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Were literally getting drowned in sigmarines once again. As much ad the scouts were gakky, I Must say that all the cavs are gorgeous models. Especially the big white one (probably a hero). Just need to replace the ridiculous riders with something better (ie not a sce. How cool would have been an EMpire Noble riding this???). The crossbowman are pretty good too. At least much better than the current one. Real solid release from the big GW

Lord Kragan wrote:
The mighty gryph-chargers are known for their fearsome warcries, uttered in the closing moments of their charge.

"BA-KAW!"

More like "WARK!" amirite?

Digging the big rider

Oh well, so much for saving my tax return...

 streetsamurai wrote:
Were literally getting drowned in sigmarines once again. As much ad the scouts were gakky, I Must say that all the cavs are gorgeous models. Especially the big white one (probably a here). Just need to replace the rider with something better (ie not a sce. How cool would have been an EMpire Noble riding this???). The crossbowman are pretty good too. At least much better than the current one. Real solid release from the big GW

Seconded, I really hope those legs aren't moulded onto the mounts, or if they are, that they can be shaved off with relative ease.

In all honesty, I can't decide if the griffon creature is hilarious or inspired. My opinion changes every time I look at it. The sigmarine on top, however, definitely needs about 50% less bling.

Agreed. I will admit I'm a little biased as I dont find anything about the Sigmarines enjoyable, but I feel that mount would have looked cooler with Aelves or Deamons

Chopxsticks wrote:
Agreed. I will admit I'm a little biased as I dont find anything about the Sigmarines enjoyable, but I feel that mount would have looked cooler with Aelves or Deamons

GW really is making a mistake by shoving the SCE so much down people throat. They seems to be one of the biggest drawback to AOS succes, as a lot of people hate them, and let others indifferent at best.

Was a classical mistake of market (or producl) push. They should have release numerous little factions at the beginning, and let the customers decide which one they liked the most (which would have subsequetly turned into the face of the setting)

Must admit that Cavalry model is fantastic and seriously making me look at getting Stormcast.

So much conversion potential in this model- so very much. I really disliked the chubster Imperial Griffion from the dying days of WFB - this is much better (for me anyway)

 streetsamurai wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
Agreed. I will admit I'm a little biased as I dont find anything about the Sigmarines enjoyable, but I feel that mount would have looked cooler with Aelves or Deamons

GW really is making a mistake by shoving the SCE so much down people throat. They seems to be one of the biggest drawback to AOS succes, as a lot of people hate them, and let others indifferent at best.

Was a classical mistake of market push. They should have release numerous little factions at the beginning, and let the customers decide which one they liked the most (which would have subsequetly turned into the face of the setting)

It's more like these sculpts are a response to the initial sets or where slated even before the creation of AoS rather than them wanting to shove the stormcasts. Between concept creation and appearance in stores, all GW stuff takes between a year and a half and two years.


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 Mr Morden wrote:
Must admit that Cavalry model is fantastic and seriously making me look at getting Stormcast.

You want more plastic crack, you know you do.

I'm a destruction player but this last releases make me consider branching off to order instead of chaos.

And that's exactly what I'm saying. They should have planned a lot of small factions at the begining, and let the market decide which one was liked and deserved support. Instead of putting all their eggs in the same (crappy) basket.

 streetsamurai wrote:
And that's exactly what I'm saying. They should have planned a lot of small factions at the begining, and let the market decide which one was liked and deserved support. Instead of putting all their eggs in the same (crappy) basket.

That's just, like, your opinion man. Even with this release, Stormcast is still probably not the largest range considering how large the lines are for Seraphon, Daemons (wasn't hearing complaints about new Tzeentch models btw), and if you round up the existing Aelf minor factions together (which you should).

No, this is just bringing the posterboys up to a respectable range size imo.

Chikout wrote:
New Stormcast cavalry. An all gryph army looks like a possibility. ( from Noct on the French warhammer forum) The gold armour is not a good choice for these guys but the mounts look cool.

That ogroid thermatururururururu is giving the larry david curb your enthusiam look to the camrea right now.

Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

So anecdotal evidence, then.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

That's pretty opposite of what GW has said and what most FLGSs say as well.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

So anecdotal evidence, then.

