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Rage nothing! I was the one doing it!

I was more partial to the Warp Spider Exarch/ Vortex Grenade delivery system myself.

HarryLeChien wrote:
Seems I'm in something of a minority but I really hope they don't go the route of just a bigger, badder Wraithlord for the rumoured Wraithknight/Construct, I think it would be a wasted opportunity to introduce something a little different into the aesthetic.

Seen a few converted centaur-wraithlords here and there, loved the look, and always intended to try to replicate it myself, so if they do release My Little WraithPony I'll probably be re-mortgaging and buying a couple.

Agreed a 100%, a bigger wraithlord would be hugely dissapointing, while a ponywraithlord would porbably be the coolest thing ever

But if it's bigger than a wraithlord, then you can model your current wraithlord riding it! Wraith cavalry! Ooh! ooh! make it on fire and give it a catapult that shoots wraithguard!

I want two of the above!!

ooooooooh WraithCavalryLord, stonkingly good idea

Reaper boltthrower firing burning Wraithguard, I can see it now...

Can we get off the silly and back on topic until new rumors come out?

Games Workshop are teetering on the brink of silly. Each 'big kit' tends to be a bit lazy and under developed. The Heldrake was a travesty.... the Riptide is pretty cool i guess, but lacks imagination, 'just make a battle suit bigger'.

Everything of late seems rushed and/or cartoonish.

Anyway, if this 'big wrath construct' does turn out to be that tw@tish horse thing i wil no longer have any faith in the art-direction of that place.

FTL


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FarseerAndyMan wrote:
Im hoping against hope that we finally get our Exodite dragon kinights back!!

You and me both brother... (check my avatar).

I fear its a forlorn hope though.

FTL

Hey, Bright Stallion is a mini from back in the glory days when GW paid at least some attention to the fans

(and before MLP even existed)

I'd be interested to see a modern (plastic) re-interpretation.

Will we get one ? Who knows it's only rumour so far

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Hey, Bright Stallion is a mini from back in the glory days when GW paid at least some attention to the fans

(and before MLP even existed)

I'd be interested to see a modern (plastic) re-interpretation.

Will we get one ? Who knows it's only rumour so far

I know, but 'classic' does not automatically mean good. The bright stallion always looked ridiculous.

FTL

 fasterthanlight wrote:
Games Workshop are teetering on the brink of silly. Each 'big kit' tends to be a bit lazy and under developed. The Heldrake was a travesty.... the Riptide is pretty cool i guess, but lacks imagination, 'just make a battle suit bigger'.

Everything of late seems rushed and/or cartoonish.

Anyway, if this 'big wrath construct' does turn out to be that tw@tish horse thing i wil no longer have any faith in the art-direction of that place.

FTL

I think it seems "rushed" so they can get things out much quicker than before, though the quality of construction, assembly, conversion options, extra bits, etc., is still there.

What else were the Tau going to get? That's what they do - make skimmer tanks and battle suits. Even so, the Riptide has considerable detail variances to the smaller suits. That's what real-life armies do when making something large: base it on a frame they are familiar with. Every army is getting a giant kit and a flyer kit, and I imagine the aim is balance. PP does the exact same thing (with a smaller, and less varied miniature range, mind you) and people praise it. GW does it and it's "unimaginative and cartoonish."

So what would have been better while still fitting into the Tau aesthetic?

Do you like the FW Eldar Titans? I ask, because they look exactly like giant Wraithlords and War Walkers. In a product where aesthetics are half of the hobby, having each faction maintain a unified theme across the board is pretty important.

I just want aspects to function better in the game than they currently do. I can't remember the last time I've used any besides Warpspiders and Dire Avengers. Currently, there is no point in fielding Scorpions, Banshees, and Hawks. They have absolutely zero contribution to a list. That's sad as the models are awesome.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Hey, Bright Stallion is a mini from back in the glory days when GW paid at least some attention to the fans

(and before MLP even existed)

While I am in no possible way a "brony", MLP predates the 40k universe and possibly even Warhammer Fantasy. The only difference was back then it was the domain of 5 year old little girls.

 pretre wrote:
Can we get off the silly and back on topic until new rumors come out?

Yes.

