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Theres no stoppin what cant be stopped, no killin what cant be killed.

If you have access to UK TV Channel 4 are showing Predators tomorrow night. For me there are 3 must sees Alien, Aliens and Predator. Then there is Alien 3, Predators and Predator 2 overall decent films but flawed in places. The directors/extended cuts are better than the theatrical releases. After that we have Alien Resurrection and the AvP films they're still watchable and I've seen them many times each has the odd stand out scene but really they aren't a patch on the original films. I still think there's a really good AvP film that can be made but the 2 things that have spoilt them so far is the need to keep them on Earth to keep the budget down and the need to have humans very involved so we have more of a connection to the film - I wish someone had the guts to do an AvP film with minimal humans in it but tha's not going to happen.

 RiTides wrote:
So, with that said, what is your recommended viewing order for me to catch up on this?

And even more importantly, what is the terrible one (ones?) that people seem to want to blot from their memories, that I will probably skip?

Watch Alien, Aliens and Predator. Alien3 makes Aliens less enjoyable by association - people who have watched it will know why - but it would have been good if not for that. Alien Resurrection is enjoyable in its own way, but really doesn't feel like an Alien movie. Prometheus is crap. AvP lacks the Aliens vs. Predator vs. Colonial Marines situation that should have been a prerequisite for an AvP movie.

Oh lol reading the KS comments and I see there following the CMON school of customer service. Snide and sarcastic comments to backers with some backhanded insults to mantic mixed in as well.

Taken from KS

Mark from Prodos (most likely using the account) is a very nice guy but lacks tact and guile sometimes. He says it the way it is which rubs some people the wrong way and may not be the best approach. He is however a really nice guy and will typically answer any questions you may have.

Sounds like maybe Rob should be the one responding to the KS comments, these guys are clearly emotionally involved with the project and have trouble keeping a professional demeanor.

I didn't see anything out of line with the comments, was it hidden in the updates comments? Seems OK to me so far...

 AlexHolker wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
So, with that said, what is your recommended viewing order for me to catch up on this?

And even more importantly, what is the terrible one (ones?) that people seem to want to blot from their memories, that I will probably skip?

Watch Alien, Aliens and Predator. Alien3 makes Aliens less enjoyable by association - people who have watched it will know why - but it would have been good if not for that. Alien Resurrection is enjoyable in its own way, but really doesn't feel like an Alien movie. Prometheus is crap. AvP lacks the Aliens vs. Predator vs. Colonial Marines situation that should have been a prerequisite for an AvP movie.

So what does it mean that I liked Prometheus, then

 AlexHolker wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
So, with that said, what is your recommended viewing order for me to catch up on this?

And even more importantly, what is the terrible one (ones?) that people seem to want to blot from their memories, that I will probably skip?

Watch Alien, Aliens and Predator. Alien3 makes Aliens less enjoyable by association - people who have watched it will know why - but it would have been good if not for that. Alien Resurrection is enjoyable in its own way, but really doesn't feel like an Alien movie. Prometheus is crap. AvP lacks the Aliens vs. Predator vs. Colonial Marines situation that should have been a prerequisite for an AvP movie.

I'm going to stand up for Prometheus. Perhaps because I didn't see it until it was released on disc, and despite my best attempts had picked up one or two snippets about why people had issues with it, I went in with an open mind and low expectations, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sometimes expectations can really spoil one's enjoyment of a movie, and I can see how more hardcore fans than I who had been waiting for this movie for years would have been left disappointed.

 RiTides wrote:
So what does it mean that I liked Prometheus, then

I like Colonial Marines myself, nobody is infallible.

 azreal13 wrote:
I'm going to stand up for Prometheus. Perhaps because I didn't see it until it was released on disc, and despite my best attempts had picked up one or two snippets about why people had issues with it, I went in with an open mind and low expectations, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sometimes expectations can really spoil one's enjoyment of a movie, and I can see how more hardcore fans than I who had been waiting for this movie for years would have been left disappointed.

...and also maybe why someone with an uncluttered mind, such as myself, could enjoy it knowing nothing about the previous ones

Will see if I still think it's worthwhile after viewing the first ones!

 RiTides wrote:
I didn't see anything out of line with the comments, was it hidden in the updates comments? Seems OK to me so far...

Some tiffs in the first update comments.

What I really like about Prometheus is that whenever I see one of the Navigators alongside a regular human, I can't help but think, "Now that's an unarmoured space marine!"

Also, less than a thousand quid away from a free face full of alien wing-wong.

 RiTides wrote:
Guys, thanks VERY much for the tips on what to watch, I'll try to get started on it this weekend

Going to prioritize:

Predator, Predators
Alien, Aliens

Predators getting in thanks to Hulk's and others' recommendation . Apparently no one like "Predator 2", I don't see that recommended anywhere

If I'm still going strong after these, I'll try Aliens 3

I would say that those are 4 gooood movies. I liked pred 2 a lot, mostly because Danny glover. But please make room for alien 3. I love that film, such a great ending to what was originally a trilogy... and it had the coolest poster.

