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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 01:34:56


Post by: burad


Yes, yes it is.

Regarding the desperate need for non-human novels:


Aliens being difficult to write about, since the author is in every case human.
I thoroughly enjoyed Blood & Thunder. Though it was written from the POV of the human captive, it had a good flavor for Orks in it.
More like that would be welcome, if that's what it takes to have xenos books.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 02:24:38


Post by: Melissia


That's also the issue with female characters, probably (Lindsey Priestly is their only credited female author... who has is credited for only a single story in a compilation book. They have another female author apparently... who's not given credit for contributions to any BL or GW books).

At least that particular problem can be fixed, I doubt they could convince an Eldar to write for them even if they could find one. And an Ork is right out.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 04:00:37


Post by: Savnock


Melissia wrote: And an Ork is right out.


Uhm, have you _seen_ pictures of the BL staff? Large, tusked fungal beings would be less out of place there than many other workplaces. Just saying.

I bet Orks belong to unions, though. Mob Rule and all.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 05:10:11


Post by: warboss


Savnock wrote:
BrookM wrote:Yes, yes it is.

Regarding the desperate need for non-human novels: Go read Path of the Warrior by Gav, it is good.


Really? Better than the Last Chancers stuff, I hope?


quite. the last chancers stuff was only one of two books in the 40k universe that i had to put down and stop reading due to literary disgust (the other being the SOB/IG book about the guy who couldn't feel any pain). his DA stuff was mediocre at best so i was very surprised that i enjoyed the eldar book.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 05:28:28


Post by: Melissia


Savnock wrote:
Melissia wrote: And an Ork is right out.


Uhm, have you _seen_ pictures of the BL staff? Large, tusked fungal beings would be less out of place there than many other workplaces. Just saying.

I bet Orks belong to unions, though. Mob Rule and all.
True, and they might be better writers, too.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 07:38:45


Post by: Pyroriffic


Melissia wrote:That's also the issue with female characters, probably (Lindsey Priestly is their only credited female author... who has is credited for only a single story in a compilation book. They have another female author apparently... who's not given credit for contributions to any BL or GW books).


Wait, what?

(Check out Primary Instinct in the first issue of Hammer & Bolter. Most assuredly by a female author).

And this might sound daft, because most of the things I say have a tendency to - but... why would a female author necessarily equate to writing about female characters? I am the confused. Matthew Farrer's Enforcer books have a female protagonist too - and he's most definitely not female.


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Ah,now I've had a caffeine injection, it occurs to me that you mean a female author has a unique perspective they could bring to female characters.

Having spent much of my life as a tomboy, I find the workings of the female of the species largely incomprehensible. And I'm one of them.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 08:46:36


Post by: reds8n


Mamzel Abnett also has a story in the recent Sabbat Worlds anthology.

.. and, yeah.. there's those Silver Skulls with their..looming....space marines battles series book as well. No pressure there then.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 08:55:31


Post by: Pyroriffic


No pressure at all.

*insert comedic flailing here*


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 12:07:58


Post by: Melissia


Then said authors aren't credited with their work on the BL website.

I only saw two listed period, and one of them had no books listed to her credit... or even any hints that she really actually produced anything for BL (there was a hint that she worked on some Batman stuff, but it didn't say she did anything as a writer for GW).

Maybe their author page is incomplete, but that's rather telling, too in a completely different sense



I never said men couldn't write a believable female character, just that people tend to write what they know, just like people said about writing a book about a Xenos character. I tend to write female characters when I roleplay, for example, or when I create a backstory for my armies.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 13:13:37


Post by: Pyroriffic


I'm pretty sure only published novel authors/editors appear on the author page. They'd run out of space if all the short story contributors were added as well.

Strange coincidence - nearly all my tabletop RP characters are male. It's nice to know it's not just me!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 15:29:32


Post by: reds8n


From the BL site...

A Thousand Sons Audio - Available Now
Today’s the day – A Thousand Sons Audio is now available for download. This is the first time we’ve ever released an unabridged audio book and what better title to have chosen than Graham McNeill’s New York Times bestselling A Thousand Sons novel. Owing to author privileges, Graham received his copy of the audio book last Friday (you can listen to an extract of it here) and spent the weekend immersed in the Horus Heresy. Here’s what he thought to hearing his novel for the first time:

“It’s a funny thing writing a book, as it has many iterations along the way to becoming something I can see on a bookshelf. When the words are in front of me, they’re fluid, always changing, and I can chop and change them at will. They don’t feel like the words of a book, not yet. Then I print it out and read them, and it still feels like I’m back reading an essay at university or school (not that we had fancy things like printers when I was at school…). Then I read it at the manuscript stage, and it starts to feel real, like a proper book. It’s laid out in the proper font, with the chapter headings in place, page numbers and ISBNs. Even now, I can still make changes to it, and wield the Red Pen of Doom, so it’s still not quite there.

And up until now, it was only when I held the printed book in my hand that if was real, was a book that I had to send out into the world and hope people liked. Words read on a page have a special kind of magic, a magic that allows you to picture the scene, hear the dialogue and create your own imaginary vision space for it to come to life. That’s something special, that only books can do, but what about when you hear it read to you?

I listened to A Thousand Sons on audio book over the weekend, and that’s a whole other way to experience a novel. Martyn Ellis does a fantastic job of plunging you straight into the Heresy mindset with his rumbling tones that immediately had me feeling the heat and dust of Aghoru, and gave me chills when I heard my dialogue being spoken aloud by Ahriman, Phosis T’kar and Hathor Maat. It’s a different way to get into a story, more passive, but in some ways more immersive, as you can let the actor’s voice take you places you might not otherwise have reached on your own.

As I listened to the confrontation between Magnus and Leman Russ on Shrike, I kept picturing the scene as those two titans squared off. I could feel the tension like I was there watching two tough guys getting ready for a fight, and knowing there was nothing I could do to stop it. There’s a wonderful pressure when a professional actor reads a scene that I don’t get when I read a book myself. That’s something special, and even though I know how it all ends (obviously) I found myself thinking, just another chapter, just to see how that cool bit coming up sounds…

If you can be dragged along by a story, even when you know exactly how it’s going to play out, then you’ve got something pretty special. Even if you’ve read the book, you’ll learn something new, feel a different way about a scene and have your perceptions twisted by the new experience. And isn’t that exactly what should happen with a book about a Legion whose fate is woven by the Architect of Fate…?”



http://www.blacklibrary.com/Horus-Heresy/A-Thousand-Sons-audiobook.html



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 18:17:36


Post by: fullheadofhair


USA eBook pricing should come to us in early 2011 per an email from BL. Slow and strange as to why not done prior to release but coming none the less. Current exchange rate is 1.6143 which prices an eBook at $10.50 excluding foreign transaction fee in comparison to $8.99 at full retail price at Barnes and Noble ($8.09 if purchased online from them).

I still don't get why the US market was ingnored to this degree - isn't it a tad big?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 18:57:42


Post by: Bloodwin


fullheadofhair wrote:USA eBook pricing should come to us in early 2011 per an email from BL. Slow and strange as to why not done prior to release but coming none the less. Current exchange rate is 1.6143 which prices an eBook at $10.50 excluding foreign transaction fee in comparison to $8.99 at full retail price at Barnes and Noble ($8.09 if purchased online from them).

I still don't get why the US market was ingnored to this degree - isn't it a tad big?


What do they mean by that? Do they really mean that they will have a price relative to the internal US economy or are they just going to slap a dollar sign on it?

As for the US market... Dear US, we don't care about you. Signed the rest of the world. I don't mean that in a harsh of flaming way. It's just a normal fact of life. The US is not at the forethought of all our thoughts.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 19:14:07


Post by: fullheadofhair


Bloodwin wrote:
fullheadofhair wrote:USA eBook pricing should come to us in early 2011 per an email from BL. Slow and strange as to why not done prior to release but coming none the less. Current exchange rate is 1.6143 which prices an eBook at $10.50 excluding foreign transaction fee in comparison to $8.99 at full retail price at Barnes and Noble ($8.09 if purchased online from them).

I still don't get why the US market was ingnored to this degree - isn't it a tad big?


What do they mean by that? Do they really mean that they will have a price relative to the internal US economy or are they just going to slap a dollar sign on it?

As for the US market... Dear US, we don't care about you. Signed the rest of the world. I don't mean that in a harsh of flaming way. It's just a normal fact of life. The US is not at the forethought of all our thoughts.


Seriously? The fact that one of the largest book markets is the US shouldn't be factored into a company's business decisions? What do you do for a living coz please tell me it isn't business related.

And yes, a price relative to the US internal economy. You seriously think it is smart to do otherwise - i.e price eBooks 25% higher than it cost to by a paperback

p.s new HH novel is on the NYT best seller list I believe, as posted earlier in this thread. Just rechecked - currently number 28 for mass market paperbacks.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 19:25:44


Post by: Alpharius


That new audio book version of A THOUSAND SONS... I am reading this right - £20 for it?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 19:34:23


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


It is a completely unabridged version, so about 16 hours long. I think that price is fairly justifiable.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 20:23:18


Post by: Manchu


Pyroriffic wrote:Strange coincidence - nearly all my tabletop RP characters are male. It's nice to know it's not just me!
Many of mine are female. But, on-topic, Melissa's opinion is at least somewhat based on the perceived ill-treatment that Sisters of Battle have received at the hands of several male authors. I share her perception on that topic, mostly.

@Melissa: As for female authors published by BL, there are a few besides Lindsey Priestly (who Kanluwen has suggested has something to do with managing their IP, something I thought Alan Merret handled). For example, Melissa, Sarah Cawkwell wrote Primary Instinct, which features the Silver Skulls chapter. She also has a Space Marine Battles novel on deck, also featuring the Silver Skulls, called Gildar Rift.

You can find a good interview with her here:

http://www.thefoundingfields.com/2010/10/author-interview-sarah-cawkwell.html


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Also, please don't discuss BL pricing strategies in this thread.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 21:47:55


Post by: Kanluwen





My understanding was that Lindsey Priestly doesn't handle their IP, persay, but she does handle the Horus Heresy as a whole and trying to make it all "fit" together since C.S. Goto butchered the fluff earlier on.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/08 22:04:11


Post by: BrookM


Miss Priestley is one of the main editors of BL first and foremost.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 08:03:18


Post by: Flachzange


Nick Ellingworth wrote:It is a completely unabridged version, so about 16 hours long. I think that price is fairly justifiable.


So? At audible I can buy 17 hours of unabridged Star Wars goodness for 10€.
At the current exchange rate, the BL book would cost me 23.26€.

Now, that price isnt halfbad though. Its right up there with other audiobooks (even abridged versions) so the price is alright. YMMV though.
Harry Potter audiobooks are 35-65€ even on amazon.

Manchu reminds you that this thread is not for discussing BL pricing strategies.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 08:28:10


Post by: reds8n


BrookM wrote:Miss Priestley is one of the main editors of BL first and foremost.