Yes and no. Ebay is a huge market place. So the fact that they weren't selling even if they were priced way below market price is a rather good indication that something is not popular. And I'm not the only one who have trouble moving SCE. As you say, it's not a cold hard fact, but there seems to be a lot more enthousiasm for factions like Sylvaneth and Orruks, than they were for SCE


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Requizen wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

That's pretty opposite of what GW has said and what most FLGSs say as well.

Yeah, like GW said Dread Fleet was a success

I'd like to see the quotes of FLGS saying SCE sell well. I really do. But I won't hold my breath waiting for them.

GW is basing this on something though, right?

At its simplest form it is "Space Marines Sell".

Of course, it is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy if that's all you feature and push, but, still, it seems to be the case.

HH sells!

FW pushes HH hard, notes few sales of anything else, rinse and repeat.

So on and so on?

 streetsamurai wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

So anecdotal evidence, then.

Yes and no. Ebay is a huge market place. So the fact that they weren't selling even if they were priced way below market price is a rather good indication that something is not popular. And I'm not the only one who have trouble moving SCE. As you say, it's not a cold hard fact, but there seems to be a lot more enthousiasm for factions like Sylvaneth and Orruks, than they were for SCE


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Requizen wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

That's pretty opposite of what GW has said and what most FLGSs say as well.

Yeah, like GW said Dread Fleet was a success

I'd like to see the quotes of FLGS saying SCE sell well. I really do. But I won't hold my breath waiting for them.

Or that they just weren't interested on what may or may not be a totally unknown vendor, do you have an established record on ebay? In my experience there, people really prefer people with flying colours. And in addition, you really lack the sample size for making the statement, plus there's plenty of stormcasts being sold on ebay so yes your argument is anecdotal experience because plenty more people are doing what apparently you couldn't.

Yes. That's no great revelation that some manage to sell SCE on Ebay. I would also have done so if I I had persevered and listed them numerous times. But considering that I never had so much trouble selling other factions, I feel comfortable to say that SCE are not very popular. Anecdotal evidence for sure, but as long as GW doesn't release their sales by range, that's all we have (even Space marines selling well is an aanecdotal evidence, since we have no hard fact to base this on).

But let me ask you a question. Do you think AOS would have been better of if these critters were riden by another race (aelf or a completely new one), or do you think that releasing another wave of SCE was a good idea?

I think large home boy is gonna sell regardless as people are gonna want that mount! He is on my wish list

So what you guys are saying is I need to start trolling eBay for underpriced Stormcasts.

Fair enough.

Searching begins in 3,2,1...

 streetsamurai wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Of course it's only my opinion, but it's pretty obvious that SCE are not good sellers. I've put some on Ebay and Kijiji at a ridiculously low price, and never even got a hit.

So anecdotal evidence, then.

Yes and no. Ebay is a huge market place. So the fact that they weren't selling even if they were priced way below market price is a rather good indication that something is not popular. And I'm not the only one who have trouble moving SCE. As you say, it's not a cold hard fact, but there seems to be a lot more enthousiasm for factions like Sylvaneth and Orruks, than they were for SCE

eBay is a huge marketplace, and Stormcast were a fairly sizeable release. It's like the Space Marine Tactical Squads from Dark Vengeance though, in that you're looking at a VERY specific loadout/product with very little conversion potential. Even selling them at $5-$10 a pop is difficult unless someone is desperate for them without the other half of the starter set.

Anecdotally speaking, I saw several people buying a set at the same time as someone else and then the people would just trade the half they didn't want then and there.

 streetsamurai wrote:
And that's exactly what I'm saying. They should have planned a lot of small factions at the begining, and let the market decide which one was liked and deserved support. Instead of putting all their eggs in the same (crappy) basket.

Except the stormcast are selling really well, not sylvaneth well but definitely very popular and a lot of people really enjoy them and think that they look really cool and built a 5k army really fast and think that it's extremely rude to dismiss the entire line of models because they and some butthurt fantasy players like to waste time hating.

I guess riding dragons wasn't good enough?

Coulda left the riding of birds to the human faction... Ya know continuing with that whole thing they HAD going on..

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
So what you guys are saying is I need to start trolling eBay for underpriced Stormcasts.

Fair enough.

Searching begins in 3,2,1...

You'll find better deal on Kijiji


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ERJAK wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
And that's exactly what I'm saying. They should have planned a lot of small factions at the begining, and let the market decide which one was liked and deserved support. Instead of putting all their eggs in the same (crappy) basket.