 RiTides wrote:
So what does it mean that I liked Prometheus, then

 azreal13 wrote:
I'm going to stand up for Prometheus. Perhaps because I didn't see it until it was released on disc, and despite my best attempts had picked up one or two snippets about why people had issues with it, I went in with an open mind and low expectations, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sometimes expectations can really spoil one's enjoyment of a movie, and I can see how more hardcore fans than I who had been waiting for this movie for years would have been left disappointed.

I expect a certain amount of competence from the protagonists. Falling prey to understandable character flaws* or being blindsided by an Outside Context Problem* is fine, but being a complete imbecile* is not.

*

 BrookM wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
So what does it mean that I liked Prometheus, then

I like Colonial Marines myself, nobody is infallible.

Ew ew ew ewwwwwww



I liked Prometheus too, actually. Parts of it didn't make sense, but parts of it were great, and Fassbender killed it (or...caused it to mutate horribly, or what have you).

There's a script that's supposedly the original draft floating around - Aliens: Engineers. Overall it looks much better than what made it to the screen (so many problems are solved by making the redshirts, errr, supporting cast cranky space miners instead of the world's top scientists) . The one problem is that David does a 180 from an interesting character with human emotions and inhuman values to Generic Evil Robot #4078. If only we could have had both...

 alanmckenzie wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Guys, thanks VERY much for the tips on what to watch, I'll try to get started on it this weekend

Going to prioritize:

Predator, Predators
Alien, Aliens

Predators getting in thanks to Hulk's and others' recommendation . Apparently no one like "Predator 2", I don't see that recommended anywhere

If I'm still going strong after these, I'll try Aliens 3

I would say that those are 4 gooood movies. I liked pred 2 a lot, mostly because Danny glover. But please make room for alien 3. I love that film, such a great ending to what was originally a trilogy... and it had the coolest poster.

Really???? Danny Glover? In what world does a guy like danny glover do what jessie ventrua, carl weathers, and the big indian dude could not? It took arnie to near death before he killed it and danny glover survived? Shenanigans

Okay chaps, let's not get too far afield. Some discussion of the movies is definitely on-topic and encouraged. This is a big moment for the fans after all! But if anyone wants to extensively debate the merits of the movies qua cinema, please start a thread in the OT Forum and be sure to link it here. Thanks!

Back on topic, the free face huggers have now been unlocked! Get ready for wing-wong to the face!

 BrookM wrote:
Get ready for wing-wong to the face!

I'm very glad Prodos took the hint and decided to upgrade the core box (or maybe planned it all along). I hope some eggs also make it into the box!

In LA world.


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Back on topic.

More upgrades are definitely good.

Looking forward to sneaking those guys through tiny crawlspaces and the like, waiting for the opportune moment to pounce on some poor frakker...

 Manchu wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Get ready for wing-wong to the face!

I'm very glad Prodos took the hint and decided to upgrade the core box (or maybe planned it all along). I hope some eggs also make it into the box!

Agreed, they'd make for fine terrain, objective markers and general points of interest to investigate for Wey-Yu goons.

Speaking of W-Y, I wonder if the "medical" androids are sleeper combat units:

Ok can someone give me the idiots guide to kick starting?

Never backed one before, I fancied this one, then kind of went cold on it. Now I'm getting swept along with all the recent hype in this thread.

Yeah, those things were nasty in that second AVP game from years ago.

With the 85K goal down, hopefully we'll get a preview pic of the Alien Warriors listed at 100K, as we did for the other stretch goals

After that is the Predator Hellhound, which I'm equally excited to see a model of, after googling what it looked like! I could use that for all sorts of things...

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Looks like the increasing number of face huggers isn't a typo after all.

Thanks for that, BrookM. Also an interesting comment from Prodos:

Prodos wrote:@Rick, Prodos Games is the solo license holder for Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, AvP, Predator, Predator 2 and Predators Miniatures. We as a license holder have nothing to do with the indigogo campaign.
@Anthony, the game play video will be up soon.
and something special is on its way with a £100k stretch goal ;]

Eldercaveman wrote:
Ok can someone give me the idiots guide to kick starting?

Never backed one before, I fancied this one, then kind of went cold on it. Now I'm getting swept along with all the recent hype in this thread.

You just go to the page and select the amount of money you would like to pledge. For example, if you pick "Pledge £75 or more" you will just get the base game, the next one down is the game plus £60 that you can spend on add-on items.

When you select your pledge Kickstarter will take you to the billing screen where you put in all your info, but you won't be charged until the campaign ends.

After the campaign is over, they will set up a Pledge Manager web page and you can use that to finalize your order and purchase add-on items with your extra add-on credit if you picked a higher pledge. Then they make the game and ship it to you when it's done

Update 3 - http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/513277403/alien-vs-predator-the-miniatures-game/posts/656137

So not only have we unlocked the Facehuggers in every Game set....but now the next Stretch includes a big extra:

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Aw yis, really digging the next unlock, looking forward to my free USCM sergeant!

Now that's nifty.

So the question is...do I go for the free squad, or get the sergeant so the odd cost doesn't mess up my total? Choices, choices...