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i checked out the Lord of Change at GW yesterday, and it is incredible!!!
the detail is almost overwhelming, as it should be for this model...
Kairos wins it for me...
so much cooler than the original...
i really look forward to painting him

i was surprised to see the Gryph-Chargers and birds spoilered in the Battle Report, Paint Splatter, and fold-out this month...they are not listed alongside the Battletome, Gryph-Hounds, and Vanguard-Hunters in this month's releases, but are still shown all over the magazine...
it's just a little thing, but i am enjoying the return of sneak peeks

i don't remember seeing it in the previews, but the Gryph-Hound pack has a head variant for the leader...
he has the cutest little Gryph helmet...
this is the most excited i have been for any Stormcast release, so far...
all of the creatures are so cool
i have been lukewarm about the previous S.E. models, but they have finally won me over with the beasties...

exciting times ahead...
i can't wait to see what they do with an update of proper armored Dwarfs

cheers
jah

 jah-joshua wrote:
i don't remember seeing it in the previews, but the Gryph-Hound pack has a head variant for the leader...
he has the cutest little Gryph helmet...

I must have them.

I'm really liking the oval based bowman, we are going to see some serious range I reckon

A little update about this weekends preorders. Alongside the book, the hunters and the hounds we are getting some repacks.
The liberators and judicators are going from $50 for 5 to $62 for 10. The prosecutors are going from $60 for 3 to $74 for 6.
I have only seen the US prices so far.

Those are flipping massive savings. I think Stormcasts are about to get even more popular now. Of note is that Paladins aren't changing at all reportedly, but I guess that's as - at least here in Australia - it was $85 for 5 Liberators - 100 points and $98 for 5 Paladins - 200-220 points. Making the core troops (and Prosecutors) cheaper was definitely the way to go as their dollar-to-points ratio was horrendous

Waiting on those gryph hounds to use as cyber jackles for my sisters of silence, and the eagles.

Any word on price or box size for those eagles atall please?

Chikout wrote:
A little update about this weekends preorders. Alongside the book, the hunters and the hounds we are getting some repacks.
The liberators and judicators are going from $50 for 5 to $62 for 10. The prosecutors are going from $60 for 3 to $74 for 6.
I have only seen the US prices so far.

Damn, I got screwed on the Judicators I bought recently. Oh well. It does make the Start Collecting a pretty terrible deal though. $32+$37+$15+$33 (for the character). Basically you're getting the character for free with the purchase and he's pretty over costed. But it dropped it from from an almost 50% discount to a 25% discount.

Some guy at Lustria-Online noticed this on the USA site:



I'm pretty sure is just an error, but I would love to see if GW upgrade the Carnosaur sprue to give more options, maybe a howdah full of skins, or maybe even a new Arcanodon sprue.

If not, I hope this means that a new Seraphon BT is going to be released soon.

But, realistically is possibly just a price reduction, because plenty of people is already buying the SC! kit instead the Carno alone.

CMLR wrote:
Some guy at Lustria-Online noticed this on the USA site:



I'm pretty sure is just an error, but I would love to see if GW upgrade the Carnosaur sprue to give more options, maybe a howdah full of skins, or maybe even a new Arcanodon sprue.

If not, I hope this means that a new Seraphon BT is going to be released soon.

But, realistically is possibly just a price reduction, because plenty of people is already buying the SC! kit instead the Carno alone.

Your link's broken.

The Carnosaur kit comes up as "Sold Out" with "No Longer Available" beneath it, for those wondering what the muffed picture above might be.

What? I can see the image, what could've been?

CMLR wrote:
What? I can see the image, what could've been?

It asks for login when I try to see it, you're probably logged in for authentication. Rehost or something imo.

Site is down for maintenance now, likely a bug or something similar.

Saw the prices for the new Liberators and Judicators 10-man boxes (and Prosecutors 6-man boxes), can't remember exact price but basically prices have increased about 25% but amount of minis has increased 100%. So price/mini is nearly halved!

Wonder if they'll fix the crazy Fyreslayer prices anytime soon too

Vorian wrote:
Wonder if they'll fix the crazy Fyreslayer prices anytime soon too

Good question. Especially as they are getting a points reduction. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/07/the-generals-handbook-ii-wip-points-sneak-peek/
This also includes a points increase for tomb kings. This is all great news. It is proof that they are not abandoning compendium armies. It will also be good to see the meta change.
If 40k 8th takes one thing from AOS, I hope it is this.

Huh, interestingly enough they've pointed out that their newer battletomes ARE playtested. Interesting.

We also must updated the rumour thread, maybe? After all it's been confirmed that fyreslayers are getting at least a unique character. Or so it seems, Kraggi doesn't ring any bell.

Lord Kragan wrote:
Huh, interestingly enough they've pointed out that their newer battletomes ARE playtested. Interesting.

We also must updated the rumour thread, maybe? After all it's been confirmed that fyreslayers are getting at least a unique character. Or so it seems, Kraggi doesn't ring any bell.