And very nice she is too. She's been at GW , in one way or another now, for over two decades.

In certain circles there is talk with regards to a certain pair of trousers but there are things mortal man is not supposed to speak of in daylight hours.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 09:40:05


Post by: BrookM


From what I understand miss Priestley is the head honcho of Black Library really. She is behind most of the stuff happening there and she's the one you pitch your stories to, deciding whether or not you can go ahead with it.

Is she by any chance related to Rick?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 09:52:27


Post by: reds8n


She is his wife.

I believe George Mann is the head of BL, with Marc Gascoigne having been his predecessor, with Mamzel Priestley being (senior ?) editor.

But they all pretty much leap in and "do" a few different jobs if needs be.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 17:07:27


Post by: Pyroriffic


Has anybody downloaded and listened to 'A Thousand Sons' yet? How's it working out for people?

I'm hoping to get around to it very shortly as a carrot for reaching my current target.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 19:07:15


Post by: BrookM


I found the narrator a bit hammy.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 19:11:06


Post by: Kanluwen


They always are, imo.

And the sound effects...lol.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 19:17:25


Post by: Manchu


You have to consider the material.

Can't speak to Thousand Sons but Throne of Lies and Heart of Rage had worthy production values. Is the Thousand Sons audio a drama like those or just a reading?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 19:33:12


Post by: Kanluwen


Not saying the stories are bad. Just saying that more often than not the narrator hams it up real bad.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 19:37:57


Post by: Manchu


No, I meant that the actors/narrators are working with what they have. This kind of overblown space mythology requires a certain degree of overacting. At least this is true of the two BL audio . . . plays? I have read.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 19:41:25


Post by: Kanluwen


"Raven's Flight" was fantastic, as was "Aenarion"+"Throne of Lies" and they weren't really big on the overacting.

"Waiting Death" and "Fireborn" though...my God.

I've heard less overly dramatic phrases from Paris Hilton.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:19:22


Post by: Alpharius


"Throne of Lies" - Talos is ridiculous sounding in that one!

Yet another reason why I really do prefer books to 'audiobooks'...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:23:33


Post by: Manchu


I hope Thousand Sons trailblazes digital release of previous BL audio content. I don't live close to a GW store and hate the idea of sending away to the UK for a CD.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:26:58


Post by: Pyroriffic


I personally like the audio dramas. All the ones I've listened to so far have been highly enjoyable. I think Oath of Moment and Throne of Lies currently hold joint favourite position.

I've never listened to an unabridged (or indeed abridged) audio book before though, so this will be something new.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:40:58


Post by: Alpharius


Talos' voice in THRONE OF LIES doesn't sound a bit over the top to you?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:45:43


Post by: Manchu


Alpharius wrote:Talos' voice in THRONE OF LIES doesn't sound a bit over the top to you?
I loved the quality of this drama and hope future ones are as good. I'm esepcially interested to see what kind of proto-Inquisitory trouble ole Garro gets himself into across two dramas.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:47:13


Post by: Alpharius


OK, you two with your non-answers, I'll have to guess you love Talos' throaty whisper growly voice thingy.

Give me the printed word!!!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/09 20:55:15


Post by: Manchu


Discussion of BL audio title quality goes here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/327148.page


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 00:08:41


Post by: Asherian Command


I wish there was more on the thousand sons. Than just that one book....
And the Alpha Legion....


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 00:48:36


Post by: Alpharius


Well, you'll be getting a bit more of the Thousand Sons, from the Space Wolves perspective!, with PROSPERO BURNS.

All I've gotten since LEGION is mustache twirling villains in THE HUNT FOR VOLDORIUS and some impersonation of statues over in THE FIRST HERETIC!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 08:12:22


Post by: BrookM


The Alphas are a bit of a difficult to handle Chapter ever since Dan dropped those bombs in Legion. He really needs to write a second novel on them to fully clarify the how and why they became what they are now.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 11:59:29


Post by: Just Dave


See I'm not sure about that Brook. I completely agree, they most certainly are a difficult Legion to handle and I'd probably like another book - Legion is possibly my favourite HH book so far - however, I'm not sure whether I'd like the current reasoning and overall structure of the Alpha Legion to be detailed, or for it to be left up to our imaginations.
What I find to be one of the great things about the Alpha Legion is that even the omniscient narrator and reader don't know their current motivations and structure (although I haven't read their recent appearance in Voldorius). This true mystery really suits the Alpha Legion and - for example - should a new CSM Codex come out some time (not anytime soon of course) i'm unsure whether I'd like the Alpha Legion as they are atm to be fleshed out or whether I'd like it to stay a mystery...

As I said, one of the great appeals about the Alpha Legion is their mystery, something which they maintain even to the reader. Which I love...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 14:45:49


Post by: Temujin


Any idea when I'll be able to buy First Heretic in digital format? It bugs me that it's sold enough copies to be on the New York Times Bestsellers list and yet I still don't have it. I'm not going back to paper though.

Are Black Library going to do a big unveil or is it just going to be the trickle that has come so far? I love audiobooks, but I prefer to read beyond a certain length. How can they have A Thousand Sons available as a gargantuan audiobook before the ebook? I already have it in paper format, but I'm eagerly awaiting The First Heretic and Prospero Burns, and I hope they are released in a reasonable timeframe. Prospero Burns is confirmed for release as an audiobook next month, but I want my ebooks!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 16:01:40


Post by: Ed_Bodger


Kanluwen wrote:"Raven's Flight" was fantastic, as was "Aenarion"+"Throne of Lies" and they weren't really big on the overacting.

"Waiting Death" and "Fireborn" though...my God.

I've heard less overly dramatic phrases from Paris Hilton.



Brilliant this brought a smile to my face.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 20:35:02


Post by: reds8n


Nice little piece from the latest New York Times bestselling author.... bet that sounds really strange to be able to say to oneself..anyway..

Wednesday 10th of November, 2010

Aaron Dembski-Bowden talks about The First Heretic

The First Heretic’s a New York Times Best Seller, but you probably knew that already. So what’s it like to be the man behind such a successful book? Over to The First Heretic author (and excitable chap), Aaron Dembski-Bowden to fill you in.

Aaron: The folks at BL Towers asked me if I had anything to say about The First Heretic, now the novel’s been unleashed upon the slavering hordes everywhere across the world.

Well, sure, I have some stuff to say, but I’ll try to keep this brief. You’re busy people, right? I can respect that. You don’t want to listen to me harp on about how “it’s such an honour to do a Horus Heresy novel” and fill your screen with the same kind of thing you always see when a writer gets asked to say a few generic words about his or her latest release.

So I’ll spare you all of that, and cut right to the chase. I didn’t feel backslapping pride in myself. I felt raw, blood-chilling terror.

Last week was straight-up one of the most insane weeks of my life. The First Heretic nailed #1 bestselling sci-fi novel in the States, and #2 in the UK (just behind Iain M. Banks, no less – a writer I freaking adore). It sold out in the UK almost immediately, and dived into its second printing. Then it crashed onto the New York Times Bestseller List, and that’s the kind of thing that can change an author’s career completely.

It’d be a lie to say I was completely thrilled and proud; to tell you the truth, I was mostly stunned and overwhelmed. On the day TFH cracked the chart, the phone rang about 800 times. My blog went crazy. My email inbox exploded. For a guy that moved to the middle of nowhere to hide from civilisation, everyone suddenly wanting to talk to me was a frightening prospect. At one point I even pulled the ethernet cable out of my PC’s dusty spine, hiding myself from the internet.

Scary stuff.

TFH’s reviews and forum feedback have been insane, too. The reactions to Lorgar, the architect of Chaos, have been especially awesome – how he was the one primarch who never wanted to be a warrior, and how he walked the darkest paths always seeking the truth. To some, he’s a failure, a weakling, a coward. To others, Lorgar is a philosopher, a visionary, a soul that stares into the truth behind the universe and says – just as Rorschach said – “Never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon.” Like all visionaries, he stood by the courage of his convictions, whether they were destined to damn the human race or save it.

I love that dichotomy at the heart of the novel, and at the core of the Legion’s fall. It’s immensely gratifying to see so many others pick up on it, too. Love or hate the Word Bearers; respect or loathe Lorgar, people have really sympathised with their struggles and identified with (or at least understood the reasons for) their betrayal.

I should probably end this now, which means getting to the point.

So... to briefly answer a few of the questions that keep hurling themselves at me: Yes, we’ll see more of Argel Tal and the Word Bearers in future Horus Heresy novels; Yes, I’ll be writing more for the Horus Heresy series in the future (thanks for asking, by the way) about other events and the Legions; and yes, I’m aware of how lucky I’ve been to steal a spot on the HH team so quickly.

Lastly, I just wanted to say a sincere thanks to everyone who bought and enjoyed the novel, because the insane and terrifying week I just had is pretty much your fault. That’s right, you’re to blame.

Thanks, gang.
-Aaron.

Aaron will be attending Black Library Live! 2011, so if you want to find out more about what makes him tick, or have your copy of The First Heretic signed, then pop along to Warhammer World on Saturday 5th March. Tickets for the event are now on sale, and are limited to 350 (though we sold 50 at UK Games Day) –order early to avoid missing out. You can find out more about the event, including which authors and artists will be there, and order your ticket on the Black Library Live! ticket page. Be sure to check back often as we’ll be posting more information as authors are confirmed.



http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/AD-B-talks-about-First-Heretic.html



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 21:00:58


Post by: Alpharius


Congrats to him indeed!

Just finished the book, loved it, and while I still can't stand the Traitors, I can certainly say it was a great story and a very enjoyable ride!

I would really like to see the "Imperial Side of The Truth" sometime soon, especially concerning the creation of the Primarchs.

Those nasty, tricksy Chaos visions aren't the whole story, are they?

I think not!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 21:07:29


Post by: Just Dave


Completely Agree Alpharius. Like all of that post I agree with.

I loved the novel, loved it! But I still can't agree with the traitors.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 21:29:48


Post by: Manchu


One line does stand out, though; to paraphrase "will the Emepror not leave Terra even for this?"


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 21:32:54


Post by: Just Dave


Completely agree. What I love about the Horus Heresy is that you see the Emperor really isn't a perfect being at all.

However, the line that really stood out for me is the one quoted in my signature and that's why I can't agree with the traitors. The Emperor was a prick, no doubt about that. Chaos gods aren't exactly the care bears though...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/10 21:38:43


Post by: BrookM


The thing is, the Emperor was extremely busy with something important. Dunno if its a spoiler or not so there:

Spoiler:
The Emperor was sitting on the Golden Throne, which was built over a defunct webway portal that led straight into the Warp. His Custodes and Sisters of Silence were first exploring it but quickly fighting for their lives when a certain cyclopean Primarch sent a distress signal to Terra, breaking the seals the Emperor put there and letting the Warp flood in.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/15 16:52:03


Post by: fullheadofhair


Anyone got any ideas when the whole back (yes, I do mean back, not black) library comes in eBook format. There are multiple books I wish to purchase in eBook format (assuming they finally sort out the US pricing).


