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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 18:05:24
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Confessor Of Sins
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honestly... i think adding a priest with an evisorator to the DCA unit is always nice if you can fit the points... but not worth it in games under 2k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 18:08:27
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yeah, I am tempted to throw one in sometime, just for the giggles. The problem is, of course, that one of the key things it is good at (Scaring dreadnoughts) doesn't work because he is an IC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 18:44:42
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Confessor Of Sins
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pretre wrote:Yeah, I am tempted to throw one in sometime, just for the giggles. The problem is, of course, that one of the key things it is good at (Scaring dreadnoughts) doesn't work because he is an IC.
Sooo... a thought occured to me...... I don't have my codex at work... but can 4 priests with evisorators join a 20 woman strong BSS? thats pretty scarey if you ask me.... just a thought
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 18:51:32
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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You can take up to 5 priests and put them wherever you want, because they are ICs.
4 with Eviscerators is 280 points though. You somewhat mitigate the IC problem since you're guaranteeing one of them will still swing against a dread, but you're spending WAY too much to do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 20:12:59
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Olympia, WA
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It does make them kinda like another crazy hammer unit though. Im not saying do it but... Could be fun to go all kinds of crazy with priests. I ran a super priest army once in WH codex. it was "ok". very RPS. But fun.
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Hold out bait to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and then crush him.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:36:18
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Confessor Of Sins
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pretre wrote:You can take up to 5 priests and put them wherever you want, because they are ICs.
4 with Eviscerators is 280 points though. You somewhat mitigate the IC problem since you're guaranteeing one of them will still swing against a dread, but you're spending WAY too much to do it.
Lets be honest... dreads aren't scarey... you have melta guns EVERYWHERE check this 2k list out....
St Celestine 115
Uriah 90
4 Priests with evisorators 280
Battle conclave, 6 DCA, 3 Crusaders, rhino with Dozers 160
10 BSS with 2 melta, rhino with dozers 185
10 BSS with 2 melta, rhino with dozers 185
10 BSS with 2 melta, rhino with no dozer blades (had to for the pts) 180
20 BSS, 2 meltas 265
5 Dominions with 2 Meltas, combi melta, immolator with MM and Dozer 185
5 Dominions with 2 Meltas, combi melta, immolator with MM and Dozer 185
5 retributors with HBs 85
5 retributors with HBs 85
Priests do with the blob squad, they go in the SECOND row... basically so when you consolidate if assaulted you go into models that can't hurt you, and if you charge, you get into it with models of your choice... Lets be honest... we're good players here...
Uriah has a choice, he can go with the DCA... or with the blob if you like.... and switch a priest into the DCA... not a bad switch here
The only thing i don't like is the loss of exorcists.... I may test this out later...
Sure the priests are expensive... but they are an evisorator, 4+ invul, and chaplain rolled into one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:40:50
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yeah. I definitely am tempted by them. I would probably take them all the time if I could take 8 or 9 girl SoB squads or we had a 12 transport. It would be a great insurance policy for normal sisters. Kinda like spendy wolf guard.
If they had been thinking, they would have made then exactly like Royal Court or Wolf Guard, but oh well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:50:57
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Fresh-Faced New User
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In my Celestian and Canoness mob I have been quite tempted to through a priest in there. Changes it from being a decent enough assault unit to being pretty frightening on the turn it charges.
Though trying to switch something out for that priest really begins to squeeze the points and it is already a fairly expensive unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:54:50
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Confessor Of Sins
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novatomato wrote:In my Celestian and Canoness mob I have been quite tempted to through a priest in there. Changes it from being a decent enough assault unit to being pretty frightening on the turn it charges.
Though trying to switch something out for that priest really begins to squeeze the points and it is already a fairly expensive unit.
the better quesiton is... does the celestian faith rule allow our evisorators to be str 8 like hammer hand shenanigans?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:58:28
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Fresh-Faced New User
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frgsinwntr wrote:novatomato wrote:In my Celestian and Canoness mob I have been quite tempted to through a priest in there. Changes it from being a decent enough assault unit to being pretty frightening on the turn it charges.
