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I think "don't miss out!" Is as legally close they can get to saying it's a limited release without getting into misleading marketing.

I want more info on that hero repack.

If it ends up including anything besides just figures, I'll probably take the plunge... again.

Or a good enough discount. I'm good with both!

Just marketing talk

It may be a limited initial run but- cynic mode on - an app with transactions is pretty overkill for something that'll be gone in a couple of months. None of the other box games got apps, for example - just WD rule expansions.

I'd suggest it'll be an ongoing product, simply because it's another hook to shift AoS minis, even if not actually helping AoS gain traction.

"Don't miss out" could easily mean it'll be a great time, and why would you want to not partake. It's definitely an ambiguous term. I guess time will tell. I already have my copy ordered with my game store.

Don't miss out probably just refers to the promo swag celebrating the game's release.

Kinda going back to earlier, but I just picked up the Ironjawz battle pack. Now that I have that, is there any real need for the Irinjawz book? Am I missing out on anything besides background now that I've got the battle pack formations and missions?

Well I’ll just have to wait and see in a couple of months then.. i’m sure if they are making an app and everything they will keep at least the core game going or reprint when they run out. I've given up on trying to get their special edition stuff long ago, so I don't care about that stuff too much. I promissed myself no more big boxed games till I paint my betrayal at Calth minis. So far I put together 3 marines :( Too. Many. Projects.

Back in my day, GW didn’t release stuff fast enough and you’d have to wait years and years and years between new codexes.. Now it’s like it’s way too fast for my wallet to keep up :(

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I want more info on that hero repack.

If it ends up including anything besides just figures, I'll probably take the plunge... again.

Or a good enough discount. I'm good with both!

Its the heroes and their cards/upgrades

It is discounted, id guess 10-15% off from buying singles though id hope it would be more since the singles are around 30-40 a pop, I don't want to spend 100$ on 4 guys for a board game. Id sooner just buy 5$ recasts.

This is where the app comes into play. If you own the minis already you DL the app and buy their cards, saving a good bit of $

If profits have been down it makes no sense to not sell as much product as there is demand. I'm willing to bet this game will be in production for a while as long as it moves. I'm going to wait until the reviews hit. But then again Space Hulk sold like hotcakes and that was a limited run.

str00dles1 wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I want more info on that hero repack.

If it ends up including anything besides just figures, I'll probably take the plunge... again.

Or a good enough discount. I'm good with both!

Its the heroes and their cards/upgrades

It is discounted, id guess 10-15% off from buying singles though id hope it would be more since the singles are around 30-40 a pop, I don't want to spend 100$ on 4 guys for a board game. Id sooner just buy 5$ recasts.

This is where the app comes into play. If you own the minis already you DL the app and buy their cards, saving a good bit of $

Has any of that actually been confirmed?

Meanwhile, a 10-15% discount, won't cut it for essentially anyone, unless its definitely loaded down with physical skill and treasure cards too.

I just thought we don't have a ranger .... wheres our ranger ??


I guess it's that Male Witch elf... but thats no ranger...(Wait unless I'm mistaken there was a wardancer and or a Witch elf before in WHQ )

I imagine, if GW is really wanting to build momentum for WQ, the boxes of heroes will have discounts similar to the "Start Collecting!" boxes, or slightly less and extra game content (new skills, treasures, etc..).

I still think that complete expansions would be better or like they are doing with betrayal release a new box with new stuff but be able to link them.

The " hero packs " are very very meh unless we get new stuff not recycled old.

I just want a cool pit fighter, Chaos Warrior, Ranger, anything than the stupid golden men repackaged stuff.

Got to see many of the figs today. Beautiful but MASSIVE compared to my Empire miniatures. The barbarian was a head taller than my Steam Tank pilot who is stood upright. The Tzeentch cultists are all obviously bigger too. Could make the Warrior Priest incompatible with the other Devoted of Sigmar.

Beautiful models regardless, and I don't particularly mind. Not everyone is the same height. But something to consider if this is one of your priorities.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
"Don't miss out" could easily mean it'll be a great time, and why would you want to not partake. It's definitely an ambiguous term. I guess time will tell. I already have my copy ordered with my game store.

This.
I would not have thought it said anything else if people didnt connect it with a possible limited release.

As a comparison I might quote Neil Gaimans book blurb on Gene Wolfes exelent "Wizard Knight":
"If you dont read this book, You'll have missed out on something important and wonderful and all the cool people will laugh at you"
It sure got me to buy the book

 godswildcard wrote:
Kinda going back to earlier, but I just picked up the Ironjawz battle pack. Now that I have that, is there any real need for the Irinjawz book? Am I missing out on anything besides background now that I've got the battle pack formations and missions?

I'll find out tonight after I buy the Ironjaw battlepack and compare with what is in my hardcopy book. I'm gonna guess the only thing you miss out on is some fluff and artwork, but will know for certain tonight after work.

Honestly $60 for just 4 single models for a board game would still be to costly imo, and that's 50% off... Thats a tough sell, but I want the slaughterprist and the auric runemaster, so picked those up solo. Already owned the Tzeentch wizard so thats a bonus! and I dont see how the Sigmar Winged Archer would fit on the board, lol... It looks huge.

