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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 16:50:36
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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@Baiyuan - Germany-Schmermany, some of the WORLD's finest is more accurate imho... love me some MV.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 16:53:24
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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HF - Dude that is sweet. The pose looks cool, he looks like he is moving really quickly.
I would suggest not having the waves on the base, except round the floating detritus. At the moment he looks to be jumping/flying from debris to debris.
Really looking forward to seeing some paint, what colours are you going for?
Peter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 17:07:23
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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PDH wrote:HF - Dude that is sweet. The pose looks cool, he looks like he is moving really quickly.
I would suggest not having the waves on the base, except round the floating detritus. At the moment he looks to be jumping/flying from debris to debris.
Really looking forward to seeing some paint, what colours are you going for?
Peter
Thanks, Peter! The concept totally changed from the majestic Batman pose on ruin to insane ninja-jumping, but I'm very pleased with the semi-final product. (needs wings)
As for colors... I want to try a limited palette, but I'm unsure as to what colors to consider. Some off the top of my head
-previously mentioned green-grey (old skool GW Rotten Flesh mix-type), with a similar green-aqua armor
-like a tyranid- orange/red plates with cream-bone body
-some sort of brown palette, possibly dark greyish armor
-purple and hues thereof, some sort of "night" scene, completing the ninja-samurai theme
Nothing really strikes me, though, at the moment. I'll run more schemes by as the day goes on... need something before I start painting tomorrow. Any suggestions?
-Remi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 19:16:18
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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With the Inquisitor, Lord Alben Silas, I had a good paint session again today. Only the cape and metal trickery left to finish. The pattern is there, Now I want to make it look like it's fading as planned. (after bloody long time getting it sharp and smooth first : lol: ) I've also decided I will do a new style and shade on bases for these guys. They are not part of the Legion Rhisienne narrative.
Guys, you're gone be in a hurry soon! Some on the list haven't even started yet
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 20:01:50
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Infiltrating Naga
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@Remi: Evergreen plastics sells clear styrene sheet, I've bought some in a model shop in China last year, but you can use the plastic from any kind of packaging, go buy some donuts or something. Using clear plastic sheet was one of my approaches. Melting the edges with some incense so it becomes thicker and irregular and scratching fine lines into the surface for that insect wing pattern.
My other idea is building a frame with very fine wire and then filling the room in between with Microscale Kristal Klear or Revell Contacta Clear. That would make for a more organic, slightly slimy look and avoid flat plastic-sheet-like surfaces.
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Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 21:15:56
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Using Inks and Washes
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Hey again everyone! Mini update today - slowly working on bulking out her remaining arm:

I was actually hoping someone might be able to give me a little advice on painting though, as I've been hunting around for this and I've drawn a blank. When it comes to painting her up, I want the lower layer to be a patterned dress, but very faded and aged. I think the patterning should give me a good chance to work on my freehand (which I'm pretty new to!), but does anyone happen to have any advice on a 'faded colour' effect to the cloth? I want it to look like it's been worn for a really long time. I'd really appreciate any tips at all that anyone might have time to give
It's not often there's a collection of so many amazing painters to leech off *cough* sorry, learn from in one place!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oooh, and speaking of uses for excess green stuff - has anyone used instant mould before? Amazing stuff!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 21:30:22
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Baiyuan wrote:@Remi: Evergreen plastics sells clear styrene sheet, I've bought some in a model shop in China last year, but you can use the plastic from any kind of packaging, go buy some donuts or something. Using clear plastic sheet was one of my approaches. Melting the edges with some incense so it becomes thicker and irregular and scratching fine lines into the surface for that insect wing pattern.
My other idea is building a frame with very fine wire and then filling the room in between with Microscale Kristal Klear or Revell Contacta Clear. That would make for a more organic, slightly slimy look and avoid flat plastic-sheet-like surfaces.
Hmm... I might have to check that out. LOL, I hate donuts, man. Or sweets of any kind for that matter.  However, my office mates just brought cupcakes in the clear plastic shell containers for someone's bday... might have to go dumpster diving and take one home... or just buy some sweets for the wife on the premise that I really want to give her some stuff... and not just because I need the casing.
