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And f. yeah Kroot! Honestly was hoping for a Kroot mercs book but I'll take an expansion of them as a subfaction within the Tau just as well.
I wonder if GW just needs to get new Kroot out as a subfaction of the main book to generate enough attention and sales to get the numbers up enough to justify a whole second book of their own.
I've long thought that Tau should splinter like that, just like Tyranids and Genestealer Cults did; however it might be that Kroot models are just so old of date and overshadowed that they are way under selling and won't justify that amount of investment on their own. Esp since things like Vespid are about the only other non tau models in their line right now.
And f. yeah Kroot! Honestly was hoping for a Kroot mercs book but I'll take an expansion of them as a subfaction within the Tau just as well.
I wonder if GW just needs to get new Kroot out as a subfaction of the main book to generate enough attention and sales to get the numbers up enough to justify a whole second book of their own.
I've long thought that Tau should splinter like that, just like Tyranids and Genestealer Cults did; however it might be that Kroot models are just so old of date and overshadowed that they are way under selling and won't justify that amount of investment on their own. Esp since things like Vespid are about the only other non tau models in their line right now.
If they tap into something like Yautja Kroot they will sell like hotcakes on a cold winter day!
And f. yeah Kroot! Honestly was hoping for a Kroot mercs book but I'll take an expansion of them as a subfaction within the Tau just as well.
I wonder if GW just needs to get new Kroot out as a subfaction of the main book to generate enough attention and sales to get the numbers up enough to justify a whole second book of their own.
I've long thought that Tau should splinter like that, just like Tyranids and Genestealer Cults did; however it might be that Kroot models are just so old of date and overshadowed that they are way under selling and won't justify that amount of investment on their own. Esp since things like Vespid are about the only other non tau models in their line right now.
If they tap into something like Yautja Kroot they will sell like hotcakes on a cold winter day!
Yeah! The other thing is if Kroot become the new core of a separate force, it means that they can really go wild with models without ending up bloating the Tau army itself and the Tau army can focus heavily on the mechs with a few Kroot units thrown in here and there. Just like how Tyranids can have a core of Genestealer models, but isn't swamped by the whole Cult army in itself - and the same for the Cult (actually double for the cult in terms of not being swamped by either tyranids and/or Imperial Guard models)
Looks like some new terrain @ timestamp 2.43 (stacked, right-hand side of image) and @ 3.50 (single, right-hand side again).
A new container, with two different hatch/door designs ?
Nicely spotted, could just be for in-house photos but also seems like it's designed to would work well for injection moulding. Could be for a future Kill Team terrain release, since the terrain set for the Scouts vs SS set is a new rendition of the old sector mechanicus terrain I wouldn't be surprised if they also make a new rendition of the munitorum containers
I mean it could be, or it couldn't and be something entirely else.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Huh hell yeah with kroot if that is true. I actually just ordered the old old kit last week on sale to slow build an auxilliary based tau army over the next few years. If both new kroot and new vespids is true, that would definitely be a plus - the old kroot are good enough for something to batch paint quickly and mixing in with the kill team make them pop out a bit more, but the vespids are just...not that good looking.
Kroot Mercs expansion for Tau would be great. Then just need Vespids and Sniper drone squad in resin, and hopefully a remastered tank kit like how the Russ and Chimaera got updated.
MajorWesJanson wrote: Kroot Mercs expansion for Tau would be great. Then just need Vespids and Sniper drone squad in resin, and hopefully a remastered tank kit like how the Russ and Chimaera got updated.
It would also give them room to add other Xeno races who have joined the Tau as well. Kroot forming the core and then specialist Xenos, like the Vespids around the edge. Potentially with a few custom armies within. Ergo you could go pure Kroot; or one or two other aliens might have enough to build up to having battleline options in their own theme list etc...
To me that just sounds like the worst parts of early AoS's mini factions. Tau auxiliaries are meant to supplement a core of Tau by shoring up weaknesses of the blue guys. Even back when we had the Chapter Approved Kroot list, there wasn't a whole lot to the army. The lack of diversity and tactical tools meant that basically any Kroot army looked the same, loaded up on maximum Fast Attack mobs that could first turn charge and at least try to level the playing field between them and fully fleshed out armies.
