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It amazes me that the military is so pro-Repubican. After all, the Republicans are generally the ones that send them off to war let them get blown up, but want to cut funding for the VA and such after they come back hurt and need help.
3. Speaking of US politics. This new CNN series is awesome. It has a moderator go into their world. They did a show of the KKK. The first thirtyish minutes is on fakey Klan (hipster Klan), but the second half is on good old fashioned real Klan guys. If you want a periscope into another world the US must continue to leave behind, this is a good one. Did I mention the moderator is black comedian?
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/04/07/series-usoa-trailer-episode1-kkk.cnn-creative-marketing
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Someone wants Bernie Sanders supporters to feel the burn — in their skin, filling their nostrils and in their lungs, even to the point of death.
A short infographic pulled straight from the Anarchist Cookbook called "How to make Bernie Sander's Glowsticks!" [sic] found its way to Tumblr, DeviantArt and Reddit in the past 48 hours.
Ostensibly, it's a guide to making small, blue glow sticks. It's even stamped with a fake "Bernie Sanders approves!" message at the bottom.
These instructions do not tell you how to make glow sticks. These are instructions for how to make a deadly chlorine bomb.
"Signal boost," one Tumblr user posted, warning others from taking the meme seriously. "Don't do this. It seems like it was made by someone to encourage people to hurt/kill themselves."
Here's what would actually happen if you made them. The instructions require you to mix a swimming-pool-chlorinating tablet with isopropyl alcohol, then shake the ingredients together inside of a closed bottle. The chemical reaction rapidly generates enough chlorine gas to cause a pressurized explosion in the bottle, releasing the gas into the air.
If the lungs are exposed to enough chlorine gas, it begins to attack the respiratory system and can cause the lungs to fill with fluid until the victim asphyxiates.
gonna be a long few months....
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
skyth wrote: It amazes me that the military is so pro-Repubican. After all, the Republicans are generally the ones that send them off to war let them get blown up, but want to cut funding for the VA and such after they come back hurt and need help.
I voted for Bush 1 because prior to him, no major war had started under a Republican President since the Spanish American War (edit thanks Ouze)
Lets review
WWI-Democrat WWII-Democrat Korea-Democrat Vietnam-Democrat Panama-Republican (edit-thanks Ouze) US-Iraq I -Republican Kosova- Democrat Afghanistan-republican Iraq II-Republican Libya-Democrat Iraq III - Democrat
yep, you're right.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
The Vietnam War finished in 1973 (ground involvement.)
Since then ground forces have been sent to Grenada, the Gulf, Afghanistan and Iraq, all by Republican presidents. All the other involvements have been air force only, and these days even that increasingly depends on pilotless vehicles.
The other significant intervention was by US forces under UN command in Mogadishu in 1993, and the result of this was to convince the (Democrat) president to withdraw the US forces.
Thus realistically if you want to be a US ground forces personnel that a Democrat president has sent off to be shot at in a foreign coutry, you need to be an old age pensioner.
To be frank, though, I think this is a stupid pissing match. The reason any country has armed forces is because sometimes they do need to be sent off to fight whether the government of the day is left-wing or right-wing. Service people accept that as part of the business. The reasons why US and also UK armed forces tend to be conservative is due to long-standing cultural background.
skyth wrote: It amazes me that the military is so pro-Repubican. After all, the Republicans are generally the ones that send them off to war let them get blown up, but want to cut funding for the VA and such after they come back hurt and need help.
Sit through as many cultural sensitivity training PowerPoints as the modern military has to, and you'll be a Republican in no time.
The left lost the military with their treatment of Vietnam vets in the '60s and '70s and Carter's neglect, and basically hasn't done anything to win it back since. I think the general perception of Democrats as anti-military is pretty widespread, no? You're generally not going to win someone's vote when you're trying to get rid of their job, or the tools they need to do it.
An anecdotal example of Democrats just not getting it when it comes to the military is Bush landing on the carrier. Democrats scoffed at it as a stunt. We knew it was a stunt, too, and some guys though it was dumb, but I'd say the majority thought it was pretty cool that the president of the United States wanted to cosplay as us. The dude had an unfeigned enthusiasm for the military, and that counts.
skyth wrote: It amazes me that the military is so pro-Repubican. After all, the Republicans are generally the ones that send them off to war let them get blown up, but want to cut funding for the VA and such after they come back hurt and need help.
I voted for Bush 1 because prior to him, no Republican President had started a major war since the Spanish American War.