Though by page 25+, it is usually a lost cause, and threads end up getting closed until something substantial shows up again.

 fasterthanlight wrote:
Games Workshop are teetering on the brink of silly. Each 'big kit' tends to be a bit lazy and under developed. The Heldrake was a travesty.... the Riptide is pretty cool i guess, but lacks imagination, 'just make a battle suit bigger'.

Everything of late seems rushed and/or cartoonish.

Anyway, if this 'big wrath construct' does turn out to be that tw@tish horse thing i wil no longer have any faith in the art-direction of that place.

FTL

I agree with this 100%. The Heldrake, the Slaughterbrute, the Forgefiend, the Mutilators, the High Elves flying chariot (the hawk is cool, but the idea is just silly), the Forsaken, the Dark Angels Land Speeder Vengeance... The main releases seem to be almost total rubbish, with the mini one-off releases being better (plastic Hive Tyrant, or Bloodcrushers, for example)

This is why the only models I've bought in the last year have been DreamForge. If some of the Eldar stuff is equal to the existing plastics, and not INSANELY priced (like, $80 for the big walker, I'm estimating) I might pick some up. But I've gone from expecting to want some of every new release (as it used to be) to expecting to NOT want 90% of anything that comes out.

-C6

-C6

 warboss wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Hey, Bright Stallion is a mini from back in the glory days when GW paid at least some attention to the fans

(and before MLP even existed)

While I am in no possible way a "brony", MLP predates the 40k universe and possibly even Warhammer Fantasy. The only difference was back then it was the domain of 5 year old little girls.

Fair point, I was referring to the current iteration of MLP, but as you point out the first appeared as toys in 1983 (the current series only dates to 2010)

The Bright Stallion Eldar Knight is from 1991

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Hey, Bright Stallion is a mini from back in the glory days when GW paid at least some attention to the fans

(and before MLP even existed)

I'd be interested to see a modern (plastic) re-interpretation.

Will we get one ? Who knows it's only rumour so far

To be fair, the rumour is a large, oval base Wraithbone construct. I think I was the first to post a pic of the Bright Stallion, in this thread at least, and will be appropriately smug if I called it right!

I might even buy one if well executed, and I don't have, or plan to collect, any Eldar, but for the nostalgia.

 catharsix wrote:


I agree with this 100%. The Heldrake, the Slaughterbrute, the Forgefiend, the Mutilators, the High Elves flying chariot (the hawk is cool, but the idea is just silly), the Forsaken, the Dark Angels Land Speeder Vengeance... The main releases seem to be almost total rubbish, with the mini one-off releases being better (plastic Hive Tyrant, or Bloodcrushers, for example)

[Please do not try to circumvent the swear filter - thanks. Alpharius] hell... the Forgefiend. I forgot about that... it looked like it had been knocked up by a toddler with a bitzbox. As for the Slaughterbrute, shame.

Sorry we got off topic there... pointy ears from here on in.

FTL

Bigred @ BOLS wrote:Stats for the Eldar "Knight" main gun:

"Pulsar Lance"
Primary fire mode:
36" S:8 AP2 Heavy 2, Lance

Overcharge mode (weapon may not fire next turn)
48" S:10 AP1 Heavy 1, Blast, Lance

Really? Another overcharge this soon? Unnnn-likely.

Also, S10 AP1 Lance Blast? Yikes.

I think Bigred must be visiting Washington or Colorado.

Eldar have since the last codex had overcharging their weapons be their 'thing'. Dire Avengers' pewpewstorm and Fire Prism gigapewpew and Shadow Spectres combinedpewpew have been all about alternate fire modes with a drawback.

It's still a bit disappointing to see 36" is still pretty much the standard range for Eldar heavy weapons.

 pretre wrote:
Really? Another overcharge this soon? Unnnn-likely.

Also, S10 AP1 Lance Blast? Yikes.

I think Bigred must be visiting Washington or Colorado.

Not to mention the overcharge makes the weapon worse really. 1 shot every 2 turns, instead of 2 every turn. Scatter and normal blast marker only? No thanks. I don't see them giving the Lance USR to anything but S8 anyway.

 Shandara wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Really? Another overcharge this soon? Unnnn-likely.

Also, S10 AP1 Lance Blast? Yikes.