And that's just Kroot that actually have a number of different units. In spite of the unfortunate focus on giant robots since the early days, the Tau army isn't overflowing with units to the point that you would have to take auxiliaries out and shove them in their own book. They're better off integrated into the core army, if for no other reason than that a separate codex is bound to lead to no interaction of rules/keywords because the rules writers suck at that stuff. You'll get an army that doesn't function well on its own and likely doesn't compete with the giant robots either.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
i would rather see more auxilaries added to the Tau army. Gue'vesa for example (Human PDF troops), which used to have a chapter approved entry. or Tarellian dog-soldiers, Morallian Deathsworn, or Thraxians (bug people which supply melee units)
we've had a number of mentions of other auxiliaries beyond kroot and vespid, but never inclusion into the game.
Space wolves will likely take until the end of the edition but should be getting big things.
Blood Angels with new Sanguinary Priest and Sanguinary Guard but no idea when they will release
Dark Angels, in addition to the old rumours about Deathwing stuff they will get a new combat patrol: five hellblasters, ten intercessors, three bladeguard and gravis captain. There will also be a new upgrade sprue
Horus Heresy should get a new battlebox but Valrak still wants so get some more information bevor telling more.
Kill Team scouts vs SS will be next preorder on the 9th
Tau will get a big release for Kroot, also a new melee etherial? Either new combat patrol or new launch box with 20 new kroot, 2 new characters, cavalry and a big gun all dedicated to kroot
Valrak elaborated a bit more on the 40k rumours in his newest video:
Dark Angels:
The boxset with terminators, deathwing knights and belial seems to be an army set thats coming earlier than the full DA release. Should be coming in January.
DA upgrade kit will be like the Black Templar and Cadian upgrades and apparently will have Ravenwing upgrade parts in there.
Tau:
One of the kroot characters is riding something and the melee ethereal seems to be a commemorative series model, could be the new store birthday model for next year?
The rest of the video is just theorizing and not actual rumours anymore
Gotta say I am more than a little grumpy that Obyron got cut from the Necron codex. I loved him a couple codex's ago, back when his Ghostwalk mantle was a glorified second Veil of Darkness and you could have two units bouncing around.
Having him be gone now is just frustrating. Making him count as either a generic Lychguard or an overlord is stretching it one way or another.
The codex does seem better overall, but it kinda bums me out.
cuda1179 wrote: Gotta say I am more than a little grumpy that Obyron got cut from the Necron codex. I loved him a couple codex's ago, back when his Ghostwalk mantle was a glorified second Veil of Darkness and you could have two units bouncing around.
Having him be gone now is just frustrating. Making him count as either a generic Lychguard or an overlord is stretching it one way or another.
The codex does seem better overall, but it kinda bums me out.
This has been the whole edition in a nutshell for me. It's probably better now that things are cleaner (in theory anyway), but so many things I liked about the game as it was are being killed off now. I don't play Necrons, Heck, I'll freely admit I find them (and to a lesser extent their players) annoying to play against, but but it does sadden me to see Old Man Kandrekh and his Minder gone.
we're feeling the result of a situation that GW created for themselves: making so many characters in finecast that need to be updated or cut.
Even with some updated and some cut, we're still waiting on Trazyn and a few other things to get updated out of Necron to make the faction 'complete' at least in the plastic model sense, and that's the case with many other codexes.
Makes me wonder what may get cut or what may get updated from future codexes. Drukhari might get updated Grotesques but end up sacrificing the Beastmaster and all his beasts. Sisters of Battle may get updated Priests, but say goodbye to Death Cult Assassins. Who knows.
drbored wrote: we're feeling the result of a situation that GW created for themselves: making so many characters in finecast that need to be updated or cut.
Even with some updated and some cut, we're still waiting on Trazyn and a few other things to get updated out of Necron to make the faction 'complete' at least in the plastic model sense, and that's the case with many other codexes.
Makes me wonder what may get cut or what may get updated from future codexes. Drukhari might get updated Grotesques but end up sacrificing the Beastmaster and all his beasts. Sisters of Battle may get updated Priests, but say goodbye to Death Cult Assassins. Who knows.