@ Scarper- great update, man! I like the ripped GS look on the shoulders. That skinny arm (lacking musculature, but not uncommon for females), almost looks "natural"- like one of those old victorian age/ wild American west-type ladies dresses, except the shoulder poofy is shot to  , in a very 40K grungy hive dump way. How'd you do those? I could take a lesson.
As to your free-hand dilemma, I've had limited experience, but nothing worthwhile like building up the colors (whatever that means), but I'm also very interested to hear the answer to this. But I suspect you're going to need fade, as well as faded stains and dirt.
So yes, super...er, more accomplished painters, any ideas for faded colors and really "worn" looking clothing?
-Remi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/15 23:04:27
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Infiltrating Naga
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I would paint it as usual and when you're done with the pattern and all I would use a color at 80% of the maximum brightness, dilute it at least 1:20 and start applying very thin layers without excess paint over the pattern, thus creating a fine filter that should make it look like the pattern faded and the base cloth is shining through.
Just my approach of courses...
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Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 06:22:11
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Scarper - Looking good. I wouldn't bother bulking her arm out. It looks right in the photo.
As for painting a faded dress pattern I'm not sure. Oh a gut feeling I would probably use a paint almost the colour of the base coat, where I'd want the pattern faded. I'd also use a mig pigments and dust over the pattern.
migsula - Guys, you're gone be in a hurry soon! Some on the list haven't even started yet
Indeed it looks like it will be quite a rush for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 16:28:36
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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@Scarper: Great progress!
@Remi: Looks great, i agree that i believe its your best work to date, you've really improved with gs on this mini. Insect wings would be sweet.
@Baiyuan: Great, love the rifle barrel, and the armouur/clothing, but the stock does look a tad plain...
I've finally started, the feet are in progress, and the base is almost built, but i cant find the camera lead so ill have to wait till tomorrow to upload the pics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 16:35:04
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Baiyuan that has got to be among the finest conversions i have ever seen. Sublime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 17:07:45
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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@ Baiyuan- I've got a method I'm going to try out tonight.
No cupcake/donuts as planned, but I've got soft plastic folder-sleeves from my school supplies (might have a slightly stiffer version somewhere in the house, not sure).
1) cut the shape out
2) use very VERY thin strips of GS to simulate the veins
3) then fill the small spaces in between the GS with shallow pools of Water Effects for sheen and a "stiffening" effect to the flimsy plastic without making it too think and heavy. Let it dry, flip, and repeat until I finish.
4) Add to model and pray for success.
Let's see how this works out.
@ Vit- Thanks, brother. It's got me teetering on the point of having fun and mental breakdown over here. Pushing the bar though, for which I think I'll need a small break from after this contest and let me recharge my creative batteries.
I'm looking forward to the progress on your end- bases, in particular, intrigue me, especially since most modellers here spend just as much time on it as the models themselves. Example- Peter's cobblestone steampunk base for his... Peter, were those cobblestones all single pieces painstakingly arranged on that base? You sick bastard.
-Remi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 18:01:30
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/08/16 18:03:24
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Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 18:04:54
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Impressive.
The mask completes the miniature for me- and the 2nd pic I think is what we were all missing. From that angle, it fits much more nicely, and the other pics seem to fall into line.
Excellent work. Let the painting begin!! (I think?  )
-Remi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 18:10:30
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Baiyuan - That is a very nicely detailed model
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 18:34:00
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Baiyuan - Very nice. Her hair line looks much better now. the beads rather than piping looks right. The detail on the gun stock really adds to it. I know she is going onto a round base, but the square looks really odd at the moment. The lock and the purity seal on the chastity belt bring the whole area together. What I didn't notice from the first lot of pics was the detail down the front of her stockings, very nice.
Vitruvian XVII - Looking forward to seeing some WIPage
HF Izanagi
I'm looking forward to the progress on your end- bases, in particular, intrigue me, especially since most modellers here spend just as much time on it as the models themselves. Example- Peter's cobblestone steampunk base for his... Peter, were those cobblestones all single pieces painstakingly arranged on that base? You sick bastard.
