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I have one already built. It's 1/35 scale you might want to modify it to your needs. I absolutely hated the tracks and the guns.





Try looking into these for something out of the ordinary

https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/emhar-172-british-mkiv-tadpole/

https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/emhar-135-mk-1a-whippet-wwi/

I have that one, but did you know that the new Tamiya one has motorized tracks?

Looks like your conversion could funktion perfectly as a"Spartan". The fw interpretation looks like a Land Raider on steroids without anything defining, the original was just a kitbash in the worst sense, a heap of bashed kits. Considering the size, should be no problem at all to carry 30 termies with this beauty. Also, rivets!

I admit my attention had wandered, but the Mk IV's have brought me back!. Very nice! Looks like it would be a great match for the turret from the most recent Ramshackle games "battle dog" MBT.

It's might be a bit oversized for the Ramshackle tank, which is just a bit bigger than a Leman Russ, but it would probably look perfect on top of the Mark IV.
Ramshackle sells all it's parts separately. The turret with 5 weapon options is only 7GBP shipped!
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_26&products_id=491

Sammoth wrote:I have one already built. It's 1/35 scale you might want to modify it to your needs. I absolutely hated the tracks and the guns.





Try looking into these for something out of the ordinary

https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/emhar-172-british-mkiv-tadpole/

https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/emhar-135-mk-1a-whippet-wwi/

Are you offering me that MK-IV? and yes, I eyed the Tadpole and Whippet as well, but the MK-IV and Tadpole made the best candidates for an large platoon carrying APC for my IG in Apocalypse and other games! As for an offer, PM me and we can discuss arrangements.

Jehan-reznor wrote:I have that one, but did you know that the new Tamiya one has motorized tracks?

Tamiya and Takom have the more elaborate kits, but as I am doing a first time with the Emhar kits, I did not wish to mess up a 60-70dollar model.

Hruotland wrote:Looks like your conversion could funktion perfectly as a"Spartan". The fw interpretation looks like a Land Raider on steroids without anything defining, the original was just a kitbash in the worst sense, a heap of bashed kits. Considering the size, should be no problem at all to carry 30 termies with this beauty. Also, rivets!

termies take 2 spots for every normal infantry-man. and these are for my IG to cross bad places as some enemies seem to like fighting set-piece, entrenched attrition wars, the Khadrovian doctrines are to stay mobile and break through those lines and disrupt the enemy where the normal vehicles could not get through( I will be writing fluff to accompany all of the trench crosser APC's)

Eilif wrote:I admit my attention had wandered, but the Mk IV's have brought me back!. Very nice! Looks like it would be a great match for the turret from the most recent Ramshackle games "battle dog" MBT.

It's might be a bit oversized for the Ramshackle tank, which is just a bit bigger than a Leman Russ, but it would probably look perfect on top of the Mark IV.
Ramshackle sells all it's parts separately. The turret with 5 weapon options is only 7GBP shipped!
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_26&products_id=491

Thanks! I will have to wait a bit to order such. I also scratch build turrets as seen earlier in the thread. I just need to find weapons to put in them, LOL. I love the ideas, keep 'em flowing!

 shasolenzabi wrote:

Sammoth wrote:I have one already built. It's 1/35 scale you might want to modify it to your needs. I absolutely hated the tracks and the guns.





Try looking into these for something out of the ordinary

https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/emhar-172-british-mkiv-tadpole/

https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/emhar-135-mk-1a-whippet-wwi/

Are you offering me that MK-IV? and yes, I eyed the Tadpole and Whippet as well, but the MK-IV and Tadpole made the best candidates for an large platoon carrying APC for my IG in Apocalypse and other games! As for an offer, PM me and we can discuss arrangements.

Jehan-reznor wrote:I have that one, but did you know that the new Tamiya one has motorized tracks?

Tamiya and Takom have the more elaborate kits, but as I am doing a first time with the Emhar kits, I did not wish to mess up a 60-70dollar model.

Hruotland wrote:Looks like your conversion could funktion perfectly as a"Spartan". The fw interpretation looks like a Land Raider on steroids without anything defining, the original was just a kitbash in the worst sense, a heap of bashed kits. Considering the size, should be no problem at all to carry 30 termies with this beauty. Also, rivets!

termies take 2 spots for every normal infantry-man. and these are for my IG to cross bad places as some enemies seem to like fighting set-piece, entrenched attrition wars, the Khadrovian doctrines are to stay mobile and break through those lines and disrupt the enemy where the normal vehicles could not get through( I will be writing fluff to accompany all of the trench crosser APC's)

Eilif wrote:I admit my attention had wandered, but the Mk IV's have brought me back!. Very nice! Looks like it would be a great match for the turret from the most recent Ramshackle games "battle dog" MBT.

