Novice painter 500 points daemon army

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**Evariuda**

Hello everybody,

I recently joined dakka and started painting 500 points daemon army for 40k. This is one of my first paintjobs and wanted to share it with you guys. I still have to figure out what to do about the bases but they are tabletop ready to go i suppose

Comments and tips are appreciated ^^

PS: i got a bit sidetracked and bought a warriors of chaos box (because they are awesome). wish to show you guys the first model i painted of that aswel

**Ifurita**

Overall nice job. I can see the details, everything is done between the lines. They seem a little glossy, but that might just be the byproduct of the wash. Nothing a matte sealer won't fix. I think you could have done the cloak on the warrior in a lighter color, to differentiate it more from the armor, but that is a preferrence. Technically, the paint job looks fine.

**Quarterdime**

#1: Too glossy

#2: Unfinished

#3: You need to fill the gaps on the heads of the bloodletters and along the bodies of the plaguebearers

#4: That Bloodcrusher Herald looks too out of place on its own. Even at this point it'd be worth it to buy the official Herald of Khorne instead.

#5: You're using gold instead of brass for your khorne units. Brass is more of an orange/brown metallic.

#6: Contrary to the post above me, you haven't painted between the lines. The claws on the feet of your Bloodletters demonstrate this. You need to practice precision painting. Buy a precise brush and practice on those claws.

#7: The group pictures are nice for finished armies, but for WIPs and accurate criticism you need to showcase the models more closely.

**Evariuda**

Thank you both for the feedback. The glossyness could be the lighting/camera. I had to improvise a bit with a bad camara/lighting.
For quarterdime though i find that your feedback comes over a bit harsh. It would be come over more like feedback then cristisism if you don't use a numbered list of what is wrong with my models and add some constructive feedback
.

**Quarterdime**

Evariuda wrote:
Thank you both for the feedback. The glossyness could be the lighting/camera. I had to improvise a bit with a bad camara/lighting.
For quarterdime though i find that your feedback comes over a bit harsh. It would be come over more like feedback then cristisism if you don't use a numbered list of what is wrong with my models and add some constructive feedback
.

It is constructive. That's why I numbered it. Point by point makes it easier to work with as opposed to just a ramble. I think that this forum community goes a little too far sugar-coating things for the sake of being polite.

**Evariuda**

Well i disagree, let's leave it at that

**Quarterdime**

Evariuda wrote:
Well i disagree, let's leave it at that

ok. I'm sure most people here would agree with you anyway.

**Xenocidal Maniac**

Looks really good! You've got a knack! Get some bases on those bad boys and they will look twice as good.

EDIT: Oh, and Warterdime, your job is not to be THE GUY WHO TELLS IT LIKE IT IS. That guy is a jerk. Period. I know you think you're being "frank", but you're just being rude. There are nicer ways to make the points that you did. A lot of your points don't make any sense anyway - "you're using the wrong color for brass!" LOL. Who says stuff like that? He can use whatever color he wants.

**Trondheim**

Xenocidal Maniac wrote:
Looks really good! You've got a knack! Get some bases on those bad boys and they will look twice as good.

EDIT: Oh, and Warterdime, your job is not to be THE GUY WHO TELLS IT LIKE IT IS. That guy is a jerk. Period. I know you think you're being "frank", but you're just being rude. There are nicer ways to make the points that you did. A lot of your points don't make any sense anyway - "you're using the wrong color for brass!" LOL. Who says stuff like that? He can use whatever color he wants.

Agreed on all accounts, lord you knows you are headed along the rigth path OP. Keep at it

**GiraffeX**

I think they are looking great especially for your first painted minis.

For better pics try taking them in natural day light without a flash.

Any thoughts on how you're going to do the basing?

**Bobaram**

I like the overall feel you've got going man! Definitely have a talent!

I agree with a lot of the points made, and Ifurita is right, a good matte varnish, I use a can I bought at hobby lobby. Will bring down the gloss a bunch.

