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Buzzcut is a huge disappointment... Fantastic concept art turned bad miniature. Not every model needs some wacky dynamic pose, Buzzcut just being a huge hulking brute would have been fine.

This is exactly how the screwed up the marauder Warboss metal. They had an awesome concept art then gave the model such a twisted, unreal annoying pose, it ruined the model.

Why is Buzzcut painted with flesh tones? I though he was an orc?

 Commander Cain wrote:
Why is Buzzcut painted with flesh tones? I though he was an orc?

That too... He looked fine as an Ork, he looks like an unreasonable cartoon as a human.

I never thought he was an Orc. I thought he was some sort of Simian. Completely agreed with the pose. I feel he should have been standing with hands raised with balled fists about to "hulk smash" someone. Not only would it make the model look even taller, it would make it to where you'd want to just avoid the guy.

At any rate, I feel there will be more ejections trying to sucker punch that guy then any other foul situation


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does anyone else (who DIDN'T do kickstater) think that the Season 2 Launch Pack is a bit pricey? At $175, it just seems like you really aren't getting anything for buying "everything" except for the Penny arcade MVP.

Perhaps if I planned on doing all the Season 2 teams this would seem appealing, but a couple of them don't really hold a lot of my interest, and I have enough human models at this point, I don't really need the Ladies to field a team with their rule set.

Does anyone feel it is a good buy (again, the kickstarter people are gonna have a scewed opinion, so I'd rather hear from the people who missed it).

Painted Firewall MVP in the latest mantic newsletter

image removed coz DaveC got there first (again), top ninja-ing sir

 Commander Cain wrote:
Why is Buzzcut painted with flesh tones? I though he was an orc?

I believe he's an Ogre not an Orc hence the human flesh tone I think mine will be getting green skin though that's how I pictured him.

Personally I like the pose, but I to was under the impression that he was an orc.

 DaveC wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
Why is Buzzcut painted with flesh tones? I though he was an orc?

I believe he's an Ogre not an Orc hence the human flesh tone I think mine will be getting green skin though that's how I pictured him.

Yeah, and I think the paint job is letting that model down more than anything (imo).

Yeah, neither the pose nor the white t-shirt are doing much for him...

I like the model-I think it's good, and you can make the white shirt work-use white, then a badab black wash. Check oh my relic ogryn in my gallery to see how it looks.

Maybe that's the point of the fig. He's a dude that grabs whatever out of the closet and wears it when he goes out lol

Someone should digibash him green to see if that helps for those expecting him to be an orx.

The shirt is fine, the pose is just odd. It is what I would expect a cartoon giant trying to stomp on a tiny person would look like. Not every model needs to be doing some crazy pose. I think that is why the Zzor and Bots appeal so much because they are very simple poses which show off the model without ruining it with some crazy pose.

What's so odd about his pose? He's running, Juggernaut-style.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What's so odd about his pose? He's running, Juggernaut-style.

Upper body is at end of a step, lower body is in the middle of a step. Together it looks like he is dancing on the spot, like the Jadwan champ.
Guess the tiny base leads sculptors to make odd compromises with poses.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What's so odd about his pose? He's running, Juggernaut-style.

Upper body is at end of a step, lower body is in the middle of a step. Together it looks like he is dancing on the spot, like the Jadwan champ.
Guess the tiny base leads sculptors to make odd compromises with poses.

Getting into "art is subjective" when I look at the model I see him about to sweep his right arm across to shove an opponent to the side while barreling towards his final target. Not to say there aren't better poses they could have gone with, but it seems fairly normal for the DB MVPs to have that kind of "action shot" posing where they're sculpted doing something versus a generic "at the ready" pose.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What's so odd about his pose? He's running, Juggernaut-style.

Upper body is at end of a step, lower body is in the middle of a step. Together it looks like he is dancing on the spot, like the Jadwan champ.
Guess the tiny base leads sculptors to make odd compromises with poses.

Perhaps they have a "Dancing with the Stars" supplement coming out later?

Hey guys. The brief I was given for Buzzcut was that he's not an orc, and should have tanned skin. Other than that I was free to do what I wanted. I went with a white t-shirt because his description says he often plays stripped to the waist, so this is his underwear. I also wanted to keep him bright and clean, as we have to bear in mind photography. He is a great model and you will have a lot of fun painting him, (even if he does look like he's skanking).

he's more ogrish than orcish... doesn't look anything like the orcs.

Exactly. Nowhere in the fluff is he described as an orc. He's a one-off. At least, for the moment...

He looks exactly like the Orx models, same proportions and even armor style.

And now he is bowling an invisible bowling ball. His back hand is 'open' for no reason.

The model gets worse and worse the more versions and angles of him I see.

I think the sculpt is great don't see what the fuss is about, paint him like an orc and be done with it.

I also like the Judwan having seen them in person, there's something about the skinnier models that Mantic makes that just doesn't come across well in photographs.

Like one poster mentioned, it will probably make more sense when you have another model to his side and it makes it more apparent that he is "batting" someone out of the way as he is charging someone else. I still feel he could he utilized a hulk smash look though with double balled fists raised as if he was about to crush someone.

And I never read anywhere that he was an Ork. I understand the confusion, but it really should be cased closed that he isn't at this point, and it was just false assumptions that some had.

Eh, "wait until you see the model in person" or "it is just a bad photos" didn't work for the previous failed sculpts, I don't have much faith that it will work for this one either.

It worked for Wildcard. The model really does look better in real life because the photographers kept futzing up. The pose is a Marvel Comics pose, which looks better when seen from specific angles, like Iron Man's punch. In fact, her pose is very similar to this Spiderman punch (in that it looks great from certain angles only), as well as several classic Jim Lee "wind-ups".

Disagree.

Wildcard's pose is still stupid. Even in hand. Sculpting is a bit better in person, but still not great.

Posing is one area where a lot of miniatures sculptors fall on their behinds. Some more than others.

The Judwan MVP and Buzzcut bot seems to suffer from bad posing and I highly doubt that seeing them in hand will help that.

~Eric

Wildcard is a trash model. It is poor sculpt and pose. All the excuses are just that, excuses.

Oh not the Wildcard debate again? I for one quite like her now I own the model!

I thought she was one of the better MVP models

"My opinion is correct, and anyone else's is wrong, because they're fething stupid and I'm brilliant."

My point is just that Mantic has terrible, terrible photographers.

the worst in the industry, maybe.

Seriously terrible.