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anyone have pictures of the new command tank sprue ?

 RedFox wrote:
anyone have pictures of the new command tank sprue ?

Page 15 of this very thread. I haven't heard whether or not it will remain a limited release though.

General Hobbs wrote:


The rumors for Devs say there will be older marks of armor on the sprue.

Could these be the heresy era Marines that were rumored to be coming out?????

Faerit and Steve the Warboss as source?

The same post there claims that the Dev box will come with 5 boltguns.

Here is some valid points to take in that consideration: Have you heard any rumors about GW pulling a 9 month old set of the shelves to remake it? Because that's what is likely to happen if they change weapons in the devastator box from two to one. Wondering what I am talking about? I'm talking about Space Wolves Long Fangs. That box uses the Devastator Heavy weapons sprue and was released late summer last year.

Just think about it? Why would GW spend money on making two molds when they can do one?
It's not like they can use a fictional new sprue in the SW:LF box, that unit don't have a Gravcannon option...

Sorry, but my bulls**t detector is peaking. Also, the Devastators sprue is one of the first sets released with the “new” GW SM standard of gluing the arm and weapon hand together.

There's a redirect for it

 RedFox wrote:
There's a redirect for it

The ID of 404 makes me laugh a little.

I'm also more than a little saddened that we are reduced to fishing for URLs on GW's site for rumor as to new releases.

@Carnage43 -- I'm missing something.. what is the funny part about 404?

The 302 is actually more significant. Not sure if you're aware, but if you enter a valid page on GW's website, but miscapitalizaed, you get redirected to the "correctly capitalized" version of the file. This is probably because of one of the most annoying (in my opinion) things about Unix/Linux -- Default.htm is different from default.htm in the file system, and the web server software works the same way (I think you can turn it off). Before it's "fixed" on their end (I assume as they prepare the page or item), if you request command-tanks, it redirects it to Command-Tanks, before generating the error. If you typed in robot-tanks, you would go straight to the error.

It's actually really easy to see in action. Just click on any item on the GW website, and then change the capitalization. You'll see it "corrects" it for you. Now misspell something, and you'll see that there's no correction.

I think whoever figured this out as a way to fish for product releases earlier than the announcements wins bonus nerd points

 Talys wrote:
@Carnage43 -- I'm missing something.. what is the funny part about 404?

The 302 is actually more significant. Not sure if you're aware, but if you enter a valid page on GW's website, but miscapitalizaed, you get redirected to the "correctly capitalized" version of the file. This is probably because of one of the most annoying (in my opinion) things about Unix/Linux -- Default.htm is different from default.htm in the file system, and the web server software works the same way (I think you can turn it off). Before it's "fixed" on their end (I assume as they prepare the page or item), if you request command-tanks, it redirects it to Command-Tanks, before generating the error. If you typed in robot-tanks, you would go straight to the error.

It's actually really easy to see in action. Just click on any item on the GW website, and then change the capitalization. You'll see it "corrects" it for you. Now misspell something, and you'll see that there's no correction.

I think whoever figured this out as a way to fish for product releases earlier than the announcements wins bonus nerd points

404 is an error code for Page or File not Found. Because the page doesn't exist completely yet, the code being 404 is funny to people who know that error code.

I guess for Talys, 404 was not found

 rybackstun wrote:

 Talys wrote:
@Carnage43 -- I'm missing something.. what is the funny part about 404?

The 302 is actually more significant. Not sure if you're aware, but if you enter a valid page on GW's website, but miscapitalizaed, you get redirected to the "correctly capitalized" version of the file. This is probably because of one of the most annoying (in my opinion) things about Unix/Linux -- Default.htm is different from default.htm in the file system, and the web server software works the same way (I think you can turn it off). Before it's "fixed" on their end (I assume as they prepare the page or item), if you request command-tanks, it redirects it to Command-Tanks, before generating the error. If you typed in robot-tanks, you would go straight to the error.

It's actually really easy to see in action. Just click on any item on the GW website, and then change the capitalization. You'll see it "corrects" it for you. Now misspell something, and you'll see that there's no correction.

