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We are planning to do a plastic character pack with the shaman having a spider familiar as in the pic. We also will be making a dungeon vermin line with giant rats, spiders etc.

The artwork is amazing, and reminds me very much of artwork by Tony DiTerlizzi (most famous for the Spiderwick books) with a bit of Chris Ridell thrown in. Its a style I like very much indeed, so I'll be following this.

Thanks... We have the mega talented Gollorr doing all our art. He has some awesome stuff on his deviant art account. Worth checking out. We have a load of concept art coming of the zombies next so should be cool!

The concept art for the zombies should be ready soon but I would like to hear some opinions on what people would like to see. Our concept so far is to have the Zombie Gravewalkers, your traditional zombie as it were but with a difference. We wanted to show an insanity in all their faces due to their unnatural resurrection. They will all look mad! They will also be modified for war with ancient armour from old crypts and tombs. Because these guys are expendable the necromancersand their henchman do not spend too much time and effort on these guys. As the leather armour straps have rotted away the armour is nailed to their bones. As they are too stupid to be trusted to hold a blade the weapons are
stuck into their arm stumps or riveted into their flesh.

The Flesh Flesh Golems are hideous creatures made entirely from the corpses of large creatures with appendages sewn on to make them more potent in combat. These guys are generally 7 foot giants. Think Frankenstein's monster brought to life by Clive Barker and you will be halfway there.

Zombie Hulks are huge rotten carcasses of a long unrecognisable creature. Much like Golems they are adapted for war. Extra limbs add to their huge bulk. We have gone for a stinking corpse theme with all three with lots guts and entrails to make them truly disgusting!

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Sounds awesome, and a very unique take on Zombies, more Frankenstein that usual which is pretty cool. The idea of zombies as 'machines' of a sort, built for certain things is nice as well and again, outside the norm.

The art looks good, and the undead concepts all sound good as well.

If I can make a suggestion - typical art (and models) for undead tend to festoon them in skulls and bones and such on their armour.

Unless they come from a culture of undead filled with active artisans - or from a culture that used to revere images of death on all of it's troops (Totenkopf to the power of 10!) - or the Necromantic magic that animated them also magically changed their eagles and lions and ravens into skeletons and bones - then despite how much of a trope it's become, it doesn't actually make any sense in context.

If you're raising an army of the undead from where they fell on a long-forgotten battlefield, etc, they would have the decayed remnants of what they wore as living soldiers. And so probably not festooned in bones and skull totems...

I couldn't agree more. We are going to go for a bone armour idea for the necromancers as they are able to control it to an extent. However nothing will be festooned with skulls. These guys are a bit more practical than that! A dead bloke with bolted on metal for more effectiveness in combat. Simple as that! There will be no decorated zombies here apart from maybe a evil sigil or two to show they have been magically raised.

Kaine Larson wrote:
Any suggestions would be appreciated!

I won't be buying them either way so feel free to ignore what I say, but I don't think the two opposing types of zombie mesh very well. The Frankenstein's monster angle certainly seems to be more popular, and it hasn't been run into the bloody ground like the rotting corpse angle has. I would abandon the stinking corpse theme and stick with fresh or preserved corpses - the sort that you could actually physically stitch together without it all falling apart.

Personally not of fan of the guts and junk hanging out.

Do like the idea of stitched together monstrosities however.

My problem is I've never been a big fan of undead in general.

I won't pass judgement until I've at least gotten to see what you have in mind.

I on the other hand am a huge fan of the undead stuff. I like the sound of both the stitched together and the rotting messes. If the stitched together guys look even remotely like the Flesh Golem Reaper made, I think I could be very happy with those.

I'm a big fan of the zombies with stuff nailed onto them so they won't drop it concept.

They are expendable and equipped accordingly. I like it. It's a level of fantasy world practical you don't normally see.

Ok... I know its been a while. Sculptors are still sculpting so no greens for you to see just yet... however the first concept art for the Zombie abominations has been done.

This is the basic zombie warrior...the Zombie Gravewalker! They are the point and release homing missiles of the undead world. They are created by their masters and ressurected using unholy, daemonic magic. The unwilling corpse is bought back to unlife with the soul of its former master still trapped inside with no ability to control what it does. This terrible act causes the soul of the creature to go insane! As the zombie form has no actual mind and attacks only through instinct it has no ability to hold and use weapons, therefore its weapons are and armour are bolted directly to its bones!



We will have more zombie abominations for you shortly including the Flesh Golem, Zombie Hulk, the Necromancer and the Liche Priest!

That looks great! Just how I imagined it from the description, and rather more dynamic than your run-of-the-mill shambling corpses.

I'm pleased you like it...the others are really cool to. Our artist hit the mark exactly with these. We wanted to get a certain amount of insanity behind their eyes!


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We have also updated the colour artwork....the magic effect looks cooler now!

Kaine Larson wrote:
This is the basic zombie warrior...the Zombie Gravewalker! They are the point and release homing missiles of the undead world. They are created by their masters and ressurected using unholy, daemonic magic. The unwilling corpse is bought back to unlife with the soul of its former master still trapped inside with no ability to control what it does. This terrible act causes the soul of the creature to go insane! As the zombie form has no actual mind and attacks only through instinct it has no ability to hold and use weapons, therefore its weapons are and armour are bolted directly to its bones!