Except the stormcast are selling really well, not sylvaneth well but definitely very popular and a lot of people really enjoy them and think that they look really cool and built a 5k army really fast and think that it's extremely rude to dismiss the entire line of models because they and some butthurt fantasy players like to waste time hating.

How do you know?

You have acces to GW sales data?

Cause that's not what Hasting said. Pretty much the only reliable rumour monger who made a comment about the sales of AOS

And butthurt How old are you? 13?

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
I guess riding dragons wasn't good enough?

Coulda left the riding of birds to the human faction... Ya know continuing with that whole thing they HAD going on..

Personally I was hugely dispaointed by the Stormcast Dragons - the smaller ones seemed to have tiny heads in proportion to their bodies and the big ones just looked chunky and without style. but only IMO.

This looks ace - can imagine loads of different ways to use - both in fantasy and 30k/ 40k

So we finally have armoured models riding chocobo?
Wondered when this would happen lol.


Also, am I the only one thinking that the small mounts look like the old forgeworld kroot gnarloc riders?

 streetsamurai wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
So what you guys are saying is I need to start trolling eBay for underpriced Stormcasts.

Fair enough.

Searching begins in 3,2,1...

You'll find better deal on Kijiji


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ERJAK wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
And that's exactly what I'm saying. They should have planned a lot of small factions at the begining, and let the market decide which one was liked and deserved support. Instead of putting all their eggs in the same (crappy) basket.

Except the stormcast are selling really well, not sylvaneth well but definitely very popular and a lot of people really enjoy them and think that they look really cool and built a 5k army really fast and think that it's extremely rude to dismiss the entire line of models because they and some butthurt fantasy players like to waste time hating.

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HOw do you know?

You have acces to GW sales data?

Cause that's not what Hasting said

This is like space marines: sales data are on the tables. I've run a couple tournaments already and in my experience stormcast outnumbered ANY other faction in presence. Stormcast also feature heavily in the tournament reports I've read and seen. Same as space marines, it's no longer anecdotical once you consider that everyone and their dog has an army or that they almost saturate tournaments, by sheer number of armies.

Also I find it cute you keep repeating a statement he said eight months ago ( AOS not doing well) and said that was no longer the case in november (he didn't say anything on doing well or anything else, he just said it was no longer the case).

Out of curiosity what did you sell, Streetsamurai? Those "Easy to build" kits would've made the basic stuff hard to move unless you included the rest of the weapon options.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Were literally getting drowned in sigmarines once again. As much ad the scouts were gakky, I Must say that all the cavs are gorgeous models. Especially the big white one (probably a hero). Just need to replace the ridiculous riders with something better (ie not a sce. How cool would have been an EMpire Noble riding this???). The crossbowman are pretty good too. At least much better than the current one. Real solid release from the big GW

Conversions exist for that.

https://pp.vk.me/c636422/v636422894/5d7/bsYYTok4doY.jpg

 streetsamurai wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
So what you guys are saying is I need to start trolling eBay for underpriced Stormcasts.

Fair enough.

Searching begins in 3,2,1...

You'll find better deal on Kijiji


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ERJAK wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
And that's exactly what I'm saying. They should have planned a lot of small factions at the begining, and let the market decide which one was liked and deserved support. Instead of putting all their eggs in the same (crappy) basket.

Except the stormcast are selling really well, not sylvaneth well but definitely very popular and a lot of people really enjoy them and think that they look really cool and built a 5k army really fast and think that it's extremely rude to dismiss the entire line of models because they and some butthurt fantasy players like to waste time hating.

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HOw do you know?

You have acces to GW sales data?

Cause that's not what Hasting said

Hastings? oooooooh well with that kind of gospel how could you possibly be in doubt. Look, gw is not a complicated company. The battleforce boxes were whatever the top 4 selling lines in each game system were at the time they were bundles. That's why they did space wolves over space marines. The stormcast paladins and judicators have been on the best sellers list forever and plenty of people buy them just for the really strong rules. Do I have concrete sales evidence beyond this? No, but neither do you and my anecdotal evidence comes from GW's policy, your anecdotal evidence comes from a guy who's been radio silent for a year(I.E. BEFORE the general's handbook when EVERYTHING was selling like horses***). You're made that your faction isn't as good as mine and that's fine, have fun with that.