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That Word Bearer pic kinda says to me, early days Dark Apostle marine.

No Knights for the Chaos book is disappointing to say the least.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This new FW books sounds interesting.

Agreed!

Went to the FW seminar at Warhammer Fest today, tidbits I picked up:
1) One of the SM flyers is going to be a big beast apparently, not sure if it'll be the stormbird
2) HH 4 includes a full Knight list (Questorus) completely different structure to the 40k Knight codex
3) One of the Primarchs from HH3 will be after Cruze and they hadn't decided which
4) They have a remanments list ready to go but it missed HH 4, either available as a free download or in HH 5
5) Dark Mechanicum will focus on the leaders falling first ahead of the elites then troops in subsequent books
6) UM are getting a lot of unique units and two types of elite "guard", an army within an army was how it was described
7) New dread is BIGGER than the contemptor

IA13:
Units;
Predator
Infernal Relic Predator
Vindicator
Relic Sicaran
LR
LR Proteus
Infernal LR Achiles - evil thing, +1S -1AP for each HP it loses on the mortar
Rhino
Fellblade
Typhon
Spartan
Storm Eagle
Fire Raptor
Thunderhawk
Hell Blade
Hell Talon
Dreadclaw
Kharybdis
Infernus Dread
Sonic Dread
Chaos Contemptor
Machina Daemonica
Greater Scorp
Bloog Slaughter
Rapier
Decimator
Blight Drones
Plague Hulk
Reaver
Warhound

Full Renegades List, all four marks of Chaos as options in one unified list, really customisable, lots of options, unit types and some new stuff - e.g., brutes. No SM in the list, no Zufor or other named Vraks characters. Removed limits over tanks from Vraks.

Edit: The FW Greater Demons and the Vraks named Demon Princes are in the back of the book with Chaos Spawn and the Chaos Beasts.

Can't wait to see the UM models during the HH they're one of my favourite legions.

 Looky Likey wrote:

3) One of the Primarchs from HH3 will be after Cruze and they hadn't decided which

So that's Dorn, Corax, Alpharius and Perturabo, right?

My bet is on Corax, just because it seems like a very FW thing to do to release both the jump models back to back. Then again, they seem like they are really pushing Imperial Fist stuff with the releases right now. Still, I imagine they'll do Dorn and Perturabo alongside upgrade kits of some kind for their super heavy vehicle transports.

I can't wait for the Alpharius model. They've done an excellent job sculpting the kits to match the faces and sketches of the characters as shown in the books.
I mean good god this guy is going to be so bad-ass.

That's also interesting about the Ultramarines. Think it'll be something along the lines of 30k Sternguard/Vanguard?

Forgot that ia14 will be tau.

 Looky Likey wrote:
Forgot that ia14 will be tau.

Is it? sweet . might tempt me back into the dolphin headed hoof men.


anyone get any more info on the new IA book?

particularly the raptor, sicaran and the traitor guard.

There are a few of the HH units in IA13 - under 'relics' - Kharybdis and Fellblade were mentioned. I'm sure Looky will confirm...
Other bits that piqued my interest:
Word Bearers will have factional variants dependent on the chapter - the voiceless were one, I can't remember the other sorry!
Next HH book will contain:
Sons of Horus
Death Guard
Fragments of Salamanders, Iron Hands and Raven Guard
Mechanicum
Dark Mechanicum
Solar Auxilia
Knightly Houses
Will concentrate on 4 main 'conflicts' with a campaign threading them together
The book is the biggest yet - and had to be trimmed (the extra stuff may make itself into the next book or online)
Knights will be different to houses in 40k - specific 30k houses were mentioned
Solar work totally different to IG - expect lots for these!
Prospero is a good while off - it's a massive task that will be split over several books (as will Calth), as it needs at least 4 brand new lists (Wolves are totally different to their 40k brethren for instance)
At this point in the HH thread, both flavours of Mechanicum are alike - daemon engines are a bit further off...
Talking of Daemons - Alan Bligh said to expect not only different daemons, but more of them...

Nice that Tau are getting some more Super heavy love. WIsh that they would give some love the the Dark Eldar as they only have two Forge World models to their name.

Hmm, I was kinda hoping for Tau tanks or flyers rather than some giant battlesuit/titan thing...

I was hoping for Adepta Sororitas stuff or Sisters of SIlence myself..............

Well, the Sisters of Silence will probably come when FW does the HH book on Prospero...

Prospero split into 7 books!! I do hope they a compile everything a few books of sorts because that is going to be a whole lot of books for the whole HH series.

Here's some pics I took at Warhammer Fest today. More on my blog.

Castus and I went to Warhammer Fest today; enjoyed the Forge World Seminar, demo pods, chatting with some of the GW/FW teams and ogling at the Golden Demon entries

Here are some pics…

Games Workshop display













Forge World display (I should have taken more pics of the display boards, they were awesome!)









And some lovely Golden Demon entries:






































And there was this guy

 SRSFACE wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:

So, I've seen a couple people mention "Word Bearer" for this guy. And that's probably what he is with all the inscriptions all across the armor.

But part of me wants to say it's a Thousand Sons unit. Remember pre-heresy they were red and silver, as well.

I'm sure it's word bearer. I read "know no fear", I recall some of the Ultramarines mentioning a change in aesthetic design of the word bearer armor. And also the obvious, battle of calth was UM vs WBs

Yep it is a Word Bearer - they confirmed that in the seminar today

Great - can we now please move on from this 'mystery'?!?

Alpharius, I had the same reaction when hearing about the Stormhammer

I'm going to say Furibundus or Lucifer for the new dreadnought. The Lucius is supposed to be a less advanced precursor to the Contemptor according to fluff in the HH books, that relies purely on heavy front army as opposed to advanced shielding for protection, so for a dread that is larger than a Contemptor, it could be that. I have no idea as to how a Furibundus would look though. Hopefully it isn't just another mark of Castraferrum.

