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Just had a annoying experience with an opponent today and though to both share it, and create a thread were others can share their annoying/terrible experiences.

First, the guy that I faces is really a cool guy but is a know it all who can't really accept a bad roll. We had a game with his Empire vs my TK (8th) and after a quite successful chariot charge against his great swords he loses by 2. Then roll 11 on 9ld stubborn (from captain) and preroll is 12. And they end up of the board by quite a lot. For me this was a great moment, I usual lose with my TK and I liked that I had lady luck om my side for once. But he just gave upp. He had lost one big unit but he still had about 2000 points left but was so angry for having that bad luck that he gave upp, and said that I only won because of luck.

It just irks me that we spend about an hour preparing, and then 2 turns before some bad luck makes him surrender and me win because of luck while he still could probably win with all his artillery and knights. And that he claimed that I won by luck just rubs me the wrong way since it makes my victory fell undeserved even though he surrendered.

But that was my most annoying moment, probably not that bad but he does this regulary to his opponents. He can accept a loss but if he ever runs into some bad luck he just seems to give up. But what are your most annyingg experience? Please tell

Eh iv had games where my opponent would be winning (i like counting points throughout the match) but he would complain quite hard that he cant win because xyz. and the second they lose a model they make a fuss.

usually i have to sit there telling them that they are in fact winning.

such salt.

The WORST is when someone is a poor sport. Sorry that happened to you.

It makes me want to stop the game if someone is being a sour puss after losing a few models. I'm not going to play this game with you if you aren't going to have any fun! Lighten up! Shoot back! Make up a fun cinematic narrative for how in the WORLD someone passed 10 saves!

Some of my favorite games include craziness. "That unit of guardsman won a combat against terminators..."
"Did I just roll Yatzee?"
"We totally broke math, you realize this? WE BROKE IT"

"It's just a game, Focker"
~Meet the Parents

Whenever I have had the displeasure of meeting someone whom plays Tau

Our group was playing a friendly 1500 pt tournament, 6 people, i had lost both games before this but had a chance to stay in the tournament due to victory points i gained in the previous matches. My lord of change, Ix'thargan'ix, floated up behind some stealth suits hiding in ruins that were poised to take an objective and put a hurt on my bloodletters before they hit his gunline. I was winning at this point in VP's, and it was looking like I was going to table him.

Psychic phase starts. I cast a few powers that arent very important to attempt to get him to waste his denial dice before my real plan came into action. Afterwards, i throw three warp charge at perfect timing and successfully cast it with no.denial, and immediately follow up with infernal gateway on his stealth suits, hitting and wounding all of them. This is amazing! I thought to myself. I may have just saved my life in this tournament!

Then he proceeds to roll his cover saves, and we proceed to argue for twenty minutes about whether or not perfect timing has any effect in this circumstance. He was so adamant (of course, his stealth suits were all dead if it worked on psychic shooting) that I eventually gave up and let him roll his cover saves. He didnt even offer to at least let me have my 3 completely wasted warp charge back, and when i rolled the power with a pure daemon list with no shooting that isnt psychic he didnt mention that he figured it didnt work on psychic shooting.

Anyways, the cover saves he rolled resulted in two dead stealth suits, and warpflame ended up taking them down to one, single, lone stealth suit. Any witchfire i could have cast with those three warp charge i completely wasted would have had a good chance of killing him. Fast forward a turn and the stealth suit takes an objective in ruins, his gunline kills my bloodletters with crazy dice rolls, plaguebearers fail their charge and the stealth suit gains a second point for that same obbjective as i was forced to use my lord of change to support the plaguebearers in hopes they would make it.

They didnt. I lost. Now i'm filled with bad feelings every time i roll perfect timing.

Not the guy's fault, he's a great guy. I just felt like the whole game was pointless from that moment forward, because i had handicapped myself 3 warp charge in the most crucial moment of the game, when it would have had a hand in ensuring my victory had it worked the way I thought. Furthermore it felt like the ruling in question was up in the air the whole time, and i hate not knowing if that game was played correctly or incorrectly. We had a cash buy-in and prize too, so it sucked double time.

