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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/10 23:45:40
Subject: Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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I apologize if any of the following seems far fetched, I don't actually play the tabletop game, just paint the models. Through I'm thinking about maybe starting in the future after I finish school,so I wanted to post this question to see what you actual players think. Alright, lets give this a go.
* Lets say there is a Chaos Lord (An eccentric personality, able to gain favor with all four of the gods), who recruits from the most three famous of the Chaos Undivided legions (Black Legion, Word Bearers, Iron Warriors). He allows them to keep their original paint scheme as a symbol of
respect, the only thing they are required to do remove their legion iconography (such as the black legion eye). This warband does not use troops such as Bezerkers, Noise Marines, or Plauge Marines due to the allegiance with all four gods. Is three legions working under one Lord plausible?
* The Chaos Lord was a high ranking Terminator Sergeant who turned away from the Astral Claws early in the Badab War before their eventual defeat and evolution into the Red Corsairs. He did not follow Lufgt Huron into the Maelstrom, but found his way into the eastern fringes of space
where he stumbled upon a derelict space hulk. Allowing Dark Mechanicus adepts to repair it, it became his flagship. What happened after is not exactly known, but he was able to recruit a small cabal of marines from the three legions to follow his cause, looking for a leader who would
offer them many a chance at battle and pious dedication to the dark gods. With the tenacity and manpower of the Black Legion, combined with the unholy dedication and fervor that comes with the Word Bearers, and the stone cold will and weapon mastery that comes with the Iron
Warriors, the warband is not to be trifled with. (Does this backstory seem solid?)
* The Warband is very liberal in it's membership regulations, common humans are allowed induction- leading to a large bulk of force that consists of cultists, renegades, and traitor guardsmen alike. Although their worship is not as fervent as say the marines, Enforcers and disgraced
commissars keep the men in check, while being around Word Bearer marines tends to drill religious dogma into many of their heads. (Is their a proper way to represent such a combined force on the tabletop?)
* A few of its members are in possession of Mark II and Mark III suits of power armor- along with the old pattern bolter of the Great Crusade. Whether they are the same marines who fought during the Horus Heresy or just very lucky to obtain such a relic is unknown. It is rumored for the
Chaos Lord's closest man to have killed a Grey Knight in combat and now dons his Aegis Armor as a defiled trophy, along with the supreme protection it brings. (Possible?)
* Mutation among the warband is uncommon. While many of its members do have the typical Chaos adornments (Spikes and Horns), most of the time spent in realspace prevents odder attachments. Fallen loyalists and some who possess rare suits of armor prefer not to spike up,
preferring to keep the paint of their original legion (say Iron Warriors with a MK.III suit) to scare loyalists back into the opening days of the Horus Heresy. Recently fallen loyalists who have suits of MK.7 armor will usually leave their imperial adornments on, however they will spatter them in
blood, mocking what they once fought for. (Reason for this is I'm not a very good sculptor, and rather not prefer to chop up bits and pieces of marine, does it seem okay?)
* Warband is entirely based upon one craft, shared by the marines and common humans alike. They will recruit from the edges of Imperial space, and make raids on barely inhabited and Xeno worlds. They will sometimes enter the warp to escape attacks, but mostly stay in the
material world. (Make any sense?)
* Known to have many types of vehicles including rhino's, dreadnoughts, hellbrutes, decimators, predators, land raiders, and a whole host of daemon engines. (Seems alright, not sure what would make this unfluffy)
Alright guys, give me some feedback, and tell me what you think of this as a possible warband to play on the tabletop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 01:10:28
Subject: Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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hmm, the majority of this sounds feasible, however I'm not so sure that the Chaos Legionares would remove their iconography from their armor, I believe the majority take great pride in knowing and showing where they came from.
I dont know if this is the case, but in some fluff (Depends on the author, original Legionares generally disdain their more "newly" fallen brothers, its possible the marines following him however are not first gen CSM either, so its reconcilable. However for actual Chaos legionares to follow a formerly loyalist renegade into battle and obey (fear, and thus respect) his orders, he'd have to be a hell of a warrior, charismatic, and generally "successful" in combat.
