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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 00:00:30
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Three Color Minimum
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So I am almost done with this land raider tank for a miniwargaming commission and wanted to get thoughts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 00:29:04
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks lovely... but a bit clean...
Also, the metalics can use another wash...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 01:00:14
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Thanks. Any critiques?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 01:10:04
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
Oromocto, NB, Canada
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Paint the smoke dischargers the same color as the hull.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 01:32:05
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Three Color Minimum
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Oh ok I will do try to do that it my be a little hard since it was already painted with metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 01:36:06
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
Oromocto, NB, Canada
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Just a suggestion. Of all the armoured vehicles I have commanded or travelled in, they have always been the same color as the hull.
However, the metallic does not look bad, so go with what feels/ looks right.
Mantis Warriors?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 01:42:47
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Three Color Minimum
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No, its a commission for a custom chapter that someone already made and I am just adding to there collection. Thanks for the advice though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:34:24
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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The only thing i could say something about is the tracks.. they looks abit too clean. put some rust and mud on there and it will look great!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:39:56
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Ya I am just a bit worried it will be ruined. I was thinking of drybrushing a little brown on the bottom near the tracks and have a transition from light to dark brown.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:46:34
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Weathering could go a long way for your Landraider. You can always seal is and then paint on top of it if you're worried about mistakes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:51:28
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Ok guys I am going to just go for it and I will post a pic later tonight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:34:31
Subject: Re:Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Douglas Bader
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If you're going to be selling models for money you need to do a better job of assembling them. There shouldn't be gaps or misaligned parts, if you tried to send me that for a commission I'd demand a refund.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:39:26
Subject: Re:Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Dakka Veteran
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Peregrine wrote:If you're going to be selling models for money you need to do a better job of assembling them. There shouldn't be gaps or misaligned parts, if you tried to send me that for a commission I'd demand a refund.
I was worried about being rude, but since you already said it.. I would never pay for this. Look at the work Frontline Gaming does, it's so much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:47:25
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Ya I was a little bit worried about that, is the paint job good enough though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:49:25
Subject: Re:Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Peregrine wrote:If you're going to be selling models for money you need to do a better job of assembling them. There shouldn't be gaps or misaligned parts, if you tried to send me that for a commission I'd demand a refund.
Random Dude wrote: Peregrine wrote:If you're going to be selling models for money you need to do a better job of assembling them. There shouldn't be gaps or misaligned parts, if you tried to send me that for a commission I'd demand a refund.
I was worried about being rude, but since you already said it.. I would never pay for this. Look at the work Frontline Gaming does, it's so much better.
Guys.. there will always be someone that is better.. but ofcourse you should give him the critique he needs, but if you took your time telling him he's not good enough, atleast take your time to give him something constructive so that he can get better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:52:14
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
Oromocto, NB, Canada
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The target array by the heavy bolster was missed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 04:11:22
Subject: Re:Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Three Color Minimum
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Yes please give me things I can improve on. Here is the new land raider:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 04:20:37
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Moving to the Painting & Modeling forum rather than Showcase since this is still an in-progress piece.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 05:28:48
Subject: Re:Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Douglas Bader
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DiDDe wrote:Guys.. there will always be someone that is better.. but ofcourse you should give him the critique he needs, but if you took your time telling him he's not good enough, atleast take your time to give him something constructive so that he can get better.
I gave him constructive advice on what to improve: fix the assembly quality, especially the gaps and misaligned pieces. Just looking at the model it's pretty obvious where there are things that need to be improved. For example, the misaligned halves of the exhaust parts are extremely obvious and inexcusable on a commission piece.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 05:41:59
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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What does everyone think of the paintjob itself though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 07:37:47
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Douglas Bader
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It's adequate, but not spectacular. You've managed to get a clean base coat and some basic highlighting, but you haven't done any real detail work. I guess it's ok if someone just wants to meet a painting requirement without doing their own work, but it's a really bland model that I can't imagine paying money for even if the assembly issues didn't exist.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 09:25:29
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Los Angeles, CA
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The yellow parts also look like they need another coat or two, even in the first set of pictures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 09:58:53
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Drakhun
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Your base coats look good and clean.
I like that you have started to weather it but its not quite there yet. The land raider has some great lines that beg to be darkened up some to give it a good feeling of depth.
If you are familiar with how to do an oil wash it would make the doors, panels, treads etc really pop.
Also I would add some weathering powders to the smoke stacks using an iron oxide or black of some sort. You know them things are gonna be dirty and grimey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 13:04:47
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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I did my smoke-stacks using GW washes. Successive washes of various colours, working from a medium-brown to a black at the top.
A bit around the gun barrels too, maybe.
The tracks just need some muddying up, too.
As for the Frontline Gaming piece, they didn't drill any of the barrels? For shame
I didn't think the LR HB had a targeting array. Mine doesn't, as it's not quite the same as the Razorback part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 16:01:53
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Thanks so much for the advice guys, the photos are not that good I guess, I actually did a lot of edge highlighting and shading. I will post a new wip in a little. Here is another piece of work I did but for some reason when I record it, it comes out much clearer so I will try that on the next land raider update. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-QkhHqVVTY&list=UU71xaKeVpiSK7gHI18z0fEA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 16:15:07
Subject: Re:Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Nasty Nob
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I feel like the tracks and the exhausts need to be much grimier than the other metallic parts. The tracks could use a brownish wash, to make them seem dirty, while the exhausts might want a black or oily wash, to make them look more soot-covered.
While this piece might not be as impressive as some other commission pieces, there's no evidence that the poster is charging top-end commission prices, either. Some people are paying for someone to produce an impressive centerpiece for their army. Other people don't like to paint, and are paying someone to do it. Even a lot of commission painters offer different levels of quality for varying prices.
I just mention the metallics because I think it would be really easy to sort out quickly and would improve the look of the model without much more work.
I would NOT recommend more weathering on the model, as I presume that the large panels are blank because the recipient wants to do transfers/custom work for his chapter insignia. Much more weathering will hit those areas, and it's going to look bad if you have dirt or paint chips UNDERNEATH your Chapter insignia. That stuff needs to be done after the transfers are on the model.
Construction tips are correct, but I don't know if the OP took this as a general modeling commission, and had to do assembly, or if he received a completed model and is just tasked with painting, so it might be out of his control.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 18:00:29
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Thanks everyone for the advice but I dont need any anymore. The client is fine with it and thats all that matters to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 18:23:10
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anyway, improvement is something this hobby always give us...
I liked the weathering on the bottom of the model, and i think it look great, BUT, another wash on the metalics would help a lot (i still think they are to "bright").
Anyway, congratulations. Good to know your client is happy...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/08/04 18:24:22
If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page
Please, if you think im wrong, correct me (i will try to take it constructively). |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 22:06:03
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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that's great to hear! but just one more little piece of advice for the next time. if you're going to weather the sides again like you did on this one. you really need to do atleast the same on the threads..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 22:52:35
Subject: Really need advice on a miniwargaming land raider
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Douglas Bader
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deathwing fanboy wrote: Thanks everyone for the advice but I dont need any anymore. The client is fine with it and thats all that matters to me.
The client might have low standards, but if you're planning on doing more commissions in the future you should pay attention to the advice you've been given. It might save you a lot of trouble in the future.
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