Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey

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**Kroothawk**

Stickmonkey wrote:Argh! I wrote up a nice little bit for you guys on some new design work and due to the wonders of transversing wireless networks the post was lost. So frustrating.

Well I'll leave a teaser here and come back and edit it to fill it in when I get time later. Sorry blokes, I just dont have time to redo it all now...

These are all wip and no release timing is available. Codex SM is not underway, so these may be a splash release or could be a long way off.

New tactical squad. Hvy flamer. Mk 8 style
Edit: there are more mk 8 bits here than before, but there are still "beakies" too. Includes many options not released before in plastic, including a Hvy flamer, a backpack style (read devastator) missile launcher w flakk missile, slings on bolters, power weapon options. Basically think of all the blinged out options you get w a BA, SW, GK box and now apply it to tactical marines. Poses are all standing, but they aren't as static.

New assault squad. New jump packs. New weapon options
Edit: retooling similar to tac squad. The jump packs are all new, but don't get knickers in a twist cause they are the same style as current ones. They just look better cause the seam is not there. New cc options in the sprue include thss and lc. There is a few new options in here I can't reveal.

New librarian mini sprue. Codex options included
Edit: this is where the librarian/chaplain kit I saw a long time ago went. Has a force sword or staff, has combi weapons, has pistols. Two heads. All in mini sprue. It's 2 mini sprues. Only options from current codex not present are jump pack, bike, or TA. No info on where chaplain went.

New Techmarine mini sprue. Conversion Beamer.
Edit: very similar to current tech ax Techmarine. Layered body. Has tech ax, tech sword, plasma pistol, combi weapons, couple variants on servo arms, and conversion Beamer. 2 mini sprues.

Edit: on both these mini sprue characters the heads and weapons are compatible with existing line. But the arms/bodies are unique.

New scout box. New sculpts. Combined boxes. New options.
Edit: includes some new scout only weapons. Heads are less bulky. All codex options present in one box.

New flyer. Interceptor/bomber. Flat but boxy. Storm raven sized. No transport. No hover. Heavy assault cannon and ff missiles. Or bombs and servo drones in gun pods.
Edit: shares wing/engine aesthetics of storm raven, but fuselage is flatter. Wings not as bent. No thrusters in wingtips. Two tail options, one for each build.

New scout transport. Like Tauros (FW ig) but open wagon style. Halo warthog mashed w rhino. Pintle TL HB.
Edit: rumored rule only will allow pintle weapon when unit is embarked. Fast vehicle. 4 buggy style wheels. Rider models/bits compatible with new scout box. Roughly rhino sized. For Baja race fans think armored sandrail.

Cheers. Like I mentioned, these are likely a long way off, and I will fill in more later.

How many Flyers are they going to give the Marines? Seems like overkill.

So far as I know these will be the only new ones, but it's a dual kit. Add it to the storm talon and you have 3. I have it on good authority the storm raven will not become a codex release. And there is an awareness SM lack a transport flyer currently.

**H.B.M.C.**

New Techmarine mini sprue. Conversion Beamer.
Edit: very similar to current tech ax Techmarine. Layered body. Has tech ax, tech sword, plasma pistol, combi weapons, couple variants on servo arms, and conversion Beamer. 2 mini sprues.

All of my money. All of it.

**psychadelicmime**

Mk 8 tac squad?

**pretre**

Apparently Stick isn't phased by the tracker.

**Commander Cain**

Hmm, interesting. Some MK8 stuff would be nice to have.

Sounds like a decent amount of stuff to not be a new codex release, no complaints from me though!

**H.B.M.C.**

Maybe they've learnt that people like different armour makes, so they're putting various things into the sprues so people can make various different combinations (and as Mk.VIII is the hardest to get, some more bitz for that'd be nice).

**Brother SRM**

We got pretty similar rumors on Space Marine armor back with the 5th ed Space Marine codex. I wouldn't be surprised if GW put out a new tac squad kit that was 5 dudes for $33 like they've been doing though. I don't put any credence in Stickmonkey rumors; especially not ones that sound a bit wishlisty like that.

**pretre**

Brother SRM wrote:
I don't put any credence in Stickmonkey rumors; especially not ones that sound a bit wishlisty like that.

Stickmonkey has a pretty good record...

**Alpharius**

psychadelicmime wrote:
Mk 8 tac squad?

That's what jumped out at me too - nice!

**Nevelon**

Any idea on a timeframe for this? I need to start budgeting if even half of this is true...

**Bolognesus**

Dunno, it'd feel strange to update the perfectly fine tac squad instead of making a nice multi-pose plastic veteran kit.
...which incidentally would jive well with the in fluff still rare and mostly available to veterans mkVIII armour, if i recall correctly.

...or perhaps the tacs and vets build from the same box; hey, it's all power armour anyway

**Rayvon**

Nevelon wrote:
Any idea on a timeframe for this? I need to start budgeting if even half of this is true...

these may be a splash release or could be a long way off

Thats all he knows.

**BladeWalker**

If you throw enough stuff, something will stick(monkey)!

**pretre**

BladeWalker wrote:
If you throw enough stuff, something will stick(monkey)!