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/16 09:18:37


Post by: reds8n


Hmm.. I think it might be a while until the entire range is available, I would guess it might be tied into the Print On Demand feature.

Meanwhile http://www.blacklibrary.com/Digital a few new digital downloads are up for purchase.


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And some news from Mr. Thorpe with regrads to a forthcoming release, looking forwards to this....played the original campaign through a few times.... oh god I'm old

The lovely postie dropped an unxpected package through the door yesterday – an advance copy of The Purging Of Kadillus. Part of the Space Marine Battles series, The Purging of Kadillus recounts the war first revealed in the Storm of Vengeance campaign pack in the distant history of 2nd edition Warhammer 40,000.

The story revolves around the Dark Angels of the 3rd Company under Master Belial, who face an unexpected Ork invasion whilst recruiting in the Piscina system. These events take place before Angels of Darkness and those who have read that book will find some familiar faces in unfmailiar roles – Kadillus shows the likes of Boreas and Nestor as they were before being left to their own devices… The star is undoubtedly Sergant Naaman of the 10th Company though, and writing his scenes was immensely enjoyable.

Kadillus has given me an ideal opportunity to go back to the Space Marines and present a story that I feel does them justice. The structure is a bit different from the other books in the series (I can’t help myself, I just have to mess about with format!). I’ve taken inspiration from the Band of Brothers tv series and the novel is broken down into separate stories that focus on a single character at a time, while the arc of the narrative links all of them together.

This approach has allowed me to bring in a wide cast of characters and take a good look at Space Marines doing what they do best – kicking alien bottoms and not bothering to take names. We get to live inside the skin of a Chaplain, fix up wounded Space Marines with the Apothecary, see a battle through the eyes of a Commander and go on missions behind enemy lines with the Scouts. It feels… complete. It’s a great story for introducing Space Marines to new readers, but adds plenty of depth for those who have been around the Adeptus Astartes block a few times.



http://mechanicalhamster.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/dark-angels-sighted/



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/16 16:22:52


Post by: Simonbarsinistr


I like the idea he used for this book, I hope it reads as interesting as it sounds. I'm looking forward to this one.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/16 19:20:50


Post by: BrookM


I can't wait, I've enjoyed Angels of Darkness immensely and I'm eager to see how he portrays the legendary Naaman.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/17 11:07:02


Post by: Temujin


A bunch of new audiobooks, but there are still only two ebooks available for pre-order. What's the delay?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/17 11:28:21


Post by: MunkeyKungFu


I've just got to part 2 of First Heretic and I have to say that this book is fantastic so far. I am absoloutely loving it, to me its up there with Fulgrim as my favourite of the series. It really make you feel for the traitors in what drove them down that path in the first place.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/17 14:59:54


Post by: reds8n


New video time !

And no swears either ! How many takes was this then eh ?



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/17 17:11:13


Post by: Flachzange


lol i was wondering the same thing. Great interview though. Really likeable guy this one.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/17 19:26:20


Post by: BrookM


He is a great guy, the signing he did here was fun.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/18 00:05:22


Post by: Just Dave


AD-B: "I've been really lucky. I've been really fortunate with my feedback so far."

You know, for a writer he seems to have spelt 'deserved' as 'lucky' which is a stupid mistake.

Dang modesty.
Cheers for that though Red, good listen.


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Oh God I Hope he doesn't cover the World Eaters! I hate that Legion too much for them to be fleshed out and - god forbid - likeable...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/18 00:40:42


Post by: Hulksmash


I have to say that First Herectic was probably one of the very, very few 40k books I've read that didn't feel like a trashy sci-fi book. It felt like a geniune novel. I mean I even kept waiting for a certain someone to shrug off a certain influence. And I love the idea of Lorger (Sp?) being such a wuss. Just plain loved it. Oh and the Lion is even more my favorite after that tiny exerpt.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 08:43:15


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Alpharius wrote:The are some VERY interesting revelations in there, actually...


For those who don't care about spoilers, please spoil us.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 13:01:25


Post by: reds8n


First of all the next limited edition Bl book is now on pre order : http://www.blacklibrary.com/Exclusive-Products/Collectors-Editions/The-Bloody-Handed.html

Tiernen crafted 40 images for the book and his incredibly detailed Gustave Doré-style drawings have a twisted beauty that perfectly suit this sinister tale of sacrifice and murder.
- Gav Thorpe



And Bl have also posted their Xmas shipping dates

Christmas sighted.
Christmas Shipping Dates

The nights are getting darker, the music cheesier and the amount of chocolate on the shelves growing – yup, it’s almost Christmas. And while on the one hand, you’re likely to get lots of great gifts, it does mean that your postman is about to have some time off. So, to make sure you awake to a pile of Black Library books under the tree, here’s a list of the last shipping dates – miss these and you might have to spend Boxing Day reading the back of a gravy packet.

Standard Shipping: last shipping dates

December 7th - Outside the United Kingdom
December 20th - Inside the United Kingdom

UPS Express Delivery: last shipping dates

December 13th - Outside the United Kingdom
December 20th - Inside the United Kingdom



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 14:06:29


Post by: Alpharius


H.B.M.C. wrote:
Alpharius wrote:The are some VERY interesting revelations in there, actually...


For those who don't care about spoilers, please spoil us.


OK!

Spoiler:

Basically, some Word Bearers comment on how the Ultramarines suddenly and mysteriously grew their ranks by a LOT when the 2nd and the 11th were [Imperial Records Deleted - We Must Never Speak Of This Specifically, Only In Veiled Hints And Frustrating Snippets!]. They mention this while looking at the leader of the Ultramarines 19th (I think) Chapter, who is given way more autonomy than others with equivalent rank, and he's often off on his own, doing his own thing, etc. etc. The implication here, clearly, is that the Ultramarines absorbed the Marines from the II and XI Legions after their respective Primarchs did their Super Naughty Whatevers. Of course, part of the joke is that II plus XI equals XIII too...


It is stuff like this that really makes me want them to JUST TELL US ALREADY.

I mean, they kind of already are, aren't they? Mostly?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 18:50:04


Post by: Hulksmash


Alpharius wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Alpharius wrote:The are some VERY interesting revelations in there, actually...


For those who don't care about spoilers, please spoil us.


OK!

Spoiler:

Basically, some Word Bearers comment on how the Ultramarines suddenly and mysteriously grew their ranks by a LOT when the 2nd and the 11th were [Imperial Records Deleted - We Must Never Speak Of This Specifically, Only In Veiled Hints And Frustrating Snippets!]. They mention this while looking at the leader of the Ultramarines 19th (I think) Chapter, who is given way more autonomy than others with equivalent rank, and he's often off on his own, doing his own thing, etc. etc. The implication here, clearly, is that the Ultramarines absorbed the Marines from the II and XI Legions after their respective Primarchs did their Super Naughty Whatevers. Of course, part of the joke is that II plus XI equals XIII too...


It is stuff like this that really makes me want them to JUST TELL US ALREADY.

I mean, they kind of already are, aren't they? Mostly?


You left out:

Spoiler:


That the Lion was one of the Primarchs that was suppose to fall to chaos. His landing was one they took a hand in. Also that what horus sees in his "dreamwalk" is a direct result of what the wordbearers do. That the Wordbearers Primarch was a weak little girl and even more easily manipulated by his "daddy" and people around him than the Lion who is renowned for just not understanding people now due to the last book (which I liked a lot more than the first DA Heresy Novel). Also the years that the primarch spent in the warp compared to the others was interesting.


I thought it was a great read and a nice change of pace from most 40k books. Now if all the marines would just man up in the pressence of primarchs it would be perfect.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 18:54:05


Post by: Alpharius


I am not sure how "true" these CHAOS VISIONS OF THE PAST really are.

I mean, they exist in order to manipulate/control the Primarchs into 'choosing' the Baddies.

So, yeah, not sure how true they are.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 19:25:52


Post by: BrookM


reds8n wrote:First of all the next limited edition Bl book is now on pre order : http://www.blacklibrary.com/Exclusive-Products/Collectors-Editions/The-Bloody-Handed.html
I want this one so badly, until I saw that it is 45 quid with express postal services. A bit too steep even for me.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 19:55:49


Post by: reds8n


I'l let you know what it's like



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 20:23:45


Post by: BrookM


Much obliged, I'm a big fan of the series, but there is a line I can't cross some times..


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 21:44:52


Post by: reds8n


I'm too weak to resist..

..meanwhile...



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/19 21:50:48


Post by: Hulksmash


@Alpharius

It had to be moderately true. At least the WB Captains since his swords went bye bye and he heard Horus screaming. Why put that in there if it wasn't binding what had happened closer together. And maybe the defenses were holding until that last little thrust by the WB guy and Horus simply misunderstood (very likely). Just because it's a vision doesn't mean it's false. It's the way it's spun and viewed which chaos is a master of.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/20 12:36:59


Post by: Alpharius


Spoiler:
So, you really think Horus traveled back in time and cracked the incubation pods, and the Word Bearers did too and destroyed the gellar fields?


Huh!

For the record, I also still refuse to believe that

Spoiler:
the Emperor made ANY sort of 'deal' with the Chaos Chumps. At all!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/20 12:56:24


Post by: Hulksmash


Time is relative in the warp my friend. I don't believe all of it. But there are aspects of the truth there. And they had to break the gellar field somehow and the bad man showing the WB's things never touched anything. He might have only been able to get there thru something that could slip thru the field, like hitching a ride on a human.

And nope, The emperor collusion thing I don't buy for a second. Though again, kernals of truth. He does truly understand the warp and is trying to protect humanity by pushing them away from things that strengthen the other realm. Hence what the daemons call him. But how did he get that knowledge? The Emprah isn't as pure as the driven snow


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/20 19:33:43


Post by: BrookM


"My name is Nathaniel Garro and I am a legion of one."

edit.



Spoiler:
Loken!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 01:03:46


Post by: Simonbarsinistr


I like that cover! And that spoiler!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 01:17:02


Post by: Asherian Command


BrookM wrote:"My name is Nathaniel Garro and I am a legion of one."

edit.



Spoiler:
Loken!

Spoiler:
OMG NO WAY ITS LOKEN OMG NERDGASM NERDGASM


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 01:55:32


Post by: Melissia


That's one of the better covers I've seen.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 02:00:22


Post by: Asherian Command


Thats true. As the helmets are smaller than their hands. And their swords are bigger than they are. And the bolter is well proportioned.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 02:04:02


Post by: Melissia


They're superstrong superhuman superfreaks in superpowered superarmor, of course their melee weapons are too big.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 05:35:48


Post by: warboss


whoever that artist is should be hired to redo the blood angels "tiny head mode" cover to the codex. that audiobook art is absolutely awesome. is there a black library screensaver version without the giant text block or a wallpaper?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 09:13:56


Post by: BrookM


The artist is either Neil Roberts (who did Oath of Moment) or that South Korean artist who does the Warhammer Heroes cover art along with some other choice covers.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 09:32:09


Post by: Kanluwen


Pretty sure it's Neil Roberts. The other artist it might be is Jon Sullivan. They both have a(to me at least) fairly similar style.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 09:40:03


Post by: 1hadhq


Asherian Command wrote:
BrookM wrote:"My name is Nathaniel Garro and I am a legion of one."