For some of the gaps that were mentioned you can pick up some Liquid Green Stuff and brush it into the cracks, then a file or some after work to smooth it out.

On the Standard bearer, I don't know if it's the lighting or something on the paint but the cross bar under the banner almost looks like sprue to me. and hit up the skulls on top with a wash or something, they kind of look like lumps o red skull in the photo.

But Overall looks great.

**Evariuda**

Thank you guys for the feedback. Glad you guys like them ^^.
I will try the matte varnish and liquid green stuff once i figure out where to get it and what works well (i live in a country where even getting the mini's is hard if you don't know where to look).
The standard bearers bar is supposed to be slaanesh purple-ish but i can see that it doesn't really show on the picture. I will attempt to wash the skulls once i get time for it, currently the little warriors are taking my time

.

For the bases im looking around for stone rubble/spikes to glue on. I want to try and make it look like they warped in and stand in a crater or "warped" rubble. Just have to figure out where to get them and how to paint it

PS: will start posting some individual models once i get out of the evening shifts at work and start being home when there is still some daylight

**Alex Kolodotschko**

Fixed it for anyone who's feeling a bit fragile....

Quarterdime wrote:

Nice try buddy, you'll be painting like a pro in no time! Here's a few pointers...
#1: They're a bit too glossy for my tastes, perhaps try a matt varnish, unless you like them like that?

#2: They look a little unfinished to me, decide if you want to get those bases done, I think they really frame the model and will improve the overall look 100% imo

#3: Have a think about filling the gaps on the heads of the bloodletters and along the bodies of the plaguebearers, just a bit of greenstuff/liquid putty and you'll be solid.

#4: To me, that Bloodcrusher Herald looks too out of place on its own. Perhaps it's the angle of the picture. Maybe it's just me.

#5: From the pics it looks like you're using gold instead of brass for your khorne units. That's not to my taste but they're your toys

#6: I only just about noticed it but the brushwork is a tiny bit sloppy in some places, the claws on the feet of your Bloodletters demonstrate this. A smidge more practice at precision painting would be a good idea in my humble opinion. Buy a precise brush and practice on those claws if you feel like it.

#7: The group pictures are awesome! I enjoyed zooming in on the models one by one. Top Tip: For WIPs and accurate criticism you should try to showcase the models more closely.

Have a nice day.

I think that Quaterdime's pointers are bang on even if the sentences are a little abrupt in parts.
The list format makes a lot of sense, he's taken the time to critique the models properly and if ythe op were to make these point by point changes the models would look way better.
He's not getting paid for this!!!
My sugar coated version makes it too easy to dismiss alot of the valid points and will reenforce some bad habits and practices.

Just my two cents.

**Evariuda**

Well his points are valid, i just started and i can stil learn. But it was just my opinion that it comes over a bit harsh, and everyone is entitled to have his/her own opinion

**fleetwolf**

Quarterdime wrote:
#1: Too glossy

#2: Unfinished

#3: You need to fill the gaps on the heads of the bloodletters and along the bodies of the plaguebearers

#4: That Bloodcrusher Herald looks too out of place on its own. Even at this point it'd be worth it to buy the official Herald of Khorne instead.

#5: You're using gold instead of brass for your khorne units. Brass is more of an orange/brown metallic.

#6: Contrary to the post above me, you haven't painted between the lines. The claws on the feet of your Bloodletters demonstrate this. You need to practice precision painting. Buy a precise brush and practice on those claws.

#7: The group pictures are nice for finished armies, but for WIPs and accurate criticism you need to showcase the models more closely.

far out mate a bit brutal hey. I thought it was a pretty solid effort for his first go. I tell you what mate i would love to play against an army like that instead of this half assembled unpainted armies I come up against at my local GW. Thats a disgrace. Well done on your efforts. Keep up the good work and paint how you want to paint and whatever makes you happy. cheers

**Chris_P**

Pretty good job for a first go at it.