If i recall the spikes on their armor are actually pleasing to the dark gods if i am not mistaken, so any hardcore CSM would likely have them.
Mutation being uncommon works fine
Space Hulk works great, as does the cultist focus, if you have a lot of dark mechanicum fluff, you may wish to translate that onto table top via oblits or something.
Chaos Termie Lords I believe would be plenty of a match for a Grey Knight, however i do not believe the psychic wards would work for him, it'd just be a hell of a trophy. (I'd throw some patches on it to show battle damage or something)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 03:29:50
Subject: Re:Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Everything in there sounds pretty good actually...if a Chaos Marine were really dissatisfied with his original band I don't think he would have a problem rubbing off his iconography, especially if his new chaos lord were really strong most chaos chapters have kind of an ork mentality I think in that might makes right
the only thing I sort of had a problem with were "chaos commissars" ..although there's nothing really saying there CAN"T be commissars who fall to chaos it might be a bit fluffier to remodel them and use them as overseers with whips and cattleprods and such
and I like the idea of a chaos marine donning the grey knight armour as a trophy...repainted in a more chaosy fashion!
well that's my two cents
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 03:32:31
Subject: Re:Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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RogueMage wrote:Everything in there sounds pretty good actually...if a Chaos Marine were really dissatisfied with his original band I don't think he would have a problem rubbing off his iconography, especially if his new chaos lord were really strong most chaos chapters have kind of an ork mentality I think in that might makes right
the only thing I sort of had a problem with were "chaos commissars" ..although there's nothing really saying there CAN"T be commissars who fall to chaos it might be a bit fluffier to remodel them and use them as overseers with whips and cattleprods and such
and I like the idea of a chaos marine donning the grey knight armour as a trophy...repainted in a more chaosy fashion!
well that's my two cents
The cultist champion with shotty and ccw was an ex commissar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 03:33:38
Subject: Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Sounds cool man. And if you like it go for it. The GK thing is pretty cool. Thanks for posting your ideas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 05:00:45
Subject: Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Recruiting from the Black Legion may be a bit of a stretch as Abaddon likely wouldn't take kindly to someone stealing his dudes. You could likely make it that part of the warband is loosely affiliated with the Black Legion but likes to operate independently when Black Crusades are not going down.
As for comissars, you may want to try something a bit more unique, as they are an imperial stalwart. Maybe revolutionary demagogues trained by the Word Bearers to give the mortal troops cohesion and a sense of pride?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 06:35:00
Subject: Re:Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Slaanesh Havoc with Blastmaster
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The cultist champion with shotty and ccw was an ex commissar
I thought he looked kind of commissarish....I still stick with my guns however, a chaos overseer would still be "fluffier"
..and I have to figure my way around the quote button
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 21:40:11
Subject: Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Fresh-Faced New User
Connecticut
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Thanks for the responses guys. Im happy that my proposed
ideas aren't as crazy as I might have expected. That being said, I have one more question....if one was to theoretically have an
army combining Chaos Space Marines and regular mortals
(Traitor guard, cultists, renegades), what would be the legal
tabletop way of going about with this plan?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 22:21:18
Subject: Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Yeah, you can ally Imperial Guard with Chaos, then take some cultists in your actual Chaos Marines army when the new codex comes out with full rules for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/13 01:14:37
Subject: Re:Does this seem like a plausible idea for my Chaos Space Marine army?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Battle Brother Lucifer wrote: RogueMage wrote:Everything in there sounds pretty good actually...if a Chaos Marine were really dissatisfied with his original band I don't think he would have a problem rubbing off his iconography, especially if his new chaos lord were really strong most chaos chapters have kind of an ork mentality I think in that might makes right
the only thing I sort of had a problem with were "chaos commissars" ..although there's nothing really saying there CAN"T be commissars who fall to chaos it might be a bit fluffier to remodel them and use them as overseers with whips and cattleprods and such
and I like the idea of a chaos marine donning the grey knight armour as a trophy...repainted in a more chaosy fashion!
well that's my two cents
The cultist champion with shotty and ccw was an ex commissar
or more likely, he was some guy who killed a commissar and took his coat
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