It's might be a bit oversized for the Ramshackle tank, which is just a bit bigger than a Leman Russ, but it would probably look perfect on top of the Mark IV.
Ramshackle sells all it's parts separately. The turret with 5 weapon options is only 7GBP shipped!
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_26&products_id=491

Thanks! I will have to wait a bit to order such. I also scratch build turrets as seen earlier in the thread. I just need to find weapons to put in them, LOL. I love the ideas, keep 'em flowing!

HAHA no it's one of my favorite tank builds. I still haven't added the trench bar yet.

 Sammoth wrote:


HAHA no it's one of my favorite tank builds. I still haven't added the trench bar yet.

It was the way you spoke of it, LOL. the guns took patience yes, and the tracks made from vinyl I super glued slowly and patiently as they were needing such to shape them to the kit.

I have to do measurements now for the upper structure armor segment which will hold the turret.

 shasolenzabi wrote:
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Eilif wrote:I admit my attention had wandered, but the Mk IV's have brought me back!. Very nice! Looks like it would be a great match for the turret from the most recent Ramshackle games "battle dog" MBT.

Spoiler:

It's might be a bit oversized for the Ramshackle tank, which is just a bit bigger than a Leman Russ, but it would probably look perfect on top of the Mark IV.
Ramshackle sells all it's parts separately. The turret with 5 weapon options is only 7GBP shipped!
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_26&products_id=491

Thanks! I will have to wait a bit to order such. I also scratch build turrets as seen earlier in the thread. I just need to find weapons to put in them, LOL. I love the ideas, keep 'em flowing!

He sells separate weapons too…
You can buy the barrels separately from the turret or a whole range of other weapons from various kits.
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=25_36

Cool!

Progress on engine area
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That was a lot, but the ramp area was quicker!
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working now on the upper area structure the turret is to be mounted on.
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Oooh! Interesting, do continue!

 Meph wrote:
Oooh! Interesting, do continue!

I will be, just needed sleep, and I can work on the upper structure more, I found my leftover Puppets' War bits, so a turret and turret ring are handled, now to make or buy turrets worthy of these monsters!

Sorry for the long departure, will hopefully have more time next week, but this tank is looking great for conversions. If it were a gw kit it would be half the size and the transport capacity would be 10 contemptors who could all fire out ports if it didn't move, but couldn't assault out of it if the emperor said to .

@ Theo: no problem, Real Life has many all busy lately.

So, the upper decks need to hold a glued on resin turret ring section, so I added reinforcement supports. They will be trimmed based on the last plasticard deck to go into this one, I have some other small details to fix, and need to design a turret for the weapons I will use.
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With the support deck fitted in, I know some putty work is likely to happen next for this ramshackle looking support structure
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So, I have to see what others think works for the cool factor for the Turret and how it is placed

front placed allows it to fire down more easily to the front and one side, not as much rear and the other side, but pretty fair maybe? different vision blocks are set to left and right in this configuration
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set to the left still has forwards and left side as the better low angles, rear possible depression as well, just harder for covering the right of the tank. It also allows the interesting vision section offset to the right, and the other to the rear.
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Offset to the right is opposite issues from offset left, more armored looking vision port is forward.
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Finally the hanging back turret ring placement, would allow it to swing the weapons to the rear and sides more than in front, front would have more limited depression angle for the guns. But would allow wrap around front/side left, and armored port to the right.
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Please let me know your thoughts on this matter.

All looking brilliant buddy, I would favour left, as the driver will be on the right.

Really nice kit, very inspirational.

Personally I'd be tempted with one as I really like the low sinister assault transport vibe

Offset to the side seems to make sense with the view port looking forward (looking to one side seems a bit odd).

Also, with a turret on top of all that, it shouldn't have much issue with seeing in all directions wherever it is placed, so a little asymmetry will make for an interesting look to the whole tank.

Cam votes left....Although as being the Khadrovians, driver is set to the left.

Llamahead votes forwards


Dr.H has voted for left or right side? the picked for view port, which one? the bunker style set in the over hang? or the armored like one that the offset right would give?

