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Hi everyone

I'm very proud to announce a Kickstarter Pre-view of Asteroids by T.J.H Models

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1419757724/230385097?token=656800c6

It will be launching very soon

I'm sorry, but these aren't really much use in game unless you make the bases correspond to the in-game tokens size and shape, to enable easier calculation of collisions/cover etc.

They look nice enough, and for friendly games one can easily just take the bases as-is, but even in our friendly games we tend to stick as closely as possible to the tourney rules to try and keep our play level up.

Not sure if selling rocks is such an innovative idea.
Not even as X-Wing terrain:

it may not be an innovative idea

but i feel its more value for money.

thank you for your feedback

Well, without going into the usefulness of the product, there's a number of things that need looking at on the page itself. There's a number of spelling issues that need sorting, and all of the text probably wants a good review and maybe a little padding out. As for the images, some of them are badly cropped where you've put the red border around.

There's no clear indication of UK shipping charges, whether they're free or at a reduced rate from the international ones listed in the pledge levels.

I'd also recommend putting in details about the materials used to make the asteroids and what colours they'll be supplied in. Some of the pictures aren't overly clear.

In short, not a campaign I'll be backing, I have no need for these at present, but best of luck.

The asteroids in the "battlefield in a box" image look a little bit more convincing, to me, but are also more expensive. I do think I'd prefer slightly higher quality asteroids to the ones shown on the campaign page, though, despite the attractive price.

While I have no interest in the product itself the actual KS preview looks decent. As mentioned above you have a few spelling mistakes and no mention of what the casting material is. Apart from that I don't see anything that needs to be added, have you considered doing different coloured asteroids other than grey? Not only could it add colour to the KS page but it gives people a little more choice as well.

I have to say that it is a bajillion times more understandable than your terrain kickstarter anyway. Sorry to see that it didn't fund, I still haven't seen better designed MDF terrain than your stuff. Good luck with the project!

Maybe an idea for the hobbyist with 2 left hands but there are many tutorials on how to make asteroids.

http://community.spartangames.co.uk/index.php?/topic/8326-tuto-basing-and-asteroids/

A better idea would be, if the asteroids included buildings (a space base) or automatic weaponry.

Hi everyone

Cheers for all the feedback. i have now spell checked it.

I did spell check it before but never saved it, doh

The different colour idea is something to think about

 azreal13 wrote:
I'm sorry, but these aren't really much use in game unless you make the bases correspond to the in-game tokens size and shape, to enable easier calculation of collisions/cover etc.

They look nice enough, and for friendly games one can easily just take the bases as-is, but even in our friendly games we tend to stick as closely as possible to the tourney rules to try and keep our play level up.

I'm sorry but I must echo this comment. The bases really need to correspond to the size and shape of the standard asteroids for gameplay reasons.

 ph34r wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
I'm sorry, but these aren't really much use in game unless you make the bases correspond to the in-game tokens size and shape, to enable easier calculation of collisions/cover etc.

They look nice enough, and for friendly games one can easily just take the bases as-is, but even in our friendly games we tend to stick as closely as possible to the tourney rules to try and keep our play level up.

I'm sorry but I must echo this comment. The bases really need to correspond to the size and shape of the standard asteroids for gameplay reasons.

Do they really, or can you just mark the bases with a colour to indicate what they're meant to be? And how many of those spaceship games feature this, and do they all use different indicators to show size and shape? I had a look at the existing GF9 Asteroid box mentioned earlier, and that comes with 3 generic medium flying bases, and the rest of the asteroids have no bases at all and sit on the table.

Genuinely curious, X Wing is on my wishlist, but otherwise all I have is a very recently bought FSA 2 player starter box, and just reading the rulebook now suggests that there's no difference between one asteroid and the next that requires special rules or basing.

Yes, they really do, the precise shape and size of the asteroids is critical to movement and shooting, and the tokens supplied with the game are all unique and irregular shapes, nothing that could be replaced by colour coding or similar.