Lets review
WWI-Democrat
WWII-Democrat
Korea-Democrat
Vietnam-Democrat
US-Iraq I -Republican
Kosova- Democrat
Afghanistan-republican
Iraq II-Republican
Libya-Democrat
Iraq III - Democrat
yep, you're right.
Notice you didn't say anything about the main point, which is cutting benefits to wounded soldiers once they come back...
Also, it's a little odd to claim a US president of either stripe started WW2 or the invasion of Afghanistan.
Panama-thanks! will update.
Fair point, my intent was that the President at the time.
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Kilkrazy wrote: It's not as straightforwards as you make it look.
The Vietnam War finished in 1973 (ground involvement.)
Since then ground forces have been sent to Grenada, the Gulf, Afghanistan and Iraq, all by Republican presidents. All the other involvements have been air force only, and these days even that increasingly depends on pilotless vehicles.
The other significant intervention was by US forces under UN command in Mogadishu in 1993, and the result of this was to convince the (Democrat) president to withdraw the US forces.
Thus realistically if you want to be a US ground forces personnel that a Democrat president has sent off to be shot at in a foreign coutry, you need to be an old age pensioner.
To be frank, though, I think this is a stupid pissing match. The reason any country has armed forces is because sometimes they do need to be sent off to fight whether the government of the day is left-wing or right-wing. Service people accept that as part of the business. The reasons why US and also UK armed forces tend to be conservative is due to long-standing cultural background.
Sorry I don't distinguish between stabbing someone in the heart and killing them from 10,000 feet. I doubt they do either. Those forces are also guided by personnel on the ground. Don't kid yourself.
skyth wrote: It amazes me that the military is so pro-Repubican. After all, the Republicans are generally the ones that send them off to war let them get blown up, but want to cut funding for the VA and such after they come back hurt and need help.
I voted for Bush 1 because prior to him, no Republican President had started a major war since the Spanish American War.
Lets review
WWI-Democrat WWII-Democrat Korea-Democrat Vietnam-Democrat US-Iraq I -Republican Kosova- Democrat Afghanistan-republican Iraq II-Republican Libya-Democrat Iraq III - Democrat
yep, you're right.
Notice you didn't say anything about the main point, which is cutting benefits to wounded soldiers once they come back...
I don't see the VA being fixed. Should I blame Obama? Why are you playing this game when clearly you will lose. Can we get back to the topic now?
Its going to suck for you to vote for Hillary knowing she's more right wing than the Republican candidate or Obama. Feel the Bern!
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Kilkrazy wrote: It's not up to you, though, it's up to the people involved to decide how they feel about it.
Considering the number of terrorist attacks, I think we have a good sense of how they feel about it.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
If we outlaw toddlers then only criminals will have toddlers!
The thousands killed by ISIL might want to have a word with you about your statistics.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
President Barack Obama will travel to Hiroshima this month in the first visit by a sitting American president to the site where the U.S. dropped an atomic bomb.
The White House announced the visit in a statement Tuesday morning, saying Obama will visit along with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe during a previously scheduled visit to Japan.
Obama’s visit will “highlight his continued commitment to pursuing the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapon,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said. The U.S. bombing at Hiroshima killed 140,000 Japanese on Aug. 6, 1945.
The White House has ruled out the possibility that Obama will apologize for the bombing of Hiroshima.
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Why would he not apologize, seems like the right thing to do. Speaking of that, has there ever been an official apology?
Apologize for what?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Someone wants Bernie Sanders supporters to feel the burn — in their skin, filling their nostrils and in their lungs, even to the point of death.
A short infographic pulled straight from the Anarchist Cookbook called "How to make Bernie Sander's Glowsticks!" [sic] found its way to Tumblr, DeviantArt and Reddit in the past 48 hours.
Ostensibly, it's a guide to making small, blue glow sticks. It's even stamped with a fake "Bernie Sanders approves!" message at the bottom.
These instructions do not tell you how to make glow sticks. These are instructions for how to make a deadly chlorine bomb.
"Signal boost," one Tumblr user posted, warning others from taking the meme seriously. "Don't do this. It seems like it was made by someone to encourage people to hurt/kill themselves."
Here's what would actually happen if you made them. The instructions require you to mix a swimming-pool-chlorinating tablet with isopropyl alcohol, then shake the ingredients together inside of a closed bottle. The chemical reaction rapidly generates enough chlorine gas to cause a pressurized explosion in the bottle, releasing the gas into the air.
If the lungs are exposed to enough chlorine gas, it begins to attack the respiratory system and can cause the lungs to fill with fluid until the victim asphyxiates.
gonna be a long few months....
