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Uhh... I hate it that I get to be the one that brings this rumour around but...


I have heard from a friend that he was told direct by a wholesaling group that FineCost is deader than dead. All remaining stock is being sold, and after that it is gonesky.

I have no way of verifying this (other than to say my friend would not lie about this), so there we go. Make of it what you will. We've heard this before, but maybe this time it's true.

TIME TO PANIC BUY!

Interesting. I wonder if this will coincide with the rumored change to WHFB range, it being dramatically reduced (i.e. removal of everything Finecast)

Finecast has maintained a very poor reputation even after attempts to improve the material. I'm not that surprised that GW is finally deciding to get rid of it all together.

Eh, doen't surprise me. If true might be why Eldar, Tau and Marines were said to be getting releases this year, all have Finecast that needs updating.

They just reboxed the Thunderfire cannon. Not sure why they would've done that if they were planning on discontinuing the medium the model is made in....



Unless it comes out in plastic as the same sculpt....

But characters did not get released in plastic other than huge model ones in fantasy.

Back to metal for characters/one-offs?

 Alpharius wrote:
Back to metal for characters/one-offs?

I hate metal, and yet I'd adore a change back to it. FineCost really is that bad.

Of course, the change from metal to FineCost and back to metal again means probably 200% the cost of when it was first metal.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Eh, doen't surprise me. If true might be why Eldar, Tau and Marines were said to be getting releases this year, all have Finecast that needs updating.

That is a good point. But can they do all the Aspect Warrior in plas... wait... no... they're just going to cut them.

I guess we have another instance of "be careful what you wish for".

"For many Eldar, there comes a time when their path leads them to pursue one of the many exclusive, limited edition, Aspects of Khaine, the God Of War....

So, d'ya reckon they could do a combined Banshee/Fire Dragon/Scorpion box and a combined Reaper/Warp Spider box and then... a separate Hawk box?


And yes, I realise that I am derailing my own thread.

Wait ... I thought we heard about this last year?

Or was that just that no new model molds were going to be produced in finecast?

Metals before Finecast? I dunno. I've painted a few and they weren't awful. Better details anyhow. I am no Picasso though.

Most newer non-plastic releases just say resin, no 'Finecast' branding.

For me, Finecast was the worse thing they have ever done - pretty much destroyed their reputation for quality within a month of launch.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Eh, doen't surprise me. If true might be why Eldar, Tau and Marines were said to be getting releases this year, all have Finecast that needs updating.

That is a good point. But can they do all the Aspect Warrior in plas... wait... no... they're just going to cut them.

I guess we have another instance of "be careful what you wish for".

I can't wait to hear the arguments about how it's the customer's fault that these units needed to be cut, or that they weren't that important to the game anyway so GW did us a favor by cutting them.

 brendan wrote:
Metals before Finecast? I dunno. I've painted a few and they weren't awful. Better details anyhow. I am no Picasso though.

The problem is that the QC on finecast is just all over the place. I've have to buy finecast 10 times since it came out. Most of the purches went well.

Except for one. I got a nice new Witch Hunter when it came out with the last empire book. Sadly he was was badly miscast.

So then sent me a new one... That was also miscast.... So then sent me a 2nd replacement, that was also miscast the same way. Everytime their were large gaps and holes missing in the body. Like whole hands, faces, and even the bottom of his coat missing.

3rd try i got a good cast on the body, but all the weapons were badly miscast. Luckily I got perfect weapons on my 1st three kits......

like. 9/10 times working out isn't to bad. But that experience on the 1/10th was a bloody nightmare. If the QC on finecast wasn't so blood terrible even after 2-3 years they would of sorted out the QC by now, but miscast finecast still is a issue that consently plague us after it being years since the release.

Originally, when Finecast made its debut, I was ill about it. Literally ill... I also did panic purchases which included super marked up models at one store in San Luis Obispo ("Oh they're double the price because... um... they're limited edition... yeah... that's it").

Eventually after working with some Finecast pieces I found they weren't all bad. In fact, I probably only had one bad cast out of the stuff I have worked with (it was Sammael of the Ravenwing... lots of missing chunks and warped pieces).

As for Finecast going away, I'm totally not panic purchasing this time around.

Just taking the 9/10 figure at face value.

That's awful.

Imagine if we lived in a world where one in ten iPhones were faulty out of the box, or one in ten new cars wouldn't drive off the forecourt? These are immensely complex machines, what we're talking about is filling a mould with some liquid so there are no bubbles and not taking it out til it's set properly.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Uhh... I hate it that I get to be the one that brings this rumour around but...


I have heard from a friend that he was told direct by a wholesaling group that FineCost is deader than dead. All remaining stock is being sold, and after that it is gonesky.

I have no way of verifying this (other than to say my friend would not lie about this), so there we go. Make of it what you will. We've heard this before, but maybe this time it's true.

TIME TO PANIC BUY!

Concrete admech news breaks and all of a sudden you come up with a rumor that finecast is disappearing forever. I see what you're doing... you're trying to hoard all the Admech that makes it down there for yourself by convincing others to empty their piggy banks on finecast stuff ahead of time!