Spoiler:
Loken!



Why is it Legion of one?

Spoiler:
didn't Garro recrut his first squad member in 'oath of moment' , you now, the Ultramarine Librarian?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 09:48:27


Post by: BrookM


Spoiler:
Maybe he goes in alone each and every time? Gathering them and putting them on his ship until further notice. Or the title could refer to Loken being the sole survivor of the Istvann massacre, being the only (not really of course, we've got Iacton(sp?) the Half-Heard as well) Luna Wolf to not side with the Warmaster.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 09:59:22


Post by: 1hadhq


I like the idea of a squad of Heroes

Spoiler:
Each audio gives us another one joining the team then? May take some time until we get to know the mission of those gathered Marines.
Malcador said every Legion didn't he? Would hope for at least a group of 5-10.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 11:51:01


Post by: BrookM


I am curious as to what is being created through this process: the Inquisition or the Grey Knights.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 12:51:47


Post by: Hulksmash


Almost seems like the beginnings of a deathwatch approach that could split later to do the GK's and normal inquisition. Like the gathered ones become the first GK's but the selection process is kinda set in stone for future space marine recruitment for xenos?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 13:00:27


Post by: BrookM


The Ordo Xenos was created at a later date.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 14:29:28


Post by: lords2001


Damn it. It looks like I need to start buying audiobooks from BL, if they involve cool stuff. And Garro looks like it is involving cool stuff.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 14:34:18


Post by: BrookM


I was a bit sceptical and when he spouted the "Legion of One" line I found it hammy, but it gets even better in my opinion.

Also, Malcador is indeed Palpetine.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 14:36:38


Post by: lords2001


BrookM wrote:I was a bit sceptical and when he spouted the "Legion of One" line I found it hammy, but it gets even better in my opinion.

Also, Malcador is indeed Palpetine.


Gah.

I almost wish they would release these books in short format at some point. Reading is so much better.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 14:41:18


Post by: BrookM


Got to agree there, it took me several times listening to take it all in, something I had no trouble with when listening to their first audio-book based on two short HH novellas that I've read before.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 14:54:32


Post by: lords2001


BrookM wrote:Got to agree there, it took me several times listening to take it all in, something I had no trouble with when listening to their first audio-book based on two short HH novellas that I've read before.


Extremely true. I'm having a hard time with Throne of Lies. Though I must say his writing style does do well with audiobooks. I think it is just the format, and the way I think - I listen to music, not specific lyrics - so I'm not used to having to pay attention the entire time.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 18:04:11


Post by: fullheadofhair


Cannot stand mp3 for books. Just not my thing. I am also sure (even tho a guess) that they also aren't as big a seller as a book - so bloody well release the back catalogue and new books in eBook format a little quicker please.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/21 18:15:41


Post by: BrookM


My guess is not until December and then they'll do a few per month most likely.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/22 14:04:37


Post by: Flachzange


BrookM wrote:
Also, Malcador is indeed Palpetine.


who?

I think throne of lies is an excellent audiobook.

@lords2001: what do you mean when you say "the format"?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 05:21:32


Post by: Generalstoner


Has the Garro audiobook released yet in the US?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 05:40:14


Post by: nels1031


Generalstoner wrote:Has the Garro audiobook released yet in the US?


Yes it is out in the US.

Dead Men Walking was pretty damn good. The krieg come off as more inhuman then the necrons, oddly (but fittingly, I guess) enough. Definitely worth a read if you are a fan of Imperial Guard of the Krieg variety, although there is a pretty grounded commissar and PDF to root for, as well as even out the emotionless Krieg and Necrons . One of the better Imperial Guard books imo.

Warrior Priest is next on my list!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 10:55:57


Post by: reds8n


It's by far Mr. Lyon's strongest BL effort so far, captures the kreig mindset quite well IMO.

Wulfrik is good, very Conanesque in a lot of ways, but the story worls very well.

Meanwhile...



And.. http://www.graham-mcneill.com/gmblog/PermaLink,guid,0a667050-a7d9-494a-98ae-37ae53d3d88d.aspx


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 13:25:05


Post by: MunkeyKungFu


I'm not sure if this has been covered yet and apologies if it has (I went back a few pages and didn't see it) I was picking up the new Cain novel in GW today and the store manager was bouncing like a little girl as he has been told by HO that he can confirm that Prospero Burns will be available in stores on the 18th December...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 13:33:13


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Sounds like the manager of my local GW, he's been getting giddier by the day since the December release was confirmed. The revelations in First Heretic haven't helped either.

I'm looking forward to Prospero Burns reading the SW's side of the story will be very interesting. Although it will take a lot to convince me that the Wolves are more than a bunch of savages.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 15:50:26


Post by: Alpharius


There's plenty out there to prove that for your already, but I'm sure this book will as well!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 17:44:28


Post by: reds8n


..you know you can pre order both prospero Burns and God King right now yes ? No ? Weellll, you do now.

More Abnett wisdom..

http://www.youtube.com/user/adeliehigh#p/a/u/1/uB1ZjfA_3Hc HH stuff

and... this one stops after 2.30 minutes for me currently...

http://www.youtube.com/user/adeliehigh


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:11:13


Post by: Death By Monkeys


Looks like all of the Abnett videos have been uploaded now.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:19:58


Post by: reds8n


Indeed.

I agree his LoS stuff needs collecting....that was a good run.

This is the cover to "The Battle of the Fang" due June next year.

also of interest...




[Thumb - fang1.jpg]
[Thumb - fang2.jpg]


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:26:09


Post by: Kanluwen


GLORIOUS!

Dan Abnett is writing a Raven Guard/Sons of Horus book!!!!!!



Glorious day! GLORIOUS!

ADB doing a Dark Angels book also makes me quite happy.

And yeah, reds8n. That's the cover. Jon Sullivan does alot of the best covers.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:27:26


Post by: Alpharius


Wait... what?!?

For those of us YouTube Blocked at work - news breakdown, please!!!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:29:12


Post by: Kanluwen


Minor correction: They're not individual books. It's the "Age of Darkness" anthology that's slated for next summer, if I remember right.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:33:03


Post by: reds8n


Indeed.

I think the RG and Sons tales are separate.. 1 line for each tale/author.

I think the RG one is by Gav Thorpe perhaps ?

I assume McNeill is doing the Ultramarine tale, IIRC Mr. DBC's one is NL and DA related.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:34:51


Post by: Alpharius


Would it KILL Mr. Abnett to write SOMETHING more about the Legion?

Really?!?

Even a short story in a short story collection would be OK at this point!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:35:20


Post by: Grarg


Wow.... that Battle of the Fang cover..... So i would think Bjorn is making an appearance (could it be the that this is the battle where he leads the defense?).


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 18:43:26


Post by: QuestionableStrategy


In a recent interview on 40kRadio Dan Abnett, when asked what he was working on said he is doing a third Inquisition trilogy that will start being released next year. The subject? (And I quote) "Eisenhorn v. Ravenor"

O.O AWESOME!

(I couldn't see if anyone mentioned this already, if it was and I missed it, sorry about the double-post).


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 19:03:23


Post by: Death By Monkeys


Alpharius wrote:Would it KILL Mr. Abnett to write SOMETHING more about the Legion?

Really?!?

Even a short story in a short story collection would be OK at this point!


In one of the videos he talks about Legion and how he really wants to write more about them. He joked about how the ultimate new Legion novel would be one in which you're half-way through the novel before you realize it's actually about the Alpha Legion.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 19:09:26


Post by: Kanluwen


reds8n wrote:Indeed.

I think the RG and Sons tales are separate.. 1 line for each tale/author.

I think the RG one is by Gav Thorpe perhaps ?

I assume McNeill is doing the Ultramarine tale, IIRC Mr. DBC's one is NL and DA related.

Maybe, but I choose to read it like I was taught to read spreadsheets. When an entry is two lines, the title is put on the second.

Thus, Dan Abnett is writing the Raven Guard story and you can't dissuade me!

I hate writing "book" when I mean "story".

From now on, we play "sounds like" and you'll know what I mean.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 19:33:15


Post by: Alpharius


QuestionableStrategy wrote:In a recent interview on 40kRadio Dan Abnett, when asked what he was working on said he is doing a third Inquisition trilogy that will start being released next year. The subject? (And I quote) "Eisenhorn v. Ravenor"

O.O AWESOME!

(I couldn't see if anyone mentioned this already, if it was and I missed it, sorry about the double-post).


It was, but it also was a while ago, so it probably bears repeating - I know I am REALLY looking forward to it, but do we have any timeframe on this at all yet?

Death By Monkeys wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Would it KILL Mr. Abnett to write SOMETHING more about the Legion?

Really?!?

Even a short story in a short story collection would be OK at this point!


In one of the videos he talks about Legion and how he really wants to write more about them. He joked about how the ultimate new Legion novel would be one in which you're half-way through the novel before you realize it's actually about the Alpha Legion.


That would be amusing, and really, I'll take anything!




Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 20:52:22


Post by: reds8n


Grarg wrote:Wow.... that Battle of the Fang cover..... So i would think Bjorn is making an appearance (could it be the that this is the battle where he leads the defense?).


Yes, that's exactly what this book is about.

but do we have any timeframe on this at all yet?


He wants to start work on it next year, he mentions it in one of the above vids.






Automatically Appended Next Post:
Kanluwen wrote:
Thus, Dan Abnett is writing the Raven Guard story and you can't dissuade me!


..err..okay.

You're wrong though.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 21:49:55


Post by: Alpharius


reds8n wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Thus, Dan Abnett is writing the Raven Guard story and you can't dissuade me!


..err..okay.

You're wrong though.


Uh oh!

Mark it down!

I do wish Abnett was writing the RG story though...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 21:57:16


Post by: Asherian Command


Army of one just sounds badass....


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/23 22:11:48


Post by: Kanluwen


Alpharius wrote:
reds8n wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Thus, Dan Abnett is writing the Raven Guard story and you can't dissuade me!


..err..okay.

You're wrong though.


Uh oh!

Mark it down!

I do wish Abnett was writing the RG story though...

Misreading a chart that has no label in the Raven Guard slot doesn't count as wrong, Alph.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/24 12:38:51


Post by: Flachzange


Hm, I was kinda hoping to see McNeill pick up the IW. He sounded pretty enthused about that idea


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/25 18:05:13


Post by: Lord of battles


Kanluwen wrote:GLORIOUS!

