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namiel wrote:Throw a nurgle character on demonic mount (to fit in for a LOS save) ...
The daemonic mount is on a 50x50 base, which means he'll have to ride the side - plus he wouldn't be getting a LOS! roll due to mismatched unit type (Monstrous Cav vs Infantry) anyway. I find the single supporting attak and lack of a regen/ward save are disincentives for taking more than 5-7 of these things ... and deathstars for points denial purposes are boring
decker_cky wrote:I imagine he'll be joining many units of ungors in the near future, since he ranks correctly with them.
Smart. Best use of Gutrot I've heard yet, and has me interested in the character for the first time. Also: sad Spumey doesn't have the 'Armed to the Teef' rule like the 'Kings
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Festus anyone? Plus he gives them Poisoned attacks and he gets LoS since he's infantry too!
wrong base size. hes on a 25mm vs their 40mm. he doesnt rank up
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namiel wrote:Throw a nurgle character on demonic mount (to fit in for a LOS save) ...
The daemonic mount is on a 50x50 base, which means he'll have to ride the side - plus he wouldn't be getting a LOS! roll due to mismatched unit type (Monstrous Cav vs Infantry) anyway. I find the single supporting attak and lack of a regen/ward save are disincentives for taking more than 5-7 of these things ... and deathstars for points denial purposes are boring
decker_cky wrote:I imagine he'll be joining many units of ungors in the near future, since he ranks correctly with them.
Smart. Best use of Gutrot I've heard yet, and has me interested in the character for the first time. Also: sad Spumey doesn't have the 'Armed to the Teef' rule like the 'Kings
- Salvage
Festus anyone? Plus he gives them Poisoned attacks and he gets LoS since he's infantry too!
wrong base size. hes on a 25mm vs their 40mm. he doesnt rank up
Ranking up isn't too important. He's a wizard, so it's not like you want him jumping around. Sitting on the side minimizes attacks which you want.
If you want to make the list really nasty, and there's mixing of chaos books, then you can have Festus and a minotaur character with at least blackened plate in the unit. Bonus attacks to take advantage of that poison, the mino character can move around in the unit (but no look out sir), and the whole unit gains a 4++ against fire.
even if i don't have a WHFB army to use them in, the 5 nurgle spawn i need for my future CSM army just became MUCH cheaper and MUCH nicer with a little kit bashing. goes from £60 english to 36!!!!
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Buttlerthepug wrote: I think it's the fact the story is actually moving forward. Sure, background is great and all. I love all the fluff regarding the Warhammer Fantasy armies, but I also love seeing something new come to Fantasy. Not to mention that background fluff is still there. Unless you were playing an obscure army like Kislev (which didn't have a book anyways), then the End Times shouldn't have effected whatever your army includes.
All it does it move the story forward in order to make way for something new. Personally, I can't complain about that!
But surely all of that could have been provided with a similar multi-book-plus-new-shiny-models campaign centred around the multiple previous and barely explored "almost the end of everything but not quite" periods in Fantasy's history? I've never been a huge fan of interactive universes which are stories, rather than settings, there's too much danger of something exactly like this happening and having the story dictated to me rather than being free to create it myself.
My Tilean WHFB army is now "historical", as is my in-progress Kislevite Mordheim warband - the group I occasionally game with didn't actually play "Mordheim" as in the city, we used the rules for skirmish gaming in the "present" tied into our WHFRP campaign, on which subject; my Amethyst College mage character is now apparently dead and a Shade, because Nagash. My Priest of Morr is hardly likely to fair well given that Nagash has eaten/killed/replaced the Nehekaran God of the Underworld(given how often it's implied in the lore that all these different gods are aspects of the same entity I doubt Morr will be allowed to hang about interfering with the plans of GW's new favourite skeletal Lich-lord). That Priestess of Valaya model I've been working on on-and-off and writing Hired Sword rules for seems rather a waste of time now that particular Ancestor God is destroyed.
And that's just one book in, one book out of three or four and they've eradicated half a continent's worth of nations, over a dozen named-characters and gods, totally eliminated an entire Wind of Magic, and set up a storyline which will be completely ridiculously implausible if it doesn't result in the destruction of at least half the major cities and provinces of the Empire, most of Bretonnia, some substantial but as yet undetermined portion of all three flavours of Elves, and the complete disappearance of the entire Lizardmen faction. That just isn't recognisable as the Warhammer World to me any more.