I did not realise there were two. Either is good.

 Dr H wrote:
I did not realise there were two. Either is good.

Okay, so either way, offset side is appealing to 2 vs 1 for forwards. Now to see what others think as I am seeking a majority here.

I vote for leaving this casematte away entirely. You have built one, Why top it with another one? Second, none of these positioning pics has spoken tome.Third,In order to decide where to placethe turret, you should place the turret, I don't think you can judge the look by just looking at it's understructure.

No,I definitely vote for "leave that piece away".

Late to comment, but following!

When you said you were going big, you certainly meant it!

As for placing, I'd favour the asymmetrical lay out too, off-setted opposite to the driver's side (main turret on the right in this case, if I read right).

But I liked Hruotland's suggestion, maybe the double deckered under-turret might be too much; I'd wait to have the actual turret for a final placement decision, and then maybe just on your lower structure.

"It has a wonderful view of the gardens here, we simply must put a bay window here...."
"Non, I insist it must be French doors in order to get a full view of the vineyard we will put in the garden...."
"Well, frankly I don't care about the view, but we do have to do something about this drab grey, I think a paisley wallpaper would be just the thing...and would offset my oh-so-chic camo wear wonderfully...."


Nice work on the tank so far. The tracks are a pain on those Emhar kits, but they are great for conversion work. Engine block fits perfectly in there, brilliant.

I'm favouring the offset right placement with the armoured vision slit forward so far, but would like to see how it sits with a turret in place.....

If you are going to use the extra turret ring, which looks good admittedly. I'll vote left

 Littletower wrote:

But I liked Hruotland's suggestion, maybe the double deckered under-turret might be too much; I'd wait to have the actual turret for a final placement decision, and then maybe just on your lower structure.

However I agree with the above.

I'ves seen that turret ring before, can't remember where, care to put my out of my misery ?

Well, there were a LOT of lessons I learned with the making of this machine, so unit 2 will have a lower sub-support structure. I did go for the offset right and planted the thing, it is quite high, but surprise is not one of the goals of the MTHR-B-50.

For images as I did apply the putty to work gaps out, I have a vision for the turret set in my head, based on the drawings I added to the MK-IV museum pieces pics.


Monkeytroll, loved the comedic dialogue. I do like making bitz fit the machines I make.

OMN, Thank you, I did go offset right. The turret ring/viewports came with the Puppet's War "Bricks" I ordered and made a while back, (Just have to finish paint and decals and then weather them a bit.)

But so many liked the offset turret, so here is how it winds up so far(Plasticard turret with spare cupola and weapons will be the last part, I still have minor parts to armor lower down.)
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I saw this picture in particular and wondered if the Khardovians(spelling check later) had unearthed the lost STC for superheavy coffee supply vehicle. Must keep the troops alert and energetic for battle.

Almost looks like the figure is having a cup while the tank is moving .

I still have to catch up on reading, just got a chance to look at pics really quick. Nice find and great execution so far.

I will have to shave the new turret down some, it is rather a tallish things by itself.


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2nd unit is under construction, so 2 x MK-IV based platoon-rides to be seen and included in my parade of strength when I am ready to shoot it!
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Well, for the model A of the MTHR-B 50A I went Twinlinked Las-cannon
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Then, a British WW-II style internal mantlet
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This in turn reminded me of a "Black Prince" style turret as in Matilda BP and such.
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Napoleon-X felt it needed to be trimmed down some as too tall at chest height! one shot was blurry but gave an idea as to how high it was!
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Next to Model-B, which will have a lowered support for the turret ring so as to avoid the height issues as much.
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Like what you did with the engine compartment and the assault ramp, but i am not a big fan of the added copula.

I see the MK's more as Pre landraider versions.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Like what you did with the engine compartment and the assault ramp, but i am not a big fan of the added copula.

I see the MK's more as Pre landraider versions.

Well, I have a lowered thickness for the turret ring support platform. I am debating cutting down the one already made on the 1st unit. Everything is an experiment.

Now that you placed the cupola I am stronglier than ever of the opinion only to use the casematte you built as an understructure by yourself and leave that smaller, upper one (or as you call it, the turret ring) away. I think it just gives the effect of a tight choke ring, somewhat eerie or unfitting, like the strange appearance of Padaung women.

That tank really is monstrous! I'd like to see it compared to a Baneblade. Looking forward to the further process.