Dan Abnett is writing a Raven Guard/Sons of Horus book!!!!!!



Glorious day! GLORIOUS!

ADB doing a Dark Angels book also makes me quite happy.

And yeah, reds8n. That's the cover. Jon Sullivan does alot of the best covers.


I have a feeling that the AD-B story has to do with the wolf and the lion. The name just makes me think of it..... Savage Weapons


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/25 18:39:20


Post by: 1hadhq


These legion X / .... slots mean there are legion x / legion y? in the story, yes?

So who does RG? Thorpe?

Abnetts slot hasn't a title and 0 words...

I guess:

4 mcneill
5 Blood Angels
6 ?
7 ?
8?
9 thorpe
10 ?
11 iron warriors
12?
13 ??? spare slot?

And there are 4000 words missing if the total is correct.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/25 20:01:25


Post by: BrookM


Kanluwen, you are wrong. So wrong. Stop being stupid about it.

Stuff has been edited out, like the word count of Dan, certain legions have been blanked out and one author name has been blanked out. The two blanked out legions would have short names, otherwise it wouldn't fit in. Swallow could be writing about the Blood Angels, seeing as they are his forte.

Thing I'm curious about: who is John French?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/25 20:54:26


Post by: reds8n


Not familiar with Mr. French myself.. might have had 1/some short stories published maybe ?



I have a feeling that the AD-B story has to do with the wolf and the lion.


It's a Nl and DA story IIRC what he said before.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/25 20:55:30


Post by: Kanluwen


BrookM wrote:Kanluwen, you are wrong. So wrong. Stop being stupid about it.

First off, we don't know I'm wrong yet. I'll get to that in a second.
Second off, I'm allowed to joke with Alph and Red about the "wrong count". There's no "being stupid" involved.
In short: Get Over It.

Stuff has been edited out, like the word count of Dan, certain legions have been blanked out and one author name has been blanked out. The two blanked out legions would have short names, otherwise it wouldn't fit in. Swallow could be writing about the Blood Angels, seeing as they are his forte.

Some things have been "blanked out", yes.
Not everything though.
You'd see tell-tale marks of things being blanked out. Either the cell would be completely clean from the cell's entry being deleted(like cells A4, D7, the bottom half of D8, and cell C10) or you'd see a graphical error like in the border between cells D5+D6, or in B10(which I do, incidentally, think had something blanked out). I'm not sure about D12 though.
Cell A9, however, just has a '.' in it.

Thing I'm curious about: who is John French?

Likely a new author. He's not listed under the "View All", and the only Google hits I could find were for a drummer from Australia, a "First Earl", and the manager of a planetarium.

And damnit, Red beat me to that about the Night Lords/Dark Angels bit

I think ADB said something about it being the Shield Worlds campaign?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 18:38:24


Post by: reds8n


eBook friday: The First Heretic; A Thousand Sons; Horus Rising
eBook Friday is back, and with no less than three Horus Heresy titles: Horus Rising, A Thousand Sons and The First Heretic.

We’ll be making more titles available as eBooks over the coming weeks, so make sure you check back often. In the meantime, if there’s a particular title you’d like as an eBook, then drop us an email to Digitalbooks@games-workshop.co.uk and we’ll see what we can do.



...You have to pay for these ones, before you get too excited.

And..

.Don't tell Christian but we've taken a cheeky screengrab from his iPad. Some of these books are already available from blacklibrary.com and the others should be available in the next few weeks.



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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 18:53:24


Post by: Mr Morden


I am still hoping for a Horus Heresy novel by Sandy Mitchell -I do enjoy his unique takes on the Warhammer universes


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 19:25:28


Post by: BrookM


Going through Wulfrik now, only just past the Chaos Dwarves and I must say, mister Werner is in top shape! I like to think that this novel is a preview of the upcoming Chaos Dwarves, much like how Firedrake was a preview of the revised Dark Eldar fluff.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 19:47:42


Post by: Kanluwen


BrookM wrote:Going through Wulfrik now, only just past the Chaos Dwarves and I must say, mister Werner is in top shape! I like to think that this novel is a preview of the upcoming Chaos Dwarves, much like how Firedrake was a preview of the revised Dark Eldar fluff.

How have those Heroes books been anyways?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 20:49:16


Post by: Alpharius


Mr Morden wrote:I am still hoping for a Horus Heresy novel by Sandy Mitchell -I do enjoy his unique takes on the Warhammer universes


Seconded!

That would be nice...

BrookM wrote:Going through Wulfrik now, only just past the Chaos Dwarves and I must say, mister Werner is in top shape! I like to think that this novel is a preview of the upcoming Chaos Dwarves, much like how Firedrake was a preview of the revised Dark Eldar fluff.


I don't read a lot of BL's Fantasy stuff, and I usually avoid the 'bad guy'-centric things too... But dammit, you've now gone and made me want to pick this up, due to the Chaos Dwarf connection!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 21:03:53


Post by: reds8n


BrookM wrote:Going through Wulfrik now, only just past the Chaos Dwarves and I must say, mister Werner is in top shape!


I was very impressed by it, I was a bit dubious about how the series would work with him as the "hero", but he finds a way that is most satisfactory.

I'm about halfway through "Warrior priest" at the mo', and enjoying it immensely.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 21:04:47


Post by: nels1031


Kanluwen wrote:
BrookM wrote:Going through Wulfrik now, only just past the Chaos Dwarves and I must say, mister Werner is in top shape! I like to think that this novel is a preview of the upcoming Chaos Dwarves, much like how Firedrake was a preview of the revised Dark Eldar fluff.

How have those Heroes books been anyways?


I enjoyed Sword of Justice, was a top notch WHFB novel. Equal amounts of intrigue, action and dark grittiness. Wish the sequel would come sooner, as its kind of a cliff hanger.

Part way through Wulfrik and I'm liking it so far. They keep up this standard of quality and the Heroe's books could be a truly great series, imo.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 21:31:21


Post by: BrookM


I am finding Wulfrik a real improvement over the rather boring Palace of the Plague Lord, which made me skip the second Chaos novel by mister Werner. The thing with Wulfrik is, the way he is written and what he does makes him a most satisfying character to follow. Sure he's a bad guy, but one I can root for, even though the outcome is quite obvious. Why? His insults are fun and the way he finishes off his opponents in some cases is again, most satisfying and dare I say, cinematic.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/26 21:56:07


Post by: Hulksmash


Was almost excited enough to buy A Thousand Sons as a digital book until I remembered the exchange rate and realized it costs 25% more as a digital book than a paperback.....


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/27 07:45:45


Post by: Temujin


Yay! The First Heretic is available as an ebook. Strangely it's not listed under the digital section yet but can be purchased through the blog link on the main page along with Horus Rising and A Thousand Sons.

It's perfect timing since I've just finished Dead Men Walking, which was awesome. The ending was

Spoiler:
the most depressing imaginable. I don't know whether the planet's fate or our hero's broken heart was worse. It feels like the author must have gone through a really bad break up as he was writing the final battle at the generator and just decided to let everyone burn.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/27 08:13:28


Post by: blackclaw1


@Reds8n : warrior priest is an epic book ,trust me if they don't make a sequel i would cry


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/27 18:36:55


Post by: BrookM


Both Prospero Burns and GOD KING are up for pre-order at the GW site.

edit.

Release date: 18th of Decemberrrrr!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/28 09:01:39


Post by: BrookM


Just finished Wulfrik..

Spoiler:
Wow, dark ending but they all get what they deserve!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/28 20:13:19


Post by: fullheadofhair


Hulksmash wrote:Was almost excited enough to buy A Thousand Sons as a digital book until I remembered the exchange rate and realized it costs 25% more as a digital book than a paperback.....


same here. $10.13 (exc. bank fee) v's $8.99 or $8 if bought online.

Come on BL, get you ass in gear and get the US pricing mechanism sorted out. Not buying any more BL books until then.

don't know why they don't let B&N sell them electronically - that way RotW won't get upset at the dual pricing mechanism that will be clearly visible on the BL website. Only GW could bugger up something as simple as selling books. The current reasons for why we don't have a US price mechanism are pretty lame.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 15:29:09


Post by: MunkeyKungFu


I've just finished First Heretic at lunchtime.

I must say I have now become a huge fan of Mr Dembski-Bowden, I though the bok was absoloutely fantastic and I literally have been struggling to put it down during my lunch breaks.

This has definately made me want to check out his other stuff


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 15:55:17


Post by: Grarg


MunkeyKungFu wrote:I've just finished First Heretic at lunchtime.

I must say I have now become a huge fan of Mr Dembski-Bowden, I though the bok was absoloutely fantastic and I literally have been struggling to put it down during my lunch breaks.

This has definately made me want to check out his other stuff


I must agree, when it got to Isstvan....

Spoiler:
and ADB's description of Corax fighting was absolutely brilliant. I would've had like a fight between Corax and Curze rather than Lorgar. I was also quite surprise that Kor Phaeron wasn't an "Astartes" i've always thought he was


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 16:02:30


Post by: skrulnik


Just finished First Heretic myself on Sunday.

Spoiler:
I really liked the idea that the Primarchs all embodied some aspect of the Emperor. And to have the one who embodied his trust, hope and optimism be the first to turn to Chaos was good story-telling, IMO.
I did think Lorgar's question about allowing them to worship the Emperor for a hundred years before being punished was a good point.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 16:50:41


Post by: Lint


First Heretic was very good, but it doesn't seem like A.D.B. is as comfortable writing for 30k as he is for the grimdark of the 40th m.
Still one of the better HH novels.

Spoiler:
I particularly LOVED Curze calling Lorgar a coward. A.D.B.'s take on the Night Lords and Curze is so refreshing, I really, really hope they get some ink in the HH series. If the DA can get a trilogy about Lion'elToolson, his upbringing, and general tool-like demeanor, then how much more does the Night Haunter deserve!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 19:35:09


Post by: reds8n




First Look: Path of the Seer Cover Art.


We originally thought Neil Roberts was just incredibly talented, but his recent covers have been so insanely detailed and lifelike that we started to get suspicious. Turns out that he’s got a magic wardrobe. It leads straight to the 41st Millennium and each time we ask him for a new cover he just sneaks in there with his digital camera and snaps away. I’m not sure it’s totally ethical, but as long as he keeps coming up with gems like this his secret is safe with us.



Neil’s artwork will appear on the cover of Path of the Seer, the second book in Gav Thorpe’s Eldar series. If you haven’t read Path of the Warrior (the first book in the series), then we’d recommend giving it a go. It’s a cracking read which, as well as being bursting with action, really explores Eldar society. It’s also got some great cover-art (again by Neil) that's well worth a look.

