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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:14:24
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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Just thought id share
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/10/02 20:16:04
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 22:44:25
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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It looks pretty good, but my only recommendation is the tone down the over reliance on drybrushing. It works great on fur and high texture things like that, but on smooth surfaces like power armor it just makes it look chalky. However, it is still a great effort, keep it up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 08:19:07
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote:It looks pretty good, but my only recommendation is the tone down the over reliance on drybrushing. It works great on fur and high texture things like that, but on smooth surfaces like power armor it just makes it look chalky. However, it is still a great effort, keep it up!
ermm...i think you have possibly missed the effect i was trying to produce with the "chalky" dry brushing. Idea was my space wolf was in the middle of a snow storm. It supposed to be as if he has been blasted by snowy winds coming from north west, to south east.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 09:11:47
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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IF this is your second SW and the snowy effect were effectively what your you were looking for it's just great. I do, in fact, wait the ten model to see how this technique may improve. However, just because we're talking about miniatures and unfortunately not neo/ultra-realism, some little "trick" may improve the general result. IE, a little glowing effect on the eye-lenses, some little "power-effect" on the weapons, eventually a different coat of transparent finish (matt/gloss) on the different materials like gems/armor plates/plain metals surfaces, etc before the drybrushed snow effect may improve the model a lot. You'll may say that this will eventually look "forced" but, to my eyes, this will add what that this mini miss. Complexity and sense of materials.
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Every molecule will be useful
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 09:43:43
Subject: Re:Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I like it. I find space wolves intimidating with all the details. Very impressive effort! I find drybrushing useful if you're looking for a slightly damaged look like paint chipping on armour edges. Paired with some minimal scratches painted with a fine detail brush it looks great. As snow I like it, though I would add some specialized snow effect or maybe white pigment?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 12:31:16
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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The Secret Geek wrote: ScootyPuffJunior wrote:It looks pretty good, but my only recommendation is the tone down the over reliance on drybrushing. It works great on fur and high texture things like that, but on smooth surfaces like power armor it just makes it look chalky. However, it is still a great effort, keep it up!
ermm...i think you have possibly missed the effect i was trying to produce with the "chalky" dry brushing. Idea was my space wolf was in the middle of a snow storm. It supposed to be as if he has been blasted by snowy winds coming from north west, to south east.
I "missed" it because you didn't explain it. Still, I'm of the opinion that it looks chalky. If you wanted a snow blown look, matte medium and a light dusting of fake snow (the Woodland Scenics stuff) would look much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/03 13:51:18
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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ScootyPuffJunior wrote: The Secret Geek wrote: ScootyPuffJunior wrote:It looks pretty good, but my only recommendation is the tone down the over reliance on drybrushing. It works great on fur and high texture things like that, but on smooth surfaces like power armor it just makes it look chalky. However, it is still a great effort, keep it up!
ermm...i think you have possibly missed the effect i was trying to produce with the "chalky" dry brushing. Idea was my space wolf was in the middle of a snow storm. It supposed to be as if he has been blasted by snowy winds coming from north west, to south east.
I "missed" it because you didn't explain it. Still, I'm of the opinion that it looks chalky. If you wanted a snow blown look, matte medium and a light dusting of fake snow (the Woodland Scenics stuff) would look much better.
I see your point, but the snow effect you are talking about wont give the effect the guy is stood in the middle of a storm, defiant in the face of the enemy regardless of it. The snow your talking about is what you would see fall on him on a nice December the 25th, not the storm effect i was trying to give. Tone of my first post came across wrong i think. Wasnt meaning to be being a dick. Automatically Appended Next Post: Toban wrote:IF this is your second SW and the snowy effect were effectively what your you were looking for it's just great. I do, in fact, wait the ten model to see how this technique may improve.
However, just because we're talking about miniatures and unfortunately not neo/ultra-realism, some little "trick" may improve the general result.
IE, a little glowing effect on the eye-lenses, some little "power-effect" on the weapons, eventually a different coat of transparent finish (matt/gloss) on the different materials like gems/armor plates/plain metals surfaces, etc before the drybrushed snow effect may improve the model a lot.
You'll may say that this will eventually look "forced" but, to my eyes, this will add what that this mini miss. Complexity and sense of materials.
nice idea, i will apply this to the next model
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 01:10:49
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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Even with dry brushing or over brushing (sometimes people think they are the same but are not) you can get nice results. You gotta go back and hit the highlights still though. I can see what you did there and it is a solid effort. It is hard to pull off since we don't have back grounds following around our minis. I do agree though if he was in a snow storm there should be a little build up on the north west side - not much, but some. Walking, standing, running, the snow will still try to stick to him in spots unless he has deicer on him.
I model and try to paint to be realistic as possible, some like it and others don't. I like yours. Can't wait to see more wolves as I always check out those post over any other fist!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 10:23:14
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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Kal-El wrote:Even with dry brushing or over brushing (sometimes people think they are the same but are not) you can get nice results. You gotta go back and hit the highlights still though. I can see what you did there and it is a solid effort. It is hard to pull off since we don't have back grounds following around our minis. I do agree though if he was in a snow storm there should be a little build up on the north west side - not much, but some. Walking, standing, running, the snow will still try to stick to him in spots unless he has deicer on him.
I model and try to paint to be realistic as possible, some like it and others don't. I like yours. Can't wait to see more wolves as I always check out those post over any other fist!
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Starting another one tonight. That guy took me about 10 hours : lol: so next should be a little faster.
Does seem like a long time i know for one mini, but i just switch off, have a beer, put some music on and chill. Love it. Own little tiny detailed world
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 03:34:55
Subject: Second Space Wolf, Getting Better Now!
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I can drink and paint lol. I just spent about 10 hours on a model myself so no I don't think it's crazy at all!
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