I think whoever figured this out as a way to fish for product releases earlier than the announcements wins bonus nerd points

404 is an error code for Page or File not Found. Because the page doesn't exist completely yet, the code being 404 is funny to people who know that error code.

Yes, I know what a 404 error is, bud if you read my post you see that the 404 is not what is significant (you could enter Fred-flinstone and get the same 404). What is significant is the 302 redirect to the correctly capitalized page (for example, Fred-Flinstone), which you can see in the URL.

If you enter a valid but miscapitalized page the web server ALWAYS goes to a 302 error that redirects to the correctly capitalized page.

I just don't get the humor in 404, I guess

Error 404 humour not found?

Grav Cannon devastators? Step aside, sternguard! There's a new drop pod cheesemaster in town.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Grav Cannon devastators? Step aside, sternguard! There's a new drop pod cheesemaster in town.

Indeed. Though Combi-Melta Sternguard will still see use due to special ammo and Melta basically making them able to take on any threat. They need to make it so IF Sternguard get Bolter Drill on Sternguard ammo though.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Grav Cannon devastators? Step aside, sternguard! There's a new drop pod cheesemaster in town.

Indeed. Though Combi-Melta Sternguard will still see use due to special ammo and Melta basically making them able to take on any threat. They need to make it so IF Sternguard get Bolter Drill on Sternguard ammo though.

Eh, if I'm dropping melta currently, it's in a command squad with 5 meltaguns. Sure, no special ammo, but the meltaguns get to shoot more than once, too.

You know, if they live through the reprisal.

Just means there will more more competition for the heavy support slots, since between drop Grav devs, thunderfire cannons and Grav cents...

Especially if the rumoured vehicle squads are true.

Fait just poasted about DAngles. It's a weak rumor but we do have redirects. Should we start a separate thread?

 Crazyterran wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Grav Cannon devastators? Step aside, sternguard! There's a new drop pod cheesemaster in town.

Indeed. Though Combi-Melta Sternguard will still see use due to special ammo and Melta basically making them able to take on any threat. They need to make it so IF Sternguard get Bolter Drill on Sternguard ammo though.

Eh, if I'm dropping melta currently, it's in a command squad with 5 meltaguns. Sure, no special ammo, but the meltaguns get to shoot more than once, too.

You know, if they live through the reprisal.

Just means there will more more competition for the heavy support slots, since between drop Grav devs, thunderfire cannons and Grav cents...

Especially if the rumoured vehicle squads are true.

Well, the Command Squad is a slotless choice as of right now (sure, you had to buy a stupid Captain/Librarian/Chaplain to get one...), so you could buy both. But yeah, Grav Cannon Dev squad would be mean to drop.

If they cost the same as lascannons (20pts) it would be 185 to drop 12 Grav shots into someone's face., 3 shots at bs5.

Maybe they'll let ultramarines devs be relentless when disembarking! :p

Id love to see some older armour kits for the devs and assault marines, especially if its older mks

esp for the assault marines the kit is showing its age, lots of the details on the mold seem fuzzy too.

Hopefully all the good stuff like chapter tactics will stay, relics will get cleared up a bit too likely to conform with other codexes.

Id love to be suprised by another kit or two as well, wouldnt we all?


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 Crazyterran wrote:
If they cost the same as lascannons (20pts) it would be 185 to drop 12 Grav shots into someone's face., 3 shots at bs5.

Maybe they'll let ultramarines devs be relentless when disembarking! :p

yes! thats going to be crazy to deal with, and you know there will be at least one or two formations that buff stuff in drop pods cause thats totally in the fluff.

 easysauce wrote:

esp for the assault marines the kit is showing its age, lots of the details on the mold seem fuzzy too.

Yeah, the current ASM, Devastator, and Command sprues are all "fuzzy" that way. Just older plastics, before GW mastered clean molds/sprues. Also, they barely have any parts compared to modern frames.

axisofentropy wrote:
Fait just poasted about DAngles. It's a weak rumor but we do have redirects. Should we start a separate thread?

Dark Angels codex comes late in June with a new clampack Interrogator Chaplain (completely new model with a powerfist, not the DV one).

I heard Grim Resolve now improves Overwatch.

I really want to see some sprue shots, i hope there will be less over abundance of MK7 heads and more diversity.