Again, this is something levelled against Stickmonkey that simply isn't correct. Stickmonkey has a good history for rumors (especially considering how far out he generally posts), unlike some folks who do just throw things at the wall to see what sticks.

**BladeWalker**

My bad. Carry on.

**Insurgency Walker**

New scout transport. Like Tauros (FW ig) but open wagon style. Halo warthog mashed w rhino. Pintle TL HB.
Edit: rumored rule only will allow pintle weapon when unit is embarked. Fast vehicle. 4 buggy style wheels. Rider models/bits compatible with new scout box. Roughly rhino sized. For Baja race fans think armored sandrail.

Buggies! I love buggies!

**Kid_Kyoto**

Good looking scouts?

Plastic tech marine?

Good looking flier?

Jeep?

Is GW trying to break me?

It won't work... it won't work I say... it won't...

**megatrons2nd**

The only problem with Stickmonkey is he can't seem to get a date right. No fault on him do to the time he sees stuff, and the way they shift schedules around. I think he does a great job.

**pretre**

Yeah, agreed, dates are his bane.

**CaptainLoken**

I just want to know if the whole "the Tau are our salvation" fluff rumor is true. I REALLY hope that it is not true, as it would fly in the face of years of existing fluff, not to mention invalidating Black Library novels and such. I can see GW Marketing doing this, however. Pair the worst selling line with the bestselling line, and watch the bucks fly in! Of course, they could make the Tau a better selling line if they would UPDATE their Codex….oops, just reset the timer. Sorry guys.

**pretre**

That rumor was disproven when 6th ed came out. It came from Tasty and it was originally posted as a 'sixth edition makes this happen' rumor.

**Zygrot24**

Hurgh. I want all of those things. I really, really hope tac box stays 10 man though.

Librarian and tech marine mini sprue boxes are 10/10 A+ zomg here's my money now gimme gimme.

**OverwatchCNC**

Mmmmmmmm Heavy Flamer option for Tac Squads. I really may need to restart my Salamanders. I love me some twin linked firestorms of doom.

**Kroothawk**

pretre wrote:
That rumor was disproven when 6th ed came out. It came from Tasty and it was originally posted as a 'sixth edition makes this happen' rumor.

I would call it pending, as it would explain an otherwise silly "SM and Tau are battlebrothers". We will see with the Tau Codex.

**OverwatchCNC**

Kroothawk wrote:
pretre wrote:
That rumor was disproven when 6th ed came out. It came from Tasty and it was originally posted as a 'sixth edition makes this happen' rumor.

I would call it pending, as it would explain an otherwise silly "SM and Tau are battlebrothers". We will see with the Tau Codex.

I seriously doubt the story line will go "Help us Tau-y-wan Kenobi you're our only hope." but rather something along the lines of the Inquisition wanting to get closer to the only Xeno faction that is immune to the Warp to take advantage of them. At least I hope it isn't 40k Tau = Jesus.

**Jaon**

Stickmonkey was so horribly wrong about everything in the IG and GK releases that I hold no credence for his early rumours. Whether its his fault they are inaccurate remains to be seen...

**pretre**

Kroothawk wrote:
pretre wrote:
That rumor was disproven when 6th ed came out. It came from Tasty and it was originally posted as a 'sixth edition makes this happen' rumor.

I would call it pending, as it would explain an otherwise silly "SM and Tau are battlebrothers". We will see with the Tau Codex.

I've listed it as FALSE for now, although I would certainly revisit if a later codex changes things, as there was zero indication in the 6th ed book that this was the new direction.

Jaon wrote:Stickmonkey was so horribly wrong about everything in the IG and GK releases that I hold no credence for his early rumours. Whether its his fault they are inaccurate remains to be seen...

Stickmonkey is running about 60% accurate, which is pretty damn good when you consider how far out he predicts.

**Compel**

The thing is, the way I heard it, the policy was that GW were not going to remake any kits that were available (in plastic??) already, instead they were focussing on adding new units in.

EG, why there's new raptors combo kitted with Warp Talons (a new unit) as opposed to new chaos marine troops.

**OverwatchCNC**

pretre wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
pretre wrote:
That rumor was disproven when 6th ed came out. It came from Tasty and it was originally posted as a 'sixth edition makes this happen' rumor.

I would call it pending, as it would explain an otherwise silly "SM and Tau are battlebrothers". We will see with the Tau Codex.

I've listed it as FALSE for now, although I would certainly revisit if a later codex changes things, as there was zero indication in the 6th ed book that this was the new direction.

Jaon wrote:Stickmonkey was so horribly wrong about everything in the IG and GK releases that I hold no credence for his early rumours. Whether its his fault they are inaccurate remains to be seen...

Stickmonkey is running about 60% accurate, which is pretty damn good when you consider how far out he predicts.

When flinging poo from further away the chances it sticks increases?

Kidding of course I agree his accuracy given the distance in time is pretty impressive.

**Alpharius**

60% accurate is a slight hop way from...50%, and all that implies.

This doesn't sound super-awesome, but I guess it still puts him towards the top of the list?