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Dropped this in the BA thread but thought it was worthy of its own thread as it effects all armies if true.

Via Lords of War Gaming

So for those of you that pay attention to the release list for upcoming product you may have noticed that 32mm bases are on the list for next week.
If you are wondering what they were for take a good hard look at the Death company in the picture and compare to the genestealers and behold the future!
Get ready to get your (re)base on. To reiterate ALL MODELS on 25mm bases will eventually transition to the new 32mm bases.

They have reiterated in the comments of the post they made that there source has said all infantry will on 25mm bases will switch to 32mm bases, not just bulky models.

It makes some sense to have bulky models on a larger base.

I'm not buying ALL models changed to 32mm, and I mean that literaly as well as figuratively as well. Who in their right mind would want to rebase an entire collection from 25 to 32mm ?

That's a very questionable thing.

IF it were for "all infantry", then Genestealers would have been on the 32mm bases as well.

This is baseless, pants-on-head slowed scaremongering and Lords of War Gaming should be ashamed of themselves to post something to stupid.

Jump Pack models might start coming on 32mms to bring them in line with some other Jump Pack models that come on small flying bases. That is all.

I think it should be based on the unit / model .. keep some small things on 25's and increase them a tad for bulkier stuff. I always hate it when the tips of space marine and necron feets stick out over the edges.

Screw 'em. My Tzeentch Daemons all have heavily converted scenic bases. There is no fething way I'm going to rip those bases apart, which include some green stuff sculpting and a heaping amount of various bitz and re-do everything onto slightly larger bases.
Not to mention that things like Pink Horrors are pretty much impossible to break off their bases without bending/breaking their rather scrawny little legs...

Not to mention, so goodly number of infantry models would look completely lost on the new bases, such as IG, most Eldar, Fire Warriors, etc... They'd just look silly, kinda like how Ungors looked stupid back in 6th edition when GW upgraded them to the 25mm bases during the whole 'combined herd' experiment with the Beastmen army book. (and then dropped it in the 7th ed book and forced Ungors back onto their proper 20mm bases! )

 Necros wrote:
I think it should be based on the unit / model .. keep some small things on 25's and increase them a tad for bulkier stuff. I always hate it when the tips of space marine and necron feets stick out over the edges.

Agreed. Started putting together my first necrons last week and what pain to get those wide legs on the base properly!

It makes no sense that if they were changing everything from 25mm to 32mm, that they wouldn't have done it for ALL of the models in the box set. This is just click-bait stuff.

I am, however, more likely to prescribe to the "32mm for bulky units" idea. But I guess posting that wouldn't have drawn as many views. Going the 'ol terrorizing media route, eh LOW?

It makes sense from a manufacturing point of view to add the 32mm bases to new kits as they are released
(or in new production runs), otherwise you are double handling products and adding more cost to it (manufacturing wise) if you go back to old kits, open them up and switch out the bases.

I'm interested to see how this pans out, hopefully the releases for BA after the Box set will reveal more.

Again, as long as it's never said you have to rebase all your current models, I'm absolutely cool with this and in fact, I welcome it. Larger bases is a god-emperor's send to some models and it means there's more space to "pimp my base".

But please, nothing has been confirmed, so let's keep our pitchforks and torches stored for the time being, ok?

 manrogue wrote:
It makes sense from a manufacturing point of view to add the 32mm bases to new kits as they are released
(or in new production runs), otherwise you are double handling products and adding more cost to it (manufacturing wise) if you go back to old kits, open them up and switch out the bases.

I'm interested to see how this pans out, hopefully the releases for BA after the Box set will reveal more.

Death Company aren't new.

Also, LoW have a good record for rumours-
Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (12 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE

That not including the fact there are a couple of trues that Pretre hasn't updated yet.

Can't see why they would make this up.

As for the genestealers, it wouldn't make sense to add the new bases in the box set. Why?

Because it would make more sense to switch bases as you update an army in my opinion, reduce the handling costs by running stock down in advance and then switch as you update.

At least then you are reducing the double handling costs by reducing the amount of boxes you have to switch out.

Except the Death Company are on the new 32mm bases in "Deathstorm".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
It makes sense from a manufacturing point of view to add the 32mm bases to new kits as they are released
(or in new production runs), otherwise you are double handling products and adding more cost to it (manufacturing wise) if you go back to old kits, open them up and switch out the bases.

I'm interested to see how this pans out, hopefully the releases for BA after the Box set will reveal more.

Death Company aren't new.

I know, but they are getting re-released with a new codex.....

 manrogue wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
It makes sense from a manufacturing point of view to add the 32mm bases to new kits as they are released
(or in new production runs), otherwise you are double handling products and adding more cost to it (manufacturing wise) if you go back to old kits, open them up and switch out the bases.

I'm interested to see how this pans out, hopefully the releases for BA after the Box set will reveal more.

Death Company aren't new.

I know, but they are getting re-released with a new codex.....

Which has no impact on anything.

If GW wanted to start packing 32mm bases in with models, they could easily have started doing so. It is not unheard of for them to repackage models as well even when they are not getting a release.

It would be a way to screw over loads of 3rd party manufacturers though as I don't think anybody else makes 32mm round specifically (30mm bevelled but not 32mm round).....

Maybe it's for marines only?

After all they have literally just sold alien kits with 25mm bases...

I don't think this rumour is 100% accurate.

Lol, fair enough, we will see soon enough.

32mm would require the purchase of Games Workshop bases. Makes good business sense.

StraightSilver wrote:It would be a way to screw over loads of 3rd party manufacturers though as I don't think anybody else makes 32mm round specifically (30mm bevelled but not 32mm round).....

scarletsquig wrote:32mm would require the purchase of Games Workshop bases. Makes good business sense.

