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Just when I thought I couldn't hate the Word Bearers any more than I already do now...

 Alpharius wrote:
Just when I thought I couldn't hate the Word Bearers any more than I already do now...

Because they get cool looking stuff like gal vorbak? Don't worry, even the night lords can't compare to the fancy hats the alpha legion gets!

I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Right even more motivation to do the first believers and do a small wb army to add to my dg.

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

I thought the Thousand Sons participated in the Battle of Terra?

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

I suspect that just like with the gal vorbak that the contemptor shown will be a special low (soul) price introductory offer act now! type of deal where they get more power as well as autonomy compared with later discount "possessed" in order to lure them over to the dark side.

I'd really like for all the basic Legion stuff to be out. The Gal Vorbak are great but I don't see why they'd have a Dreadnought version this early in the Heresy. Considering most of them die battling Custodes and then the rest die on Calth(?).

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

I thought the Thousand Sons participated in the Battle of Terra?

They did.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I'd really like for all the basic Legion stuff to be out. The Gal Vorbak are great but I don't see why they'd have a Dreadnought version this early in the Heresy. Considering most of them die battling Custodes and then the rest die on Calth(?).

I don't think they all died on Calth, Argel Tal wasn't on Calth and from what I know he was the leader of the Gal Vorbak. Though I agree with what you're saying especially considering the Gal Vorbak had to ritualistic scar themselves to become one, how can a dreadnaught scar himself?

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Where are you getting those numbers? the smallest legion was the raven guard pre istvaan and they were 80k plus.

 Formosa wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Where are you getting those numbers? the smallest legion was the raven guard pre istvaan and they were 80k plus.

I think he's thinking of post rubric. After the Rubric of Ahriman the number of "living" Thousand Sons was said to reflect their name.

No doubt that that's a possessed Word Bearers Contemptor. The book on the shoulder and the runes all over the torso are a dead giveaway.

At least it's not just the basic Contemptor chassis with a new head/resin bits molded to the front like all the other Contemptors. It is more refreshing and new than the constant Contemptors we've been getting. I just hope they have more to show us at the HH Weekender than more Dreadnoughts.

I hope they've scrapped the Prospero book and are instead releasing Horus Heresy: Contemptors.

You could fuel a whole city on that nerd rage

 carabine wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Where are you getting those numbers? the smallest legion was the raven guard pre istvaan and they were 80k plus.

I think he's thinking of post rubric. After the Rubric of Ahriman the number of "living" Thousand Sons was said to reflect their name.

No I'm using the only quoted number for the thousand sons. After the battle of Prospero only 1200 marines survived and ahriman said that was just a tenth of the legion which puts the entire thousand sons at around 10k. They were already incredibly small due to being almost wiped out.

Sure they were at battle of terra but that doesn't mean they had any resources after Prospero.

 Kirasu wrote:

 carabine wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Where are you getting those numbers? the smallest legion was the raven guard pre istvaan and they were 80k plus.

I think he's thinking of post rubric. After the Rubric of Ahriman the number of "living" Thousand Sons was said to reflect their name.

No I'm using the only quoted number for the thousand sons. After the battle of Prospero only 1200 marines survived and ahriman said that was just a tenth of the legion which puts the entire thousand sons at around 10k. They were already incredibly small due to being almost wiped out.

Sure they were at battle of terra but that doesn't mean they had any resources after Prospero.

But WHERE is that quote from? I've never seen that listed anywhere.

 Kirasu wrote:

 carabine wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Where are you getting those numbers? the smallest legion was the raven guard pre istvaan and they were 80k plus.

I think he's thinking of post rubric. After the Rubric of Ahriman the number of "living" Thousand Sons was said to reflect their name.

No I'm using the only quoted number for the thousand sons. After the battle of Prospero only 1200 marines survived and ahriman said that was just a tenth of the legion which puts the entire thousand sons at around 10k. They were already incredibly small due to being almost wiped out.