Here's a post from my FLGS:

After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting).

Chopxsticks wrote:
Honestly $60 for just 4 single models for a board game would still be to costly imo, and that's 50% off... Thats a tough sell, but I want the slaughterprist and the auric runemaster, so picked those up solo. Already owned the Tzeentch wizard so thats a bonus! and I dont see how the Sigmar Winged Archer would fit on the board, lol... It looks huge.

At 50% off, i'll be impressed, and will bite, no questions asked (I happen to want that Runepriest anyway, and almost bought one recently).

I just don't know if thats a remotely possible expectation. :-p

Ashitaka wrote:
Here's a post from my FLGS:

After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting).

Which means what? Any particular complaints?

Ashitaka wrote:
Here's a post from my FLGS:

After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting).

LOL worst managed game store ever
"I dislike sales, so I will disparage my product."
No wonder companies such as Privateer Press and Asmodee are forced to prop up this failing business model with price fixing schemes.

 Swara wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
Here's a post from my FLGS:

After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting).

Which means what?

Means the LGS owner is putting down an exciting new product on the eve of its release ... Genius!

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
or god forbid aos actually be doing well?

Yep. Seems as though people are scrabbling around for a reason other than the really obvious one. The hated usurper may be doing well.

I'll believe it when I see it, because that directly contradicts what we've been told by Hastings.

Hastings is a reliable source of rumours, but I wouldn't take everything he/she says as gospel.

Gospel? Obviously not, but I see no reason not to place the same level of trust in his rumours about AoS's success as I would in ones of a new model or book release, trust he's earned with many years of accurate rumours. The rumours coming from Hastings also chime better with the preponderance of anecdotal information we've got.

I could believe a rumour that AoS was doing 30% of revenue right at this very moment, given the Orruk release seems to be the first one that's really struck a chord for many, but the idea it's been doing that consistently over any period of time is difficult to accept given how it's apparently struggling to gain a foothold in many regions and what we heard from retailers about badly tanking GW sales over the AoS release-heavy period last year.

As for Silver Tower, I'm baffled that people apparently have demo copies in hand right now yet we still don't have anything better than handheld shakycam video footage of sprues being held several feet away from the lens. It's infuriating that people keep insisting on putting up either blurry photos of WD pages half obscured by glare, or plainly inferior video-based content where they vaguely wave sprues in the general direction of the camera for a few seconds while insisting how awesome the models are despite the fact you couldn't see them clearly even after using TV Crime Drama Computer Magic Enhancement on it.

Put sprues against light background, take steady high-resolution photos of both sides, upload, done. It's not hard, yet it never seems to happen.

That's a very cryptic warning.

Just because it isn't the same as what came before?

Because it doesn't have all the extra stuff included from the get- go? Strange.

Also on the hero reboxing- considering that the Knight is on a 40mm base just like the other Stormcasts, I'm sure he'll fit. He also costs 40 bucks on his own, and the other guys all seem to hover around the 30 dollar price mark. If GW wants to bundle them all up for under 100, hopefully more like 75 or 80, I could see them moving a few. I'd bite at that point. It's not like they would be single cast PVC gaming pieces. They'd still be decent hobby quality figures, and at a little bit more bearable price. Hopefully.

Wait, there are people who are upset that AOS is getting points

I highly doubt that is the issue here.

 Manchu wrote:

 Swara wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
Here's a post from my FLGS:

After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting).

Which means what?

Means the LGS owner is putting down an exciting new product on the eve of its release ... Genius!

Perhaps he knows his own local market better than folk on the internet do, and can anticipate that they will not be satisfied by whatever has changed/been removed relative to the original WHQ? Or is it only OK to credit FLGS owners with intelligence and local knowledge when they're praising AoS products to the heavens?

 Yodhrin wrote:
Perhaps he knows his own local market better than folk on the internet do, and can anticipate that they will not be satisfied by whatever has changed/been removed relative to the original WHQ?

Broadcasting negativity about a product you will be carrying simply makes no sense. If a LGS owner thinks X product will not do as well in his shop, the smart ... no, not even smart ... the common sense thing to do is keep it behind the scenes. People should really keep this kind of self-destructive behavior (far from rare IME) in mind when they read claims that AoS is not doing well at a LGS. Silver Tower is a hugely exciting product. There is literally no reason to talk it down - unless you want to self-sabotage, of course.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Swara wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
Here's a post from my FLGS:

After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting).

Which means what?

Means the LGS owner is putting down an exciting new product on the eve of its release ... Genius!

Perhaps he knows his own local market better than folk on the internet do, and can anticipate that they will not be satisfied by whatever has changed/been removed relative to the original WHQ? Or is it only OK to credit FLGS owners with intelligence and local knowledge when they're praising AoS products to the heavens?

It might be worth to take that financial hit if the alternative is destroying your credibility amongst a customer base that support the FLGS because they can trust the owner to be honest about his products rather then saying whatever sounds good to make a quick buck out of misleading their customers.

Anyone interested in the new Quest because they liked the old one, really should be vary of ordering it before they see some reviews. That should be obvious really, but some need the reminder.