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Currently built:
20 Kabalites - 2 Sybarite, 2 Phantasm Grenade Launcher, 2 Blaster
2 Raiders
6 Reavers - 2 Heat Lance/Blaster, 2 Cluster Caltrops
1 Archon - Ghost Armor, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Sitting at about 700 at most with upgrades

I'm really open to any of the units in the codex except wyches. I plan to make a court for the Archon and use 2 of them. I'd also like to use the Ravenwing or Voidraven, Scourges, and either, or both, Mandrakes or Incubi. I love all the units so I'm in a little need of help on where to aim.

Edited list:
1: 1 Archon - Agonizer, Ghostplate Armor, Shadowfield, Blast Pistol, 2 Lhamaean, 2 Sslyth, Venom
5: 5 Kabalite - 1 Blaster, Raider - Flickerfield
1: 1 Ravager - Flickerfield
1: 1 Razorwing - Flickerfield
2: 5 Scourges - 2 Blaster
2: 5 Trueborn - 4 Blaster, Venom

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/08/18 05:08:54


currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
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california

Alright, let me put this another way:

I need some advice on whether I should get more melee focus with some Wracks, Grotesques, Incubi, or Mandrakes with Raiders, or should I focus on more Reavers or pick up some Scourges, and get a couple Ravenwing/Voidraven keeping with ranged fighting?

I mostly fight Marine chapters, Necrons, and IG, if that helps.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/03 19:00:42


currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
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I'd suggest 2x Ravager, why you opposed to wyches ?, maybe a razorwing so incubi if you want melee you need wyches
   
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The court can be okay. I wouldn't take that AND Incubi though.

Reavers are good, cluster caltrops are probably only okay if you're playing people who still play foot armies, otherwise wouldn't take them. Take Shadowfield + Agonizer on the Archon, PGL depending on who he is with.
Never take PGL on Sybarites, most people wouldn't even take Sybarites at all. If you don't want Wyches, Blaster spam it is. Buy probably 5 Venoms and 1 Raider (3 Venom Troops, 2 Trueborn). 2 Troops in Raider, 1 for Court.
You'll need roughly 15 more warriors. Buy 2 Ravagers and a Razorwing Jetfighter. The Voidraven isn't really worth it for a variety of reasons.

Mandrakes are awful. Scourges are fine, and they fit the Kabal army better than Reavers. I'd pick 2x5 of them up with 2 Dark Lances on each squad (no other upgrades) and sell the Reavers.
The Reavers are an okay choice though, so you'd be alright adding 6 more with 2 Heat Lances here too, but Scourges probably fit the army a little better.

Lastly, Wracks are fine units, but most people only use them because they can be fielded cheap as 3, and make good objective sitters. They're not really great past that, but they can be okay too.
They're pretty expensive $ wise to use though.

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Thanks for the tips I posted an updated list that I'll edit as need be.

currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
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That's much better. I would still split Scourges down to 2x5 and take the 2 special weapons on each squad, Reavers are okay as 9, but if you take extra weapons on the Scourges, 6 is okay. Either way for Reavers I'd probably just take all Heat Lances (though 6th is supposed to change melta so I suppose maybe blasters will be better soon).

I know it's tempting to take the special missiles on the Razorwing, but that makes an AV 10 model just way too many points. The standard monoscythe missiles are really effective at absolutely destroying any infantry squad(s) out there. I'd just try those first.

Kabalites still as 10 is not good because you only have two troop squads in that list anyways. Take the 5 separate here to at LEAST make 4 troops. I wouldn't want a DE list at 2k with really less than 5 troops to be honest. I'd probably even consider dropping the Reavers all together to get more troops. T3 models won't last forever in paper airplanes.
   
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Posted a small update.

currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
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california

I just wanted some advice on a 6th edition version for this list. I updated to exclude Reavers since I don't see any reason now since they don't move faster than Scourges and I added a Razorwing.
Also debating between Razorwing and Voidraven, same points but better guns and armor but lose missles. dunno.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/18 05:08:30


currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
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If you are taking the court with the Archon, you need to take one of each member of the court. You cannot pick and chose (see page 84 under the Court's 'Composition'). Really not worth it, as half of them are great, but most of them suck and aren't worth the points (make great conversions, though!).

Why the hate for the Wyches? I'm running them as 5 with haywire grenades and shardnet/impaler with haem in raider as a tank hunter and tarpit unit.

Razorwing as it will be better in general I think against the armies you'll be facing, DL to hit IG tanks and other tanks, and sheer weight of fire with the missiles against Necrons, IG or SM should take them out. The Ravagers will provide much needed anti-tank.

You also only seem to have 1 troops choice, which is not legal: you'll need 2 at least).

Consider an Incubi court with your archon as it'll make it great in combat. If you do, though, give him PGL to help the Incubi.

Scourges are great, I tend to deep strike them to finish that last hull point off a tank.

EDIT: just realised you are doing 2000 points, thought it was 1000 for some reason! With that in mind, needs more Ravager! At least 2 at this level, more if you are running double FoC. Take more Blasterborn as well, as you need the anti tank or, if you'd rather, take reavers with blasters and scourges. Take many troops, at least 3. How would you want to run your troops if you are so dead set against Wyhes?

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I got 5 squads of Kabalite Warriors all in Raiders. I'd rather use a Razorwing and Ravager than 2 Ravagers as I've been told to not have too little Kabalite Warriors and Trueborn in Raiders as I originally had. And that's point heavy. Plus there are loads of blasters riding in those raiders of Kabalite Trueborn.
As for the Incubi, I have been considering that. Also have been considering adding some wyches to add some cc to support the Archon.

currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
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Are you not running 2000 points? Surly you can spare the points for more Razorwings and Ravagers? I don't think I can stress how great they both are at this point level, even if you run loads of Kabalites with blasters and whatever.
   
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I got 5 raiders. If I drop 5 of those then I'd put in the ravagers. I just don't see putting everything I have in 2 hp venoms when I have 3 hp raiders with dark lances. The poisen weapons don't do much to marines and tanks. Yes I like the ravager/razorwing but I'd rather no lose all my troops transports in 2 shots. And atleast the raiders can fight back against tanks.
10-11 dark lances and 17 blasters is better than 7-9 darklances and 17 blasters. Unless I missed something where the ravager can shoot different targets when the first shot blows up a tank.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/20 06:35:50


currently run
my eldar at 2000 pts
chaos space marine at 3000+ pts
working on dark eldar aiming for 2k
Had a 1k Tau and a 2k Ork and 3k BA. 
   
 
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