Sure they were at battle of terra but that doesn't mean they had any resources after Prospero.

That'll probably change in the FW book, as they stated in Extermination that after the Battle of Gate 42, the Raven Guard are the smallest legion with 80,000 marines.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope they've scrapped the Prospero book and are instead releasing Horus Heresy: Contemptors.

Codex: Contemptor Kingdoms

Just a whole book of 'em.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I hope they've scrapped the Prospero book and are instead releasing Horus Heresy: Contemptors.

Codex: Contemptor Kingdoms

Just a whole book of 'em.

I'd buy it. Considering how well FW did on the Imperial Knight list, an all Contemptor army could be cool.

Contemptors were the 2 legion

Any guesses on the 11th legion

Is that a Horus Heresy: The Fall of Calth book behind him? If so color me excited for that book!

 primalexile wrote:
Is that a Horus Heresy: The Fall of Calth book behind him? If so color me excited for that book!

Fall of Orpheus. You'll notice the HH books nearby. They have different graphics on their spines to regular IA books.

 Theophony wrote:
Contemptors were the 2 legion

Any guesses on the 11th legion

Isn't it obvious?

The 11th Legion were...Contemptors!

All kidding aside, I can't believe FW is already into Possessed Contemptors!

OK, actually, I can.

They still gotta do the Chaosified versions of the 40K contemptors, i mean, a Contemptor dedicated to Slaanesh has it have boobs or at least one, doesn't it??

Just a single boob, replacing its head.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just a single boob, replacing its head.

Boob mounted guns?

Skaven stole that concept.

 Formosa wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I doubt the horus heresy is going to have more corrupted dreadnoughts.. certainly not for each legion. It's not like many were chaos-corrupted until they were in the warp for awhile.

even so, you'd only have 8.. The thousand sons didn't take place in the heresy after Prospero (and only had 1200 marines left with nothing else)

Where are you getting those numbers? the smallest legion was the raven guard pre istvaan and they were 80k plus.

The Thousand Sons were the smallest legion. According to the novel Thousand Sons, the Sons had about 10,000 legionaries. Ahriman remarks at the end of the novel that only ~1000 of them survived the battle on Prospero.

Until GW contradict it. Again.

If they do, I hope it's by upping the numbers of everything. I've always hated the fact that the Legions, which are supposed to be completely autonomous and capable of conquering entire systems, are barely a fraction the size of modern day militaries.

I mean, the largest legion is the Ultramarines, who clock in at 250,000 men, whereas the US military alone has 3 million. "40K sucks at scale" doesn't even begin to express the problem with those figures. lol

 BlaxicanX wrote:
If they do, I hope it's by upping the numbers of everything. I've always hated the fact that the Legions, which are supposed to be completely autonomous and capable of conquering entire systems, are barely a fraction the size of modern day militaries.

I mean, the largest legion is the Ultramarines, who clock in at 250,000 men, whereas the US military alone has 3 million. "40K sucks at scale" doesn't even begin to express the problem with those figures. lol

They're super soldiers wearing armour that turns them into walking tanks. They don't need millions of members to conquer entire systems.

You want a direct 40K equivalent to modern day militaries? Try the Imperial Army/Guard.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
If they do, I hope it's by upping the numbers of everything. I've always hated the fact that the Legions, which are supposed to be completely autonomous and capable of conquering entire systems, are barely a fraction the size of modern day militaries.

I mean, the largest legion is the Ultramarines, who clock in at 250,000 men, whereas the US military alone has 3 million. "40K sucks at scale" doesn't even begin to express the problem with those figures. lol

They're super soldiers wearing armour that turns them into walking tanks. They don't need millions of members to conquer entire systems.

You want a direct 40K equivalent to modern day militaries? Try the Imperial Army/Guard.

Indeed and lets not forget the pants on head numbers of navy support and orbital bombardments