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**Kroothawk**

pretre wrote:
Enigma Crisis wrote:
Stickmonkey (2-5-2013)
Psykers-defense: All Tau have some base immunity to psychic powers, and thus any Tau unit can deny the witch, with the suits gaining an improvement to this roll.

This is the best rumor ever.
Let me do the same thing for every upcoming codex:

pretre wrote:All units in 40k have some base immunity to psychic powers, and thus any unit from any book can deny the witch.

Is that your second rumour?

Actually, in Xenology, there were hints that ethereals were created by Eldar to create a race immune to Chaos. The BL novel Fire Warrior also established that it is nigh impossible to corrupt a Tau Fire Warrior. Some time ago rumours appeared that SM and Tau will be pals because the IoM realised that Tau immunity to Chaos is essential for the survival of the IoM against Chaos. ATM we only have that SM and Tau are pals with no reason given, I expect a reason in the fluff of the new Codex (personal speculation, not any secret info though).

Still, new suits in one box, new ethereal rules to make them worth taking, new big Kroot monster, new markerlight abilities are on everyone's wish list, so easy to make up. So I wait and see.

**pretre**

Hehehe.

I can add that one, but I'd have to immediate classify it as DUH

**Kingsley**

Kroothawk wrote:
The BL novel Fire Warrior also established that it is nigh impossible to corrupt a Tau Fire Warrior.

Uh, have you read that novel?

**Kroothawk**

Kingsley wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
The BL novel Fire Warrior also established that it is nigh impossible to corrupt a Tau Fire Warrior.

Uh, have you read that novel?

1.) It is actually not that bad for the novelization of an ego shooter. Has some tau info not available anywhere else. It is far better than, say, Courage and Honour by Graham McNeill.
2.) Had to read it again after years because some clowns used the book as proof that Tau can be corrupted, only the book says the opposite.

**Clunker**

WOW.

If even half of this stuf is real, things will be getting very interesting for our favorite Blues!

**RogueRegault**

pretre wrote:
the Faeit 212 inbox (has to remain anonymous) wrote:
I've never seen those kroot giant rules before (currently named the Krootonne).

There is a new large kroot model, but it's nothing like what's written, doesn't have a rider and doesn't have guns.

Fire warriors can't be upgraded to bs4, the squad leader has an upgrade that raises their BS though for (currently) 50 points and goes away if he dies.

I have like three versions of the rules, but I think some people are wish listing after getting hint of some stuff that's leaked.

50 points? So the squad is 40% more expensive to hit 33% more often with no increase in survivability and the BS goes away with a precision shot? GW can't into math.

**Backfire**

RogueRegault wrote:
pretre wrote:
the Faeit 212 inbox (has to remain anonymous) wrote:
I've never seen those kroot giant rules before (currently named the Krootonne).

There is a new large kroot model, but it's nothing like what's written, doesn't have a rider and doesn't have guns.

Fire warriors can't be upgraded to bs4, the squad leader has an upgrade that raises their BS though for (currently) 50 points and goes away if he dies.

I have like three versions of the rules, but I think some people are wish listing after getting hint of some stuff that's leaked.

50 points? So the squad is 40% more expensive to hit 33% more often with no increase in survivability and the BS goes away with a precision shot? GW can't into math.

No, that's perfect. It silences "Fire warriors should be BS4!" crowd, yet doesn't actually change the character of the army.

As for other stuff, looking what GW has released to other armies of late, it's hardly surprising if Tau gets a flyer, and some monstrous creature/megasuit (or both). Gotta have big models.

Kroot getting all those abilities sound unlikely, unless they represent different adaptations and have to be bought separately. Particularly Furious charge, it would make them S5 on charge, not likely, unless they have S3 base like Orks.

**kestral**

Not liking the idea of furious charge kroot. All kroot really needed was stealth instead of the stupid woods rule. It sound like they are making them tau orks rather than cunning hunters.

