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Thread title says it all. 6th edition is coming, and I have received word that we are close enough to the date that the managers have been trained in the new system, to be ready when it is released. Now, all we need to know is which manager has the loosest lips, and how fast can we get him a bottle of fine whiskey.

So training would also imply they have had to see and/or read material relative to 6th edition.

Is there any word how they got their training and/or if there was any tangible documentation about the ruleset that had to be memorized?

Where id you receive this 'word'? A manager? Perhaps that source that gave you the word has the looser lips.

Exploit your source's loose lips. Convince their loose lips to go down on you with information.

Well the GW up the road from me is closing down. The manager is moving back to the city store, so he probably knows.

If store managers were trained in it, we would know everything by now.

Won't you please think of the careers of these poor managers!

There have been no leaks from the manager at the St. Louis GW, but he did take some kind of training trip down to the Memphis Factory Store. Could have been 6th edition related, or might not have been. Either way, I think we already know 6th edition is coming in the next month or so.

helium42 wrote:There have been no leaks from the manager at the St. Louis GW, but he did take some kind of training trip down to the Memphis Factory Store. Could have been 6th edition related, or might not have been. Either way, I think we already know 6th edition is coming in the next month or so.

yeah, the guy keeps talking about it on Facebook. He has been down there like 3 times in the last month, it actually seems feasible that they are doing this.

Really?

The GW staff members are there to sell. I doubt that they get training. They can skim through the rulebook in their spare time, but they wouldn't take 'em away to train.

You need to know what you sell..

BrookM wrote:You need to know what you sell..

With GW sometimes this is hard to believe.
"You play foot guard, surely you need to add a Chimera for your commissar."

M.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Really?

The GW staff members are there to sell. I doubt that they get training. They can skim through the rulebook in their spare time, but they wouldn't take 'em away to train.

But I thought that they also introduced players to the game and stuff? I've never been in a GW store before so I've only got what I've heard from other people.

When a friend of mine worked at Gamestop, he was told to play every new game that came out...even the crappy ones, so that they could have a good idea of what the game is about so they could better inform the customer.

With so many armies, and the varient army types, it's probably going to take a while for them to re-train people in how it works.

Managers from all over the USA went to that meeting in Memphis. Given that the manager of the Seattle bunker was supposed to be giving a presentation, I really doubt it was all about 6th Edition. I honestly don't think they even discussed it. Retail staff usually know about releases the same time we do.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Really?

The GW staff members are there to sell. I doubt that they get training. They can skim through the rulebook in their spare time, but they wouldn't take 'em away to train.

Yeah, this is daft.

The main reason for GW stores to exist is to spread the word and sell. You can do neither if you can't run a demo game or talk about he game.

An interesting hypothesis, but with a couple of flaws:
- I learned 5th edition in half a game and about 30 minutes. If this was some radical new system with the depths of Infinity I could understand this, but we all know it won't be. The same could be accomplished by giving them the book to take home a couple of days before launch.
- A lot of GW managers are yes-men/sycophants, and indeed I believe one of the requirements these days for the job is that you can roll your eyes up into your head so only the whites are visible, but some are just pretending to be like this to keep their jobs. We would have had a leak by now.

last time i checked GW requre their staore staff to have at leasta workign knowledge of all 3 games (40k, Fantasy and LOTR).

Whiel knowledge of expansions (apoc, planetstrike etc) could be left the ther astaff to research themselves, due to there nto being too uch to learn, a whoel new set of rules i can see requireign some actual structured training to get to grips with quickly.

i can see pulling staff out for 6th ed training. I'm surprised they're only starting it now to be honest.

If GW managers were trained in 6th ed wouldn't we have some sort of leak by now?

ph34r wrote:If GW managers were trained in 6th ed wouldn't we have some sort of leak by now?

Yes, I believe we would.

ph34r wrote:If GW managers were trained in 6th ed wouldn't we have some sort of leak by now?