Oh, and if you fancy having a cover or two signed by Neil, then make sure you pick up a ticket for Black Library Live.



http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/FirstLookPathoftheSeerCoverArt.html


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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 19:45:43


Post by: Just Dave


Wow. I knew Eldar were my favourite face for a reason. Actually many, but none-the-less I've always loved their appearance and this doesn't change that at-all...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 20:30:20


Post by: Alpharius


This style of art seems to suit Eldar better than Space Marines, where they seem to have trouble getting the weapons and vehicles right.

This one is VERY nice!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 23:49:26


Post by: AJCarrington


Very nice indeed - really seems to capture the "essence" of the Eldar.

AJC


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/11/30 23:55:06


Post by: Lord of battles


Just got wulfrik and I can barely put it down!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/01 04:10:48


Post by: Simonbarsinistr


That cover is downright beautiful. I really like the direction the cover art has been trending recently. They've got some talented artists.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/01 16:30:15


Post by: reds8n


http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/Pawns-of-Chaos-POD.html

relevant bits...

On the plus side, the snow has put us in a festive mood. Every day, from now until Christmas (well, weekdays – we like to sleep and eat cake at the weekend), we’ll be posting a little treat for you here on the blog; starting today with a selection of wallpapers for December.




As an extra treat, we’ve just made Brain Craig’s Pawns of Chaos available as a Print on Demand title. It’s been out of print for aaages, but at long last, those of you who have been pestering us to reprint this warped view of the Warhammer 40,000 universe can now stop sending us emails and go order a copy.





Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/01 16:43:58


Post by: kronk


MunkeyKungFu wrote:I must say I have now become a huge fan of Mr Dembski-Bowden, I though the bok was absoloutely fantastic and I literally have been struggling to put it down during my lunch breaks.

This has definately made me want to check out his other stuff


Helsreach was very well done, IMHO.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/01 23:53:07


Post by: Savnock


Kanluwen wrote:
BrookM wrote:

Thing I'm curious about: who is John French?

Likely a new author. He's not listed under the "View All", and the only Google hits I could find were for a drummer from Australia, a "First Earl", and the manager of a planetarium.


Jeez, you guys need to work on your public datacore manipulation skills. None of you will ever make Interrogator rank at this rate. Lemme query my ancient caffeine-powered data servitor. QiNCy224-beta, get over here!

{bzzzzt CLANK CLANK CLANK bzzzt}
"Searching for John. L. French, scriptor-minoris, Munitorum entertainment division. Please hold. Though of the Day: The Emperor protects, But You had Probably Better watch your Own Ass Anyways. Searching. Accessing Munitorum crystalline data stacks. Accessing Mechanicum haptic data web. Accessing misplaced parchment reports bin. Accessing side of cereal box... Data located in multiple sources, multiple formats. Composing report. Intiating scribe device. Report printing. Blessed is the Mind too Small for Heresy or Useless Mathhammer. Report Complete."
{bzzzzzzt whirrrrr CLANK whirrr BANG! whiirrrr...}


--BEGIN REPORT--

John French, associated with Games Workshop or Black Library:

Taken from his bio in the Dark Heresy RPG Designer's Diary (available at http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=148):

"John French is a freelance writer and games designer who has written for Dark Heresy since 2006. Working in collaboration with Alan Bligh and alongside many other talented writers and developers, his work can be found in the Dark Heresy Rulebook, Inquisitor’s Handbook, Games Master’s Screen, Disciples of the Dark Gods and the forthcoming Haarlock Legacy series of books that begins with Tattered Fates. In times past and days remote he also contributed to Necromunda Magazine, Town Cryer and Fanatic and has been involved in table top wargaming and roleplaying games since the beginning of the nineties. When he is not thinking of ways that dark and corrupting beings can destroy realty and space, John enjoys talking about why it would be a good idea, and making it so with his own traitor legions on the gaming table …that and drinking good wine."

French plays a Blood Angels successor chapter of his own devising, the Red Seraphs. Here's a page with some of his models: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=9900061a

Also, a dreadnought he painted:

"John French sits only a few feet from me and he's recently spent a lot of time painting things red in preparation for the forthcoming Codex: Blood Angels. John has a very particular style of painting and likes his models to look gritty, gothic and battle-worn. After undercoating the model with Skull White, he used the Spray Gun to basecoat it with Red Gore. To weather the Dreadnought he used a Stippling Brush to apply patches of Scorched Brown and Chainmail. Finally, he washed the model with Devlan Mud. Notice the scorched effect on the assault cannon that John achieved by stippling Chaos Black over Chainmail."
Link: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=9200017a

And he plays Chaos too apparently: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=6500025a

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Looks like John French has written for the Call of Cthulhu RPG as well, alongside Alan Bligh. They gave a seminar on writing for the RPG industry. More info: http://www.yog-sothoth.com/content/922-Continuum-2010-Seminar-Recordings

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Non-GW/BL-associated author links:

There also seems to be a John L. French who writes crime stories and is interested in crime scene investigation. He may or may not be the same person. It would certianly seems complementary interest to have if one were writing Dark Heresy.

Mention of two non-GW publications on this page:
http://lukereviews.webs.com/inthemail.htm

"8/25/10 - Bad Cop, No Donut edited by John L. French (from Padwolf Publishing)"

8/25/10 - Past Sins by John L. French (from Padwolf Publishing)"

Looks like those books have not been reviewed yet.

Amazon link for "Bad Cop, No Donut": http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Cop-No-Donut-Behaving/dp/1890096458/ref=sr_1_11?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291244106&sr=1-11

Also, Amazon lists an Encyclopedia of Crime Scene Investigation. John L. French is one of the two authors/editors. Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Crime-Scene-Investigation/dp/0816068151/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291244106&sr=1-6

Same fellow seems to write something in an occult-crimes setting that includes demon-possesed serial killers. Link to more info: http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/12110647/used/Dead%20to%20Rites%3A%20The%20Dma%20Casefiles%20of%20Agent%20Karver

Finally, the same fellow contributed to Alfred Hitchcock's Mystery, Volume 40, number 4: April Apr 1995. Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/ALFRED-HITCHCOCKS-MYSTERY-Copperhead-Gangsters/dp/B000ICDPA2/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291244453&sr=1-2

Followed that up with a "Padwolf Publishing" search and found a blog (http://damcphail.livejournal.com/tag/new blood) mentioning a John L. French appearing at a fantasy/sci-fi convention called Balticon, apparently as a presenting author. He also apparently did some sort of CSI-style presentation there, involving the blog poster as a corpse in his presentation.

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Aaaaand finally, given the common interests of militaria it'snot unlikely that GW's John French also wrote "The British In India 1826-59"
For more info see http://wargamesfoundry.com/books/military_book/any/any/the_british_in_india_fp009/

--END REPORT--


[Well, that's my bit of heavily-caffeinated internet timewasting for the day. I mean, my servitor's.]





Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 01:39:29


Post by: Alpharius


Awesome - thanks for the info!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 17:56:36


Post by: reds8n


Last Chance for free eBooks; Atlas Inferno Cover Art
Today is your last chance to download some free Ebooks. So if you haven't downladed all five of them yet, go get them before they disappear. We’ve just finalised the cover for the forthcoming Inquisitor Czevak novel, Atlas Inferno*, and we thought you should be the first ones to see it. Click on the image for a closer look at Stef Kopinski's artwork.

Oh, and make sure you don't miss tomorrow's post - we've something extra-special in store for you.

*Does anyone else think it’s an ironic time of year to be featuring the cover art from a book with’ ‘inferno’ in the title?




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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 18:15:59


Post by: Kanluwen


It's Grimdark Elton John!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 18:19:02


Post by: Grarg


Let's hope that the book is far better than the cover....

Although, gotta love the mo.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 18:20:41


Post by: Alpharius


I see that he's adopted the look of those most Fashion Forward of all the Eldar...

Maybe its mandatory for entrance into the Black Library?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 18:22:20


Post by: BrookM


I'm not a fan of the author so far, sorry. I still need to finish the "ultra hardcore balls hard" Redemption Corps, which is frankly, hard to get through.

I am hoping that the Inferno thing implies something good for the old mag.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Right, they've removed the Inferno! references from their blog post..


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 18:40:08


Post by: reds8n


I was wondering.

.. didn't one of the Inquisition guys in the old Draco series wear a coat like that ....?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 18:57:26


Post by: Kanluwen


Probably not.

But then again Draco is full of weird crap, so maybe.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 19:05:30


Post by: BrookM


reds8n wrote: I was wondering.

.. didn't one of the Inquisition guys in the old Draco series wear a coat like that ....?
Yes, I know who you mean, can't remember his name though. The guy who survived daemonic possession.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 19:05:51


Post by: reds8n




"The Harlequin man" Zephro Carnelian, he's the one I'm thinking of, but I'm not sure if he had a coat like that or not.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/02 19:09:08


Post by: BrookM


The way he was described I always imagined him more as a pimp with his feathered fedora. But it could be that Czevak wears such a coat as a mark of honour from the Harlequin. Zephro wore something similar outlandish.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/03 09:36:41


Post by: reds8n


The blurb about the above...

Inquisitor Bronislaw Czevak is a hunted man. Escaping from the Black Library of the eldar, Czevak steals the Atlas Infernal – a living map of the Webway. With this fabled artefact and his supreme intellect, Czevak foils the predations of the Harlequins sent to apprehend him and thwarts his enemies within the Inquisition who want to kill him. Czevak’s deadliest foe, however, is Ahriman – arch-sorcerer of the Thousand Sons. He desires the knowledge within the Black Library, knowledge that can exalt him to godhood, and is willing to destroy the inquisitor to obtain it. A desperate chase that will bend the fabric of reality ensues, where Czevak’s only hope of survival is to outwit the chosen of Tzeentch, Lord of Chaos and Architect of Fate. Failure is unconscionable, the very cost to the Imperium unimaginable.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/03 09:59:07


Post by: H.B.M.C.


If his intellect was as supreme as he claims he would have made committed the book to memory. And I really hope that 'Atlas Infernal' is the Imperial name for the book, because the Eldar naming their 'Atlas' after a part of Greek mythology makes no sense...


And the coat he's wearing is quite reminiscent of the cloaks the Adeptus Astra Telepathica models GW made a million years ago.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/03 10:09:43


Post by: BrookM


Heh, come to think of it, the novel reminds me a bit of the 13th Black Crusade, where the Thousand Sons had the hunt for the Black Library as their interest in the conflict. By then they had already captured Czevak though. How was this resolved at the end of the conflict?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/03 13:44:27


Post by: Kanluwen


Spoiler:
If I remember right, Czevak was captured--but the Harlequins broke him free and kept him within the Black Library


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/03 18:34:19


Post by: reds8n


As promised yesterday, we’ve something extra-special for you today - an extract from the forthcoming Prospero Burns audio book.


On the subject of Dan, he and Graham have just confirmed that they’ll be touring the UK, signing copies of Propsero Burns and God King respectively. So, whatever plans you had for January, cancel them. We’ll post the full details of the tour on Monday, so make sure you check back then.