Though trying to switch something out for that priest really begins to squeeze the points and it is already a fairly expensive unit.
the better quesiton is... does the celestian faith rule allow our evisorators to be str 8 like hammer hand shenanigans?
I would err on the side of it being str 7 ((3x2)+1) unless someone can show that it is quite clearly str 8 ((3+1)x2). If it were str 8 that would be pretty nifty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 23:42:36
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Preacher of the Emperor
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I'm pretty sure you multiply the base value then add the extra point on :(
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Gwar! wrote:Debate it all you want, I just report what the rules actually say. It's up to others to tie their panties in a Knot. I stopped caring long ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 00:30:56
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Confessor Of Sins
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J.Black wrote:I'm pretty sure you multiply the base value then add the extra point on :(
then how the hell does hammer hand stack : (
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 01:19:21
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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frgsinwntr wrote:J.Black wrote:I'm pretty sure you multiply the base value then add the extra point on :(
then how the hell does hammer hand stack : (
A specific exemption to a general rule granted to the GK for, apparently, no particular reason other than to make the GK roxor?
Valete,
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Valete,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 12:13:44
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Confessor Of Sins
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I suppose thats true... but the wording as far as i remember is Identical!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 13:33:05
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Except for the wording included with Hammerhand makes it different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 13:34:32
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Sister Vastly Superior
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I was messing with this Concept when I put up the Deathstar list. I was using Celestians, Jacobus ,Canoness. If you wanted to get stupid you could put Celestine and Jacob in the squad with 5 priest and a 20 man sister squad. I would kite out the VBS with power weapon also. Drop in 2 melta guns and call it a day.
You could also purchase a Immolator with TL MM to drop midfield on a DOW scenario to give them fire support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 15:24:03
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Repentia Mistress
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I don't think you can deploy any of the priests in DoW and you'd have to choose between Celestine and Jacobus as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 15:26:42
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Good point. Yeah, the priests are elite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 16:28:20
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Ok so you put jacobus in, then put the priests in the Immolator,run it across the field hop out and join the squad. Celestine would be getting there exactly the same time.
LOL didnt think I had to explain that....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 16:33:20
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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That's a bit complicated and assumes your opponent doesn't do anything during that time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 16:37:16
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Sister Vastly Superior
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... This coming from GTA Repentia
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 16:48:36
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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lol. Mine requires only one turn of movement (the first) to work. Yours requires two for multiple units and vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 17:57:25
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Olympia, WA
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"complicated" is not the same thing as INeffective. complicated can work. Same idea behind using Mandrakes really!
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Hold out bait to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and then crush him.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War
http://www.40kunorthodoxy.blogspot.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 18:33:54
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Repentia Mistress
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Jancoran wrote:"complicated" is not the same thing as INeffective. complicated can work. Same idea behind using Mandrakes really!
Sure, but each "moving part" of a scheme is a point of failure that an opponent can exploit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 18:34:41
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Exactly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 19:16:24
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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If anyones looking to buy some sisters, I have 18 serpahim and a full retinue with a female inquisitor if anyones interested.
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
10,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 19:26:29
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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You might want to try the Swap Shop for better results.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 20:05:29
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Olympia, WA
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Ill add those to the 34 seraphim I won. hehehe. and thats after I sold some.
Love those chix ta' death. What they did to that unit is a crying shame. Oh well. still...BAWOOOOOOOOSHH
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Hold out bait to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and then crush him.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War
http://www.40kunorthodoxy.blogspot.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 20:09:17
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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They've been pretty mediocre since the C: Chapter Approved book. Poor Seraphim, I do love them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 20:44:21
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I used them (seraphim) in a Kill Team tournament and they were very good for that. They are cheap and mobile with a good mix of shooting/assault.
I was at the top until the last round when I hit a GK player w/ strikes (I beat one running Paladins). The judge ruled he needed 1 psychic test to get hammerhand on all his guys while I had to test individually for Faith for each model. But for that ruling, I might have had a chance but S5 Stormbolters were too much.
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