I've been playing WFB since I think 5th edition (whatever it was in 1998 with Bretonnians and Lizardmen in the starter). Even back then you played with characters long dead. So for me characters being dead doesn't matter. Nations being gone don't matter. I can come up with a plethora of reasons a Tilean army might still exist in the game or a Kislevite one (they even give an out in the actual story for Kislevite armies still being abroad). Overall though I like it for a few reasons:
1) The story line is progressing. This is actually pretty cool. GW learned they couldn't leave it to customers to do it after Storm of Chaos so they are doing it themselves.
2) It feels epic. Unlike most Fantasy books/games it feels huge.
3) I love WFB and this is a spark that has increased, at least locally, talk and play of fantasy
4) The books are pretty
Pretty much it. I've got Dwarves, Lizardmen, O&G, and Ogres. Most of them in the 3k range. Does it suck that my Ancestor Goddess is gone? Yep. Does it suck that one of my factions might just vanish into the webway network and retreat to other worlds in the larger galaxy? Yep. But that's just fluff. And to me it's good fluff because things are changing. I can still play my Lizardmen as they "retreat" from the world or the bear the runes of Valaya in game. So far I haven't seen anything that limits me and only more options and stories opening up.
Just one guys opinion but to me it's pretty awesome.
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Festus anyone? Plus he gives them Poisoned attacks and he gets LoS since he's infantry too!
wrong base size. hes on a 25mm vs their 40mm. he doesnt rank up
And? Just stick him out on the end of the unit, take a unit champ in the unit so he can avoid challenges, and try your best to keep him out of combat. Now that Tomb kings and Vamps can ally and you can make what is effectively a 7th edition Gravestar unit, hopefully we can do the same because i can see myself investing in some beastmen stuff if the new rules allow for it like the poster above pointed out.
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Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
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CSM- 25,000+
Read this and am now very scared I have 8500pts of lizardmen and 5000 points of wood elves and apparently one is starting a "great exodus" the other sucked into a magic portal sooooooo.......if my beloved lizardmen get squated I will be VERY upset.
Read this and am now very scared I have 8500pts of lizardmen and 5000 points of wood elves and apparently one is starting a "great exodus" the other sucked into a magic portal sooooooo.......if my beloved lizardmen get squated I will be VERY upset.
You don't have to worry they wouldn't do that. Lizardmen are a super popular army. Plus I don't think any army will get squared. I don't think brettonia will get squated (although I saw a rumour on natfka that said that but I HIGHLY doubt that)
Read this and am now very scared I have 8500pts of lizardmen and 5000 points of wood elves and apparently one is starting a "great exodus" the other sucked into a magic portal sooooooo.......if my beloved lizardmen get squated I will be VERY upset.
They'll probably just blow up Lustria and move all the Lizards to the Southlands.
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Buttlerthepug wrote: I think it's the fact the story is actually moving forward. Sure, background is great and all. I love all the fluff regarding the Warhammer Fantasy armies, but I also love seeing something new come to Fantasy. Not to mention that background fluff is still there. Unless you were playing an obscure army like Kislev (which didn't have a book anyways), then the End Times shouldn't have effected whatever your army includes.
All it does it move the story forward in order to make way for something new. Personally, I can't complain about that!
But surely all of that could have been provided with a similar multi-book-plus-new-shiny-models campaign centred around the multiple previous and barely explored "almost the end of everything but not quite" periods in Fantasy's history? I've never been a huge fan of interactive universes which are stories, rather than settings, there's too much danger of something exactly like this happening and having the story dictated to me rather than being free to create it myself.
My Tilean WHFB army is now "historical", as is my in-progress Kislevite Mordheim warband - the group I occasionally game with didn't actually play "Mordheim" as in the city, we used the rules for skirmish gaming in the "present" tied into our WHFRP campaign, on which subject; my Amethyst College mage character is now apparently dead and a Shade, because Nagash. My Priest of Morr is hardly likely to fair well given that Nagash has eaten/killed/replaced the Nehekaran God of the Underworld(given how often it's implied in the lore that all these different gods are aspects of the same entity I doubt Morr will be allowed to hang about interfering with the plans of GW's new favourite skeletal Lich-lord). That Priestess of Valaya model I've been working on on-and-off and writing Hired Sword rules for seems rather a waste of time now that particular Ancestor God is destroyed.
