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Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Fort Benning, Georgia

Praetorian's are British Colonial Era with lasers, but Mordians always had a more Prussian/Germanic feel to me.
   
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Georgia

-Cadia: M36 Kantrael Pattern Lasgun, Flak Armour,
-Catachan: Mark IV Lascarbine, Flak vest,
-Tallarn Desert Raiders: M36 Pattern Lasgun, Flak Vest & Flak Helmet
-Steel Legion:M36 Pattern Lasgun, Flak Armour,
-Death Korps of Kreig: Lucius Pattern Lasgun,
-Moridian Iron Guard: Triplex Pattern Lasgun, Flak Vest
-Vostroyan First Borns: M36 Kantrael Pattern Lasgun, Flak Armour
and lets not forget the guardsman's most important piece of equipment, the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer. issued to all guardsman a disciplinary offense for not being able to present!

I wont deny that there are exceptions by far and and large the equipment of the guard is all standard, lasgun, flak armor, grenades, a close combat weapon. all that good stuff. As far as vehicles go, try any funny business and the Admech with turn you into a servitor, if the commissar doesn't blam you first. Are all the aesthetics and specializations of all these regiments different? Yes, but that doesn't mean there isn't a standard that they have to meet and, heck imperium has a specific department just for keeping regiments in line and ensuring they operate withing certain parameters.

There are going to be certain short coming in every dex, certain things that you just can pull off despite how hard you try. I don't think that means the army doesnt have character, just not the kind your looking for. Whether it's aircav or chivalrous mechanized heavy infantry there are gonna be limits, they cant cover everything, and I honestly believe the codex would suffer if they tried due to lack of direction.


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New Zealand

Lasgun in 40k is like the word gun today. "Someone has a gun" could mean the person is armed with one of thousands of style of small arms.

So when a guardsmen has a Lasgun/Autogun/crossbow/bow/black power weapon/club/nothing they could be armed with one of the untold number of variants. Many of which differ wildly from each other.

This is very much the same for armour.

I mean, yes a lasgun is usual standard for the guard... but the lasgun could mean many things.

I actually think with a small expansion book which focuses solely on rules for making your own Guard force (and contains the rules for the famous ones) alongside the normal "Cadian" book would be more than enough to cover everything a guard player could want.

They should do this for all factions. They won't though.
   
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United Kingdom

 Psienesis wrote:
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Your aspect ratio is wonky
   
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To be perfectly honest, I think the codex works pretty well. I can't see any reason to make Lasguns more powerful as some people are suggesting, because it is, by its very nature, a basic infantry weapon. Nor can I see much point in lowering unit costs, because Guard can already spam as much infantry as one could ever reasonably need.

The question of regimental doctrines is an interesting one. I can't help but think that your average Guardsman, even in a specialist regiment, would not have enough of a talent for it to be reflected on the tabletop. Veterans, yes, but perhaps not regular Guardsmen. The bonus granted from what amounts to perhaps two weeks of extra training would be so small that there'd be really no point in giving it a special rule.

That said, perhaps it would instead be a case of giving the regular Guardsmen a toned-down version of the doctrines purchased by Vets. Like Space Marine Chapter Tactics, you could have a selection of free doctrines representing some of the most common specialisations, which grant a special rule to Veterans and a 'light' version of it to regular units (Stealth for Vets, reroll 1s on Cover Saves for Regulars, for example).

What matters more, in my mind, is updating the model range (fixing the scale on Cadians and getting rid of those hideous Catachan models, perhaps), and with fixing units like Rough Riders, which haven't had any love in years.

One pet hope of mine is that one day Rough Riders will be available in Platoons, like they are in the Death Korps.

   
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preston

Why not buff the Lasgun? The Marines got Grav and Centurions and massive buffs to many units and vehicles.

The Necrons got supertermies as basic troops for 13 points.

The Eldar got Scatbikes and the stupid ability to spam the D.

Tau are getting two new GC suits, both with stupid levels of firepower and both costing in at only the 360 mark, as well as a stealth Riptide and several other dickery level units

The Guard get.... What? The Lasgun has been useless for several editions now. With all this power inflation it needs a buff too.

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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

 master of ordinance wrote:

The Guard get.... What? The Lasgun has been useless for several editions now. With all this power inflation it needs a buff too.
Because the guard are the only faction that's supposed to be fluff accurate - i.e. Die by the thousands and be utterly ineffectual until the marines turn up.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Selym wrote:
 master of ordinance wrote:

The Guard get.... What? The Lasgun has been useless for several editions now. With all this power inflation it needs a buff too.
Because the guard are the only faction that's supposed to be fluff accurate - i.e. Die by the thousands and be utterly ineffectual until the marines turn up.

Hey now, Orks and Tyranids are fluff accurate too.

And Chaos Marines!
   
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United Kingdom

 Kanluwen wrote:
 Selym wrote:
 master of ordinance wrote:

The Guard get.... What? The Lasgun has been useless for several editions now. With all this power inflation it needs a buff too.
Because the guard are the only faction that's supposed to be fluff accurate - i.e. Die by the thousands and be utterly ineffectual until the marines turn up.

Hey now, Orks and Tyranids are fluff accurate too.

And Chaos Marines!
Whoo! Uselessness ftw!

Side note, though, the Orks, Nids and CSM never get called "good enough", and are regularly pelted with suggestions for improvement by everyone else. The IG, meanwhile, gets glared at for daring to ask for decent infantry.
   
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preston

 Selym wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Selym wrote:
 master of ordinance wrote:

The Guard get.... What? The Lasgun has been useless for several editions now. With all this power inflation it needs a buff too.
Because the guard are the only faction that's supposed to be fluff accurate - i.e. Die by the thousands and be utterly ineffectual until the marines turn up.

Hey now, Orks and Tyranids are fluff accurate too.

And Chaos Marines!
Whoo! Uselessness ftw!

Side note, though, the Orks, Nids and CSM never get called "good enough", and are regularly pelted with suggestions for improvement by everyone else. The IG, meanwhile, gets glared at for daring to ask for decent infantry.


Aye, that pretty much seems to be the case. 'Nids can have endless swarms of Gaunts (not very strong, we know) but fluffwise they are cheap, weak and expendable. And yet everytime they ask for improvements people make suggestions and agree with them.

On the other foot though the Guard have terrible Infantry which are worse off than the Tyranids are and yet should we even dare ask for even the slightest buff we get shouted down.

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