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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 00:31:08
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Mysterious Techpriest
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British science fiction writer Ian Watson died on April 13.
Well, I read only his four 40k novels and two short stories, but being the author of the first novel in the grim and dark weirdness of the far future he set a landmark. And while those novels were... special... I mostly liked them. And things like the fractured Emperor, the masochistic secrets of the Imperial Fists and the last chapter of Space Marine I'll always remember. Thanks for that.
My condolence to his friends and family.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2026/04/15 00:54:58
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 00:48:06
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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RIP to one of the people who shaped the tone of 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 04:33:52
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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He was very accomplished beyond his 40k novels as well, a legacy to be proud of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 09:51:48
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My first 40k fiction. Looking at my storeroom he has a lot to answer for!
What's amusing is his take on marines - twisted monastic types, is arguably far more realistic than the sanitised blank ones we have today. And its in some ways telling how much more modern fanboys are disgusted by it all and unwilling to consider why their heroes would be like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 09:58:25
Subject: Re:R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I love his work: Of course it began with the incomparable 40K novels but his many short story collections and odd little novels have meant so much to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 10:10:17
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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Yes I think although for our community known for his 40k novels his others are great too and worth a read.
Retrospectively, I think what Ian's novels did best was bring John Blanche's original vision of 40k to life in the best way possible. Yes things have changed but that's because Warhammer has existed for a long time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 10:45:58
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Was so sad to read this news. I think he gave many of us of a certain age a lifelong love of the 40k universe and certainly was the progenitor of many aspects of the setting.
Perhaps one of my favourite elements of his writing was the strong characters. I will always remember Meh' Lindi as that mysterious femme fatale. Jaq Draco, who asked too many questions and whom undoubtedly was the template for Eisenhorn and so much of the Inquisitor lore. The doughty Grimm the Squat who lived through most of it, but for a while could not hide from GW's own Inquistion. Finally Lexandro D'Arquebus, a hero and a 'thinker' (but who didn't 'thunk' too much').
I will be forever grateful for Ian's work and being taken along on his journey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 12:35:00
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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As per the other thread I'm sorry to hear that. There was certainly a piece of me that wished that he'd get an opportunity to say what might have happened in a hypothetical sequel to Chaos Child one day.
Obviously some of the setting was in flux, but I really liked the Inquisitor trilogy growing up. And it was always nice to see a book in a setting where there's a god of pleasure in which people even have sex sometimes!
RIP and best wishes to his family. He did a lot to establish the feel for what 40k is and should be appreciated for that (and his body of work outside of wargaming).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 13:14:31
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Wrexham, North Wales
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That's sad news. The Inquisitor and Space Marine novels shaped 40k background and, for me at least, 'modern' 40 novels pale in comparison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/15 17:50:00
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Phanobi
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Ian Watson, he wrote Inquisitor right? That spicy scene in it, with Meh'Lindi, left a permanent mark to me teenage years.. "Once you have reached the peak, why seek foothills?"
Indeed.
Good travels, Ian. My hat goes off to ya
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Read 28-mag.com yet? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/16 04:47:38
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
Oakland, CA
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Sad news, but the 40K universe is much, much cooler for having him create parts of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/16 07:25:39
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I spoke with him about 20yrs ago, really nice chap. We had an indepth conversation on why his novels were not being re-printed by Black Library when so many others were from the late 90'3 era. He told me GW would only re-print them if he made some changes to the novels. The one we were talking about was Space Marine.
He'd refused.
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A bit of everything really....... Titanicus, Bolt Action, Cruel Seas, Black Seas, Blood Red Skies, Kingdom Death, Relic Knights, DUST Tactics, Zombicide the lit goes on............. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/16 08:06:04
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Otiose in a Niche
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TheSecretSquig wrote:I spoke with him about 20yrs ago, really nice chap. We had an indepth conversation on why his novels were not being re-printed by Black Library when so many others were from the late 90'3 era. He told me GW would only re-print them if he made some changes to the novels. The one we were talking about was Space Marine.
He'd refused.
There was a period where they edited the Squat Grimm out of a story and replaced him with Tech Priest Grill but eventually I think all of his stories were reissued in their original form.
So if you're a fan and wondering what we're talking about:
https://www.amazon.com/Deathwing-Warhammer-000-Graham-McNeill-ebook/dp/B01N6H5HUX/
https://www.amazon.com/Space-Marine-Warhammer-40-000-ebook/dp/B01MTC21ZD/
https://www.amazon.com/Draco-Warhammer-000-Ian-Watson-ebook/dp/B01N6TYSQM/
https://www.amazon.com/Harlequin-Warhammer-40-000-Book-ebook/dp/B0B4PKGN1C/
https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Child-Inquisition-War-Book-ebook/dp/B06XPX57P5/
Deathwing is probably the best place to start, short stories written in the Rogue Trader era by various authors. Space Marine is the most disturbing of the 4 novels (home of the oft-quoted lines about ejaculating bolters and firing boarding torpedoes up Tyranid sphincters) while the 3 Inquisition Wars books are more plot focused. Still he made a point that the books should be disturbing and the world of 40k should be as alien to us as Middle Ages. So be prepared.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/16 08:30:42
Subject: Re:R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Agreed on the recommendations there. The short story he wrote in Deathwing is not a bad place to start, IMO Space Marine is required reading for any serious fan of the 40k universe. A lot of the more 'tasty' bits are often quoted on their own but make sense when you are reading in the context of the book. Watson himself is also quoted as saying the book was written for 20yr-old Goths/metalheads which were GW's target audience at that time, not younger teenagers who giggle about the buttock branding and flying up sphincters (although years later I still do) or enraged prudes who think 40k should be all killing and maming and got upset about the (not even soft porn really) sex scene.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/16 10:07:48
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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In Space Marine I think it's the same-sex attraction and affection among the characters which would upset some readers.
It is a very clear reference to Greek and Roman culture but not to everyone's taste.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/04/16 10:24:31
Subject: R.I.P. Ian Watson
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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God I loved his novels when I read them. Just perfect alien absurdism and grimdarkness in a way that made you say "yo this stuff is wild" in a way that no giggling wiki-reading in 2026 can bring you.
As others have said, the target audience where 21 year old metalheads or metalhead adjacents. Its reputation suffers mostly from its niche or shelf not being really well understood today. Its also 20% cartoonish; and I remember reading Phools Company and Myth Inc and some Pratchet the same year I was consuming Watson. Fine companion pieces in some ways.
Any slander of Watson, is in my eyes a result of people who have a more infantile view of the 40k universe;
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Let the galaxy burn. |
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