Honestly i wasnt even annoyed at him at all, just at the circumstance, and the poor wording GW decided to use in relation to psychic shooting attacks, weapons, and perfect timing. If it was explicitly written, i would have went into that game with a different mindset and a different outcome would have been produced. It also would have been helpful had we talked about it before the game, rather than waiting to see that his unit would be deleted or survive to essentially win the game to make the ruling. We both had feelings invested in the situation at that point.

By the way, i did attempt to kill the lone stealth suit afterwards, but to no avail. The unit i delegated to do it failed, and I had more problems elsewhere at that point. Tau overwatch is nasty business.

Much as I think he shouldn't have been such a poor sport about it...

And that he claimed that I won by luck just rubs me the wrong way

...er, you did. You said so.

 Vermis wrote:
Much as I think he shouldn't have been such a poor sport about it...

And that he claimed that I won by luck just rubs me the wrong way

...er, you did. You said so.

Well, it sounds like they were playing a 2000+ point game, and the guy lost a single big unit after two turns which made him quit the game, despite having most of his army still on the table. That's giving up.

Now, if the unit's death had caused half his army to run off the board or something... that'd be some bad luck.

I was trying to play a game of All Quiet recently with a friend in a store. Great terrain, great minis. Unfortunately, it was the same day as a tournament for that D&D X-Wing game. Apparently a couple decided to play, but also brought their 6 year old along.

Now, I'm all for introducing new kids into the hobby. But, being unsupervised, the kid was constantly getting in our way as we moved around the table and kept picking up my friend's models and terrain. His parents would come over, tell him to sit in a chair, and then go back to their game. And he would get right back up and start the process over again. This happen about half a dozen times in a two hour game.
If you're going to bring your kids to a game store, keep an eye on them!

He did orchestrate a chariot charge though and it was successful. He at least had some agency in the win. If the opponent had rolled a dimensional cascade and his uber-expensive sorcerer lord was sucked into the warp - then I'd say he'd won purely by luck

 Vermis wrote:
Much as I think he shouldn't have been such a poor sport about it...

And that he claimed that I won by luck just rubs me the wrong way

...er, you did. You said so.

I were indeed lucky that the greatswords failed their LD but that he just gives up and then says I won because of luck is wrong. I won because he could not handle to lose on unit to bad luck, and he felt the need to make sure that I knew that it weren't really a real victory.

Blaming luck or bad rolls is like blaming the ref in sports. It's what losers do. It's immature and the sign of a person with a loser mentality.

In several tournaments recently I've only had two issues. One involved a necron player not understanding the decurion and running unbound under the judges (and his own) radar. When I was his opponent at the start of day 2, I found the error. He got a little salty after finding out he not only auto lost our game, but got his winning record from day 1 wiped.

The other one just happened where I set up a tank shock trap and crushed an entire ravenwing command squad with a razorback. The judges told him inside of 30 seconds that that was indeed how it worked, but he went round and round with them for the next 20 minutes. He was super-salty about it the rest of the game. After the round ended and he lost, he asked the judges for a time extension because of a lengthy ruling. (They refused of course, being that it was his fault that it took so long.)

Sometimes you do just have bad luck. I've seen whole low Ld armies flee off the board on turn 1 due to a single panic check which then spread uncontrollably. That's bad luck.

Loosing a unit of Greatswords on two bad break rolls is bad luck. Surrendering afterwards is bad generalship, because it's obvious you had no plan for what to do AFTER loosing them.

Of course, some armies HAVE to gamble a bit to win, and if the gamble doesn't pay out they're boned. Brets can be bad for this. I charged three big lances (the majority of my army) into the biggest Chaos Warrior unit my opponent had fielded. Won the combat by a fair margin (as I expected), only to have him make a 4+ break roll on the first roll. Now the majority of my army is stuck in, the rest of his army closing in on the flanks, and without the Strength bonus from the charge it's unlikely I'll ever win another round of combat... however long it lasts.

He had great fun slaughtering my knights in subsequent rounds, but we both knew the game effectively ended once he made that single break test.

This kid had a mistake on how the Mega Forcefield works. he though it gave him a 4++ on the entire green tide.
So, I Snipe out the holder with a lucky Orbital bombardment. first shot of the whole game.
So he whined, was so salty he left the table with his models and the TO played the game for me.