I know it hits a dead horse a bit but Primaris Lieutenants and Captains and Space Marine Heroes show that GW could replace any Failcast character in any other army within half a year if they wanted to. (I also know there are even some SM chars in failcast left which is even more puzzling).
I know it hits a dead horse a bit but Primaris Lieutenants and Captains and Space Marine Heroes show that GW could replace any Failcast character in any other army within half a year if they wanted to. (I also know there are even some SM chars in failcast left which is even more puzzling).
The thinking heads at GW must think that brand new space marines characters move more boxes off the shelves then old finecast marines. Even named ones ?
chaos0xomega wrote: Curious what the HH battlebox will be, battlebox usually means two opposed armies, as opposed to battleforce which means one army - unless they consider like the Age of Darkness box to be a battlebox because its technically half Imperial Fists half Sons of Horus?
They are doing quite a lot of characters with mkiv armour now so wouldn't be surprise if it's just box to introduce new version of mkiv armour much like mkiii got now.
drbored wrote: we're feeling the result of a situation that GW created for themselves: making so many characters in finecast that need to be updated or cut.
Even with some updated and some cut, we're still waiting on Trazyn and a few other things to get updated out of Necron to make the faction 'complete' at least in the plastic model sense, and that's the case with many other codexes.
Makes me wonder what may get cut or what may get updated from future codexes. Drukhari might get updated Grotesques but end up sacrificing the Beastmaster and all his beasts. Sisters of Battle may get updated Priests, but say goodbye to Death Cult Assassins. Who knows.
I know it hits a dead horse a bit but Primaris Lieutenants and Captains and Space Marine Heroes show that GW could replace any Failcast character in any other army within half a year if they wanted to. (I also know there are even some SM chars in failcast left which is even more puzzling).
You assume Oberon etc would sell as much as marine models
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tneva82 wrote: You assume Oberon etc would sell as much as marine models
Why even have other armies at all?
Just scrap all of them and make the game Marines vs. Marines, as they are apparently the only models that anyone ever buys.
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
tneva82 wrote: You assume Oberon etc would sell as much as marine models
Why even have other armies at all?
Just scrap all of them and make the game Marines vs. Marines, as they are apparently the only models that anyone ever buys.
Despite having produced a plastic kit GW also made 28 different monopose models of plastic Plague Marines.
As a DG Player I'm happy about that but If they can do that for a subfaction it makes you wonder.
And to answer tneva: yes, I do think Oberon would sell more than "Plague Marine with an Icon" which you can get far cheaper in a troop box or "Plague Champion with fist" which you have already 3 of if you only bought the starter kits in 8th.
chaos0xomega wrote: Curious what the HH battlebox will be, battlebox usually means two opposed armies, as opposed to battleforce which means one army - unless they consider like the Age of Darkness box to be a battlebox because its technically half Imperial Fists half Sons of Horus?
They are doing quite a lot of characters with mkiv armour now so wouldn't be surprise if it's just box to introduce new version of mkiv armour much like mkiii got now.
drbored wrote: we're feeling the result of a situation that GW created for themselves: making so many characters in finecast that need to be updated or cut.
Even with some updated and some cut, we're still waiting on Trazyn and a few other things to get updated out of Necron to make the faction 'complete' at least in the plastic model sense, and that's the case with many other codexes.
Makes me wonder what may get cut or what may get updated from future codexes. Drukhari might get updated Grotesques but end up sacrificing the Beastmaster and all his beasts. Sisters of Battle may get updated Priests, but say goodbye to Death Cult Assassins. Who knows.
I know it hits a dead horse a bit but Primaris Lieutenants and Captains and Space Marine Heroes show that GW could replace any Failcast character in any other army within half a year if they wanted to. (I also know there are even some SM chars in failcast left which is even more puzzling).
You assume Oberon etc would sell as much as marine models
Well I doun't doubt he would come in a set with Zahndrekh.
But yeah I think that would do better that Primaris Lieutenant number #122233 only this one has a slightly different hat.
Trazyn definately would. He's easily the Necrons most popular character.
The fact that Trazyn didn't get a new mini and hasn't been removed from the new Codex implies to me that he has one, but he's delayed for some event or something.
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