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The thing with the Assault Company Captain is... He just looks far too similar to Korvydae from Forgeworld, except with a rubbish weapon and an oversized Iron Halo.

Since I've got Korvydae already (and given him a Helmet), that guy basically means this new set is a 'nogo' to me. At GW's finecast prices (We're likely talking £45-£50, like the 'White Council' set), 1/4 being not useful at all, really just is not a viable purchase.

Korvydae would make an Excellent stand in!

Next teaser is up:

I like the new marines they look good

And the speakers are probably for the enemy to hear the pure words of the emperor

and for imperial guards/citizen to hear the emperor's word not for the brother marines

To bad it will be i Failcast ..all the fine detail will be a mess :(

I was stupid and buot the dark apostle ..well backpack and crozer was so bad i had to throw them away T.T

I like the Vindicator flash at 1:04. hehehehe!

Also, That's a Chaos Warhound, baby. Chaos, come get some!

 n0t_u wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Don't really like the Master of the Marches- kinda stupid having those two great big speakers on the back to relay orders on the battlefield. That's what their helmet vox-comms are for! Idiots.

Not in an army where every CO and NCO has lost his helmet

So true! I wondered why they take the helmet off of every SGT and zero. They are so damn difficult to put back on.

Why did they need to release these? Don't they still have the chapter masters set that I have never seen anyone buy? How many masters can be in each chapter? There only are a thousand Marines in the army and it seems like like every 4th guy is master of something. I know what I'd be the master of, Bater. Sorry, its early and I hate work...

Slightly more effort into that one!

 Davespil wrote:
Why did they need to release these? Don't they still have the chapter masters set that I have never seen anyone buy? How many masters can be in each chapter? There only are a thousand Marines in the army and it seems like like every 4th guy is master of something. I know what I'd be the master of, Bater. Sorry, its early and I hate work...

One Master for each Company
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Master_(Space_Marine)#.Uchj4vnFXu0

A space Marine chapter has 10 companies of 100 Space Marines each. Each company is presided over by captain. These captains have official titles and responsibilities associated with them.

The 10th company has your scout squads and is lead by the Master of the Recruits.

The 9th company has the bulk of your Devastator marines, and is lead by the Master of Relics.

And so on.

Edit: Ninja'd by DC69.

That flash looks like a new super heavy.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
That flash looks like a new super heavy.

Maybe. Hard to tell. I'm hoping you're correct, though.

 kronk wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
That flash looks like a new super heavy.

Maybe. Hard to tell. I'm hoping you're correct, though.

It looks like the forge world chaos war hound titan
even has the chaos star on the top panels and legs.

but if its plastic

ohboyohboyohboyohboy

Edit: or did i miss something?

So they make a teaser showing nothing new.

So it seems. nothing new.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:


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The Master of the Marches looks more like an Adeptus Terra scribe in power armour than a Company Master with the scroll and speakers.
<snip>
Master of Ceremonies, again, looks more like a scribe than an Astartes. It's a great concept that looks well for a diorama but looks out of place on a gaming table. It also doesn't know if it wants to be a Chaplain or a Company Master.
...

(Cutting parts of your post to focus on those two lines)

The bolded bit got my thinking, how would these guys do with a black paint job and possible weapon swap to something more crozius-like? Maybe a skull-helmet? They may be a little "meh" as captains, but they might make better chaplains...

 Desubot wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
That flash looks like a new super heavy.

Yeah, I blew the photo up ... its just a CSM Vindicator without the dozer blade, looks like ... sadness.

 Desubot wrote:

It looks like the forge world chaos war hound titan

Yeah, we're talking about the tank that shoots at 1:04.

I'm aware that there is a Warhound Titan in there, though. I have assembled and painted one, and after spending 3 months on it, I can spot it fairly easily!

"Send everything". Yay. Does this mean no staggered release wave?

I don't think the sculpts really are that bad- at least no worse than the over-decorated junk GW has been pumping out for SM for years. Lemartes has become the new normal.

Actually, I kinda like the Master of Marches and Master of Relics.

What I dislike is attaching game mechanics to them. I'm of the opinion that models to represent an army's administrators is great- but combat-wise those administrators don't have to be any different from any other soldier on the field. Take the master of marches for example. The guy who administers the chapter fighting strength doesn't need to be any different in battle than any other equivalently-ranked character. And just because he's physically present on the battlefield doesn't mean his soldiers are going to fight any differently than if he's up on an orbiting spacecraft.

