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How do you wash white? Specifically skulls and banners.
I've done a couple of base coats in ceramics white. What wash do you use? I've done nuln oil before but not entirely happy with the result. Also got Casandora yellow, agrax earthshade, seraphim sepia and reikland fleshshade. Any of them worth a try?
I find whites are a good place to use oils. Gloss varnish your acrylic white to protect it then give it a wash with a grey oil wash, I like to use water soluble oils myself.
The advantage of oils is you can mix them really thin so they don't have such a big effect on the white, and you can also come back over with a cotton bud and clean off some of the wash to bring back the white.
If you want something to look white, white should be your high light color, and your midtone should be a slightly off white. For washing, it depends what kind of white you want to end up with. Blue for a cool white, grey for a more neutral white, and brown for a warmer white. For skulls, I use Army Painter Skeleton Bone (same as the old Citadel Bleached Bone) washed with a sepia brown. I dry brush Skeleton Bone back onto it, and very judiciously high light with a little white. Hope this is helpful.
Other advice is to not just slather it over the whole surface, deliberately apply it in the recesses and leave the raised parts well alone.
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Yeah, I'm not sure they thought it through (or maybe they did?!)
Have been using them semi regularly for a couple of years though, and they're legit. Seem to be in the sweet spot that they're big enough to have a good range and decent pricing but not so busy that customer service and speedy dispatch are hard to maintain.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
The reason I don't like washing only recesses with acrylic washes when it comes to white is because you end up with a hard edge which either looks ugly or you need to go over and cover it and try and feather it in, which can be difficult since white has such poor coverage.
The "only wash the recesses" thing I think only works well on darker colours where the hard edge isn't noticeable or colours that are easy to feather out the hard edge it creates.
That's why I'll go back to recommending the oils, if you decide to wash only the recesses with an oil wash the edge is relatively easy to feather out, just use a brush moistened with thinners to blend it out.
It really depends on the nature of the recess I guess, a gentle curve is going to be far more obvious than a hard armour edge.
That said, I find a moist clean brush run along the tide mark is quite effective at softening the transisition, but I'd normally favour the highlight up method for my own painting, just trying to offer the best advice within the confines of the question.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Other advice is to not just slather it over the whole surface, deliberately apply it in the recesses and leave the raised parts well alone.
I do not understand this. A green on white? Do you have an example so I can see it? I can't make this out and would like to see an example so maybe I can start trying this technique.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
You really dont understand it, I haven't mentioned green in the slightest.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Took me a while to get something I liked, but I ended up with this:
1) Prime with Skull White
2) Wash ENTIRE white area with a 50:50 mix of Agrax, and Lahmian Medium
3) Wash only recesses with 100% Agrax
4) Highlight with Ceramite White
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Azreal13 wrote:You really dont understand it, I haven't mentioned green in the slightest.
I just reread it. I swear you said green. Now I see clear as day you said grey. Sorry no wonder I couldn't understand it. LOL I totally misread it.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim