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good question, Az...
last time i spoke to anyone on the mag., the lead time was 3 months for an issue going to print, but that was before the switch...
it would be interesting to hear if, or how, that has shortened with the new format...

i don't see these guys going up for pre-order next week...
i could see them launching in time for Christmas...

i am not seeing how this HH set would be presented as a boardgame...
Space Hulk style???
Execution Force style???
something new???
a box like the old Battle for Armageddon game made sense with tiles and chits, representing larger forces with each chit, but on an individual mini basis, you would need a lot of tiles...
maybe a Zone Mortalis style, but with tiles, like Advanced Space Crusade...

Forge World's HH books use the 40K book as the core ruleset, right???
are they going to Sigmar the ruleset for 30K???
so many questions...
it will be interesting to see what happens...

all i know, is that the plastic Praetors look sexy, and mkiv is my favorite HH armor mark, so these plastic sprue shots make me very happy...
having plastic mkiv arms and legs gets me way more excited than it should...

cheers
jah

I'd die for an advanced space crusade.

According to the original rumor, from Hastings in Feb, the first of the new HH releases will be a boardgame with new plastic miniatures (these on the already leaked pictures but more, incl. Cataphractii and Contemptor). He mentioned Assassinorum: Execution Force as an example of how that will look like. He was also the only rumor source for A: EF, so in addition to his general reliability there is a good chance he has the entire picture of this release correct as well. After the boardgame according to him there will be an HH product series from GW with its own rules. The stats for example will be different to the 40k ones and they will both be in the construction manuals.

With Sad Panda and Darnok saying no to HH next weekend, it won't be. Shops should have been informed already btw, maybe someone in the know chimes in with the newest preorder list so we can solve that question.

Hastings also mentioned the boardgame lets you play in the early days of the Heresy. Maybe battles inside buildings? Anything specific in the lore that would fit? Or a skirmisher like Mordheim?

All the info was very vague...

Hunting down loyalists in the ruins of Istvaan III might work.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Hunting down loyalists in the ruins of Istvaan III might work.

Don't think it will be that bleak. Maybe escaping Istavann III and seizing of the Eisenstein?

Wow, so it's true.

Okay, but are there MkIII helmets and armor? That's really the only mark of armor I want.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Would it be technically possible to adjust their schedule like that?

I suppose if the sprues are cast and packaged, it would just be a case of distributing stock to the various hubs and designing some new web pages and POS.

I'm not familiar with the print industry, would the lead time on WD be short enough now it's a smaller, weekly mag to allow for this?

If nothing else, if they have stuff ready but are waiting to cast/package/ship it, they could "shuffle" it in front of something else also ready to be cast/packaged/shipped.

 CrashGordon94 wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Would it be technically possible to adjust their schedule like that?

I suppose if the sprues are cast and packaged, it would just be a case of distributing stock to the various hubs and designing some new web pages and POS.

I'm not familiar with the print industry, would the lead time on WD be short enough now it's a smaller, weekly mag to allow for this?

If nothing else, if they have stuff ready but are waiting to cast/package/ship it, they could "shuffle" it in front of something else also ready to be cast/packaged/shipped.

Yeah but only if the lead time on White Dwarf is short enough to facilitate that, or the WD won't match the product being released.

Finally, something I can actually buy from the Horus Heresy range that won't leave me to survive on beans on toast for a month.

With GW, I wouldn't make any assumptions on price!

 Azreal13 wrote:
Would it be technically possible to adjust their schedule like that?

I suppose if the sprues are cast and packaged, it would just be a case of distributing stock to the various hubs and designing some new web pages and POS.

I'm not familiar with the print industry, would the lead time on WD be short enough now it's a smaller, weekly mag to allow for this?

I think with weekly magazines the turn around is usually 6 weeks.

But with others it's a week by week basis so if they are still printed in Poland then 6 weeks if they are in the country they distribute to I think the schedule is far more flexible

 silent25 wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Hunting down loyalists in the ruins of Istvaan III might work.

