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Paradigm wrote:Dog looks good! And I know exactly where that objective is going, and stand by to pilfer ideas!

Cheers! I've thieved a light from the wife's cake supolies. Not sure how to mount it yet, butt I'll wager it will involve dead zone components.

Gitsplitta wrote:I love the guard doggie! Awwww.... and he has his favorite chew-toy too!

I know, cute eh?

Theophony wrote:Excellent guard dog.

I wonder how the dog companions from Zombicide would look like for sidekicks

I reckon they'd make good cyber hounds, too.

Viktor von Domm wrote:holy bat signal....batman...^^

and doggie looks like a crss between Churchill and Wilhelm the second^^

That's the one

Next, I need to get some cats. I'd like Catwoman to have a base swarming in them!

Oh, an idea. Rather than building the shrine as an |_| shape (side, front, side) go for \_/ - would that work?

Not exactly following the shrine idea, can you blue tack it together for me so I can see it?

First of all, congrats on the new side (and very long term) proyect!

Gotham is coming along great, nice puppie!

Littletower wrote:First of all, congrats on the new side (and very long term) proyect!

Gotham is coming along great, nice puppie!

Thanks buddy Looking forward to the pink invasion! I'm enjoying Batman very much, and hopefully will have a batrep after tomorrow night

Theophony wrote:Not exactly following the shrine idea, can you blue tack it together for me so I can see it?

Ask and ye shall receive


A guy I know did this with a couple of Bastions to make the sides and back (so a trapezium) which looks very cool but would be too chunky for my needs. This gives me a nice frontage I think; yes, it makes making the flooring more challenging but that's a cross I'll have to bear
Which angled side looks better, as you look it, left (narrow) or right (wide)? Thoughts?

Big feral cats Malifauxs Hoarcats prides worth a look in fact Malifaux is worth a look for fun skirmishy models in general.

I like that setup for the church/shrine. Not only does it make it go a little bit further, but it also suggests a larger building 'off board' which is fitting. I'm also a fan of setting up 'streets' that run diagonally across the board, which the trapezium setup allows; have buildings parallel to each side and you get a nice, varied layout rather than just a 'grid' look.

Looking forward to the batrep, is this your first game?

I like the right hand side of the church. If your going to widen a building then might as well go big . How will this function as terrai? Will it be somewhere to fight in? Or will it be decoration for the side of a table?

Is there a particular reason you have chosen those angles? Such as a convenient reference/weak point on the pieces should you want to cut them to fit with a mitred edge.

Otherwise, it depends on how much space you want the building to take up; 12 inches, 18, 20... Decide on that and make the angles to fit.

Llamahead wrote:Big feral cats Malifauxs Hoarcats prides worth a look in fact Malifaux is worth a look for fun skirmishy models in general.

I have very mixed feelings about wyrd stuff. Mostly cos I had a bit of a spat with the guy in charge in the early days.

Paradigm wrote:I like that setup for the church/shrine. Not only does it make it go a little bit further, but it also suggests a larger building 'off board' which is fitting. I'm also a fan of setting up 'streets' that run diagonally across the board, which the trapezium setup allows; have buildings parallel to each side and you get a nice, varied layout rather than just a 'grid' look.

Looking forward to the batrep, is this your first game?

Thanks, and it will be! metropolis is teaching me and another friend who's planning on starting out with joker. Doing 150/$500, stiill not quite sure what I'm playing yet!

Theophony wrote:I like the right hand side of the church. If your going to widen a building then might as well go big . How will this function as terrai? Will it be somewhere to fight in? Or will it be decoration for the side of a table?

Functional, definitely. Yeah, wider it is then!

Dr H wrote:Is there a particular reason you have chosen those angles? Such as a convenient reference/weak point on the pieces should you want to cut them to fit with a mitred edge.

Otherwise, it depends on how much space you want the building to take up; 12 inches, 18, 20... Decide on that and make the angles to fit.

Indeed, thinking in terms of my mitre block I think that I'll 135°, that should do the trick

 Theophony wrote:
I like the right hand side of the church. If your going to widen a building then might as well go big . How will this function as terrai? Will it be somewhere to fight in? Or will it be decoration for the side of a table?

And if you want to go completely nuts, you do what Phutarf has done and made the biggest fething Cathedral ever. Seriously, check out his blog. It's awesome.

Oh, I have! It's bonkers

well... a roof and ...and...i would actually try to repair all the damage GW made...

and yeah \_/ shape looks very good...a handrail fro the entry stair maybe?...
and even some statues like the Dr. Who ones? these angels with "blind" "deaf" and "quiet"?

I was thinking more grotesque gargoyles. Also, angle :

it will be huge....

and of course gargoyles^^ i am often into mixing universes^^

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
it will be huge....

and of course gargoyles^^ i am often into mixing universes^^

Yes!!!! 1000x YES!
One of the best cartoons ever

Rikers best acting ever

Shouldn't be too big. It will sit on the edge of the board, is my thinking. Equally, Batman demands busy tables! And gargoyles - TNG cast ftw! Loved that show.