That's not just Fyreslayers.

It's bringing back Kraggi(the apprentice for the Anvil of Doom) and Shadowblade(Dark Elf Assassin. Really funky to have as a Leader, but okay).

 Kanluwen wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:
Huh, interestingly enough they've pointed out that their newer battletomes ARE playtested. Interesting.

We also must updated the rumour thread, maybe? After all it's been confirmed that fyreslayers are getting at least a unique character. Or so it seems, Kraggi doesn't ring any bell.

That's not just Fyreslayers.

It's bringing back Kraggi(the apprentice for the Anvil of Doom) and Shadowblade(Dark Elf Assassin. Really funky to have as a Leader, but okay).

You're right. Maybe he'll get an update, though? The old book he was 20pts. His stats aren't worth at all 100 so it may be possible that he'll be getting a new model and rules

Chikout wrote:
This also includes a points increase for tomb kings. This is all great news. It is proof that they are not abandoning compendium armies. It will also be good to see the meta change.

Look at the section that the Necrosphynx, etc. are listed under. Its 'Grand Alliance Death' and not 'Tomb Kings':

I thought they were already part of the Death Grand Alliance?

overtyrant wrote:
I thought they were already part of the Death Grand Alliance?

Not exactly. IIRC many armies were listed as legacy (for example Teclis) and not fitting alleigances from the Alliances.

Found what looks to be the pricing for the repacks. It figures GW's prices would go up! SHAME GW! SHAME!

Varenguard hunters (10man) $60

Griffon hounds (x6) $25

Liberators (10man) $62

Judicators (10man) $62

Prosecutors (6man) $74

Battletome (updates of ALL stormcast) $40 or $50

War scrolls (includes some tokens too?) $25

Deathworld Forrest (huge terrain set) $130

Daedalus81 wrote:
Found what looks to be the pricing for the repacks. It figures GW's prices would go up! SHAME GW! SHAME!

Varenguard hunters (10man) $60

Griffon hounds (x6) $25

Liberators (10man) $62

Judicators (10man) $62

Prosecutors (6man) $74

Battletome (updates of ALL stormcast) $40 or $50

War scrolls (includes some tokens too?) $25

Deathworld Forrest (huge terrain set) $130

You do realise that liberators and judicators where 5-men before, and prosecutors were 3-men.

Unless you were being sarcastic, then nevermind me.

Daedalus81 wrote:
Found what looks to be the pricing for the repacks. It figures GW's prices would go up! SHAME GW! SHAME!

You do realize that those kits now have more models in each kit, so the price per model went down.

 Ghaz wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
Found what looks to be the pricing for the repacks. It figures GW's prices would go up! SHAME GW! SHAME!

You do realize that those kits now have more models in each kit, so the price per model went down.

No, this is clearly a trick. These are going to be stripped down kits and they are charging us more! And don't even get me started on the NZ prices!

Daedalus81 wrote:
Found what looks to be the pricing for the repacks. It figures GW's prices would go up! SHAME GW! SHAME!

Varenguard hunters (10man) $60

Griffon hounds (x6) $25

Liberators (10man) $62

Judicators (10man) $62

Prosecutors (6man) $74

Battletome (updates of ALL stormcast) $40 or $50

War scrolls (includes some tokens too?) $25

Deathworld Forrest (huge terrain set) $130

Liberators and Judicators went from $10/model to $6.2/model (38% price decrease) Prosecutors went from $20/model to $12.3/model (38.5% decrease).

 Ghaz wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This also includes a points increase for tomb kings. This is all great news. It is proof that they are not abandoning compendium armies. It will also be good to see the meta change.

Look at the section that the Necrosphynx, etc. are listed under. Its 'Grand Alliance Death' and not 'Tomb Kings':

Magmadroth changes make them pretty good, actually. With the difference in price of the old Runefather to new one, you can get a block of any of the troops, which is pretty good throughput.

Still doesn't make them super great, very vulnerable to shooting and MWs, but more affordable = better.

Ghaz wrote:

Chikout wrote:
This also includes a points increase for tomb kings. This is all great news. It is proof that they are not abandoning compendium armies. It will also be good to see the meta change.

Look at the section that the Necrosphynx, etc. are listed under. Its 'Grand Alliance Death' and not 'Tomb Kings':

Spoiler:

I wouldn't look anything into that. It could just be made for the updates to try out. Samething for the Fyreslayers? Don't they have their own Battletomb? If not what I am going to say next doesn't matter then. It's listed under Order. So maybe this is just a quick reference sheet that has changes to them and need to be tried out.

Good thing is, no armies are going anywhere or being squatted as a few people tired to say would happen.

Nice to see price reductions and nice to see Fyreslayer point reductions!

I hope when the Duardin get redone they have a super battletome that combines Fyreslayers and all the kits get price reductions too. £40 for a box of Longbeards, Ironbreakers or Vulkite Beserkers all seems good to me!