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I mean if I brought 6 flyers in a list you'd still play against it right? I wouldn't be being a total douche would I? I mean they're just Dakkajets.
   
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I would, but I wouldn't expect to win, or even do all that much damage. I'd probably just try and bring a wicked alpha strike list to blow you off the board before the flyers come in. Would I play that more than once? Unliekely.

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I would play against it.

But I always bring an ADL and Gun Emplacement, so I have some anti air. Of course that is if I do not bring my Storm Raven.

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6 dakkajets isn't that gittish.

A bit gittish, but not that bad.

Dakkajets are so fragile that they'll not last long after their waagh-fuelled zoom on, and i's fair odds at least two will miss the waagh turn coming on from reserves and be a tad unimpressive.

6 Vendettas OTOH..

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 Ascalam wrote:
6 dakkajets isn't that gittish.

A bit gittish, but not that bad.

Dakkajets are so fragile that they'll not last long after their waagh-fuelled zoom on, and i's fair odds at least two will miss the waagh turn coming on from reserves and be a tad unimpressive.

6 Vendettas OTOH..


I know right? Its not like I've got lascannons or baleflamers or cannons that shoot ninjas with laser swords.
   
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I ran 6 Burnabommas against an Eldar list the other day. (albiet at 3500 pts)

All the troop choices were either Jetbikes or Pathfinders, revelling in their groovy cover saves.

Many many napalm missiles later, toasted pointy-ears was the snack of choice

His tanks did a number on mine though, so there weren't that many ladz left to indulge by the time i won

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My friend did this too me once. Little did he know, I knew he was doing this (He used my credit card to buy the damn things >.> albeit payed me back but.. lol)

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If you WANTED to be a prick with spamming fliers, just play IG and take 3 Squadrons of 3xVendettas or Valks... That'd be 27 Twin-Linked Lascannon shots per round on true fliers with the capacity to lug around 12 Veterans or Stormtroopers. I feel like that would be overdoing it with fliers...

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I'd play it. And when I win I'd demand one as a trophy of my domination.

@yipjoh it's 27 lascannons per against only 3 targets. That's not as bad as you think especially since there only bs3.

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Chancetragedy wrote:
I'd play it. And when I win I'd demand one as a trophy of my domination.

@yipjoh it's 27 lascannons per against only 3 targets. That's not as bad as you think especially since there only bs3.


In only 3 slots though. If you wanted to max it out then consider it 54 lascannon shots against 6 separate targets. A bit better, that's still an average of 6.75 hits per target (adjusted for twin-linked). And there's not a whole lot can stand up to a lascannon, so I'd consider that an obnoxious enough attack. I can't wait to try it next game now

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Chancetragedy wrote:
I'd play it. And when I win I'd demand one as a trophy of my domination.

@yipjoh it's 27 lascannons per against only 3 targets. That's not as bad as you think especially since there only bs3.


And with every lascanon hits he does, he's sure to do damage, unless ones are still an auto miss on pen, in that case he's sure to make pens.

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I'd play it, challenge extends one.

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I know right? Its not like I've got lascannons or baleflamers or cannons that shoot ninjas with laser swords.

Though i wish they did.

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Its not that I think you're being a poor kind of player, playing fliers doesn't make you a bad player or a douchebag. I just don't like what they've done to the game. Not a fan of some of these newer rules, fliers especially.


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djphranq wrote:
I mean if I brought 6 flyers in a list you'd still play against it right? I wouldn't be being a total douche would I? I mean they're just Dakkajets.


Small tip: if you think you'd be taken as a douche, you just may be right...
   
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6 Dakkajets is more of an annoyance than an overpowered tactic. Theyre strong and hit like crazy, yes (mine tend to hit 80% or more of their shots even on WAAAGH power trips...the few times i run them...) but theyre AV10 so i'd be VERY surprised if they didnt die if they were deemed a threat and focused.

Only time i thought about 6 dakkajets was to do a dickpunch to a local Nidz player that loves double foc abuse. We rolled no fliers though, so i bought 60 lootas

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I would play I don't care.

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I know a guy who will play 2 vultures, a vendetta, 2 avengers and a thunderbolt.

Thats his standard for most lists, friendly or competitive.

Its a pain to play against but I just play to objectives and win, he cant win if I kill his ground forces.

Now I dont know you, but I will assume you're a nice guy. So I would play you.
   
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It would be a challenge but fun, Quad Gun would be working hard for its points

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Q: What points level?

What else are you bringing?

We have one player who cosistantly brings a WAAC vendetta list for all games and he is considered a dick for doing so - in fact at least one player refuses to play him.

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I think it would be entirely dependant on how much of a douche the person is about winning.

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I'd play it but not many times. I have a strong personal belief in semi-competitive play, which in my mind means trying to win but not sacrificing the fun and spirit of the game. When I see people taking more than two of a unit that isn't troops (3 BA assault squads is cool but 3 BA vindicators isn't) i lose interest in playing with that individual. Of course everyone has there own feelings about how the game should be played but I certainly wouldn't appreciate someone bringing 6 flyers to a game. It seems one dimensional and boring to fight.

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I think dakkajet's would be the only flyer i'd be ok with seeing spammed like that.

I mean, it's not like it's 6 below 2000 points. 3 at 1999 points and below, is cool in my books, 6 at 2000+ points, is also cool in my book.

Now, if it were other flyers, i'd just get sad.
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
Q: What points level?

What else are you bringing?

We have one player who cosistantly brings a WAAC vendetta list for all games and he is considered a dick for doing so - in fact at least one player refuses to play him.


Kinda funny that people make personal judgement on others based on what toys they choose to play with.

Not really a fair thing to do.

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 Ascalam wrote:
6 dakkajets isn't that gittish.
A bit gittish, but not that bad.
Dakkajets are so fragile that they'll not last long after their waagh-fuelled zoom on, and i's fair odds at least two will miss the waagh turn coming on from reserves and be a tad unimpressive.
6 Vendettas OTOH..

Eh, against some lists/armies 6 Dakkajets is far more dangerous than 6 Vendettas. Take... Dark Eldar maybe? Lots of low toughness and low armor value things. Lascannons are overkill. And you only hit with two per Vendetta per turn on average. Instead you can get a Dakkajet getting ~13-14 S6 hits on a Waaagh which is enough to do 4 glances/penetrations on AV11. Even as a SM player that's obviously quite enough to kill a Vindicator or a Predator (and it's not hard to hit the side armor since the front arc is quite narrow). And then there's of course infantry, with AP4 many units wouldn't get a save at all unless they have a cover save.

Overall Vendettas, while undercosted, are most definitely not the flyer I dread facing. I'd rather face a Vendetta than a Heldrake or Doomscythe any day, no question about it whatsoever

Thing of it is, I just don't get why anyone would want to use 6 flyers. Flyer spam is a boooooooring, annoying list not just to face, but also to play. I COULD use up to 5 flyers at once (2 Talon, 1 Raven, 2 Vendetta), but my rule of thumb is never to use more than 3, and even that needs a 1850 point game at least. And so far I've only actually used 3 once, and that was two Talons and a Vendetta in a 3750 points Apocalypse roster - and in that game the Talons rocked, while the Vendetta didn't do... well, anything worth noting.

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Id just bring a few night scythes and 3 anni barges


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I dont really mind if its dakkajets.
They are good, but might aswell be made out of paper.

I think they canb be cummed up as one of the "nice" fliers if there is such a thing.

Crons however, they can get scary since with twin charts as they can run alot more fliers than orks.
And they are alot less friendly.

   
 
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