EDIT: What I would rather have seen is what I can picture GW of the 3rd edition years doing: Release these models (or even better, a set of conversion bits to turn regular SM characters into these high-ranking administrators) together with a "How to paint Space Marines" that gives the heraldry for each position, as well as information about how different chapters might fill these roles differently. In other words, these sorts of characters should be there to spur modelling creativity, not to build army lists. Now of course, without rules that give bonuses, players wouldn't need to buy these kits, and that flies in the face of everything GW is about. They would have to sell the conversion kits on the basis of how good the models look, and that's a risk it seems GW isn't willing to take any more.

 JOHIRA wrote:


What I dislike is attaching game mechanics to them. I'm of the opinion that models to represent an army's administrators is great- but combat-wise those administrators don't have to be any different from any other soldier on the field. Take the master of marches for example. The guy who administers the chapter fighting strength doesn't need to be any different in battle than any other equivalently-ranked character. And just because he's physically present on the battlefield doesn't mean his soldiers are going to fight any differently than if he's up on an orbiting spacecraft.

Are you familiar with the Master of the Chapter datasheet from the old Apocalypse rules? They'd only be "different in battle than any other equivalently-ranked character" in an apocalypse game. For your standard game, you'd just use him as a chapter captain or chapter master with the wargear shown.

Is it just me or do some of the details on the building sprues look new?

Despite not really showing anything new, who else was excited this wasn't the same piece of crap "teasers" GW has been posting. This video actually gets me excited for the release, those marines do not unfortunately haha.

 kronk wrote:

 JOHIRA wrote:


What I dislike is attaching game mechanics to them. I'm of the opinion that models to represent an army's administrators is great- but combat-wise those administrators don't have to be any different from any other soldier on the field. Take the master of marches for example. The guy who administers the chapter fighting strength doesn't need to be any different in battle than any other equivalently-ranked character. And just because he's physically present on the battlefield doesn't mean his soldiers are going to fight any differently than if he's up on an orbiting spacecraft.

Are you familiar with the Master of the Chapter datasheet from the old Apocalypse rules? They'd only be "different in battle than any other equivalently-ranked character" in an apocalypse game. For your standard game, you'd just use him as a chapter captain or chapter master with the wargear shown.

I understand that. And I've edited my post to make my point more clear. While I won't go so far as to say models like this stifle players' creativity, they don't do as much to inspire as they could.

I like these. They have an old-school charm to them. For those of you complaining about the speakers on the Master of Marches: this is 40k, where noise marines, jokaero, and orks exist

orkybenji wrote:
I like these. They have an old-school charm to them. For those of you complaining about the speakers on the Master of Marches: this is 40k, where noise marines, jokaero, and orks exist

With these models combined with the DA DJ-speeder, you soon can have your whole army dropping Emperor's righteous beatz on the enemy.

 kronk wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

It looks like the forge world chaos war hound titan

Yeah, we're talking about the tank that shoots at 1:04.

I'm aware that there is a Warhound Titan in there, though. I have assembled and painted one, and after spending 3 months on it, I can spot it fairly easily!

I thought it was a vindicator. The barrel looked a bit like a demolisher's.

prowla wrote:

orkybenji wrote:
I like these. They have an old-school charm to them. For those of you complaining about the speakers on the Master of Marches: this is 40k, where noise marines, jokaero, and orks exist

With these models combined with the DA DJ-speeder, you soon can have your whole army dropping Emperor's righteous beatz on the enemy.

 Enigwolf wrote:
"Send everything". Yay. Does this mean no staggered release wave?

That's one way of dealing with Third Party sellers like Chapterhouse


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 Nevelon wrote:
(Cutting parts of your post to focus on those two lines)

The bolded bit got my thinking, how would these guys do with a black paint job and possible weapon swap to something more crozius-like? Maybe a skull-helmet? They may be a little "meh" as captains, but they might make better chaplains...

The Master of Marches might be a decent base for an Inquisitor conversion too. Just change the torso and head to something less typically Astartes and it looks like he is passing judgement on a heretic

 Ctan_Overlord wrote:
Next teaser is up:

I really liked that teaser. I hope they do more like it.