I actually like finecast, if this is true.. I'll be sad :(

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Eh, doen't surprise me. If true might be why Eldar, Tau and Marines were said to be getting releases this year, all have Finecast that needs updating.

That is a good point. But can they do all the Aspect Warrior in plas... wait... no... they're just going to cut them.

I guess we have another instance of "be careful what you wish for".

1 set of 5 bodies, like 30 head options and only enough options to make one of each of the aspects.

EDIT: Clarity.

That's too bad. I was getting used to the material now too. Recently bought a finecast Kaptin Badrukk and the special ammo runts and their details were top-notch despite the stigma.

So long as this means updated plastic minis that's okay with me I guess.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Eh, doen't surprise me. If true might be why Eldar, Tau and Marines were said to be getting releases this year, all have Finecast that needs updating.

If so, I'd kinda be really happy to see some of my character models get redone. Even if they were posed exactly the same, I'd get the chance to paint 'em again. If they ended up pose-able, I'd be ecstatic. Like pants on head happy.

 Alpharius wrote:
Back to metal for characters/one-offs?

At first this was funny, but then...

 Azreal13 wrote:
Just taking the 9/10 figure at face value.

That's awful.

Imagine if we lived in a world where one in ten iPhones were faulty out of the box, or one in ten new cars wouldn't drive off the forecourt? These are immensely complex machines, what we're talking about is filling a mould with some liquid so there are no bubbles and not taking it out til it's set properly.

I agree completely.

the 1/10 is my own personal experience from buying finecast, and I try to protect myself more from bad casts then others might. inspecting before i buy VERY carefully. so I hope that people don't start throwing the number around to much as anything to concrete. Heck when I see miscast finecast I don't put it back on the rack. I bring it to a FLGS/GW store employees and point out the unacceptable/detail destroying miscasts that shouldn't be no wear near a storefront.


Sadly I'm posative 1/10 is your best case scenario for finecast. I'm sure for some their experiences have been much worse then mine.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
1 set of 5 bodies, like 30 head options and only enough options to make one of each of the aspects.

Don't tempt them Frodo!

Wasn't the rumor last year that Forgeworld would replace Finecast? This could tie in to the plastic HH stuff, as that would also increase demand for Forgeworld product. Maybe GW will be heavily investing in FW's production capabilities this year?

 Norn King wrote:
I actually like finecast, if this is true.. I'll be sad :(

Drill a few holes in some forgeworld stuff, slop on some liquid green stuff to make nice straight edges uneven, and take all your left over sprues from plastic kits and glue them onto the model to simulate the finecast vent count. It'll be like they never stopped making it!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So, d'ya reckon they could do a combined Banshee/Fire Dragon/Scorpion box and a combined Reaper/Warp Spider box and then... a separate Hawk box?


And yes, I realise that I am derailing my own thread.

More like...

"Once there were many warrior aspects but as the Eldar race continues its millenia of decline they have dwindled to near nothingness...

Names like Fiery Angels, Blade Lions, Howling Banshees, Striking Scorpions and Warp Spiders have become mere legends even to the most aged of the Eldar race"

However you may still use your old aspect warriors as Storm Guardians.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
1 set of 5 bodies, like 30 head options and only enough options to make one of each of the aspects.

Don't tempt them Frodo!

A time will come when GW makes great kit options with the intent of giving customers a series of options at a low price.

Today is not that day.


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 warboss wrote:

 Norn King wrote:
I actually like finecast, if this is true.. I'll be sad :(

Drill a few holes in some forgeworld stuff, slop on some liquid green stuff to make nice straight edges uneven, and take all your left over sprues from plastic kits and glue them onto the model to simulate the finecast vent count. It'll be like they never stopped making it!

Tell that to my order of Krieg where the lasguns were curled to the point they were basically hoops. Or my Avenger Strike Fighter I got that was missing the gunner's canopy. Just because FW makes it doesn't automatically make it good.

Resin is a material that has a lot of problems. It's fragile, it's prone to casting issues, and it can shrink when it cures creating so many gaps it's not funny. Sure Finecast was worse thanks to the filler material they were using and rushing it out the door before knowing how to fully work with the resin.

willb2064 wrote:
Most newer non-plastic releases just say resin, no 'Finecast' branding.

For me, Finecast was the worse thing they have ever done - pretty much destroyed their reputation for quality within a month of launch.

Pretty much, I was under the impression that they're just calling Finecast items "resin" now. If you check out some of the site listings on GW, they say "resin figure" where they previously said "Finecast resin figure".
Combo boxes that contain resin and plastic don't always mention Finecast on them. It seems the F word is being scrubbed.

Manager in a local shop was showing us the "new" resin that is being used. It's uncannily similar, albeit slightly more bendy.

I liked finecast when I first saw it, loved the detail. Then I got my first figure and it was soft and brittle and broke when you looked at it. Not good for a gaming piece.

And then I got a few that had major deformities and I asked myself "what the heck? Is this normal?"

Turned out that it was.