Yeah, here's my takeaways from Warhammer Fest

- Generally the whole thing was a bit sparse and crappy, but...

- Asked Alan Bligh about Chaos Knights. He said that it's 'almost inevitable' that they'll do them at some point, but they haven't had the meeting to decide what/when. Looks like they're going to happen at some point, though.

- Spoke to Will Hayes about dreadnoughts and stuff. I mentioned how the new Mechanicum Automata reminded me a bit of the old Space Crusade Dreads, and he said that actually they may be using those old Space Crusade Dreads as inspiration for an upcoming project.

- And half an hour later, Tony Cottrell states in the FW seminar that they have a new sort of dread to be released, bigger than the Contemptor. COULD THERE BE A CONNECTION????

- One of the new SM Flyers is meant to be REALLY BIG. I asked if this meant 'bigger than a Thunderhawk' and Tony refused to answer.


Also, got IA13. Interesting R&H list.

- Lots of sub-guard troops with random Ld, and more varied weapons and options. Generally, infantry squads can be 20 models strong, with one special per 5 models and one heavy per unit, and models can shoos between lasguns, shotguns, and melee weapons. Mutant bands, Veterans, Disciples (with Marks), etc are broadly the same with occasional stat and special rule change. All units are WS/BS2 but have the option to upgrade for points. This is usually a single point cost per unit, so becomes better value in big units.

- No orders, but you can give your Demagogue various specialisms (like Consuls in Crusade armies). These allow access to special weapons, units, and abilities. For example, one allows you to include hotshot-wielding stormtroopers, and the Heretek one allows Defilers, Decimators, and the option to give every unit FnP.

- Demagogues can also take pseudo-Marks, allowing them to include Plague Drones, Blood Slaughterers, Noise Marines etc in the army.

- Ogryns are insane. Up to ten in a unit, plus six Chaos Hounds. D6 random attacks and Rampage (so +D3 if outnumbered) with the option to take marks. However, 60 points per model!

- While Hell Blades and Talons are in the book, they're not available to a R&H army! Which is weird, as they are piloted by BS3 humans, not Marines. The only R&H Flyers are Arvus Lighters and Valkyries.

Might be a chapter/legion serf piloting the aircraft. In which case it could make them BS4?

Argh - random Ld. The one thing I really hated about the Vraks lists.
Going to my corner to sulk now. :(

I think the new flyer will be a Stormbird

 LutherMax wrote:
I think the new flyer will be a Stormbird

it better be.....i need one badly

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

 LutherMax wrote:
I think the new flyer will be a Stormbird

it better be.....i need one badly

You will have to mortgage a house to afford a Stormbird.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

 LutherMax wrote:
I think the new flyer will be a Stormbird

it better be.....i need one badly

You will have to mortgage a house to afford a Stormbird.

naw, i tend to make enough money to buy two FW manta's a month

That ork jetbike

 Malika2 wrote:
Hmm, I was kinda hoping for Tau tanks or flyers rather than some giant battlesuit/titan thing...

hey just said there will be new non-flyer Tau SHs. We can't assume they WILL be battlesuits/titan.

 JB wrote:
Imperial Fist shoulder pads! Finally!

Now they just have to get them on the website so that I can buy them before Kronk.

Kronk will kick your butt!

Also, F'ing finally! *Credit card in hand. counting. waiting. Refresh...Refresh... Refresh...*

 ArbitorIan wrote:
Yeah, here's my takeaways from Warhammer Fest

- Generally the whole thing was a bit sparse and crappy, but...

- Asked Alan Bligh about Chaos Knights. He said that it's 'almost inevitable' that they'll do them at some point, but they haven't had the meeting to decide what/when. Looks like they're going to happen at some point, though.

- Spoke to Will Hayes about dreadnoughts and stuff. I mentioned how the new Mechanicum Automata reminded me a bit of the old Space Crusade Dreads, and he said that actually they may be using those old Space Crusade Dreads as inspiration for an upcoming project.

- And half an hour later, Tony Cottrell states in the FW seminar that they have a new sort of dread to be released, bigger than the Contemptor. COULD THERE BE A CONNECTION????

- One of the new SM Flyers is meant to be REALLY BIG. I asked if this meant 'bigger than a Thunderhawk' and Tony refused to answer.


Also, got IA13. Interesting R&H list.

- Lots of sub-guard troops with random Ld, and more varied weapons and options. Generally, infantry squads can be 20 models strong, with one special per 5 models and one heavy per unit, and models can shoos between lasguns, shotguns, and melee weapons. Mutant bands, Veterans, Disciples (with Marks), etc are broadly the same with occasional stat and special rule change. All units are WS/BS2 but have the option to upgrade for points. This is usually a single point cost per unit, so becomes better value in big units.

- No orders, but you can give your Demagogue various specialisms (like Consuls in Crusade armies). These allow access to special weapons, units, and abilities. For example, one allows you to include hotshot-wielding stormtroopers, and the Heretek one allows Defilers, Decimators, and the option to give every unit FnP.

- Demagogues can also take pseudo-Marks, allowing them to include Plague Drones, Blood Slaughterers, Noise Marines etc in the army.

- Ogryns are insane. Up to ten in a unit, plus six Chaos Hounds. D6 random attacks and Rampage (so +D3 if outnumbered) with the option to take marks. However, 60 points per model!

- While Hell Blades and Talons are in the book, they're not available to a R&H army! Which is weird, as they are piloted by BS3 humans, not Marines. The only R&H Flyers are Arvus Lighters and Valkyries.

What does R&H stand for?

 Quarterdime wrote:
What does R&H stand for?

Renegades and Heretics?