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Ok so there is a pic in the Dark Angels Dex of the Ravenwing landing on a planet and a lone biker at the front holding his arm out with a raven perched on it with spread wing and i was wondering if anyone has seen a model with a raven like that (beside nijal storm caller and inquisitor coteaz. i know about those)

Check the fantasy range. You might find something like that with the Wood Elves or Empire.


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Ok just did a quick search.

The Empire Archers come with a dead Owl. If thats any use to you

The Giant kit has a Vulture AND what appears to be some form of Raven/Crow. Its sitting on his left shoulder.




Dunno how big it will be compared to a Marine but there it is.

Hi Deathclad,

I have been using the Dark Eldar Razorwing miniatures on my Ravenwing Bikers. You get 4 in a blister, 2 single ravens and 1 pair (as you can see in the pic below). I think they fit the concept perfectly ;-)

 Snrub wrote:
Check the fantasy range. You might find something like that with the Wood Elves or Empire.


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Ok just did a quick search.

The Empire Archers come with a dead Owl. If thats any use to you

The Giant kit has a Vulture AND what appears to be some form of Raven/Crow. Its sitting on his left shoulder.




Dunno how big it will be compared to a Marine but there it is.

Thank you for your imput . thats not what im looking for but i will keep it in mind


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 M4cr0Dutch wrote:
Hi Deathclad,

I have been using the Dark Eldar Razorwing miniatures on my Ravenwing Bikers. You get 4 in a blister, 2 single ravens and 1 pair (as you can see in the pic below). I think they fit the concept perfectly ;-)

Thank you Thats Perfect!!!


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also does anyone have any ideas of how to green stuff it so i looks like its perched on his arm

I actually was going to do exactly the same conversion, I just haven't had a chance yet. My plan was to use the standard biker arm, heat up and close the fist, then attach one of the single ravens. To prepare the raven you would need to fill the hole for the flying base with green stuff and let it cure, then drill into it so you can pin the raven to the closed fist. I'll work on it tonight and over weekend so you can see what it looks like. If it doesn't work you can at least avoid my pratfalls!

What about the raven from Njal Stormcaller?

 Shenloanne wrote:
What about the raven from Njal Stormcaller?

 Deathclad wrote:
...(beside nijal storm caller and inquisitor coteaz. i know about those)

Okay, so I gave the conversion a go over the weekend and it turned out alright. The finished product was a little bit different to how I pictured it in my head, but that's just how conversions go sometimes.

Here are the steps:

1) Fill the hole in the bottom of the raven with green stuff and leave it to cure for 24ish hours.
2) Heat up the standard biker arm (the one that usually holds the handle bars) and close it a bit. There are lots of tutorials on how to heat up stuff, I'll let you pick one. I just dipped it in boiling water for a bit and used some slow, steady, brute strength. Never use a naked flame.
3) Drill a hole down through the wrist of the biker arm. This takes a bit of care, there isn't that much room. This will decide the angle that the raven is sitting at. You may want to do yours differently, so that the raven is actually perched on the hand instead of taking off.
4) Drill a hole in the cured green stuff.
5) Put a tiny ball of green stuff in the wrist hole and pin the raven to the fist. I used a flexible pin (steel wire for the purposes of posing). My pin is long to show the raven in flight leaving the fist, which seemed to suit the pose of the raven miniature better. Obviously, you may want to pin it flush to the fist instead.
6) Pin the standard biker arm to the biker body. I found that, with the addition of the raven, the arm was heavy and hard to fix to the body. Pinning the arm fixed that problem.
7) I glued the head on last, so that I could have it looking at the raven as it takes off. With the flexible pin I will be able to repose the raven slightly.

I hope this has given you some ideas regarding how to go about this conversion. Below are some pics to show some of the steps. I have one more little raven in my stash, which I am planning on having swoop under a landspeeder.

Good luck!!

 M4cr0Dutch wrote:
I actually was going to do exactly the same conversion, I just haven't had a chance yet. My plan was to use the standard biker arm, heat up and close the fist, then attach one of the single ravens. To prepare the raven you would need to fill the hole for the flying base with green stuff and let it cure, then drill into it so you can pin the raven to the closed fist. I'll work on it tonight and over weekend so you can see what it looks like. If it doesn't work you can at least avoid my pratfalls!

Actually don't drill into it Green stuff some small legs around wire that you place inside and drill into the bikers arm so the wire can connect to the plastic.


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 M4cr0Dutch wrote:
Okay, so I gave the conversion a go over the weekend and it turned out alright. The finished product was a little bit different to how I pictured it in my head, but that's just how conversions go sometimes.

Here are the steps:

1) Fill the hole in the bottom of the raven with green stuff and leave it to cure for 24ish hours.
2) Heat up the standard biker arm (the one that usually holds the handle bars) and close it a bit. There are lots of tutorials on how to heat up stuff, I'll let you pick one. I just dipped it in boiling water for a bit and used some slow, steady, brute strength. Never use a naked flame.
3) Drill a hole down through the wrist of the biker arm. This takes a bit of care, there isn't that much room. This will decide the angle that the raven is sitting at. You may want to do yours differently, so that the raven is actually perched on the hand instead of taking off.
4) Drill a hole in the cured green stuff.
5) Put a tiny ball of green stuff in the wrist hole and pin the raven to the fist. I used a flexible pin (steel wire for the purposes of posing). My pin is long to show the raven in flight leaving the fist, which seemed to suit the pose of the raven miniature better. Obviously, you may want to pin it flush to the fist instead.
6) Pin the standard biker arm to the biker body. I found that, with the addition of the raven, the arm was heavy and hard to fix to the body. Pinning the arm fixed that problem.
7) I glued the head on last, so that I could have it looking at the raven as it takes off. With the flexible pin I will be able to repose the raven slightly.

I hope this has given you some ideas regarding how to go about this conversion. Below are some pics to show some of the steps. I have one more little raven in my stash, which I am planning on having swoop under a landspeeder.

Good luck!!

I hade a Slightly Different idea on what i wanted to do and when i do finish the conversion i will send you some pics (That wont be for a while im still painting the DV models)

If you didn't want to use the standard biker arm you could use the pointing arm from the command squad box. Anyway awesome idea, going to have to use this with my RW command squad to give it some more life.

 Deathclad wrote:

Actually don't drill into it Green stuff some small legs around wire that you place inside and drill into the bikers arm so the wire can connect to the plastic.

That would definitely work, you just need to make sure that the legs are in proportion with the rest of the raven, i.e. very small. That would give you the raven perched on the arm that you can see in the Codex pic. I look forward to seeing the conversion when you get around to it. I know the feeling, so much painting and so little time

 M4cr0Dutch wrote:

 Deathclad wrote:

Actually don't drill into it Green stuff some small legs around wire that you place inside and drill into the bikers arm so the wire can connect to the plastic.

That would definitely work, you just need to make sure that the legs are in proportion with the rest of the raven, i.e. very small. That would give you the raven perched on the arm that you can see in the Codex pic. I look forward to seeing the conversion when you get around to it. I know the feeling, so much painting and so little time

Yup. Im painting them in rank and i got the limited so i had the Chaplin and since i like chaplains i painted him first, then the Librarian, and then the Company Master, and i Just finished the DeathWing Sergeant last night. I love how they look but the Detail im putting in slows down the Proses so much