And that's just one book in, one book out of three or four and they've eradicated half a continent's worth of nations, over a dozen named-characters and gods, totally eliminated an entire Wind of Magic, and set up a storyline which will be completely ridiculously implausible if it doesn't result in the destruction of at least half the major cities and provinces of the Empire, most of Bretonnia, some substantial but as yet undetermined portion of all three flavours of Elves, and the complete disappearance of the entire Lizardmen faction. That just isn't recognisable as the Warhammer World to me any more.
I've been playing WFB since I think 5th edition (whatever it was in 1998 with Bretonnians and Lizardmen in the starter). Even back then you played with characters long dead. So for me characters being dead doesn't matter. Nations being gone don't matter. I can come up with a plethora of reasons a Tilean army might still exist in the game or a Kislevite one (they even give an out in the actual story for Kislevite armies still being abroad). Overall though I like it for a few reasons:
1) The story line is progressing. This is actually pretty cool. GW learned they couldn't leave it to customers to do it after Storm of Chaos so they are doing it themselves.
2) It feels epic. Unlike most Fantasy books/games it feels huge.
3) I love WFB and this is a spark that has increased, at least locally, talk and play of fantasy
4) The books are pretty
Pretty much it. I've got Dwarves, Lizardmen, O&G, and Ogres. Most of them in the 3k range. Does it suck that my Ancestor Goddess is gone? Yep. Does it suck that one of my factions might just vanish into the webway network and retreat to other worlds in the larger galaxy? Yep. But that's just fluff. And to me it's good fluff because things are changing. I can still play my Lizardmen as they "retreat" from the world or the bear the runes of Valaya in game. So far I haven't seen anything that limits me and only more options and stories opening up.
Just one guys opinion but to me it's pretty awesome.
Fair enough I suppose. I've always preferred the more ground-level, gritty, low-fantasy aspect of the human realms of Warhammer, so having half of them wiped out puts a bit of a dent in any future plans I had. Which is where the disconnect happens perhaps - I liked Fantasy(and 40K for that matter) as a setting because it gave me a set of tools to tell my own stories, if I wanted to write up some huge epic campaign I could choose to do that without impacting anyone beyond my own wee group, and the armies and warbands we put together for those campaigns which were set in "modern" Fantasy would always fit in with the "regular" timeline. Now a big chunk of the tools are gone, more will soon be gone, and while it's great that some people are enjoying Fantasy anew, it irks me a bit that it has to be at the expense of the "setting" players when the "story" players could have been given content in so many other ways.
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I've always been confused how people apparently burn their previous editions' army books and rulebooks as soon as a new edition is announced. You'd think that hundreds of dollars (or pounds) worth of investment would be worth keeping around and looking at every once in a while.
Seriously, though. What's stopping your small local group from going "for the purposes of this campaign, the End Times hasn't happened. Refer to Army Book X, page xx for the relevant fluff."
It's fantasy and fiction. Time's allowed to run backwards.
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Anvildude wrote: I've always been confused how people apparently burn their previous editions' army books and rulebooks as soon as a new edition is announced. You'd think that hundreds of dollars (or pounds) worth of investment would be worth keeping around and looking at every once in a while.
Seriously, though. What's stopping your small local group from going "for the purposes of this campaign, the End Times hasn't happened. Refer to Army Book X, page xx for the relevant fluff."
It's fantasy and fiction. Time's allowed to run backwards.
Books aren't an investment.. they're just a cost. Sure it's a requirement to play but when those requirements play they're not very relevant. Granted, I do keep my old books because I agree that they are fun to look at now and then. But investment? Nah, that sounds like the logic a hoarder would use to never throw anything out :p
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I have barely started my WFB army and have never played a game of it, but you guys talking about the epic story makes me want to pick up the books and get working on some Undead right now... damn it!
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I'll be interested to see wat a half decent painter can do with the special character. His stomach tentacles are of a completely different colour palette to the rest of the mode, looking more Tzeentchian in their vibrancy, l and the skin looks to have far too healthy a glow for a devotee of Nurgle.
So love these!!
Need to figure out how to put some guns on them & make them look a bit more termie-like.
The open bellies look like a great spot to stick a cannon in.
Also looks like there are a huge amount of choice & will leave you with plenty of spares to add to other Nurgle models. I'm thinking of adding bits or swapping bits on my spawn.
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Anvildude wrote: I've always been confused how people apparently burn their previous editions' army books and rulebooks as soon as a new edition is announced. You'd think that hundreds of dollars (or pounds) worth of investment would be worth keeping around and looking at every once in a while.
Seriously, though. What's stopping your small local group from going "for the purposes of this campaign, the End Times hasn't happened. Refer to Army Book X, page xx for the relevant fluff."
It's fantasy and fiction. Time's allowed to run backwards.
The point is to have a common frame of reference for games outside your group. Most of the guys in that group have been gaming together since we were 12, we're now in our late 20's to early 30's, between family, work, some people moving further away etc, we can get together once every couple of months at most, so if I want a game outside of that I have to go to one of the local clubs, and they all play the current editions and nothing else. Right now, mechanically, there's nothing to stop me using my Tilean army with Empire rules, but assuming this whole End Times fiasco doesn't get Storm of Chaos'd in the end, 9th Edition's fantasy armies are not going to look much like 8th Edition's at all(the "side of Order" ones anyway), so what do I do then, drop half the models I spent ages converting to make the force fit with the new rules? Just stop using them altogether?
I'm no stranger to the idea of "bugger GW, I'll play what I like", most of my projects at the moment centre around Inquisitor, Necromunda, GorkaMorka, and Mordheim - all games GW doesn't even produce any more - and that means I'm well aware of how much more difficult it is to get random people to agree to play "your" version of the hobby. You can't just turn up and play an old edition at a club, which means spending bloody ages on their forum trying to organise games weeks in advance, having inevitable arguments with the "ermagerd stop being so hipster and just play the new edition ffs" idiots, and then eventually negotiating with the minority of people willing to go beyond what's currently "official" to try and actually agree the parameters(because of course there's always one guy who'll agree to play older stuff, but wants to use *different* older stuff than you do). It's a massive pile of hassle.
Now, if GW wanted to take the time to lay out the Fantasy universe into "eras", there'd be much less of an issue, since you could just way "I want an Age of X game anyone in?" and there would be defined parameters, that common frame of reference, to work from in the same way there is with the Heresy right now, but they aren't and won't; they see each new batch of fluff and rules as replacing the previous set, and so that's how the vast majority of your average club-or-store-going punters see it as well.
That's why the whole End Times thing irritates me - Tilea, Estalia, Araby, Cathay, Nippon, the Border Princes, all these are barely explored either in background or models and could have provided easily as much content for people who wanted a set story to play as End Times will. On top of that you could go back and detail the Warhammer World during the first Great War against Chaos, the era of the War of Vengeance/Time of Woes, the times when Nehekara was mortal and Nagash first arose(which would include the Reman Empire, an entire new nation/faction), the founding of the Empire, the Black Death and subsequent Skaven Wars, the Time of the Three Emperors, the Wars of the Vampire Counts, right up to the Last Great War against Chaos. There are decades worth of book and miniature production in the unexplored elements of the existing Warhammer World, but making and selling all that content wouldn't allow GW to dump as many references to historical and "real" mythological elements as possible in order to make it easier for them to sue people, so instead those of us who actually like the existing material get to watch them dismantle it.
Like I keep saying, if you're enjoying the End Times, great, I'm pleased for you, but don't expect everyone to be as happy about it.
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Buttlerthepug wrote: I think it's the fact the story is actually moving forward. Sure, background is great and all. I love all the fluff regarding the Warhammer Fantasy armies, but I also love seeing something new come to Fantasy. Not to mention that background fluff is still there. Unless you were playing an obscure army like Kislev (which didn't have a book anyways), then the End Times shouldn't have effected whatever your army includes.
All it does it move the story forward in order to make way for something new. Personally, I can't complain about that!
But surely all of that could have been provided with a similar multi-book-plus-new-shiny-models campaign centred around the multiple previous and barely explored "almost the end of everything but not quite" periods in Fantasy's history? I've never been a huge fan of interactive universes which are stories, rather than settings, there's too much danger of something exactly like this happening and having the story dictated to me rather than being free to create it myself.