Don't think it will be that bleak. Maybe escaping Istavann III and seizing of the Eisenstein?

Almost... Wrong legions and warzone but you have the right idea.

Also the contents rumours are slightly wrong. The forces aren't an exact mirror of one another. One force is a Pride of the Legion style force. Some might even call it a boarding party... The other is based off normal Tac. Marines.

As for the ship name, I don't think the game is based on this particular ship, but I'd go with the "Tribune." Or one of the other warships in that warzone anyway.

So... Phall? Imperial Fists vs Iron Warriors... Cool.

Cheap plastic breacher marines would be awesome. Anything I can use for my restart of HH IF would be good

The iron warriors and imperial fists are both mk2/3 armies not mk 4.

Not that they didn't have mk4. Just not the armour they were known for.

 Lockark wrote:
The iron warriors and imperial fists are both mk2/3 armies not mk 4.

Not that they didn't have mk4. Just not the armour they were known for.

Iron Warriors have quite a lot of MkIV, in Extermination at least. Mostly MkII and MkIV shown for them. And actually the IF got quite a bit of MkIV after they quelled the rebellion on Mars but I'm not sure if that was before or after Phall. They're probably not the armour most people think of when they think those legions though yeah.

Phall was happening as the death of innocence was beginning on Mars. So phall was before the IF took back Mars and got their mk4 plate.

I actually like this idea. The SM army I am making will have a wide array of Marines from various chapters (some wearing older armor as they are OLD). As such, this will ease and cheapen my life with regards to creating some really nifty conversions. The only thing is I am a penny pinching snob bucket. So I will shop accordingly...

Dollars to donuts the HH ruleset is 40k AoSified

 HisDivineShadow wrote:
Dollars to donuts the HH ruleset is 40k AoSified

This is somthing I've been mulling around with too - it'd be an entry point into the game (getting you plenty of marine models) and have easier rules, without messing with the 40k universe or rule set.

I can't care less any about the GeeDubs HH ruleset.

I just want some cheap heresy infantry.

I imagine the HH plastics are largely just gonna be the most basic models... Tactical Squad, Rhino, etc... With FW simply redoing certain units and models as add-ons to the plastics. This move is to optimize the FW sales by shifting the highest volume FW models to a higher margin plastic form and replacing the FW sales with lower cost and better margin per kit add-ons.

As far a the setting of a Heresy era board game like this goes, I think the Scouring would appropriate as its a smaller scope to the game with Chaos forces breaking down into smaller and smaller forces in the guerrilla retreat to the Eye of Terror and the Loyalist following suit just to be able to follow in every direction..

Anyone know who the loyalist faction will be since the traitor legion character is supposedly an iron warrior?

I am loving plastic Horus Heresy... I may yet start a legion of my own.

 455_PWR wrote:
Anyone know who the loyalist faction will be since the traitor legion character is supposedly an iron warrior?

I am loving plastic Horus Heresy... I may yet start a legion of my own.

Imperial Fists, if it is set at Phall.

Ultramarines because GW.

 ImAGeek wrote:


Imperial Fists, if it is set at Phall.

Ding ding, we have a winner.

If I remember rightly the box has around 44 models. Including 3 Mk4 boxes, terminators, cataphracti and the two characters.

Cataphractii are Terminators, unless you mean that we're getting both Tartaros and Cataphractii suits of armour.

 BrookM wrote:
Cataphractii are Terminators, unless you mean that we're getting both Tartaros and Cataphractii suits of armour.

Contemptors and Cataphracti, my bad. My fingers were moving quicker than my mind there. Sorry for the confusion.

So 30 marines, 10 Cataphractii, 2 characters and 2 Contemptors? Sounds good, but also sounds expensive.

Sounds like the £75 price point a la Dark Macragge Millenium Vengeancestorm or whatever the latest 40K starter is called.

And HH is GENIUS for GW, as one basic model makes the rank and file for BOTH factions. Hurrah! And they can sell upgrade kits to personalise to your chosen side! Huzzah!

PRINT MORE MONEY GUYS, WE'RE GONNA NEED IT!