 Theophony wrote:

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
it will be huge....

and of course gargoyles^^ i am often into mixing universes^^

Yes!!!! 1000x YES!
One of the best cartoons ever

Rikers best acting ever

cool! iirc i watched all shows of that er...show...i loved it and it always felt kinda special to know hat in the orginal version riker (aka frakes) ...as an old trekkie^^ besides, i had the hots back then for demona...think about me what you like...

So, a Batrep. However, basically, it's an amazing game - one of the best small scale skirmish games, or indeed 28-ish mm I've played.

We played the smallest version of the game, 150 points / $500. What does that translate to? Well, a boss character (leader or sidekick) runs at anywhere from half to most of that, a free agent (mercenaries) similar, and henchmen anywhere from 10-40.

I decided to go Law. The game is about victory points and objectives, which ivy can't really do at low values as her plants are static, so would need something mobile to compensate. Batman is too pricey, so law it was.

Jim gordon is an elite boss for swat, so you can take more than one. Cue 2 swat, Alpha (pricey, big gun) and Echo (cheaper, melee). Swat are tough, but more important quick, so good for covering table. The downside? They cost $ as well as, so no extra gear for me.

To pair with Jim (at setup, you have to split your team in half), I went for the cheapest basic cop in the game, affectionately known as Fat Cop, basic guy with a baton.

We were up against Two Face, an expensive and heavy hitting boss, with two of his crew, a fast loony with an axe and a gun toting goon. Having fewer models is not necessarily a disadvantage as activation alternates - so you can pass, giving you a measure of control.

On to setup. This is a game of busy urban boards; we decided to centre on Crazy Eddie's Junkyard, and with our random furniture giving us each a lamppost and 2 sewer tokens, it started to come together. It's always night in Gotham - you can only see 30cm unless something is within 10 cm of a lamppost - and you can move freely between sewer tokens.

3 objectives each - Ammo and Titan (stat boost) for both of us, Loot in the centre from my opponent and from me a couple of Riddles down (they're 2 for 1) - crazy Eddie's dirty secrets and stash! You can use any but only your opponent's are with points (usually). We were keen to see if the game felt sufficiently cinematic, and for scenario we got Patrol - opposite corners, a vp for first hit, 3 for ending in the opponent's deployment. Time to play this!



Turn 1
Action economy is key to this game. You have a number of actions equal to your willpower - 5 on average - to distribute between move, Attack, defence and special. You can move 10cm but move counters give you d6 extra (or can be used to manipulate objects and objectives) , Attack counters let you attack (2 to use a range attack, at full rate of fire unless you moved) , defence let you block in melee. And special? Well, used for some abilities and things like opening sewers or running (double base move) are 1 move + 1 special.

A slow start though. Swat start to take position, cops head into the yard. Two Face crew split and spread out.




Turn 2
In any turn, you don't know who's going first - there's an equal number of tokens in a bag and when it's yours, you choose. We realised that in a 6 turn game (as scenario dictated) our board was a bit too wide. Cue more moving, but close enough for me to score a Vp from my opponent's loot.


Turn 3
I get to go first, and immediately go for the riddle with Gordon. His Detective trait gives me +1 on attempts to solve riddle objectives (d6, on a 1 you lose a vp) - natural 6, it's worth 3VP! Ultimately (spoilers!) this is what wins me the game. Detective is amazing, because it also allows you to negate a pass, which in a large crew is key. Gordon totally worth it.
This is also where things start getting messy. We're up close and personal - but not close enough. Getting used to judging cm, not inch, distances is tricky! We both fail marvelously to shoot one another. His goon catches my swat guy though, diving from the rooftop but blocked by his body armour - still a vp. Next turn is going to be messy. Another vp to me for holding the bag! The axe goon, meanwhile, goes after the other riddle and rolls a 1, losing the vp.



Turn 4
Full auto, opening fire on the goon, for 3 hits. 2+ wound.

Serves me right for using my owl dice. That's 3 1s right there.

Two Face moves up by the building, back up for his goon who dives in with the axe - and misses the cop, who I've loaded up with defence tokens.

Other swat guy goes for a sprint. Dives down the sewer - Rolls enough move!

Turn 5
I lose the draw. My swat guy gets shot and suffers for it. RUN AWAY! Totally throw Two Face by popping out of the sewer next to him, try to batter him but he's tough! Gordon goes for a shot and misses, but swat's not in the way so no chance of hitting him at least. Still Two Face is forced to punch him, not shoot Gordon.


Turn 6
Two Face heads off - leader death is 6Vp, and he's not taking the chance. Gordon pops one off at the axe guy. Not enough to finish him though. Uses his take cover! special to add an extra defence token over the cop's defence 3 to 4, enough to save him, however. And then a Hail Mary pass - melee swat sprints for the enemy end zone, but rolling 5 cm extra move only left me just short. However, my opponent agreed that he didn't see it coming and it was a gutsy move.


Overall - a complex, but not over complicated game. Once we had our heads round rolling equal or over, we got into the swing of it. Half an hour setup, including designing our board for the fun of it. Just over 2 hours to play, and with yes quick reference sheets handy surprisingly little checking of books. Very impressive, love it.