Not as much screwing them over as helping their sales.
Sure GW is the only manufacturers of 32mm right now but how long until 3rd party manufacturers add another base size to their already sizable catalog.

How long did it take for 3rd party manufacturers to start selling 40k bike bases, or the big oval flyerbases? Not like GW has a monopoly on those sizes anymore.

Zywus wrote:

StraightSilver wrote:It would be a way to screw over loads of 3rd party manufacturers though as I don't think anybody else makes 32mm round specifically (30mm bevelled but not 32mm round).....

scarletsquig wrote:32mm would require the purchase of Games Workshop bases. Makes good business sense.

Not as much screwing them over as helping their sales.
Sure GW is the only manufacturers of 32mm right now but how long until 3rd party manufacturers add another base size to their already sizable catalog.

How long did it take for 3rd party manufacturers to start selling 40k bike bases, or the big oval flyerbases? Not like GW has a monopoly on those sizes anymore.

The only problem with that is many of the 3rd party guys have loads of bases to catch up to this size, and some don't have the same sculptors to do the jobs, or they will still look out of place in the line. It's just another way to make an expense for your competition, and sideline them for a short time. Then again it makes companies like the ones that made the basius pads be in that much better if a situation as they only need to sell you more green stuff.

Zywus wrote:

StraightSilver wrote:It would be a way to screw over loads of 3rd party manufacturers though as I don't think anybody else makes 32mm round specifically (30mm bevelled but not 32mm round).....

scarletsquig wrote:32mm would require the purchase of Games Workshop bases. Makes good business sense.

Not as much screwing them over as helping their sales.
Sure GW is the only manufacturers of 32mm right now but how long until 3rd party manufacturers add another base size to their already sizable catalog.

How long did it take for 3rd party manufacturers to start selling 40k bike bases, or the big oval flyerbases? Not like GW has a monopoly on those sizes anymore.

Right, GW switching to 32mm as a way to punish 3rd party bitz makers would be incredibly short-sighted. They would be, in effect, punishing their customers by encouraging them to buy product with barely any value (yes, I know some models could use those 32mm bases, but for a lot it's redundant). That, coupled with the fact that it would't take 3rd party bitz makers long to just tweak their base sizes, AND the broken-nose GW suffered during the CHS case, and I can't see this as something even within the scope of crazy ol' GW.

The only other motivation I can think of to include more 32mm bases would be GW pushing the game even farther from standardization, allowing units to pick bases of different sizes depending on their size and thereby further diluting the concept of "competitive 40k" (I can only imagine the tactics conversations to go on "make sure to put your sergeants on 32mm bases, etc." ). But this notion sounds farfetched and absurd, so I'm just going to go with the thought that LOW got some wires crossed on this rumor.

If it's true, I guess I'll be left scratching my head.

If this is true, it looks like it could be an expensive transition for the buyer. :/

 Theophony wrote:

Zywus wrote:

StraightSilver wrote:It would be a way to screw over loads of 3rd party manufacturers though as I don't think anybody else makes 32mm round specifically (30mm bevelled but not 32mm round).....

scarletsquig wrote:32mm would require the purchase of Games Workshop bases. Makes good business sense.

Not as much screwing them over as helping their sales.
Sure GW is the only manufacturers of 32mm right now but how long until 3rd party manufacturers add another base size to their already sizable catalog.

How long did it take for 3rd party manufacturers to start selling 40k bike bases, or the big oval flyerbases? Not like GW has a monopoly on those sizes anymore.

The only problem with that is many of the 3rd party guys have loads of bases to catch up to this size, and some don't have the same sculptors to do the jobs, or they will still look out of place in the line. It's just another way to make an expense for your competition, and sideline them for a short time. Then again it makes companies like the ones that made the basius pads be in that much better if a situation as they only need to sell you more green stuff.

Sure it's some work for the 3rd party guys. But I can't imagine it being much more than a minor hassle to create another base size as long as they have access to at least one sculptor, as the design is already done on the other sizes and it's just a matter of copying over that style.

If anything, GW has widened the market for the 3rd party companies.

It makes no sense, GW is pushing for bigger games all the time, making cheap infantry models take up more space on the table is completely counterproductive.

I would suggest everyone cools Thier booties.

I doubt it'll be for every infantry unit. Just be Patiant mon frere!


Edit: if they wanted us to rebase every unit, don't you think that they would have changed the base sizes on the genestealers too?


Perhaps death company are multi wounded and are represented by bigger bases??


Perhaps they wheigh 5 kg each and need bigger bases to support their fat butts?


Who knowsssss

You mean I have to re-base all my grots? o.O

 Breotan wrote:
You mean I have to re-base all my grots? o.O

Unfortunally yes. While all infantry in general will be required by law to be transferred to 32mm bases, Grots in particular will be required to use the old gorkamorka peanut bases.

It's almost no work for 3rd parties - just cut 8mm off the 40mm bases.

My concern is GW is going to try and claim ownership of 32mm bases and try to throw their weight around. I can't see it holding up to scrutiny but nothing else they do, does.

Also still nothing stopping companies doing 31/33mm bases that are actually 32mm diameter; I've already got 31/32mm bases I used for Malifaux (sold as 30mm but presumably with some shrinkage overcompensated for in the resin).

Zywus wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
You mean I have to re-base all my grots? o.O

Unfortunally yes. While all infantry in general will be required by law to be transferred to 32mm bases, Grots in particular will be required to use the old gorkamorka peanut bases.

No.

NO!