Not trying to start gak, but most likely Trump supporters. They've already shown they're perfectly okay with physical violence (look at several of his rallies, where they've punched/pushed people). This is right up there with their mob mentality.
Co'tor Shas wrote: Why would he not apologize, seems like the right thing to do. Speaking of that, has there ever been an official apology?
Apologize for what?
Nuking two cities? I mean, although justifed by war, thousands of civilians were killed or otherwise harmed. Something along the lines of "I wish this could have been prevented".
Co'tor Shas wrote: I mean, although justified by war, thousands of civilians were killed or otherwise harmed. Something along the lines of "I wish this could have been prevented".
Sure, I'd have no problem with a more generalized sentiment expressing sadness or empathy. It's a tricky semantic line to walk all around though.
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Why would he not apologize, seems like the right thing to do. Speaking of that, has there ever been an official apology?
Apologize for what?
Nuking two cities? I mean, although justifed by war, thousands of civilians were killed or otherwise harmed. Something along the lines of "I wish this could have been prevented".
Nuking two cities? I mean, although justifed by war, thousands of civilians were killed or otherwise harmed. Something along the lines of "I wish this could have been prevented".
Here you go:
"I'm sorry the Empire of Japan stupidly attacked us, killed thousands of our citizens and forced us to beat your brains in for four years until you quit committing war crimes. I am sorry the Empire of Japan's actions directly led to the death of millions of Chinese, Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Koreans, Laotians, Cambodians, Malayans, Burmese, Singaporeans, and hundreds of thousands of Japanese citizens. I am sorry that it took the Allies four years to stop this global horror, this global tragedy from continuing. I am sorry for the men, women, and children, who suffered and died as a result of the Empire of Japan's insane policies and actions, and the suffering they endured until the Empire of Japan was destroyed. I am not sorry that today we stand together, as allies, as two democracies, as friends across the Pacific. "
wow, thats pretty good. I should be a speech writer instead of world renowned lover and Renaissance Neanderthal.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I've read some pf Horowitz's books (like Destructive Generation).
I'm fully convinced that HRC will win handily.
So, I'm at the "feth it" mindset.
I get the view that HRC will make more lasting change, probably for the worst.
I also get that Trump *may* making lasting changes for the worst.
But, my heart isn't in it.
HRC would have to collapse in the same vein as Romney did in '12. I don't see that happening... (edit: well, that's not right, Romney never really had a strong lead, but the perception was that it was Romeny's election to lose. The DNC/Obama's ground game kicked epic arse in '12)
Nuking two cities? I mean, although justifed by war, thousands of civilians were killed or otherwise harmed. Something along the lines of "I wish this could have been prevented".
Here you go: "I'm sorry the Empire of Japan stupidly attacked us, killed thousands of our citizens and forced us to beat your brains in for four years until you quit committing war crimes. I am sorry the Empire of Japan's actions directly led to the death of millions of Chinese, Filipinos, Thais, Vietnamese, Koreans, Laotians, Cambodians, Malayans, Burmese, Singaporeans, and hundreds of thousands of Japanese citizens. I am sorry that it took the Allies four years to stop this global horror, this global tragedy from continuing. I am sorry for the men, women, and children, who suffered and died as a result of the Empire of Japan's insane policies and actions, and the suffering they endured until the Empire of Japan was destroyed. I am not sorry that today we stand together, as allies, as two democracies, as friends across the Pacific. "
wow, thats pretty good. I should be a speech writer instead of world renowned lover and Renaissance Neanderthal.
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Yet another reason I cannot, and will not, in good conscience vote for her.
Spoiler:
Hillary Clinton weighed in on her 1975 legal defense of an accused child rapist on Saturday, her first comments on the case since it came under scrutiny following a Washington Free Beacon report last month.
Clinton spoke in clinical, legal terms while explaining her defense of the rapist, who Clinton helped to avoid a lengthy prison term by relying on a technicality relating to the chain of evidence of his blood-soaked underwear, as well as arguing at the time that the 12-year-old victim may have exaggerated or encouraged the attack.
“When you are a lawyer, you often don’t have the choice as to who you will represent, and by the very nature of criminal law there will be those who you represent that you don’t approve of,” said Clinton in an interview published on Friday with Mumsnet, an online forum for parents in the UK.
“But at least in our system you have an obligation, and once I was appointed I fulfilled that obligation,” she added.
The Free Beacon reported in June on previously unpublished audio tapes from the 1980s that revealed Clinton laughing while discussing her successful effort to secure a plea bargain for her client and suggesting she believed the 41-year-old man was guilty of rape.