I'm afraid the cobbles are not single pieces. They are Wills Finecast plasticard sheet...But I am sick enough to cut the sheet up into! Ok I think I'm happy with the base now. Time to get the Necron Abyss out and start painting the navigator.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 19:00:14
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Brilliant Baiyuan - the small changes do make all the difference. The evolution from the original model is fantastic. Will be great to see her painted.
What's the plan for "revealing" the models? I suppose we'd wait until the deadline? (maybe at this stage the DL date could be in the title of the blog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 19:25:17
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Infiltrating Naga
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Allright I just ruined the whole mini with the basecoat. Could have used the good old Rough Coat instead of my Vallejo primer, the whole surface is like sandpaper.  I had a bad basecoat every now and then, but this is ridiculous. feth! I think I'm going postal. Can anyone recommend a half decent recovery technique?
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Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 19:36:15
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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FEEEEEEEETH... dude, that sucks. Hard.
I can't recommend US Pinesol (anyone have a comparison between that and Dettol?) Tried it on my busted 1K sons in resin, so it's a bit more stable, but it totally WRECKS greenstuff work, not sure about your grey-stuff nor its effect on plastic. No idea how it works on plastic- Anyone have a plastic figure to sacrifice to the Dettol gods to see if itmelts? Preferably painted crappily from a few years ago?
I had a flesh-change on my 1K sons, using a faulty bottle of colored primer, sanding didn't work...
Small trips into a pinesol/dettol bath of one to two hours and several scrubs with a soft-bristle toothbrush? It'll take a few rounds, but you might be able to minimize damage to the glue and putty that way...?
I hope you sort it out. Go to your cabinet and pull out a bottle of something hard to drink. Check back here in a few hours. I'm sure the others will have some other suggestions...
-Remi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 20:03:04
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Ohohhhooo this i wanna see!
All look great so far
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 20:17:05
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - with added drama
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Post a photo of the damage.
I once stripped a femme militia model with break fluid and it didn't touch the GS. I took the model out regularly because I didn't want it to melt the resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 20:26:03
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Infiltrating Naga
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I applied a chaos black basecoat first, which was fine. And then applied a zenithal coat of Vallejo grey primer, which turned all grainy. So grainy you can feel it with your fingers and it sucks in any other paint.
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Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 20:49:29
Subject: Re:Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - with added drama
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Fingers and toes crossed you can rescue her.
Peter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 22:31:33
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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Welli know if you Use mean green and leave it set in it for more than three weeks it will eventually eat the plastic not sure about the grey stuff though. hope this helps some good luck any way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 06:46:23
Subject: Pimp my wizard 40K! - A friendly, invitational P&M contest - 28 days later... Err... left
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My experiences with Simple Green over a day or 5 work well with ridding plastic of paint with no damage to the plastic (beat a 'so thick you can't see any details' model, even), though I wouldn't say I yet have any experience regarding green stuff and simple green.
No, I'm not part of this contest, now have I started on any of the stuff in the other one anyway, but good luck all. Kaesar II
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 07:33:40
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Baiyuan: Horribly. So sorry to hear. The latest pics looked really promising.
I primed a GD entry with sandpaper texture a few years back - a Teclis model sculpted almost from scratch.
I managed to remove a lot of the rough paint with dish soap and a brush (or old toothbrush, cannot remember)...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 08:36:19
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Damn. I hope you manage to find a way to clean the grey off her without any damage as the sculpting is looking great
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 13:45:27
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Infiltrating Naga
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She's not saved yet, but cheap plastic cleaner from the drugstore and an ultrasonic cleaner seem to do the job. Keep your fingers crossed!
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Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 14:10:10
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Glad to hear it. I'm wondering if I should get an ultrasonic cleaner for the future, when my 1K Sons will inevitably face the Flesh Change (aka dust/sandpaper primer jobs)...
Here's hoping you get her back safely as well!
-Remi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 14:36:46
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OH feth!
There should be some form of insurance for that. My =I= got a tiny dose of the bad primer effect but only from back left of the model. I think due to too hot weather rather than bad primer. It absolutely sucks when that happens. And you effort has been herculean. Fingers crossed you will be able to save most of the damage at least!!!
I still remember Jakob's nightmare. Bloody primer!!!
Only thing worse is bad varnish that wrecks everything when you are completely finished...
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