 The Green one wrote:
But what are your most annyingg experience? Please tell

Bronies. Can't fething stand them. That gak has no place in this hobby.

Having people come over to the table and ask my opponents or friends about my old 1990s guard army (that took me months to track down and paint) because they assume it couldn't possibly be mine, due to age and appearances. Every. Time. I. Play.
When directed to me, 9/10 clam up or leave.

Having someone concede due to needing to leave, on minute 58 of an hour long game. Usually fine, but that meant his opponent automatically won the tournament and I could have gone home an hour earlier during a snow storm.

Honestly I tend to focus on the positive. If I didn't, I'd be tempted to stop.

My very last game of WHFB was in 7th against that ridiculous unkillable Bloodknight deathstar, although I did get it down to 3 models before being tabelled.
No fun at all and the random I was playing was having a bit too much fun with his cheesy netlist. The worst bit though was that the entire army was compromised entirely of badly painted and only vaguely appropriate proxies.

When I went to Smogcon 2014, most of my Warmachine opponents, in both casual play and the two tournaments I signed up for, were cool people and fun to play against. And then there was This Guy.

Imagine you were playing against one of the most notorious cheaters in the game. Imagine how you would watch them like a hawk, question everything they did and demand to see the special rules for yourself every time they tried to do anything. He was like that, even though we had never met before. Of course, he didn't apply the same super-precise standards to himself--he won the game with a huge trample from Mulg where he picked up the model and parked it by my warcaster, without checking if it clipped any terrain or models that would stop it--and with the model moved, it was impossible to go back and check. At that point, I didn't argue that hard, I just wanted the game to be over.

I think the thing that stands out to me was how strangely joyless he was, even when winning. And those accursed rods! Okay, so he didn't use a tape for measuring. Instead, he had these metal rods that could slot inside each other to create a stick of the perfect length for any measurement. A great timesaver! Or they would have been if he didn't spend so much time before each measurement fiddling with them and getting them just right.

My first games of 40k when I got back into it after years of not playing were hellish to say the least. But that's the risk of being offered to be shown how the game is played these days by TFG's. "You play Guard? Okay, have fun going up against a named Greater Daemon of Khorne, some Nurglings, those things of Slaanesh and a few mobs of orks, super-duper-fluffy!" Those first few games almost made me want to drop the hobby altogether again.

My first game of Zone Mortalis was also anything but enjoyable, when there's that one player who just like with Elemental above, keeps a sharp eye on your every move, indeed questions everything, but when it's his own turn, play it fast and loose. That was anything but enjoyable, though when he went up against a Grey Knight player he just quit, because he couldn't win and didn't even want to try it any more.

 Elemental wrote:
And those accursed rods! Okay, so he didn't use a tape for measuring. Instead, he had these metal rods that could slot inside each other to create a stick of the perfect length for any measurement. A great timesaver! Or they would have been if he didn't spend so much time before each measurement fiddling with them and getting them just right.

Oh jeeze. Those rods are supposed to be used so that you have one or two of them pre-made, not screwing them in and out.

I would have called him out on that. That's a deliberate attempt to waste time in a game, which is unacceptable during a tournament.

 infinite_array wrote:

 Elemental wrote:
And those accursed rods! Okay, so he didn't use a tape for measuring. Instead, he had these metal rods that could slot inside each other to create a stick of the perfect length for any measurement. A great timesaver! Or they would have been if he didn't spend so much time before each measurement fiddling with them and getting them just right.

Oh jeeze. Those rods are supposed to be used so that you have one or two of them pre-made, not screwing them in and out.

I would have called him out on that. That's a deliberate attempt to waste time in a game, which is unacceptable during a tournament.

Warmachine tournaments usually have death clock or timed rounds, he would be wasting his own time

 Chute82 wrote:

Warmachine tournaments usually have death clock or timed rounds, he would be wasting his own time

Oh. Nevermind then.

Still dumb, though.

 infinite_array wrote:

 Elemental wrote:
And those accursed rods! Okay, so he didn't use a tape for measuring. Instead, he had these metal rods that could slot inside each other to create a stick of the perfect length for any measurement. A great timesaver! Or they would have been if he didn't spend so much time before each measurement fiddling with them and getting them just right.