My Tilean WHFB army is now "historical", as is my in-progress Kislevite Mordheim warband - the group I occasionally game with didn't actually play "Mordheim" as in the city, we used the rules for skirmish gaming in the "present" tied into our WHFRP campaign, on which subject; my Amethyst College mage character is now apparently dead and a Shade, because Nagash. My Priest of Morr is hardly likely to fair well given that Nagash has eaten/killed/replaced the Nehekaran God of the Underworld(given how often it's implied in the lore that all these different gods are aspects of the same entity I doubt Morr will be allowed to hang about interfering with the plans of GW's new favourite skeletal Lich-lord). That Priestess of Valaya model I've been working on on-and-off and writing Hired Sword rules for seems rather a waste of time now that particular Ancestor God is destroyed.
And that's just one book in, one book out of three or four and they've eradicated half a continent's worth of nations, over a dozen named-characters and gods, totally eliminated an entire Wind of Magic, and set up a storyline which will be completely ridiculously implausible if it doesn't result in the destruction of at least half the major cities and provinces of the Empire, most of Bretonnia, some substantial but as yet undetermined portion of all three flavours of Elves, and the complete disappearance of the entire Lizardmen faction. That just isn't recognisable as the Warhammer World to me any more.
I've been playing WFB since I think 5th edition (whatever it was in 1998 with Bretonnians and Lizardmen in the starter). Even back then you played with characters long dead. So for me characters being dead doesn't matter. Nations being gone don't matter. I can come up with a plethora of reasons a Tilean army might still exist in the game or a Kislevite one (they even give an out in the actual story for Kislevite armies still being abroad). Overall though I like it for a few reasons:
1) The story line is progressing. This is actually pretty cool. GW learned they couldn't leave it to customers to do it after Storm of Chaos so they are doing it themselves.
2) It feels epic. Unlike most Fantasy books/games it feels huge.
3) I love WFB and this is a spark that has increased, at least locally, talk and play of fantasy
4) The books are pretty
Pretty much it. I've got Dwarves, Lizardmen, O&G, and Ogres. Most of them in the 3k range. Does it suck that my Ancestor Goddess is gone? Yep. Does it suck that one of my factions might just vanish into the webway network and retreat to other worlds in the larger galaxy? Yep. But that's just fluff. And to me it's good fluff because things are changing. I can still play my Lizardmen as they "retreat" from the world or the bear the runes of Valaya in game. So far I haven't seen anything that limits me and only more options and stories opening up.
Just one guys opinion but to me it's pretty awesome.
Pretty much this - I have enjoyed reading and looking at the Nagash book alot - its not the advancement f the Warhammer Fantasy I wanted - I don't like Neferata back with Nagash, Loss of certain female Elf characters etc
but its very very well done - I just treat is an alt universe that said I don't play the game anymore - just read the books and fluff (and do a bit of writing in thw world).
Also not sure Valaya is gone - isn't she just recharging and part of Neferta's plan (whatever that is) but she sure won't want Nagash (or Chaos) to win as thats all bad for her.?
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Saldiven wrote: Honestly, as a DoC player, I have to admit that I'm disappointed that it's just more Nurgle stuff....
At least we got an answer for the banner now!
We're still better off just 6-dicing Caco Choir and then smashing the 'I-win' unit with Acquiescense/Miasma to nuke it's own Movement... (if Caco didn't sneak a wound in there already!)
Besides, paired Beasts running as a 1x2 formation will stand up better than these new infantry will thanks to their ability to frontage deny like champs! (and won't be a massive hassle to maneuver around the board either)
I feel I called it right earlier in the thread, this is a splendid kit, but I'm not sure I agree with some of the choices made by the paint studio.
As a 40K CD player, I'm a tad disappointed, though not surprised, that there isn't a data sheet for their inclusion in 40K. Nurgle has no dedicated Heavy Support option in the book, perhaps they could have used them as some sort of heavy shock infantry.
Still, rumours abound of a big kit, maybe we'll get that.
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Not the first time, but the first time I've noticed this for some time.
Bravo GW, little things like this make all the difference.
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