I think Bigred must be visiting Washington or Colorado.

Not to mention the overcharge makes the weapon worse really. 1 shot every 2 turns, instead of 2 every turn. Scatter and normal blast marker only? No thanks. I don't see them giving the Lance USR to anything but S8 anyway.

A S10 AP1 lance shot that cannot miss (only scatter) is possibly the most reliable way to get a penetrating hit on an AV14 vehicle in the game. Unless you roll an abysmal scatter and somehow fall off the Land Raider's enormous bulk, you're going to likely penetrate.
The non-overcharged mode can miss outright due to the BS roll.
Plus, the option to do either is always nice.

It's all really down to the cost of everything...
...and arguably the look of it. I hope it's not another Mechagodzilla with Wraith-bits.

dark eldar have str 9 lance...

 zachwho wrote:
dark eldar have str 9 lance...

The Void Lance isn't a blast (it can outright miss on a bad roll) and is AP2. It's actually rather comparable to the once-per-game Void Mine, except it's once-every-two-turns.

I really don't dig GW's current penchant for big MCs. What happened to tanks or kick-ass infantry squads?

Mega units don't have to be some mecha-godzilla, and only a few factions are really suitable for that. Eldar already have the Avatar and Wraithlord, there's a precedent, but I don't feel its needed.

I mean, at this rate, what, will the Guard have a giant mecha-commissar? This rather predictable format of flier/oval base unit/FC characters and single plastic character is not terribly exciting.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I really don't dig GW's current penchant for big MCs. What happened to tanks or kick-ass infantry squads?

Mega units don't have to be some mecha-godzilla, and only a few factions are really suitable for that. Eldar already have the Avatar and Wraithlord, there's a precedent, but I don't feel its needed.

I mean, at this rate, what, will the Guard have a giant mecha-commissar? This rather predictable format of flier/oval base unit/FC characters and single plastic character is not terribly exciting.

well I agree....from a GW/business sense a new codex release is to target both new players and veteran players. If they for instance buff dark reapers there is no reason for me to buy more dark reapers because I already have a ton, even if they put out a new reaper model it isnt a 100% must buy for a veteran gamer, however if they put out a new shinny fancy giant whatchamacallit and charge $85 for it, veterans and newbies a like will feel the temptation

 ironicsilence wrote:

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I really don't dig GW's current penchant for big MCs. What happened to tanks or kick-ass infantry squads?

Mega units don't have to be some mecha-godzilla, and only a few factions are really suitable for that. Eldar already have the Avatar and Wraithlord, there's a precedent, but I don't feel its needed.

I mean, at this rate, what, will the Guard have a giant mecha-commissar? This rather predictable format of flier/oval base unit/FC characters and single plastic character is not terribly exciting.

well I agree....from a GW/business sense a new codex release is to target both new players and veteran players. If they for instance buff dark reapers there is no reason for me to buy more dark reapers because I already have a ton, even if they put out a new reaper model it isnt a 100% must buy for a veteran gamer, however if they put out a new shinny fancy giant whatchamacallit and charge $85 for it, veterans and newbies a like will feel the temptation

Well, if they release a new shiny that doesn't looks absolutely pants it might make me feel tempted. But after the extreme disappointment that the CSM release was, I have lost any hope that GW will put out stuff that I want to buy (I'm still open to surprise though). That's a real shame too, because I think that the Dark Eldar and Necrons releases were pretty much perfect.

That said, back when I first got into 40k, rather tentatively, in middle school, I had Eldar stuff (2nd Ed. era). Haven't really gone back to them, but some nice new plastics, especially Aspect Warriors, would be hard to resist.

Speaking of, any further word on the possibility of Aspect Warrior plastics? Dual kits?

-C6

 catharsix wrote:
Speaking of, any further word on the possibility of Aspect Warrior plastics? Dual kits?

-C6

There was a recent rumour over at Warseer that spoke about the Aspects being done as dual kits, but gave no details on what aspects would be combined in each kit.

But then it went on to say the giant Wraith construct would be near Phantom Titan sized... so it's kind of unlikely.

The those talking about the silliness of the Bright Stallion.
40k needs more silly.

You can feel free to buy it if it's a Bright Stallion. I'll pass on that one.