And as it appears X Wing is second only to 40K in terms of popularity right now, it is probably those players you want to appeal to most, and while the GF9 rocks don't feature unique stands, there is a set that does, and it would be a massive USP over the GF9 ones, which are probably currently the best known.

I'm fine with bases that sit on top of the existing asteroid templates to be honest. If these bases were the 'correct' shape you'd still have to be able to pull the whole rod and asteroid off in some cases to let ships overlap correctly.

Very true, which suggests to me that there is an opportunity here for someone to design something which adds a 3D element to the board, has bases the correct shape for gameplay purposes and easily detachable (magnetic?) for those occasions when they get obstructive.

I can't figure out if this is a joke and everyone's playing along with it, or if it's serious.

i agree you can always mount them on the asteroid templates in the box game if you really want to

Garden stones on sticks. The Kickstarter. Wow.

Asteroids by T.J.H Models

has now been lauched

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1419757724/asteroids

yeah,
These asteroids could be placed ontop of the X-wing tokens during play.

You might want to make more effort in making the asteroids look more interesting.
like eggs asteroids. His asteroids are vastly superior and I think I'll wait for his.

Are these actually made out of stone or a cast material? resin / clay / plaster?
These do just look like railway ballast stones on sticks.

If you're using stones you could switch to lava rock... they look better.
Although there are already lava rock sellers on Ebay .. £10.75 inc postage for 6


They look more interesting than yours so I think you should reconcider your price.

IMO your clear bases painted black look bad.
IMO you should leave them clear or try and source black plastic bases.

Token shaped bases would be more professional for x-wing players.
Gamesofwar sell x-wing compatable clear asteroid bases..

They are £5 for a set of 6 bases, these will make your Asteroids more x-wing compatable.

I bought 20 sets for my own asteroid replacement / wreck project.

Panic...

This looks like something my club would look into getting some. There's a thread asking around with them, and I'll get back to you on that.

Is there any word on how similar the size and shapes of these are to the official card asteroid counters? We're unlikely to run any official tournaments, but just in case.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Garden stones on sticks. The Kickstarter. Wow.

That's how I made mine. I bought a $5 bag of lava rocks at Home Depot (a bit chain construction/garden store here in the US), drybrushed them a bit, drilled a hole, and inserted the left over 40k flight stands I had. I just place them on top of my asteroid cutouts for X-wing. The cutouts are the actual in game piece just like the base is for the fighters (and not the raised model).

Warboss has it right. For the same cost as six of these asteroids, you could make hundreds of your own.

Plus lava rock looks much more like an asteroid than these do as it's more porous, and it's much lighter per stone.

Bag of lava rock, spool of wire and can of spray paint would come to about the same price as these.

Update #1

Hi everyone

I've had a couple of emails asking about having clear flying bases instead of black ones

You can have either black or clear bases with your pledges

I will email everyone for their preference’s when the kickstarter has finished

Thank you for all your support

T.

yeah,
What are they made of ?

Panic...

Looks like he took our advice and bought some lava rocks for the "mark 2 asteroid" stretch goal...

Interesting that they're going to be an add-on rather than a straight upgrade...

I just hope his neighbor doesn't catch him taking the stones out of his Japanese zen rock garden.

What did you get for your Kickstarter pledge?

I got Kingdom Death!

I got Raging Heroes!

What did you guys get?

Wait. So these are actual rocks? I that case it would probably be quicker to go outside and rummage through the soil than wait until August for you to send them...

Still, if it is this project that starts your terrain company and thus this beauty then so be it!

 Jimsolo wrote:
What did you get for your Kickstarter pledge?

I got Kingdom Death!

I got Raging Heroes!

What did you guys get?

Spoiler:

Or you get this one.


Would nice if he would not ignore the real question, otherwise it looks like a Mandelbaum scheme

7 pounds of lava rocks: less than $5.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Mr-Bar-B-Q-7-lb-Lava-Rock-05002/100331664

Probably $5 of brass tubing to make the stands.Some slotta bases from ebay for the same price.

I'll keep my money.