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2014/12/19 21:21:01
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Peregrine wrote:
Yes. LRBTs give you AV 14 spam and a useful long-range gun, two things that are very important when camping objectives at the back of the table.
By taking an all-tank army, you deny all enemy anti-infantry guns, but you will have real trouble if you encounter, say, Necrons.
Every unit has its counter. And the ability to entirely negate huge parts of an army is IMO more than enough to make up for the occasional problems with armies with tons of anti-tank units, especially since those armies aren't exactly helpless against other types of troops.
With the new vehicle destruction rules, LRBT's seem a good choice.
Before they were too weak against drop pod melta to the rear spam, but now?
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2014/12/19 21:35:46
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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How about some objective secured transports like Rhinos and Razorbacks.
Once they are in position and in cover, they can be quite durable.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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2014/12/19 21:55:48
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Tervigons are pretty good.
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2014/12/19 22:23:50
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Rampaging Carnifex
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I'm a big fan of Tyranid Warriors. Don't laugh!
They're versatile, capable of cc or ranged support, fearless, and cheap per wound. They unlock formations, fulfil troop requirements, and provide fearless to everything around them. They can be DS in, outflanked, or walk. They have ID weapons available as well as grenades (finally).
I've only ever had them ID'd iin CC, s8 ranged is always directed elsewhere
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2014/12/20 05:37:55
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Stalwart Tribune
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WellSpokenMan wrote:Akiasura wrote: WellSpokenMan wrote:Noise Marines, Plague Marines, and SM Bikers are not troops. They are units from other sections that can become troops through an HQ choice. It's not hard, if you look at the top of the page it tells you what section they are from.
FOC changes allow them to be taken as troops.
It's not hard, you just have to read the entry in the relevant HQ choice
Then what about Dataslates, Formations, Codex Supplements, Forgeworld, etc. Would anything that gets obsec count? Those FOC swaps are going away, and if someone needs somebody else to tell them that SM Bikers are good, then they probably belong in an assisted living home.
But are they best? And why you would not count supplements?
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2014/12/20 05:43:15
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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I'm going to have to go with none other than crisis suits (ala FE). Durable (being a marine with 2 wounds), fast, maneuverable, and have an answer to almost any problem.
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2014/12/20 06:01:02
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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Necron warriors and Ork boyz seem like the best troops IMO. Necron warriors are a mainstay of most armies i've seen, and boyz are great for fielding a lot of slaughter.
Fire warriors are ok but are really just not great without support.
Eldar and Dark elder troops are pretty personalized, so they each have their uses.
Marines are too cost heavy and generic.
Nids are ok, but I find boyz to be better.
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2014/12/20 07:28:59
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Tac marines. Especially ravenguard. Scouting rhinos are awesome. You controle the board turn 1. 3+ armor, ATSKNF, Krak nades - all you need for the role. Noone does it better and cheaper.
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2014/12/20 07:59:05
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Douglas Bader
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koooaei wrote:Tac marines. Especially ravenguard. Scouting rhinos are awesome. You controle the board turn 1. 3+ armor, ATSKNF, Krak nades - all you need for the role. Noone does it better and cheaper.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/627259.page
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2014/12/20 08:10:52
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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White scars bikers, with Iron hands bikers just a bit behind
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2014/12/20 08:31:19
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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In my opinion this thread is derailing with FOC gimmicks. Any troop choice that can't be taken as troops solo doesn't really earn the title of "best troop choice in the game". Troops that use synergy as a crutch doesn't work for me in this topic either.
If you took 500 points of a basic troop type only and pitted them against others armies of the same criteria I'm pretty sure Ork Boyz would win. The loss of mob rule has hit them slightly as has the nerf to the boss pole, still equivalent points of Ork boyz pitted against any other troop in the game I reckon would come out on top.
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2014/12/20 08:55:45
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Another thread where fans want to have movie marines for 14 ppm.
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2014/12/20 09:07:13
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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koooaei wrote:
Another thread where fans want to have movie marines for 14 ppm.
In this role Marines are not bad.
If you bring them into action, they can shine.
Marines are generally not easy to remove from an objective.
Clearing an objective is another topic and not meant to accomplish by basic Maines.
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2014/12/20 09:08:47
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Cron Warriors/Immortals. Glance pretty much any vehicles to death with their standard weapons. And pretty difficult to put down for good.
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2014/12/20 16:18:31
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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koooaei wrote:Tac marines. Especially ravenguard. Scouting rhinos are awesome. You controle the board turn 1. 3+ armor, ATSKNF, Krak nades - all you need for the role. Noone does it better and cheaper.
They are in contention for the worst troops in the game, so I can not agree with this at all. Automatically Appended Next Post: wuestenfux wrote: koooaei wrote:
Another thread where fans want to have movie marines for 14 ppm.
In this role Marines are not bad.
If you bring them into action, they can shine.
Marines are generally not easy to remove from an objective.
Clearing an objective is another topic and not meant to accomplish by basic Maines.
It's easy to get tac marines off an objective. They can't fight back.
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2014/12/20 16:34:54
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Dakka Veteran
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Necron warriors. 13 points a piece with ws bs4 and t4 with S4 gun that can always glance vehicles on 6's. Plus a 4+ armour and a 5 un reanimation....
VERY VERY versatile unit in my opinion!
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2014/12/20 17:29:43
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Martel732 wrote: koooaei wrote:Tac marines. Especially ravenguard. Scouting rhinos are awesome. You controle the board turn 1. 3+ armor, ATSKNF, Krak nades - all you need for the role. Noone does it better and cheaper.
They are in contention for the worst troops in the game, so I can not agree with this at all.
They're not good, but they're not even remotely close to being the worst troops in the game.
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2014/12/20 17:31:22
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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Ok, now I have to ask - what are the worst troops in the game?
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the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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2014/12/20 17:34:59
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vipoid,
This is gonna be good
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2014/12/20 18:40:58
Subject: Re:Best troops in the game?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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DarkLink wrote:Martel732 wrote: koooaei wrote:Tac marines. Especially ravenguard. Scouting rhinos are awesome. You controle the board turn 1. 3+ armor, ATSKNF, Krak nades - all you need for the role. Noone does it better and cheaper.
They are in contention for the worst troops in the game, so I can not agree with this at all.
They're not good, but they're not even remotely close to being the worst troops in the game.
If viewed as a tax, they are a high one, making them one of the worst.
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2014/12/20 19:04:44
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Kabalite Conscript
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Dark Eldar Wyches have to be one of the worst troops in the game right now.
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2014/12/20 19:33:50
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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Hubris wrote:Dark Eldar Wyches have to be one of the worst troops in the game right now.
Good point, actually.
I keep forgetting that there's another page of troops in the DE codex.
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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2014/12/20 20:59:13
Subject: Best troops in the game?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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vipoid wrote: Hubris wrote:Dark Eldar Wyches have to be one of the worst troops in the game right now.
Good point, actually.
I keep forgetting that there's another page of troops in the DE codex.
I honestly forgot they existed too as a troops choice...
Good point
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