Cyporiean wrote:
I'm amazed that I agree with Kroot on something...

Things i totally would have bought from the Hobbit game that aren't being made:
- The Pale Orc
- Wood Elf King on Elk
- The Fellowship of the Key (Outside of the starter set)
- Radagast on Bunny Sled
- 'Mail Goblin'

Also would totally get Bilbo's Trolls if the models weren't so ugly.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Sylvester McCoy

An O Man

Dr Who

Radagast the Brown

what a hero, what a career

 Kroothawk wrote:
Have seen the movie now. Really nice, same quality as the LOTR movies IMHO.

Now I wonder why one of the main Ork characters doesn't get a model in first or second wave, but others that are at best seen a few blinks and not even called by name in the movie get extra models in first and second wave.

Spoiler:

I am mainly talking about Azog. No model in sight. Is he even mentioned in the rulebook? Or Thorin's farther and Grandfather?

 TBD wrote:

Spoiler:

It looks like they simply turned Azog (the father, originally killed in the battle with the Dwarves by Thorin's father) & Bolg (his son who should be the main Orc character in the movies) into one character to be featured in the movies.

The Bolg miniature made by GW, and also action figures made by others etc, could be what he was intented to look like in the movies before they had a change of mind that came too late for all the merchandise makers. That exact image is even featured on movie posters that I've seen on the internet. Otherwise I can't explain why a character that doesn't even appear in the movie would have his face all over the place. And did Azog/Bolg ride the albino Warg in the book? Can't remember that to be honest. It's still all a bit strange, even though the look they went with is better than the bearded Orc, Imo.

I've also seen movie posters for "An unexpected journey" featuring Gandalf & Beorn (who isn't in the first movie), and the Dwarves going down the river in the barrels (which isn't in the movie either). All of this most likely the result of making it three instead of two movies.

 TBD wrote:

Spoiler:

Yes I have seen the movie, and I don't remember seeing Bolg anywhere.

Of course I could have missed him if he was only very shortly in one of the battle scenes at the start, but in that case he really didn't play any role of importance at all, so to have him on a movie poster and make him action figures etc instead of Azog who actually is the one featured thoroughly makes no sense. That is why I think Peter Jackson simply did a big switcheroo.

I just found this, which seems to confirm what I'm suspecting:

(movie spoilers warning)

http://thorinoakenshield.net/2012/08/20/will-azog-the-orc-be-in-the-hobbit-movies/

Tezerel wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
I'm amazed that I agree with Kroot on something...

Things i totally would have bought from the Hobbit game that aren't being made:
- The Pale Orc
- Wood Elf King on Elk
- The Fellowship of the Key (Outside of the starter set)
- Radagast on Bunny Sled
- 'Mail Goblin'

Also would totally get Bilbo's Trolls if the models weren't so ugly.

The "Mail Goblin" is the Goblin scribe unless I'm confused. Azog the Pale Orc has a profile so he will get a model in time, Radagast has options for a chariot so he will get it in time, the Dwarves are coming out in finecast outside of the starter box, and Thranduil will get a model when he captures the dwarves in the second movie without a doubt. One thing that differentiates Lotr from the warhammer books is that there has never been a profile without a model being released within a couple years or so (barring horseback versions). So expect all of the major things to come out as well as the stuff in the book already.

So just hold on a bit

 stubacca wrote:
That's the post I read, right at the bottom it says

Spoiler:

The biggest surprise is that Bolg (played by Conan Stevens) was not in this film, except for what I and several others think was a split second shot during this same battle sequence. You will have be watching very close to see it.

I saw Ian McKellen on a BBC show this morning and he didn't know it was a three part film until late on into filming, so as you thought Bolg was in it until the last minute?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20746645

 spaceelf wrote:

There were lots of profiles in LOTR that never had models. These included the blight hearted tree, beorings, elven catapult, etc. It looks like half a decade later we will get beorings, but the other stuff I do not know.

 paulson games wrote:
After seeing the movie I think the sculpts for the troll miniatures are a pretty bad miss. The sculpts are much too upright and their facial details are horrid. I thought the trolls in the film looked fairly good, based on seeing the minis before hand I was expecting much worse.

 TBD wrote:

Spoiler:

It looks like they simply turned Azog (the father, originally killed in the battle with the Dwarves by Thorin's father) & Bolg (his son who should be the main Orc character in the movies) into one character to be featured in the movies.

The Bolg miniature made by GW, and also action figures made by others etc, could be what he was intented to look like in the movies before they had a change of mind that came too late for all the merchandise makers. That exact image is even featured on movie posters that I've seen on the internet. Otherwise I can't explain why a character that doesn't even appear in the movie would have his face all over the place. And did Azog/Bolg ride the albino Warg in the book? Can't remember that to be honest. It's still all a bit strange, even though the look they went with is better than the bearded Orc, Imo.

I've also seen movie posters for "An unexpected journey" featuring Gandalf & Beorn (who isn't in the first movie), and the Dwarves going down the river in the barrels (which isn't in the movie either). All of this most likely the result of making it three instead of two movies.

Eiríkr wrote:I have a lingering feeling that P.J was rushed too heavily for this first film. There's a lot of cutting that doesn't make sense to me.

Eiríkr wrote:There's a lot of cutting that doesn't make sense to me.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:I have a lingering feeling that P.J was rushed too heavily for this first film. There's a lot of cutting that doesn't make sense to me.

Well, your lingering feeling sounds correct. PJ said that he hoped to finish the movie two days before the premiere. The movie blog confirmed tight time restraints. BTW is the real life shooting for all three parts arleady done? IMDB already lists them in the post-production phase.

 Marrak wrote:

 TBD wrote:

Spoiler:

It looks like they simply turned Azog (the father, originally killed in the battle with the Dwarves by Thorin's father) & Bolg (his son who should be the main Orc character in the movies) into one character to be featured in the movies.

The Bolg miniature made by GW, and also action figures made by others etc, could be what he was intented to look like in the movies before they had a change of mind that came too late for all the merchandise makers. That exact image is even featured on movie posters that I've seen on the internet. Otherwise I can't explain why a character that doesn't even appear in the movie would have his face all over the place. And did Azog/Bolg ride the albino Warg in the book? Can't remember that to be honest. It's still all a bit strange, even though the look they went with is better than the bearded Orc, Imo.

I've also seen movie posters for "An unexpected journey" featuring Gandalf & Beorn (who isn't in the first movie), and the Dwarves going down the river in the barrels (which isn't in the movie either). All of this most likely the result of making it three instead of two movies.

Spoiler:

Saw the movie and saw Bolg... it's been a while since I read the hobbit, but it looks like they may have just switched the character names. Not sure why, since they usually try to keep that pretty consistent... but yea, he's there long enough to get killed by Thorin's dad or grandad.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Eiríkr wrote:I have a lingering feeling that P.J was rushed too heavily for this first film. There's a lot of cutting that doesn't make sense to me.

Well, your lingering feeling sounds correct. PJ said that he hoped to finish the movie two days before the premiere. The movie blog confirmed tight time restraints. BTW is the real life shooting for all three parts arleady done? IMDB already lists them in the post-production phase.