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These are expected to come out on December the 1st, hopefully the site will also be running by then!

http://www.battlegrouphelios.com

I like it, would fit well in the Battle fleet Gothic universe as a cruiser or battleship depending on its size. With some tweeks could probably fit in Firestorm armada as well.

They look like potential cruiser stand-ins to me!

Are these resin or plastic?

bLooks like a cease and desist waiting to happen lol

Looks spiffy, now hit me up with the price!

Those look awesome, i needs the precioucz!

 BrookM wrote:
Are these resin or plastic?

They look like resin.

Also:



As for GW legal, sod 'em. GW didn't want money from BFG players any more, they don't get to piss and moan when someone steps in to fill the niche they abandoned - there are differences in the design, and you could easily argue that any commonalities are inevitable; GW don't own "space ship with gothic architecture aesthetic", they own the specific designs of Imperial Navy ships that they produced.

chaos0xomega wrote:
bLooks like a cease and desist waiting to happen lol

Hardly.

Those look fantastic, by the way!

It looks good. I like how they've gone with a wedge-shaped profile with the stepped weapons batteries.

I assume you also saw this WIP:


http://www.resinaddict.com/blog/2014/11/wip-helian-frigate-6/

This has definitely grabbed my attention after trying to trawl eBay for gothic bits and bobs

Buy 'em quickly.

Is there a game to go along with this - or are they 'just' for BFG use?

Only the other day I was looking for BFG stand-ins. These should be perfect!

Impressive. I quite like them.

 Yodhrin wrote:


As for GW legal, sod 'em. GW didn't want money from BFG players any more, they don't get to piss and moan when someone steps in to fill the niche they abandoned - there are differences in the design, and you could easily argue that any commonalities are inevitable; GW don't own "space ship with gothic architecture aesthetic", they own the specific designs of Imperial Navy ships that they produced.

The imperial ships in BFG had a pretty unique aesthetic which these are pretty blatantly and obviously taking from. Moreover the way this kit is designed is identical to the manner in which BFG Imperial Cruisers were constructed. Neither of these things are inevitable, and GW has IP rights to more than just the specific designs of the ships they produced. I'm not going to get into an argument over the finer points of IP law with an anon on the internet but suffice it to say that these guys are treading dangerous water.

Pshh, I doubt GW will fancy risking more legal shenanigans this soon after the close of the Chapterhouse Studios case! Besides, the design, while similar to BFG still seems pretty generic sci fi to me.

Looks very cool, are these designed / created by you Malika? I am impressed!

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:


As for GW legal, sod 'em. GW didn't want money from BFG players any more, they don't get to piss and moan when someone steps in to fill the niche they abandoned - there are differences in the design, and you could easily argue that any commonalities are inevitable; GW don't own "space ship with gothic architecture aesthetic", they own the specific designs of Imperial Navy ships that they produced.

The imperial ships in BFG had a pretty unique aesthetic which these are pretty blatantly and obviously taking from. Moreover the way this kit is designed is identical to the manner in which BFG Imperial Cruisers were constructed. Neither of these things are inevitable, and GW has IP rights to more than just the specific designs of the ships they produced. I'm not going to get into an argument over the finer points of IP law with an anon on the internet but suffice it to say that these guys are treading dangerous water.

GrimDarkBits has been able to sell his BFG-like designs just fine for quite a while now. I doubt GW would really have any strong grounds to step in here.

But please, lets not turn this thread into a debate on GW's IP policies and such. Perhaps there could be another more general thread about that elsewhere?

Niccce.

And hand-sculpted too? Or is that WIP a prototype print or something?

These look fantastic!

Congratulations on getting these cast! I've been following your blog in the p&m section for a while now and was wondering what was taking you so long

Care to run us through what is in each kit? and what you will have available?

Makes me think I should really get my own site up and running.

The cruisers are digitally sculpted and 3d printed. The escort is CNC'ed and sculpted, so more 'analog'.

If the price isn't too bad, I will be all over this like short on a dachshund.

Very interested.

I always boggles me why other manufacturers, like Spartan, don't adopt GW's brilliant modular weapon batteries. It's such an easy way to have one model make a dozen different classes.

 Malika2 wrote:


But please, lets not turn this thread into a debate on GW's IP policies and such. Perhaps there could be another more general thread about that elsewhere?

That's a great idea!

If someone wants to open up a thread about that - maybe in Dakka Discussions?

Otherwise - on topic in here please.

Thanks!

Awesome! Very excited to see these bad boys!

Any plans for more... less orderly and mean ships?

Very nice. And, surprisingly, appear to be made by the same person that made the Voss prow bits and frigates I purchased not long ago.

As much as I love my BFG ships, I think the prow designs on these are quite a bit better. If they are not too pricey, I would definitely get them.

I asked Mangozac about the price, this is what he had to say:

I just recently completed costing so guess it doesn't hurt to tell you guys ahead of time. The Dreadnought and Firedrake kits will be AU$36.00 each. That price includes a pair of each of the three weapons module types, plus extra turrets for the hull mounting points.

So it's little bit less than €25 ($31) for a complete cruiser with additional weapon modules and turrets. That's quite decent for something that's not produced in China!