the official Adepticon final events (poker tournament etc). At this get-together, which I sadly missed, there was a taping of a 40k radio Podcast with Romeo himself. As a fan and recent acquaintance, I kicked myself on that one!
- Finally, it was time to go, and Teras was up til 4.30 AM making sure I made it to my very early ride to the airport.

Now, was I with GNT every second I was there? No, absolutely not. The other Dakka guys were just as awesome in real life as they were online, and we all seemed to hit it off very nicely. I ended up spending a great deal of time with them and running around to my classes. Talking with Hank, Romeo, Chris Borer, Matt Fontaine and Justin from Secret Weapon took up a good chunk of time too. What a generous, skilled and interesting bunch of guys... honestly for me, being my first live event to be able to just walk up and have a pretty long chat with each of them was both a pleasure and educational in each case. Only in our little corner of hobbies or interests are all-stars so easily accessible and down to earth... awesome! I really only ended up spending the first day with GNT before going off on my own things.

Now, maybe that last bit made you say 'Doesn't sound worth it then'? Let me tell you, it was most certainly worth it. Why? Because even if I didn't 'use' GNT every second of the day, Teras was always, always available and ready to help, and he did on several occasions (helping me locate people and items at various times). At all times, I knew where he was, what he was doing and was reminded of notable upcoming events via his text updates. Had I needed anything, and I mean anything, he would be right there to help make it happen. Staying up til 4.30 AM just to make sure my early morning ride to the airport showed up being just one example.

I don't know about you, but being on a trip knowing that everything is taken care of and you have help at hand at all times has a lot of value to me. The fact everything was delivered exactly as promised, with no let downs is also a pretty rare thing these days.

Now, to the question all other questions lead to... 'Ya, but what was the cost for that???'

The cost of doing it yourself -
Hotel Costs for Thursday to Sunday nights...$510.00 tax in
Welcome Dinner with industry guests including the AdeptiCon crew and Black Library plus others $75.00
VIG upgrade but with special Geek Nation Tours addition - all the good stuff the VIG gives you but with the ability to purchase it months in advance guaranteed (unlike via their cart where the upgrade was sold out in 3 hours). The special GNT upgrades also include pre-public registration. This means you get to register for events prior to anyone else. You get to secure your space in the 40K Championship for instance which sells out almost immediately. Thus GNT upgrade VIG $80.00 (double the cost of an weekend pass for argument)
Cab to Westin Lombard return $120.00
AdeptiCon Sunday Mixer and/or D6 Generation Boardgame night $30.00
Transfers to the Friday and Saturday night dinners plus two transfers to liquor store $30.00 by cab
TOTAL $845.00

Plus other things that are harder to price...
Battlefoam and Weekend pass draws (3 bags + 10 weekend passes) ....but not really a cost you can add...
Private guide to make sure you get to the hotel and to all AdeptiCon events and nightly GNT events... again I can't really give a cost
Carefree travel with all the details taken care of which leaves a participant with only the AdeptiCon goodness to enjoy
Pre or post holiday planning. If you want to stay longer or come early GNT takes care of that too....Want to go to Vegas post AdeptiCon? Washington by train prior?

The Geek Nation Tour cost -
The costs for the Geek Nation Tours package is $650.00 for double occupancy and $925.00 for single. So if you come by yourself and are willing to share a room you would save about $240.00. If you come as a single occupant you would pay about $80.00 more for all the bonuses as per the above...

Final Tally -
So, as you can see, a GNT tour costs pretty damn close to doing it yourself as far as I can gather, except you get all those bonuses, help and peace of mind... if all that ends up costing 80 bucks extra, I'll call that the bargain of the century and leave it at that.

Would I recommend it, and to whom?
I would recommend, if you couldn't tell, the tour to anyone based solely on value added in terms of convenience. It's pretty simple. But, I would say that to truly take advantage of everything Teras offers, however, I feel maximum advantage is gained by travelling with a group of friends together, or if you are going and don’t know anyone. That way, you are free to benefit from the GNT group and not be drawn off by too many other things. Like I said though, either way, you come out a winner.

Hope the above is helpful to anyone on the fence about it or looking to enhance their convention experience! A small reminder though, GNT has plenty of events throughout the year, some comic related, some military-historical related, some wargaming related. There is plenty more going on than just Adepticon, awesome convention though it may be!