No the chip in the back of their head prevents this.....

With GW sometimes this is hard to believe.
"You play foot guard, surely you need to add a Chimera for your commissar."

M.

The manager of GW Helsinki in Finland who also travels to GW Stockholm in Sweden all the time knows absolutely nothing and I'm sure of it. As a matter of fact I couldn't agree more with you about the fact that GW employees generally don't even know the rules of their games all that well, not to mention what people actually should buy in order to make competitive or even playable armies. As far as rumours go, all they've done for quite some time now is try to explain how cool it is that noone has absolutely no idea what is coming up and what's getting released. The manager keeps telling everyone he doesn't want to know what's coming and always says that 'once' when he had heard about upcoming models his excitement had already died down when the models eventually got released. I'm not kidding, a week ago when I was discussing the releases for this summer I got a sales pitch about how buying random models all the time is fun and that armies should be built when in a heat -- So basically I shouldn't think at all what I'm buying or wait for any units or armies that I actually want, need or like, I should just buy buy buy right now. That's the GW sales method.

notprop wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Really?

The GW staff members are there to sell. I doubt that they get training. They can skim through the rulebook in their spare time, but they wouldn't take 'em away to train.

Yeah, this is daft.

The main reason for GW stores to exist is to spread the word and sell. You can do neither if you can't run a demo game or talk about he game.

This was certainly true when I worked in a GW store some years back. You needed to be pretty fluent in the rules of Fantasy and 40K, but your knowledge of the codices was less important. Hence why staff might try to sell you stupid things at time - they're probably just guessing at what fits in your army.

Yeah, you apparently need a working knowledge of the MECHANICS of the game, but don't need to know what's effective at all.

Praxiss wrote:last time i checked GW requre their staore staff to have at leasta workign knowledge of all 3 games (40k, Fantasy and LOTR).

This was also my understanding. However, my experience is that GW staff really do not know the core rules. Thus, I do not think that they are trained or tested on the rules.

This being said, I am sure that the staff will get some info about 6th ed. This may consist of how to run a demo game, which should not be confused with a real game. They will also probably be provided with a sheet that outlines the differences between 5th and 6th. However, all such training could happen rather late.

Given that there have been no confirmed leaks from store staff, I suspect that they have not been trained. Store staff turn over constantly. Thus you would expect that their loyalty to the company would not be as high as other employees.

The quarterly manager meeting was eariler this week, last time they got together was when they were trained on the new paints, so not surprised at all if this is true, we are due for a 40k dex release in June. If we get nothing first week of June we know for a fact 6th is coming the first week of July as it has been fortold.

Cerebrium wrote:Yeah, you apparently need a working knowledge of the MECHANICS of the game, but don't need to know what's effective at all.

This is true, as long as you know 1 system and get the just of the rest its fine, you are encouraged to learn all the games while working though.

Cerebrium wrote:Yeah, you apparently need a working knowledge of the MECHANICS of the game, but don't need to know what's effective at all.

Why, that's what Dakka's for! If you're trying to sell the dollies, everything is effective. Especially new things. Especially in large numbers.

ph34r wrote:If GW managers were trained in 6th ed wouldn't we have some sort of leak by now?

They make them sign a non disclosure agreement with heavy legal action attached. It was about a week before the solid rumours of the paints started getting posted, so give it time.

Just think for a second...If the leaked book was more in tune with the actual release than we thought, and the game is changing dramatically, then surely some training will be required?

Nope, no training at all. Otherwise wouldn't there be some discovery of rules that break the game and all other types of shenanigans? I surmise they get the book to read on those two days the stores aren't open and go from there.

I call BS on this, its way to early for anyone in retail to be learning 6th edition rules, give it 4 or 5 weeks then maybe.
I also doubt very much training will be required past a read through the rule book and some GW issue store cheat sheets.

You will know the 6th ed will be here when it will be in the warehouse. For now, no one gave some news about that.