Oh jeeze. Those rods are supposed to be used so that you have one or two of them pre-made, not screwing them in and out.

I would have called him out on that. That's a deliberate attempt to waste time in a game, which is unacceptable during a tournament.

This wasn't in a tournament. And it wasn't bad enough to count as timewasting, just enough to irritate on a subtle, "gawd, just get on with it" level. I probably wouldn't have minded if he wasn't so aggravating personally.

 Trondheim wrote:
Whenever I have had the displeasure of meeting someone whom plays Tau

You're just bitter Tau are amazing at killing MEQs / SPAACZZZE Marines, Tau lose hard to horde armies. Guess what SPAAZCCE Marines are the most boring unimaginative army in the entire hobby.

When I started playing 9/10 people only play either evil Space Marines or Space Marines. When someone started a new army (he had Space Marines) they had the brilliant idea that he'll start Space Wolves, Black Templars, or Blood Angels instead! PROFIT! Every game was SM vs SM. Space Marines are the easiest army to paint, easiest army to play/most forgiving, the cheapest army to collect, and appeals to the 8-14 year old kid's mind of ZOMG humanity's super heroes!!! I'm playing them! Space Marines are 1.) For kids (Ever seen a 12 year old kid in a GW store play ANYTHING OTHER THEN SPOAAZZE MARINES?) 2.) Everyone and their father plays them. You should be ashamed.

Which is why I love it when Xenos wipes the floor with them (Tau, Eldar, Necrons).

I have been pretty bitter sometimes but I never quite a game.

My friend ran a terminator army and can roll 2+ saves like no other, tough as nails. I line up a 2+ army and it falls to pieces. Pretty frustrating losing 2 termies to 3 wounds a couple times in one phase.

I see other stuff happen like this pretty regular. The player is emotionally invested in whatever centerpiece model and the rest is just chaff to support it. I say it is a valid tactic to concentrate on that centerpiece to demoralize the opponent.

The most terrible experience I ever had in wargaming was reading the AoS rules.

YOU may love AoS all you want. For me, it was the death knell of my favorite wargame.

 Vulcan wrote:
The most terrible experience I ever had in wargaming was reading the AoS rules.

YOU may love AoS all you want. For me, it was the death knell of my favorite wargame.

I hear that. I was thinking about picking up fantasy since my 40k army has virtually everything I want already.
Then I read the AoS rules and was like "NOPE nope nope nope."

Had a game during a 40k GT where my opponents had two friends stood next to him talking away in italian, it was obvious they were giving him advice and tactics but when I causally asked if they'd mind leaving us to game as it was distracting us from the game they proceeded to ignore me. Just wanting to play the game and not make to much of a fuss we played on. When one of his friends started to move his models for him I finally called over a TO to ask them to move. After lossing the game (badly to an eldar warlock deathstar, I had 1st codex necrons) I found out his friends had complained on his behalf about my sportsmanship, really the worst gt game I ever had.

Played this absolute chump at the local GW one time who ran a pathetic Skaven army made up entirely of shooting and magic with a bunch of big troop units and monsters.

Guy was a pick through and through. I came in hard with my Dwarfs and held him off with some quick thinking early on, but then he whipped out the loaded dice. Either that or he's luckier than a bug out of a dog's ass. He made three straight saves in combat with his Grey Seer against my Hammerers. Like what? A magical rat should die in one blow.

Told the guy to pack it up and go home with his cheese list after that. Haven't see him in the store since.

 Trondheim wrote:
Whenever I have had the displeasure of meeting someone whom plays Tau

niv-mizzet wrote:

 Vulcan wrote:
The most terrible experience I ever had in wargaming was reading the AoS rules.

YOU may love AoS all you want. For me, it was the death knell of my favorite wargame.

I hear that. I was thinking about picking up fantasy since my 40k army has virtually everything I want already.
Then I read the AoS rules and was like "NOPE nope nope nope."

Check out what the Swedish Comp Committee and the ETC are doing about that. They call it 'the 9th Age.'

http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=98