Forge World News letter #278 (Heresy-era Dreadnought)

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**SickSix**

It couldn't be possible that Forge world is feeling pressure from third party casters is it? Personally this could be seen as a pre-emptive strike to take money out of others hands. And I still like the alternative designs better. The legs on this one seem really out of place.

**Garuss Acine**

ugh >< now i need to find a way to get the money, for 2-4 of these bad boys...for that awesomeness $75 is a tad much, but I want them badly! darn there goes my way of getting a used WOC army. now to add up how much I can save, and hope this stuff arrives before I have to leave for the states.

**monkeyh**

Garuss Acine wrote:ugh >< now i need to find a way to get the money, for 2-4 of these bad boys...for that awesomeness $75 is a tad much, but I want them badly! darn there goes my way of getting a used WOC army. now to add up how much I can save, and hope this stuff arrives before I have to leave for the states.

I'm just glad I live in good old Blighty - £45 sound alot better than $75! (I know it's all the same - but phsycologically you know what I mean)

**pombe**

Well played, GW, well played.

Nostalgia works very well on me, and you almost made me consider spending money on you.

Good thing I still have my old RT-era Dreadnoughts.

Now...if you redo some of these RT-era Terminators...well...I never got enough of those...
linky:http://carminethewolf.deviantart.com/art/SOTA-Rogue-Trader-Terminator-1-188315769?offset=10

**Medium of Death**

Alpharius wrote:Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

I'm hoping that, like the purity seals, they are optional extra's.

**whitedragon**

Is it bad if the rules excite me more for Chaos than the idea of buying another model?

**monkeyh**

pombe wrote:Well played, GW, well played.

Nostalgia works very well on me, and you almost made me consider spending money on you.

Good thing I still have my old RT-era Dreadnoughts.

Now...if you redo some of these RT-era Terminators...well...I never got enough of those...
linky:http://carminethewolf.deviantart.com/art/SOTA-Rogue-Trader-Terminator-1-188315769?offset=10

Now you're talking! I used to have one of those (I sadly gave it to a mate who consequently had all his Warhammer stuff nicked) - but you rarely see them with the banner pole that went on the back. Rare as hens teeth now.

**Xca|iber**

alphaomega wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what the Dreadknight should have looked like.

That is what I plan to do with it Kan.

It should make an epic Dreadknight

Likewise. I am so very happy now.

**Alpharius**

Medium of Death wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

I'm hoping that, like the purity seals, they are optional extra's.

Good catch - it looks like you're right!

No scraping required - even more reason to purchase two now!

**Platuan4th**

Alpharius wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Love it!

Although the Nitpick in me says I'll have to scrape off the Aquila if it is going to be Pre-Heresy/Crusade Era Dreadnought 'counts-as'.

I'll be picking up two... eventually!

I'm hoping that, like the purity seals, they are optional extra's.

Good catch - it looks like you're right!

No scraping required - even more reason to purchase two now!

Wait, there's more reason needed to purchase more than one? I'm thinking like 4(2 for my DW, 2 for Chaos).

**carabine**

Kanluwen wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
For everyone looking to make a Dreadknight out of it, it's a bit short.

Pft. Maybe the Dreadknight is too tall!

QFT. I wanted the dreadknight to be a suit of armor a step above terminator armour, what I got was a bad mix of Aliens and 40k. Here comes FW to answer my hopes and dreams.

Now we're one model closer to pre heresy terminators. Now I'm dedicated to waiting atleast until IA 11 before I decide to just convert my own.

I've been trying to get taller dreads for years now, http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/292137.page about halfway down has one of my better attempts, lord knows I need to post my better looking successes.

Anyways I am definely buying several of these, one to convert to a chaplain, 2 into siege and one into an ironclad for several FW forces and one possibly apoc force

**Alpharius**

FW ain't no dummies - Pre-Heresy sells.

I'm actually frightened over how many Pre-Heresy Terminators they'll soon be forcing me to purchase...

Also, while these will be for my True Scale Alpha legion force (especially as FW was so kind as to make them bigger than standard Dreadnoughts!), I've already got a nice Raven Guard Pre-Heresy Dread courtesy of our very own insaniak!

Pre-Heresy Dreadnought - Insaniak Pattern!

**Death By Monkeys**

carabine wrote:QFT. I wanted the dreadknight to be a suit of armor a step above terminator armour, what I got was a bad mix of Aliens and 40k. Here comes FW to answer my hopes and dreams.

What was got was Matrix 3, and while that was one of the best scenes in the movie, did not stop it from being the crap-pile that it was. I agree, though, that this is an awesome Dreadknight proxy. I wonder how difficult it would be to use the DK arms on this bad boy...

**Mad4Minis**

MajorTom11 wrote:I loves it.... this is pretty big news!

Agreed. The proportions are finally right. Looks like Im gonna have to get one...or more.

**Frazzled**

alphaomega wrote:A true relic of the hallowed days of the Great Crusade, and of the heights of technological achievement once reached by the Imperium of Mankind, the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought was a mainstay of the armoured might of the Astartes Legions of old. Larger and stronger than standard pattern Dreadnoughts, the Contemptor’s systems featured many examples of techno-arcana steeped in the sacred mysteries of the Legio Cybernetica.
Due to their spearhead assault role in the epic battles of the Great Crusade, losses were high amongst these potent war machines, and in the shadowed aftermath of the Heresy the ability to produce or maintain the Contemptor was all but lost. However, some Chapters still boast these war-relics amongst their ranks, and whenever the Contemptor takes to the field of battle it is an echo of the power of ancient days.

The Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought, designed by Will Hayes, is a detailed full resin kit that allows any Space Marine (or Chaos Space Marine) army to field one of these ancient war machines. Will has also designed two unique weapon options: a Contemptor Pattern Lascannon Arm and a Contemptor Pattern Close Combat Arm (Fist). These two weapons can be used on either side of the Dreadnought body, which is itself a fully poseable miniature.
Experimental rules for this storied and ancient Dreadnought are available to download now from the Forge World website, and this kit and its weapon arms are available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 25th July.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CONTEMPTOR_PATTERN_DREADNOUGHT_BODY.html

Carcharodons Transfer Sheet
Packed with well over 500 individual transfers, the Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is a hotly-anticipated addition to Forge World’s range of A4 transfer sheets. Kenton Mills has crammed onto it Chapter badges sized for both infantry and vehicles, heraldic blazons, Void Maw devices and a wide range of different sigils and devices that denote an individual Carcharodon warrior’s record of carnage across the stars, albeit in a manner that ensures his deeds may only be read by another Astartes of this ill-famed and sinister Chapter.

The Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is available to order now for immediate despatch

Finally a dreadnougth with appropriately sized legs. The legs would also go well with more traditional dreanought torsos.

**Alfhedil**

Excellent maneuver FW. You have successfully prompted me into buying some of your product. Expect me to buy at least 4.

**Reecius**

Yes. Yes, I will be getting one of those, thank you.

**Fafnir**

Not gonna lie... I like the look of the Angry Washing Machine Dreads.

But I guess having something that looks even cooler is nice too.

**ShumaGorath**

Yggdrasil wrote:I'm not really fond of it actually, as some said it looks a bit fat...

Reminds me of the Urbanmech from the Mechwarrior universe...

But one thing I LOVE is how the stormbolter is included within the palm of the DCCW : that's EPIC!!!

How the hell does it look less like an Urbanmech then the basic dreadnaught?

Fetterkey wrote:As it stands, the rules are a little mediocre (par for the course with FW), but the model is amazing. Another hit from FW, who have been on a roll in general lately. I just wish they'd make a resin combi-weapons kit, as this would both fill a gap in the product line and be awesome in its own right.

The rules seem ok to me. It's got the armor of an iron clad and the ability to ignore lethal hits like the venerable while having good ranged or close weapon options. Fleet gives it superior ability to close then its competition as well. It's cost ends up similar to a high end venerable, and those aren't too bad for the package you're getting.

First of all I don't like it much - it looks too much like anime mecha. I don't like the space marine helmet head.

This thing isn't anime at all.

I'll be getting one!

**insaniak**

I'm not entirely sold on the lascannon arms... looks awkward. And the legs don't quite match the design of the rest of the body.

But overall, I love it. A little more graceful than the one I made...

**ShumaGorath**

insaniak wrote:I'm not entirely sold on the lascannon arms... looks awkward. And the legs don't quite match the design of the rest of the body.

But overall, I love it. A little more graceful than the one I made...

They match the torso and arms quite well, the boxy rounded armor areas are pretty similar, as are the gears. The dreadnaught boxy shoulderpads throw it off a bit, but I think it's a nice touch.

**Kroothawk**

Reminds me of Gundam Mobile Suit Z'Gok:

**JOHIRA**

Yeah, not getting the claims that this is anime. Then again, if half of the things people on this board have called anime actually were anime then pretty much everything in existence was keyframed in an Osaka studio.

It's really a great model in a lot of ways. It shows the designers actually thought about the design before they sat down and started tacking on skullz. It really looks like a product of the same culture, but from an earlier time. I like it.

**Platuan4th**

Kroothawk wrote:Reminds me of Gundam Mobile Suit Z'Gok:

Anal retention time:

That's a Z'gok E, not a Z'gok.

This is a Z'gok:

**Sheck2**

Double thumbs up...like the model and the rules.

**aka_mythos**

ThomasPolder wrote:
actually you'll find the weapon that dread is depicted as holding is already in the rules: it's a twin-linked autocannon. look at the ammo drums on the side, the it's a way too large caliber for an assault cannon, also the weapons seem to be one smooth barrel each. which is not very assault-cannon-ey

That wasn't the artwork that shows it with a twin-linked assault cannon. Its a different one.

**Jadenim**

Finally the whole "Tactical Dreadnought Armour" thing makes sense!

I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

Tense's are difficult when you're talking about a new imagining of a past to a future that was imagined in our past...

**Mad4Minis**

monkeyh wrote:
I'm just glad I live in good old Blighty - £45 sound alot better than $75! (I know it's all the same - but phsycologically you know what I mean)

Yeah I hear that...sadly keeps me from ordering many things from England. I see the price and think "hey thats not bad", then realize "dammit thats pounds not dollars", which leads to "that means double the listed price, no thanks". Some things are worth it (like this new dread) but sadly many just arent.

**Llamahead**

Have to agree with Jadenim here. Really am tempted by this guy. Oh and looking at it am I the only one getting a bit of a Cygnar Warjack vibe from it?

**insaniak**

Jadenim wrote:I've never understood why they call Terminator armour that, because other than being as tough as nails they look nothing like dreadnoughts. But now they do. Or did. Or something.

I believe it's simply down to them originally being designed essentially as 'mini-dreadnoughts' for close-in fighting where regular Dreadnoughts wouldn't fit.