Thanks for a great weekend Teras!

Sincerely, MajorTom11, DakkaDakka.

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Made in jp
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Somewhere in south-central England.

It sounds like they did a bang-up job for you.

I would like to hear about one of the foreign tours. I know they did one that included Corfe Castle last year.

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Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Omadon's Realm

I'm very interested, by that review, in potentially signing up for next year. Would be Mrs S and I, but she would not be interested in gaming but highly likely in painting and modelling tutorials. I wonder how much versatility there is in tailoring specific things for each of us?



 
   
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Manchester, NH

I believe each person gets their own events and itinerary, though of course the dinners and stuff are for the group.

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Made in ca
Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings






Sunny SoCal

There are in fact tour packages available for spouses too, for example at Adepticon, they would have been scheduled up to take in the local sites, museums shopping etc. Teras actually makes a point of offering a non-geek experience for spouses and children

I would definitely ask him about it!

I let him know about this thread, so I am sure he will be along in due time to answer in better detail than I could.

   
Made in ca
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Hinton, AB Canada

Hello All,

First off thank you MajorTom11 for the review. We work hard at Geek Nation Tours trying to make the tour and the event are the very best. I am glad you feel we delivered everything in a professional but fun way. We are well aware that this may be the only time you travel throughout the year and want your holiday to be a memorable one. BTW it was great to meet you and if you ever want to join us again we would be happy to have you onboard.

I see that there are several questions. I hope I can answer them for you all…

Kilkrazy we do several tours abroad but in September we will return to England to do our “Geeking Out with Miniatures in England” tour. This is the one you thinking of. It is one of our very best tours with people from all around the world joining us in the UK. It is great to see people coming together and making friendships and enjoying that specific Geeky thing they love as a group. We changed the itinerary slightly to head more north this time. We try to alter the itinerary to give repeats a different view of the English countryside. We also return to Games Day UK and of course Warhammer World.

You can see the full itinerary at: http://www.geeknationtours.com/index.php?pageid=31&tourid=12 . Keep in mind however that we only do this tour once every two years and we are departing September 18th 2012 so the next one won’t be until 2014. If you are interested you can join with no money down at: http://www.geeknationtours.com/index.php?pageid=4

MeanGreenStompa we do indeed customize the tour for couples. We can get you gaming and her into seminars and such. The main way we do this is we have pre-public VIG access to the AdeptiCon cart. This means that not only do you get all the cool stuff associated with Adepticon’s Very Important Gamer package but you also get to grab your events (tournis and seminars) well before the general public has access to them. So no matter where you come from you don’t have to worry about the events you want being sold out. For instance, you are basically guaranteed to be in the 40K Championship and that particular painting seminar you had your eye on for so long. Note also that we offer non-geek spouse tours that while they need a minimum of 6 to be confirmed we can offer both of you trips into Chicago to explore the area… You can see what we offered this year here: http://www.geeknationtours.com/index.php?pageid=31&tourid=14

Further Mannahnin is correct. I try to offer as much freedom as possible on the tour so you can come and go as you please. We do however have several dinners where we offer time to talk about the days AdeptiCon War stories and experiences, and to pass on advice on what to do the next day (along with a good meal and some beers). If for instance your wife is in a seminar and you are done gaming we would be happy to have you come with us and I would make sure it was possible for her to come join us later…Our traditional Welcome Dinner is normally on Thursdays so there is typically less going on seminar and tourni-wise so you will be treated to great Q&As by a variety of wargaming celebrities.

The AdeptiCon crew tells me that they will be releasing the Dates for AdeptiCon 2013 asap… And as soon as I have those I will be able to release to tour… I have some even cooler stuff in store for us next year but can’t let you know about it quite yet... Here is the tour description of this year: http://www.geeknationtours.com/index.php?pageid=31&tourid=10

If you have any questions at all or would like me to notify you when we release the 2013 AdeptiCon tour please email me at headgeek@geeknationtours.com

Teras
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Made in ca
Hacking Shang Jí





Calgary, Great White North

Glad to hear you enjoyed your trip.

On a completely unrelated note, MeanGreenStompa, I'm in love with your new sig. Was that from last night's episode?

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