The flavour text feels like you're trying too hard to be edgy. You state that the fate of the soul is irrelevant to the behaviour of the zombie, so saying it's trapped and insane is just grimderp for the sake of grimderp.

I wish I knew what grimderp meant...I think I am too old to understand...

Kaine Larson wrote:
I wish I knew what grimderp meant...I think I am too old to understand...

He's trying to show his disdain for 'grimdark', the often over the top atmosphere most associated with Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle.

You should generally feel free ignore anyone that crafts their criticism using internet slang.
I think that the fact that your zombies are ressurected with the soul trapped inside is a relevant differentiator for your zombies, and the art looks great of course.

Many thanks! I am nearer 40 than 30. Such things go over my head!! Resurrecting the dead and having them fight for you is pretty dark anyway I would thought...

I just discovered you guys- I'm loving it. I'll wait for your kickstarter eagerly.

 plastictrees wrote:
He's trying to show his disdain for 'grimdark', the often over the top atmosphere most associated with Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle.

I am showing my disdain for poorly done grimdark. This is the lowliest of the undead, and you've already got two different bits of pathos that each diminishes the other.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
He's trying to show his disdain for 'grimdark', the often over the top atmosphere most associated with Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle.

I am showing my disdain for poorly done grimdark. This is the lowliest of the undead, and you've already got two different bits of pathos that each diminishes the other.

People may take your arguments more seriously Alex, if you didn't sink your talons into the most inane, petty details, then proceed to spew like you do for pages on end.

I like the concept. Im excited to see what these guys put out.

Seems like a nice undead addition if that's your thing.

I do like the idea of bolting and strapping all their gear on. Hoping we see at least one figure with stuff nailed to his head, at least as an optional part.

Oh I think we can manage that!

This is the basic zombie warrior...the Zombie Gravewalker! They are the point and release homing missiles of the undead world. They are created by their masters and ressurected using unholy, daemonic magic. The unwilling corpse is bought back to unlife with the soul of its former master still trapped inside which allows it to still qualify for a prime rate mortgage!

Made some changes to the existing lore for Alex.

Do we have a timeline on the crowdfunding campaign?

I pretty much had to pick between Sci-Fi and Fantasy to make my budget work, and fantasy is out for me.

That said, these are the best goblin concepts I've ever seen. I also like the undead concept.

I wish you tremendous success with this.

And then I want to see you build on that success and launch an equivalent Sci-Fi kickstarter, using the same concept artist.

Kaine Larson wrote:
Ok... I know its been a while. Sculptors are still sculpting so no greens for you to see just yet... however the first concept art for the Zombie abominations has been done.

This is the basic zombie warrior...the Zombie Gravewalker! They are the point and release homing missiles of the undead world. They are created by their masters and ressurected using unholy, daemonic magic. The unwilling corpse is bought back to unlife with the soul of its former master still trapped inside with no ability to control what it does. This terrible act causes the soul of the creature to go insane! As the zombie form has no actual mind and attacks only through instinct it has no ability to hold and use weapons, therefore its weapons are and armour are bolted directly to its bones!



We will have more zombie abominations for you shortly including the Flesh Golem, Zombie Hulk, the Necromancer and the Liche Priest!

Okay, I take back everything I said earlier in the thread about not having anything that is catching my interest. THAT is exactly the kind of undead I've been wanting for YEARS! Why does nobody else produce armored zombies? Instead, everyone always either has them naked or wearing rags. If the rest of the undead come out like this guy, I'm backing this all the way.

My one question though, why do necromancers never put helmets on their zombies? Their heads are their weak points. You'd think they'd want to cover it up at least a little bit.

 Barzam wrote:

My one question though, why do necromancers never put helmets on their zombies? Their heads are their weak points. You'd think they'd want to cover it up at least a little bit.

That's why I said they have to have a head with stuff bolted on to it.

Plates around the neck, ropes tied to the head and shoulder pads to keep it in place, helmets nailed on... you know I don't even like undead very much but I could pick a few up like that.

Just remember how your undead fared against my reptilian forces last time!

 Barzam wrote:


My one question though, why do necromancers never put helmets on their zombies? Their heads are their weak points. You'd think they'd want to cover it up at least a little bit.

Because everyone knows the Zombies are the Bad Guys, and that headshots are double points. It's so the good guys can kill them easier.

That said, some helmets or even bolted on plates would be cool. The recoloured artwork is great too!

I'm pleased you guys like them. We are probably going to have many head options available on the plastics frame and we may even release some additional heads in resin at a later date. Hopefully I should have the flesh golem soon.

Kaine Larson wrote:
I'm pleased you guys like them. We are probably going to have many head options available on the plastics frame and we may even release some additional heads in resin at a later date. Hopefully I should have the flesh golem soon.

I suppose your work isn't bad, but until I see actual minions I just can't be interested in your product sorry.