Remember last week when we asked to you to tell us which novels you’d like as eBooks? Well, we listened, and have added two more Horus Heresy titles (Nemesis and False Gods), and two Time of Legends titles (Heldenhammer and Empire), to our eBook range. Enjoy.



http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/Prospero-Audio-Extract-God-King-Tour-More-eBooks.html



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 02:17:54


Post by: Alpharius


At the end of this video:




Dan mentions that he's already mentioned the title of his next HH series book... but he won't do it again, for fear of doing something he wasn't supposed to!

Even though he already has!

Anyone know what he's talking about?

He also mentions that it is going to be unexpected, surprising and, yes, Awesomesauce!

Help me out!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 03:34:25


Post by: Kanluwen


Pfah. You don't know about his secret project, Alph? I mean your name relates to it and all.

*pokes the bear*


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 16:56:46


Post by: Alpharius


I can't remember.

It happens.

Especially when you get... older.

I do love all the references to WANTING to write another Alpha Legion book, as well as books better (fully?) explaining the Emperor's plans and motivations, as well as the Lost Legions, and... all that!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 18:28:53


Post by: reds8n


And a nice competition too


New Horus Heresy Book – let the speculation begin.
Here's a look at Neil Roberts’ rough sketch of the cover for Graham McNeill’s forthcoming Horus Heresy title. If you're the first person to guess the title, we'll send you a signed copy of the book well before it's official release date. We might even thrown in a couple of extras. Post your answer by commenting on this post* or on our Facebook page.


http://www.blacklibrary.com/Default.aspx

..hmm.. ideas then folks ? Looks to me like some scouts, some one in some old, old OLD armour.... and an Astropath.


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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 18:42:53


Post by: 1hadhq


Interesting pic.
Now Mk I was outdated in pre-heresy times....

Unification war?

A plan to jump back to the early stages of the IoM and tell us about ???

Why do you think its an Astropath?
Background for other organizations than marines wouldn't be bad.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 18:44:55


Post by: BrookM


Looks more like a Navigator to me, with the third eye on the forehead.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 18:57:19


Post by: reds8n


I don't think this book goes backwards, timeline wise.... Prospero Burns is more your baby there, there's quite big chunks about the crusade era Imperium really.. but that's a whol other conversation and I haven't finsihed it yet either so..

Could be a Navigator I guess, I suggest it's an astropath as IIRC the author in question stated a while back he had plans to do a book about them and Astartes of uncertain/undecided loyalties on Terra.


And it looks kind of greenish to me in regards to it's robes.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 20:54:45


Post by: Alpharius


reds8n wrote: I don't think this book goes backwards, timeline wise.... Prospero Burns is more your baby there, there's quite big chunks about the crusade era Imperium really.. but that's a whol other conversation and I haven't finsihed it yet either so..


Awesome news there!

It isn't out until 12/28 here, but I cannot wait now!

I love anything we can get about the Crusade Era stuff... I'd kill for some Unification War stories!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/06 20:56:50


Post by: Kanluwen


reds8n wrote:And a nice competition too


New Horus Heresy Book – let the speculation begin.
Here's a look at Neil Roberts’ rough sketch of the cover for Graham McNeill’s forthcoming Horus Heresy title. If you're the first person to guess the title, we'll send you a signed copy of the book well before it's official release date. We might even thrown in a couple of extras. Post your answer by commenting on this post* or on our Facebook page.


http://www.blacklibrary.com/Default.aspx

..hmm.. ideas then folks ? Looks to me like some scouts, some one in some old, old OLD armour.... and an Astropath.


It looks to me like it's minders for an Astropath hiding their charge on board a ship.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/07 17:00:20


Post by: reds8n


Todays' update...


More storming Space Marine artwork for you, courtesy of Mr Hardy Fowler. This mean-looking character will be gracing the cover of The Madness Within – an audio drama from Steve Lyons, released next summer. None of us here can remember exactly what a ‘summer’ is, but we’re sure it’s the perfect time to read about Crimson Fists, daemons and lunatic Librarians.



info about that...

Desperate and isolated, Sergeant Estabann and Brother Cordoba of the Crimson Fists Space Marines are hunting the daemon that destroyed their battle-brothers. Their only hope remains with a Librarian on the edge of sanity, a potentially tainted Astartes who they are forced to trust. His psychic abilities can lead them to the daemon, where Estabann and Cordoba can avenge their brothers’ deaths. But is the greatest threat a foul denizen of the warp, or the power contained within a psyker’s mind?



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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/07 17:19:29


Post by: Pyroriffic


God, I love Hardy Fowler's Space Marines.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/07 17:58:51


Post by: Death By Monkeys


Man, I hope it's better than Rynn's World. Being a long-time CF fan, I picked it up to help motivate me to finish painting my CF army. Instead, it was pretty de-motivational. By the time I finished, not only was I not interested in painting my CF, I was ready to start playing Warmachine.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/07 18:52:23


Post by: Alpharius


Alpharius wrote:At the end of this video:




Dan mentions that he's already mentioned the title of his next HH series book... but he won't do it again, for fear of doing something he wasn't supposed to!

Even though he already has!

Anyone know what he's talking about?

He also mentions that it is going to be unexpected, surprising and, yes, Awesomesauce!

Help me out!


So, can someone help me out here, please?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/07 20:48:13


Post by: Savnock


Death By Monkeys wrote:Man, I hope it's better than Rynn's World. Being a long-time CF fan, I picked it up to help motivate me to finish painting my CF army. Instead, it was pretty de-motivational. By the time I finished, not only was I not interested in painting my CF, I was ready to start playing Warmachine.


Ditto that for The Hunt for Voldorious, and moreso. My wish to play White Scars pretty much disappeared after reading it. That's also why I've been holding off from Path of the Warrior: must paint 11 tanks this month and cannot slack off due to ennui over crappy fluff! The reviews of Path here have been good, but then some folks said they liked Voldorious too...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 00:24:22


Post by: Alpharius


Yeah, The Hunt for Voldorius was not the BL's finest stuff.

It was 'OK', but really, I wish the entire "GW Fiction Writing Staff" would read the memos on certain things, and then write accordingly...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 08:17:34


Post by: reds8n


Pyroriffic wrote:God, I love Hardy Fowler's Space Marines.


..I hope that's a hint .. or is it more of a plea ?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 08:26:43


Post by: BrookM


Just finished Dead Men Walking and meh, just meh. For a book about the Death Korps there is quite a lack of Death Korps. While sure, they are made to be distant and inhuman, this was going a bit too far by hardly mentioning them.

I also got Aenarion and Throne of Lies at long last. Aenarion is nice but the ending is rather, ehhhh? I was perhaps hoping for a bit more. Only listened to half of Throne so far, but good stuff.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 09:25:37


Post by: reds8n


What did you think of the Necrons in Dead Man Walking ?

I liked the stuff about how the DKoK and co. were ordered to try and throw away their weapons when they got shot,a s they're harder to replace/more valuable than the men.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 09:29:07


Post by: BrookM


The Necrons were as mysterious as ever, could this be a preview of what is to come, as with Firedrake's Dark Eldar and Wulfrik's Chaos Dwarves?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 09:36:54


Post by: reds8n


That's what I was wondering too.

The more...err.... "Tomb King Lord" nature of the Necron leader would seem to fit nicely with how we've seen the Necrons portrayed of late.

...Wulfrik and Warrior Priest both great.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 09:48:24


Post by: BrookM


If anything, DMW was a story about the locals. What a sad pile that was, depressing to say at the very least. The Necrons were very much overpowered, turning them into something of a cliché in my eyes. But it was interesting to see that they weren't actively hunting down everybody they came across.

Still waiting for Warrior Priest to arrive, postal services be damned. Well, even if I get it this week, I'll still have to wait until Christmas.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 09:50:05


Post by: greenbay924


reds8n wrote:
...Wulfrik and Warrior Priest both great.


I've read Warrior Priest and agree, great book, most of the empire series has been good so far, I still have to read Iron Company and Reiksguard.
Haven't gotten to Wulfrik, though it's on the list (kind of far down at the moment)
I made the mistake of reading Sword of Justice, and now have to wait the 2-3 months for Sword of Vengeance to come out!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 10:12:38


Post by: reds8n


I hear that !

Reiksguard, narrowly, edges Warrior Priest as the best in this series IMo, if only for the lengths the author went to when writing it, especially with regards to the sword fights.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 10:25:57


Post by: BrookM


I find the Empire novel series so-so so far. Reiksguard is the best in the bunch so far, period. Much like the Guard novel series, which is also so-so except for two novels: Fifteen Hours and Cadian Blood.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 13:56:48


Post by: Temujin


BrookM wrote:Just finished Dead Men Walking and meh, just meh. For a book about the Death Korps there is quite a lack of Death Korps. While sure, they are made to be distant and inhuman, this was going a bit too far by hardly mentioning them.


reds8n wrote:I liked the stuff about how the DKoK and co. were ordered to try and throw away their weapons when they got shot,a s they're harder to replace/more valuable than the men.


BrookM wrote:If anything, DMW was a story about the locals. What a sad pile that was, depressing to say at the very least. The Necrons were very much overpowered, turning them into something of a cliché in my eyes. But it was interesting to see that they weren't actively hunting down everybody they came across.


I loved Dead Man Walking, but I agree it was very much a novel about the dehumanisation inherent in war and the effect of the war on the locals. A great book set in the 40k universe rather than a book about the 40k universe, which is in most cases exactly how it should be. I think the DKOK got some great chracterisation (irony intented) towards the end, but I can understand being disappointed if you went in purely for the DKOK element. Still, I rate it as one of the better BL books I've ever read, particularly given the great ending. I wasn't really interested in the Necrons as the villains of the book, but I don't think it did them any disservice.

As for my current reading I'm tentatively getting into the Sigmar series. It's not really a series I imagined myself reading, but I've enjoyed it so far. The quality of the writing has been a pleasant surprise. I hope the latter half of the book doesn't disappoint and I'll very likely pick up the second book in the series when I finish this one.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 16:39:52


Post by: reds8n



Todays update and info..

Excusive Age of Darkness Extract; God King Tour Dates
For today’s treat, we’ve an extract from Rob Sanders’ Iron Within, which features in the forthcoming Horus Heresy anthology, Age of Darkness.




I was there. On that tiny world, in a forgotten system, in a distant corner of the galaxy: where a mighty blow was struck against the renegade Warmaster and his alliance of the lost and damned. There, on Lesser Damantyne. I was among the few, who stood against many. The brother who spilled his brothers’ blood. The son who betrayed his wayward father’s word. And that word was… heresy.

For a bloody day, beyond an Ancient Terran year we fought. Olympians all. Iron Warriors answering the call of their Primarch and Emperor. The cold eyes of both watching from afar. Judging. Expecting. Willing their Iron Warriors on like absentee gods drawn to mortal plight by the reek of battle: the unmistakable stench of blood and burning.