“I had him take a polygraph, which he passed—which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs,” said Clinton, laughing.
The audio recordings are part of a collection of interviews with the Clintons conducted by Arkansas reporter Roy Reed in the 1980s, which are housed at the University of Arkansas special collections library. They were opened to the public in January.
Clinton’s defense strategy also included aggressive claims about the victim’s character, including allegations that the 12-year-old “sought out older men” and was “emotionally unstable,” according to court documents first reported by Newsday in 2008.
Clinton told Mumsnet on Friday that she was appointed to the case and petitioned the judge to remove her, but her request was denied.
“I asked to be relieved of that responsibility but I was not and I had a professional duty to represent my client to the best of my ability, which I did,” said Clinton.
The response appears to be at odds with Clinton’s comments to Reed in the 1980s. She told Reed in the recordings that the local prosecutor, Mahlon Gibson, asked her to take the on case as a personal favor.
“The prosecutor called me a few years ago, he said he had a guy who had been accused of rape, and the guy wanted a woman lawyer,” said Clinton. “Would I do it as a favor to him?”
However, Gibson, who did not respond to earlier inquiries by the Free Beacon, told a different story to CNN. He said Clinton was appointed by the judge and did not want to take the client.
According to Gibson, Clinton called him after the appointment and asked him to help get her out of the case.
The question of why and how Clinton ended up serving as the attorney for accused child rapist Thomas Alfred Taylor in 1975 is still murky.
At the time, Clinton was running a newly formed legal aid clinic at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, which provided legal services to clients who could not afford to pay.
Taylor’s case was initially assigned to the local public defender, but, according to several accounts, Taylor insisted he wanted a female attorney instead.
Taylor “started screaming for a woman attorney,” Gibson told CNN in a June 25 interview.
However, in another June 25 interview with Talk Business & Politics, Gibson said he did not know why the public defender was replaced.
“The public defender was appointed to represent him and for some reason the public defender, I guess, wanted off or couldn’t handle it, I don’t know what the problem was there,” said Gibson.
Clinton offered yet another variation of the events leading to her taking the case in her autobiography Living History, saying the judge appointed her to the case after Gibson recommended her.
“One day the Washington County prosecuting attorney, Mahlon Gibson, called to tell me an indigent prisoner accused of raping a 12-year-old girl wanted a woman lawyer,” wrote Clinton. “Gibson had recommended that the criminal court judge, Maupin Cummings, appoint me.”
She wrote that she “didn’t feel comfortable” taking the client, but Gibson told her she could not refuse a request from the judge. Clinton had, until this weekend, never previously suggested that she actively sought to be removed as counsel.
Gibson said he had never spoken to Clinton prior to that 1975 phone call, and has not spoken to her since.
“I’ve had one conversation in my life with Hillary Clinton that I can remember, and I think that’s the only one I ever had really,” Gibson told Talk Business & Politics.
Clinton ran the local legal aid clinic in Gibson’s district from 1974 until 1977, according to biographical accounts.
Gibson did not return the Free Beacon’s requests for comment prior to publication of the “Hillary Tapes” story.
Clinton told Reed in the 1980s that she was able to strike a favorable plea agreement for her client after the prosecution lost crucial DNA evidence that linked Taylor to the crime.
Taylor was sentenced to one year in jail, with two months off for time served. He had been facing 30 years to life in prison for first-degree rape.
The University of Arkansas barred the Free Beacon from conducting research at its special collections archives after the “Hillary Tapes” story was published in June, arguing that the news outlet broke library policy by failing to get permission to publish.
Library dean Carolyn Henderson Allen, a Hillary Clinton donor, demanded in a June 17 letter that the Free Beacon “cease and desist your ongoing violation of the intellectual property rights of the University of Arkansas with regard to your unauthorized publication of audio recordings obtained from the Roy Reed Collection.”
However, the library now says it does not hold the copyright for Roy Reed’s interviews.
Reed told NWA Online that he does not object to the Free Beacon publishing excerpts from the recordings.
“I don’t see anything wrong with that. I certainly don’t object to it,” Reed said last Thursday.
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I don't know about her specifically, but I have heard quite a few lawyers speak about defending unpopular, and even guilty, people.
Their main concern is not to get the person off, their main concern is to make sure the State does everything the correct and constitutional way. If the person gets convicted, and their work during the trial results in a conviction that will hold up to appeals because their work got rid of any grounds for appeal, then they consider their work a good thing.
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