May have got Nightwing to beef up the good guys


Also...
Doggy!


Once the listings are up, do please bid for the excellent cause that is little heroes for little heroes - Heart conditions such as my wee boy's a very common in Downs kids, so please help of you can. And hey, there's a full pro painted Two Face crew going up, plus a glow in the dark Mr Freeze, Arkham Deathstroke, oh and this wee dog, and lots more to come!

http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/little-heroes-charity-fundraiser-is-now.html?m=1

Thanks for listening to all that nonsense!
Graven

Interesting Batrep, if you were to compare it to any other game you've played what would be the closest?

Also Doggy!

Sounds like a fun game! I think I'd probably agree with your assessment that it is one of the best games out there, especially in how close it 'fits' the theme. Mechanically it's also very smooth, I think I stopped needing the rulebook (beyond the odd check) after about 4 games.

Dog looks great, hopefully he raises a bit for the cause!

Knightley wrote:Interesting Batrep, if you were to compare it to any other game you've played what would be the closest?

Also Doggy!

The dice/action economy is reminiscent of Saga, which may explain why I like it. The mechanics are similar to Helldorado for trait insanity. And as skirmishy fun, it's really necromunda/=][=munda.

Paradigm wrote:Sounds like a fun game! I think I'd probably agree with your assessment that it is one of the best games out there, especially in how close it 'fits' the theme. Mechanically it's also very smooth, I think I stopped needing the rulebook (beyond the odd check) after about 4 games.

Dog looks great, hopefully he raises a bit for the cause!

Thanks! I need better pics. New light box setup not quite there yet. Yeah, by turn 5 we were away from the book

Nice "Bat"rep you put on there graven! The game looks like a real ball. Thanks for posting the link to such a good cause as well.

Holy Batrep Batfans! it really is a great game. But you are looking at at least £10 a model realistically, which is steep.
Didn't stop me picking up Nightwing (ultimately, to run with Birds of Prey) and Firefly (mobility for Ivy crew) today.

Potentially odd question - do you think that the above would make sense to non-gamer comic fans?

Huh, as I read the above I was about to ask the same question! I kind of want to run the Birds as a) I'll end up with them all anyway from Bat/Arrow crews, b) I love all-hero teams and c) they're awesome, but the fact they cap at 200 rep means you kind of need cops. But if you could throw in Nightwing and/or Robin and have it make sense then cool!

Ooh, at 350 you can fit Nightwing, AC Robin and the BoP! That That could be awesome!

Hmmm, Arkham 40K?

When your entire 'army' is 3-5 models, 10 Pounds/15 USD is absolutely reasonable, to me.

That looks awesome. I'll have to read the Batrep when not on my phone though.

Please stop teasing me with other games , I'm really upset that I didn't hop on the miniaturemarket deal of the day a week or so ago when they had the rule lol for $35.

Paradigm wrote:Huh, as I read the above I was about to ask the same question! I kind of want to run the Birds as a) I'll end up with them all anyway from Bat/Arrow crews, b) I love all-hero teams and c) they're awesome, but the fact they cap at 200 rep means you kind of need cops. But if you could throw in Nightwing and/or Robin and have it make sense then cool!

Ooh, at 350 you can fit Nightwing, AC Robin and the BoP! That That could be awesome!

I know, and my flgs has AK Robin

shasolenzabi wrote:Hmmm, Arkham 40K?

Yeah, aesthetics of deco-skull

Briancj wrote:When your entire 'army' is 3-5 models, 10 Pounds/15 USD is absolutely reasonable, to me.

Good man, thanks for justifying me

Theophony wrote:That looks awesome. I'll have to read the Batrep when not on my phone though.

Please stop teasing me with other games , I'm really upset that I didn't hop on the miniaturemarket deal of the day a week or so ago when they had the rule lol for $35.

DO IT! DO IT NOW!

Anyway, need me some more buildings. On with the cryo-vault!



Windows blocked up with excess blister packaging. Deadzone ladders (the gift that just keeps giving...) Roof is a beer slops tray (I think) and a kids' smoothie lid. Obviously, it will be getting covered in Ivy

Cheers,
graven

That should look great when done!

If you can stand the AK Robin model, just get that and print the AC card. I did that the other way round as I'm not a fan of the new model (2 Bo staffs is impractical even by superhero standards!).

@Theo: if you want to get a feel for the game, you can still find a legal PDF of the last edition rulebook. The only difference between that and the new one are a couple of objective changes and few translation mistakes, but it'll be enough for you to decide if it's your style.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.knightmodels.com/media/shop/files/RULEBOOKFINALE.pdf&ved=0CB8QFjAAahUKEwin0LuG2trHAhWHvRoKHfCIDkA&usg=AFQjCNFCkIjKq0fAsrgk5NN9qh5TPfnzUg&sig2=-N-tUghSwYIUqMBnjScueQ

Oh hey I have like 50 of those smoothie lids saved up in a baggie for future use. Lately I started cutting off the little pip they sit on as well for chimneys