**Enigma Crisis**

Stickmoneky 4-5-2013

So, to give more info for the masses.

The information I recently provided BigRed comes from a late 2012 playtest, I believe Oct or Nov timeframe.

The psychic defense boost I mentioned was described as Tau are just harder to target with warp powers, they have very little presence in the warp. I asked my source more on this, and he said during playtest all Tau got a DtW reroll. Tau in Suits got a 5+ DtW.

The Kroot monster is very cool looking, but I fear rules wise its going to suffer from Pyrovore syndrome. Its expensive, and shortlived. A beast in CC, but it's hard to get it there. Roughly the size of a Maulerfiend, its like a hybrid between the Krootox and the Great Knarloc. Beaked head. 4legged. Over muscled. Kinda apelike pose and body structure.

The "uber-suit" is NOT at all like a wraithlord. It is not suited for CC, and really cant be outfitted for that role. Last I saw the T was only 7, but others are saying it is T8. I was talking about it with my source earlier and he made mention of the plasma weapon having ignore cover and thinking it will be the load out of choice. He felt that it was very balanced points to capability wise for its role in the codex. Visual wise it is definitely in line with the battle suit. Reminds me a lot of the old BattleTech line merged with Tau aesthetic.

I don't think the Vespid Scooter made the cut. It was in a number of early drafts, kind of like the genosian fighters in Star Wars. Yes, flying creatures with a flying vehicle... Named after a famous motorized bike.... 80s GW may have done this, not 10s.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

**Ledabot**

These rumors are conflicting all over the place. All I can say is that somethings telling bull.

**Enigma Crisis**

Ledabot wrote:
These rumors are conflicting all over the place. All I can say is that somethings telling bull.

I hear you I won't fully believe anything till I have a book in my hand.

**davethepak**

Actually, they are not conflicting that much - there are some minor variations, but they are fairly close.

However....um....all tau already get deny the witch.
Everyone does now so.......unless that gets better.

I hope the kroot MC gets a decent save ....GW consistently fails to correctly judge the significance of a good save - a 4+ on a MC is garbage (ask the harpy) its dead, just plain dead.

Also, where is my flachette drone?
(send drone into oncoming assault...boom!).

**uberjoras**

No, a 4+ save on an MC is fine, it just has to be cheap enough to warrant using it. Hopefully, they don't try something silly like putting it in the Heavy slot though, that would make it -really- useless.

**kanebbcksc**

Well, most of this sounds pretty cool to me! I already did my own version of the Tau MC suit awhile back, and discussed rules for it here on Dakka... So, can't wait to get an official rule set for the model (Dreadknight conversion). As for new Crisis kits; can't wait! I'm deployed until Aug so hopefully it all comes out before then so I can come back to significant upgrades for my army. Now to figure out what to do with the 20+ Crisis suits I've got, the 3 Broadsides, etc...

**Enigma Crisis**

kanebbcksc wrote:
Well, most of this sounds pretty cool to me! I already did my own version of the Tau MC suit awhile back, and discussed rules for it here on Dakka... So, can't wait to get an official rule set for the model (Dreadknight conversion). As for new Crisis kits; can't wait! I'm deployed until Aug so hopefully it all comes out before then so I can come back to significant upgrades for my army. Now to figure out what to do with the 20+ Crisis suits I've got, the 3 Broadsides, etc...

Keep them for an older Cadre. I don't they will make the older suits not work on the tabletop.

**Mad4Minis**

Kilkrazy wrote:
If the Battlesuit model (now 12 years old and pretty badly moulded) was redesigned with a range of upgrades including Broadside bits, it could easily work.

It would of course be a lot more expensive than current models, because of the extra bits.

That would fit the GW business model. However I do look forward to new Tau models...although the timing kinda sucks as Im about to start a Tau army...and now I need to go easy since new stuff is on the horizon.

