Necron's 7th Edition Book. What Are You Hoping For?

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**jasper76**

@vipoid: Well, it would make them nigh invincible against poison-heavy armies.

Don't Dark Eldar and Nurgle Daemons sort of rely on poison?

Believe me...I'm open to the idea! Nothing would make me smile bigger than the first time someone tried to wound me with a S1 Poison 2+ weapon, and I get to say "Nuh-uh".

**ZebioLizard2**

vipoid wrote:
jasper76 wrote:
I know it won't happen, and I know its a good thing it won't happen, but Necrons should be immune to poison weapons...because logic.

Is it really out of the question?

I mean, Marines are immune to Morale and Fear-based weapons.

You mean besides the fact that poisons also includes Acids?

**jasper76**

good point

FWIW, I think poison should act like the Poison rule, and Acid should really act like the Soul Blaze rule, but that ship has already sailed.

**vipoid**

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

You mean besides the fact that poisons also includes Acids?

Oh no! In 5-7 days, My Necrons could be in real trouble.

**ZebioLizard2**

vipoid wrote:
ZebioLizard2 wrote:

You mean besides the fact that poisons also includes Acids?

Oh no! In 5-7 days, My Necrons could be in real trouble.

Okay then, a Chaos Heratek has invented an AI scrambling virus that can penetrate through Necron's, they can now be controlled by the opposing army because they now see the Chaos Lord as their Overlord.

**nosferatu1001**

Vipoid - which GK formation reduces scatter? They can battle focus when they drop, but that's all I saw.

**krodarklorr**

Well, you guys keep discussing that. I still just want Necrons to become Stubborn.

**IHateNids**

krodarklorr wrote:
Well, you guys keep discussing that. I still just want Necrons to become Stubborn.

Cannot exalt enough...

This would make so much sense...

**krodarklorr**

IHateNids wrote:
krodarklorr wrote:
Well, you guys keep discussing that. I still just want Necrons to become Stubborn.
Cannot exalt enough...

This would make so much sense...

Thank you. Someone who agrees! It would fit so much as far as fluff goes, and give us a defense against being swept.

**Fafnir13**

Stubborn would be amazing. At least add it on to the Phaeron upgrade?

**IHateNids**

To be fair, I'm amazed that wasn't what Phaeron did anyway, as Relentless doesn't make a single bit of sense...

**vipoid**

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Okay then, a Chaos Heratek has invented an AI scrambling virus that can penetrate through Necron's, they can now be controlled by the opposing army because they now see the Chaos Lord as their Overlord.

Um... Necron Firewall?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Vipoid - which GK formation reduces scatter? They can battle focus when they drop, but that's all I saw.

I might have been thinking of their Warlord Trait that lets them auto-arrive and reroll the deep strike result.

I could have sworn they had something that reduced scatter, but I don't have the book handy to check.

**krodarklorr**

Fafnir13 wrote:
Stubborn would be amazing. At least add it on to the Phaeron upgrade?

I figured Phaeron could just give Fearless.

**vipoid**

krodarklorr wrote:

I figured Phaeron could just give Fearless.

That would be nice.

jasper76 wrote:
@vipoid: Well, it would make them nigh invincible against poison-heavy armies.

Don't Dark Eldar and Nurgle Daemons sort of rely on poison?

Indeed, I'm glad it's impossible for any other army to be immune to poison.

*cough* Knights *cough*

**nosferatu1001**

vipoid wrote:
ZebioLizard2 wrote:

Okay then, a Chaos Heratek has invented an AI scrambling virus that can penetrate through Necron's, they can now be controlled by the opposing army because they now see the Chaos Lord as their Overlord.

Um... Necron Firewall?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Vipoid - which GK formation reduces scatter? They can battle focus when they drop, but that's all I saw.

I might have been thinking of their Warlord Trait that lets them auto-arrive and reroll the deep strike result.

I could have sworn they had something that reduced scatter, but I don't have the book handy to check.

Yep, the trait allows a reroll, but has no protection in terms of reducing deepstrike (no 1D6 less, or intertial guidance style), however there is nothing that lets them reduce scatter bar teleport homers.

**Furyou Miko**

'crons don't even get teleport homers, except for Imotekh's Bloodswarm.

**vipoid**

Furyou Miko wrote:
'crons don't even get teleport homers, except for Imotekh's Bloodswarm.

But that one is so amazing that we don't need any others.

I mean, for a start, it works with Flayed Ones (easily the strongest unit in the codex). And then, you have the fact that it's entirely random. Now, some people might consider this a down-side (because if removes any element of strategy or tactics), but what do they know? Really, it's a blessing because it means your opponent can't predict Imhotekh's strategy. Therefore, you can Forge the Narrative flawlessly.

**Furyou Miko**

Ooh, the snark is strong with this one.

**krodarklorr**

Lawlz.