If Devs get shiny new kits while havocs keep running around with their old 3e stuff I'll be pissed. Oh wait, I already am...

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
I really want to see some sprue shots, i hope there will be less over abundance of MK7 heads and more diversity.

Hopefully it is atleast as diverse as the tactical squad kit. That was a step in the right direction.

 Kosake wrote:
If Devs get shiny new kits while havocs keep running around with their old 3e stuff I'll be pissed. Oh wait, I already am...

Just use the loyalist box. Grab some heavy stubbers and use the barrels to convert the heavy bolters to Autocannons. Sell the Grav cannon to local marine players to recoup some costs.

Then remember that havocs suck, go oblits.

Go take your chaos tears to another thread, so this one can stay on topic.

What do you suppose the odds are that the Stalker or Hunter are made viable in the new codex? The fact that they are stupidly easy to deal with and pretty bad choices for their slots has to have affected their sales somewhat. Perhaps giving them the option to forego their Skyfire for a turn to shoot at regular BS at ground targets. It is really a shame that they are not very good, because their model is very cool looking (if stupidly expensive when compared to other Rhino+Upgrade Sprue kits).

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
What do you suppose the odds are that the Stalker or Hunter are made viable in the new codex? The fact that they are stupidly easy to deal with and pretty bad choices for their slots has to have affected their sales somewhat. Perhaps giving them the option to forego their Skyfire for a turn to shoot at regular BS at ground targets. It is really a shame that they are not very good, because their model is very cool looking (if stupidly expensive when compared to other Rhino+Upgrade Sprue kits).

Maybe they'll let us take squadrons of them. Or maybe they'll give them a small points drop.


Don't see them giving it old interceptor, or some special rule that lets them fire full ballistic skill at any target as long as it is not shaken or stunned.

All I care about is whether or not they get a Flesh Tearers-esque formation. It'd be nice to do my AdMech Explorator army with only three 'dexes and one HQ/Troop tax, rather than four and two respectively(presently need C:SM for the GravCents as Myrmidons, C:BA for the Rhinos to transport Skitarii).

 Crazyterran wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
What do you suppose the odds are that the Stalker or Hunter are made viable in the new codex? The fact that they are stupidly easy to deal with and pretty bad choices for their slots has to have affected their sales somewhat. Perhaps giving them the option to forego their Skyfire for a turn to shoot at regular BS at ground targets. It is really a shame that they are not very good, because their model is very cool looking (if stupidly expensive when compared to other Rhino+Upgrade Sprue kits).

Maybe they'll let us take squadrons of them. Or maybe they'll give them a small points drop.


Don't see them giving it old interceptor, or some special rule that lets them fire full ballistic skill at any target as long as it is not shaken or stunned.

Maybe they could have two different firing profiles. Or heck, just give them Interceptor and be done with it.

So, something challenges the Space marine players dominance (Eldar), Space marine players whine and wail, GW brings out a whole new codex just to buff them still further.
Just like the IG Laser Destroyer which had the SM players wailing and whining until FW brought out the Vindicator Destroyer which is like the IG Laser Destroyer but with three times the rate of fire.

What about us in the Imperial Guard? When do we get some love? When does our Deathstrike finally get its STR D buff that it so desperately needs? When do we get a cool new kit that is actually useful? When do our tanks have the nerfs done to them in the new codex (the replacement of Lumbering Behemoth with Heavy) undone?

There is also an Eldar army box coming with or even before the upcoming Space Marine release according to Darnok

Darnok - Warseer Forum
I can confirm that Space Marines are coming, as well as Dark Angels. Three weeks of SM releases, one for DAs. After the AdMech stuff is done there is an Eldar armybox, and then it's Marines.

I always laugh when people complain about SM "dominance"- implying C:SM hasn't been a solidly average codex throughout most of its existence.

Where was this faux-outrage when IG leaf-blower lists were wiping their asses with C: SM throughout all of 5th, or during the Eldar\Tau\Daemon dominance of 6th?

Niiiccceeee, super pumped for this marine release. Marines and dark Angels back to back? This summer has just dthrown a huge wrench in my army list building, I can't wait to see what I can do at the end of the summer for nova