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Micky wrote:
Enigma Crisis wrote:

FOC: Some specific HQs move Crisis Suits to troops. One moves two Kroot units to troops.

Oh gawd, now im getting excited about the Ankgor Prok model i picked up in a trade X_X

Id love that...Crisis suits as troops...yes please. It would fit the GW trend as of late...allow the more expensive models as troops, sell more expensive models.

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davethepak wrote:

Also, where is my flachette drone?
(send drone into oncoming assault...boom!).

Suicide drones would be great. Maybe use a small blast marker...fly drone into enemy, detonate.

**derling**

I'm not saying why i'm saying this....

But very little of ANY of the rumors pass my smell test...and usuualy by now they start to.

I could be wrong though.

**Lobokai**

I just hope they leave D-pods alone

**Jefffar**

Lobukia wrote:
I just hope they leave D-pods alone

They probably won't be 5 points any more, but hopefully they get rid of the 12" bubble.

**Ledabot**

It kinda sicks how Tau is really into cover saves though. They are easy to take out with weapons that ignore cover like the new chaos bale flamer. Well, the tanks aren't so scared of the baleflamer, but all the infantry run scared from it. Its really good!

As stated earlier. I hope that Tau get some cool aa ability. Flack missiles on suit wont really do it for me since they're not really that high strength.

**Jefffar**

Cover save heavy Tau makes a lot of sense. It helps in the shooting phase but not in the assault phase.

**DakkaHammer**

A lot of this stuff seems fishy to me. Having a dreadknight makes sense, but changing the markerlights, adding game-long effects from weapons... seems like too much change to be plausible.

**Veskrashen**

Eh, I don't expect some of the more overpowered stuff to make it in.

All I really want:

- More options on a cheaper Crisis Suit
- Crisis Suits as Troops unlocked by HQ
- Appropriate points reductions to keep in line with 5th/6th prices
- More plentiful / easier to use markerlights
- Decent AA flyer
- Keep DPods roughly the same

Give me that, and I'll be a happy man.

**maceria**

Hmmm, the Vespid flyer thing seems really really unlikely. Like followup said, hopefully dropped from final.

Besides, if the Tau need some kind of small flier, I would imagine the would use some kind of drone, perhaps that's dropped from a bigger flyer, like a Remora from a shark.

**FreddieTau6**

Seen so much about the tau recently that I want it to be true but guess we just need to wait and see!

The flyer, "Tau Dreadknight" and improved vespid are what I'm hoping for the most cos I want so much to love the vespid bless em but they just aren't worth it!!

Just want some fecking dates now!!

**Oaka**

I really hope the Kroot HQ choice rumor is true. All I want to do is field a legal Kroot army. I wouldn't imagine they would actually be any good in close combat, because you can't add a great close combat element to a shooty army or the codex will be too strong. The discussion about a Kroot MC that sorely lacks anything in the rules department is evidence enough that the playtesting does not want to give a good close combat option to the codex. I'll still buy the model, though, unless it actually looks like a bigger Krootox (shudders).

**hotsauceman1**

The vespid flyer sounds interesting.
Maybe it will be a flyer sqruadren or something.

**Oaka**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
The vespid flyer sounds interesting.
Maybe it will be a flyer sqruadren or something.

Flyer Units sounds like a damn good idea to me, and I would love to see it introduced in the Tau codex.

**uberjoras**

I really dont think an av10, probably open-topped flyer would be all that awful, assuming we got something else with a bit more punch/versatility to round it out. Maybe as a jetbike, those are pretty solid ground for GW, though the idea of t5 vespids amuses me to no end.

**Desubot**

Oaka wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
The vespid flyer sounds interesting.
Maybe it will be a flyer sqruadren or something.

Flyer Units sounds like a damn good idea to me, and I would love to see it introduced in the Tau codex.

The way GW has been going its probably going to be a giant flying vespid queen with vector strike and a template st6 ap3 neuron blaster (lol i hope)