**Desubot**

vipoid wrote:
krodarklorr wrote:

I figured Phaeron could just give Fearless.

That would be nice.

jasper76 wrote:
@vipoid: Well, it would make them nigh invincible against poison-heavy armies.

Don't Dark Eldar and Nurgle Daemons sort of rely on poison?

Indeed, I'm glad it's impossible for any other army to be immune to poison.

*cough* Knights *cough*

Would be funny to just make alllll necrons units a vehicles with Av8 1 hp

**krodarklorr**

Desubot wrote:
vipoid wrote:
krodarklorr wrote:

I figured Phaeron could just give Fearless.

That would be nice.

jasper76 wrote:
@vipoid: Well, it would make them nigh invincible against poison-heavy armies.

Don't Dark Eldar and Nurgle Daemons sort of rely on poison?

Indeed, I'm glad it's impossible for any other army to be immune to poison.

*cough* Knights *cough*

Would be funny to just make alllll necrons units a vehicles with Av8 1 hp

Uhhhh....no.

**Desubot**

What they get glanced with bolters on a 4+ which is basically the same thing. while being immune to poison

Its obviously a joke though.

**vipoid**

Desubot wrote:

Would be funny to just make alllll necrons units a vehicles with Av8 1 hp

I think a better idea would be to just remove all this 'AV' nonsense, and have everything use toughness and saves.

You could then add a 'unliving' or 'construct' rule to all vehicles and the like, which makes them immune to poison but perhaps susceptible to other weapons (like Haywire).

**krodarklorr**

vipoid wrote:
Desubot wrote:

Would be funny to just make alllll necrons units a vehicles with Av8 1 hp

I think a better idea would be to just remove all this 'AV' nonsense, and have everything use toughness and saves.

You could then add a 'unliving' or 'construct' rule to all vehicles and the like, which makes them immune to poison but perhaps susceptible to other weapons (like Haywire).

This.

**Slayer-Fan123**

vipoid wrote:
Furyou Miko wrote:
'crons don't even get teleport homers, except for Imotekh's Bloodswarm.

But that one is so amazing that we don't need any others.

I mean, for a start, it works with Flayed Ones (easily the strongest unit in the codex). And then, you have the fact that it's entirely random. Now, some people might consider this a down-side (because if removes any element of strategy or tactics), but what do they know? Really, it's a blessing because it means your opponent can't predict Imhotekh's strategy. Therefore, you can Forge the Narrative flawlessly.

Overall meh, but perfectly DS'ing units of 20 anything is pretty humorous. Plus, it's not like Flayed Ones are as bad as Praetorians or Lychguard.

**krodarklorr**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Furyou Miko wrote:
'crons don't even get teleport homers, except for Imotekh's Bloodswarm.

But that one is so amazing that we don't need any others.

I mean, for a start, it works with Flayed Ones (easily the strongest unit in the codex). And then, you have the fact that it's entirely random. Now, some people might consider this a down-side (because if removes any element of strategy or tactics), but what do they know? Really, it's a blessing because it means your opponent can't predict Imhotekh's strategy. Therefore, you can Forge the Narrative flawlessly.

Overall meh, but perfectly DS'ing units of 20 anything is pretty humorous. Plus, it's not like Flayed Ones are as bad as Praetorians or Lychguard.

Flayed Ones are as bad. Very much so. Lychguard would see more play if they were cheaper for what they are currently, and Praetorians just need to be cheaper and have a few more attacks. Flayed Ones....even if they made them cheaper they would still be borderline useless.

**vipoid**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Overall meh, but perfectly DS'ing units of 20 anything is pretty humorous. Plus, it's not like Flayed Ones are as bad as Praetorians or Lychguard.

I don't see what makes them better. They're not survivable, they're not Fearless, they strike at I2 with no useful melee weapons whatsoever, and a single IG sentinel can tie up said unit of 20 for the entire game.

Also, their combat ability is equivalent to a unit of Necron Warriors rapid-firing into the same target but minus Gauss. So, you have an elite unit that needs to get into melee in order to ape the damage that one of your troop squads can inflict at range.

**krodarklorr**

vipoid wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Overall meh, but perfectly DS'ing units of 20 anything is pretty humorous. Plus, it's not like Flayed Ones are as bad as Praetorians or Lychguard.

I don't see what makes them better. They're not survivable, they're not Fearless, they strike at I2 with no useful melee weapons whatsoever, and a single IG sentinel can tie up said unit of 20 for the entire game.

Also, their combat ability is equivalent to a unit of Necron Warriors rapid-firing into the same target but minus Gauss. So, you have an elite unit that needs to get into melee in order to ape the damage that one of your troop squads can inflict at range.

Once again, this.

**Furyou Miko**

Well, they count double when they assault, that's awesome right?

**NecronLord3**

Lychguard have gone to website exclusive?

N/M must be in error as Pretorians aren't exclusive.