I was there when Warsmith Krendl visited upon us a swarm of Stormbirds. Disgorged from the fat cruiser Benthos and heavily-laden with troops and ordnance, the aircraft blotted out the stars and fell upon our world like a flock of winged thunderbolts. Blasting through the thick cloud of Damantyne’s hostile surface, the Stormbirds would have rocketed through the cave systems and disgorged their own brand of horror on our readying position. Warsmith Dantioch had ordered the Orphic Gate collapsed mere hours before, however, and all the flock found there was rock and destruction, as, one after another, they struck the planet surface.

I was there when the mighty god machines of the Legio Argentum, denied entrance to the gate also, had to stride through the acid hellstorms of Lesser Damantyne. Like blind, tormented behemoths they tumbled and crashed through the squalls and cyclones, their armoured shells rust-riddled and giant automotive systems eaten away. The infamous Omnia Victrum, the sunder of a hundred worlds, was one of three flash-flayed war machines that managed to stumble to a sinkhole colossal enough to admit their dimensions. And there the screaming hordes that crewed the god machines were confronted with the unfathomable labyrinth of the planet’s gargantuan cave system and the reality that they might be lost for eternity in the deep and the dark.

I was there when Warsmith Dantioch ordered the giant ground-pumps to life and the lake of crude promethium burst its banks, flooding the floor of our huge cavern-home with a raging, black ichor. I watched as the Nadir-Maru 4th Juntarians and more bombardment cannon than a man could count were drowned in a deluge of oil and death. I roared my dismay as columns of my traitor brethren marched on the pumps through the settling shallows, to sabotage the great machinery. I roared my delight when my Warsmith ordered the slick surface of the crude promethium ignited about them. A blaze so bright that it not only roasted the Iron Warriors within their plate but brought light to the cavern the depths had never known.

I was on the Schadenhold’s battlements as our own cannon and artillery placements reduced Warsmith Krendl’s reserve Stormbirds to fireballs of wreckage. I saw the small armies they landed on our keeps and towers fall to their deaths like rain from our inverse architecture. I fought with the Sons of Dantioch – genebred hulks of monstrous proportion – as they tore 4th Juntarians limb from limb in the killzones and courtyards. I walked amongst Colonel Kruishank’s Ninth–Ward Angeloi Adamantiphracts as their disciplined lasfire lit up the ramparts and cut their traitor opposites to smouldering shreds. I looked down on a fortress swamped in carnage, where you could not walk for bodies and could not breathe for blood that lay hanging in the air like a murderous fog.

Finally, I fought in the tight corridors and dread architecture of the Warsmith’s design. Took life on an obscene scale, face to face with my Iron Warrior brethren. Murdered in the Emperor’s name and matched the cold certainty of my brothers’ desire. Killed with the same chill logic and fire in my belly as my enemy had for me. Measured my might in the blood of traitors whose might should have measured my own. I was there. In the Schadenhold. On Lesser Damantyne. Where few stood against many and, amongst the fratricidal nightmare of battle, brothers bled and heresy found its form.







We announced last week that Graham McNeill will be touring the UK with his latest release, God King, in January. Here’s a breakdown of where and when Graham will be.


Date Time Location
Saturday 8th January
11am - 2pm
Games Workshop Glasgow

Sunday 9th January
1pm - 4pm
Games Workshop Edinburgh

Saturday 22nd January
10am - Noon
Games Workshop Manchester

Saturday 22nd January
3pm - 5pm
Games Workshop Birmingham




Good to see the premier, and overall bestest traitor Legion, the undisputed masters of siege warfare get a chance to shine.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 16:46:30


Post by: skrulnik


So from that excerpt I gather that it is Iron Warriors against Iron Warriors?

A neat showing that not all the Marines turned with the Legion's Primarch


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 16:53:07


Post by: Manchu


reds8n wrote:

"The Harlequin man" Zephro Carnelian, he's the one I'm thinking of, but I'm not sure if he had a coat like that or not.


Carnelian is in the back.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 18:24:34


Post by: Kanluwen


Received my copy of "The Bloody Handed God" by Gav Thorpe.

Just finished it. Loved it. Want more!

It's also nice that it includes a text copy of "Aenarion" and some awesome illustrations, including Khainites hauling a kidnapped Beastman for a sacrifice.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 19:22:10


Post by: BrookM


Just finished listening to Throne of Lies for the fourth time. All I can say is.. yes! Best audio drama to date.

One question though, Throne of Lies comes right after Soul Hunter, where does the short story The Core fit into this? Is this a sequel to the yet to be released Blood Reaver?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 19:24:57


Post by: MajorTom11


Read Nemesis and First Heretic this week... Nemesis was average for me but enjoyable, First Heretic I actually enjoyed quite a bit! Thought it was in the top 3 Heresy books for me so far!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 19:27:11


Post by: skrulnik


BrookM wrote:Just finished listening to Throne of Lies for the fourth time. All I can say is.. yes! Best audio drama to date.

One question though, Throne of Lies comes right after Soul Hunter, where does the short story The Core fit into this? Is this a sequel to the yet to be released Blood Reaver?


The Core is set after Blood Reaver.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 19:32:33


Post by: BrookM


skrulnik wrote:
BrookM wrote:Just finished listening to Throne of Lies for the fourth time. All I can say is.. yes! Best audio drama to date.

One question though, Throne of Lies comes right after Soul Hunter, where does the short story The Core fit into this? Is this a sequel to the yet to be released Blood Reaver?


The Core is set after Blood Reaver.
Huh, odd that. Did AD-B give a reason for this?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 19:43:52


Post by: Kanluwen


Because he wanted to try it as an experiment.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/08 20:57:13


Post by: skrulnik


Wasn't Blood Reaver done at the time he wrote The Core?

I thought the experiment aspect was that he knew that the short story would come out before the novel.

My thoughts:
If I am a writer and stories are done, in my mind the timeline has moved on, whether anyone has read it yet or not.
So it wouldn't be odd at all to write a short story that, to me, is in order. Its the publishing side that makes it out of order.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/09 16:11:00


Post by: reds8n


First Look: Hammer & Anvil Cover Art
Here’s a first look at Hardy Fowler’s artwork for Hammer & Anvil. The detail in the face (check out those eyes) and on the armour is phenomenal. Hammer & Anvil is James Swallow’s follow up to Faith & Fire.





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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/09 17:04:17


Post by: BrookM


Ooh, finally a new hairstyle for the iron ladies, about time they got rid of those horrible haircuts.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/09 17:31:20


Post by: Kanluwen


Is it just me or does she look a little bit cold?

I don't remember that "bump" ever being on the Fleur de Lys before...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/09 17:52:01


Post by: skrulnik


Its the same fleur as the SOB in the big rule book.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 16:48:19


Post by: Lint


TBH It does seem very well placed.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 18:07:01


Post by: reds8n


todays update..

eBooks?; Imperial Glory Cover Art; Prospero Tour Dates; Pre-signed God King
Regular readers will have noticed that there are no new eBooks to download today. I’m going to blame it on the snow because I’ve no idea what the phrase ‘invalid data-packet’ means. Anyway, we’ll have a bunch of new eBooks for you to download on Monday. Normal eBook service will be resumed next Friday.

Right then, on with the cool stuff - Clint Langley’s fantastic piece of artwork for Richard Williams’ Imperial Glory.


In other news, Dan Abnett will be out and about in January to celebrate the launch of his latest Horus Heresy title, Prospero Burns. He’ll be in Games Workshop Hobby Centres up and down the UK, ready and waiting to sign your books and chat about all things Heresy. Though, he probably won’t mind if you want to talk about Gaunt’s Ghosts or any of his other books either. You’ll find a list of where and when he’ll be signing below.


Date Time Location
Saturday 8th January
10am - Noon
Games Workshop Nottingham

Saturday 8th January
2pm - 4pm
Games Workshop Meadow Hall

Sunday 9th January
11am - 1pm
Games Workshop Leeds

Saturday 22nd January
11am - 1pm
Games Workshop Thurrock

Saturday 22nd January
3pm - 5pm
Games Workshop Bluewater



Yesterday, we shackled Graham McNeill to a desk and ‘convinced’ him to sign a stack of God King. So, as an extra treat, there will be a limited amount of signed copies of God King available from the Hobby Centres that Dan is signing at.





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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 18:59:39


Post by: Kanluwen


Oh feth yes @ Imperial Glory's cover.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 19:11:01


Post by: BrookM


Richard Williams is doing an Imperial Guard novel? ACE.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 19:12:46


Post by: reds8n


Yeah, Relentless was cracking and I loved Reiksguard

Tired and broken by war, the men of the Brimlock Eleventh Imperial Guard are a force on the verge of collapse. Having been stretched across the galaxy by their loyalty to the Emperor, they are presented with one final battle that will allow them reward they all seek: to colonise the distant world of Voor and live out the rest of their days in peace. All that stands in their way is a force of savages – a plague of feral orks that has spread across the planet. But can the Brimlock’s battered bodies and minds hold up to this greenskin invasion?


Sounds good to me.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 19:16:39


Post by: Lord of battles


Nice one! I can't wait to pick that one up!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/10 22:33:24


Post by: Kanluwen


reds8n wrote:Yeah, Relentless was cracking and I loved Reiksguard

Tired and broken by war, the men of the Brimlock Eleventh Imperial Guard are a force on the verge of collapse. Having been stretched across the galaxy by their loyalty to the Emperor, they are presented with one final battle that will allow them reward they all seek: to colonise the distant world of Voor and live out the rest of their days in peace. All that stands in their way is a force of savages – a plague of feral orks that has spread across the planet. But can the Brimlock’s battered bodies and minds hold up to this greenskin invasion?


Sounds good to me.

You know what makes me curious...
Brimlock 11th is more (in)famous for being among the forces that stalled Shadowsun.

Hrmh...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/12 07:20:25


Post by: Temujin


Is it just me or has the Black Library site been down for the last 24 hours?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/12 22:14:01


Post by: AJCarrington


I was having he same problem, but the site seems to be back up now.

AJC


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 11:41:34


Post by: Flachzange


Hammer & Anvil cover art, posted by Mr Swallow:

http://jmswallow.livejournal.com/114559.html


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 11:51:55


Post by: Malika2


That face is almost manga like! *shock*


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 12:08:51


Post by: reds8n


.. didn't read page 47 eh ?

Prospero Burns and Godking hit the shelves -- in the Uk anyway, not sure about overseas, sorry folks -- this coming weekend. Haven't got round to the latter yet, but was sufficiently blown away, impressed, and puzzled by the former that it can safely be chalked up as a solid win. Closer to "Legion" than "A Thousand Sons" IMO. Not quite what I'd been expecting from the initial pitch of the books, but satisfied nevertheless.

Now if my poxy copy of "The Bloody Handed" has the decency to turn up I will be happy.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 12:57:21


Post by: BrookM


I'm surprised BL didn't have a free shipping deal this time round. They usually have one.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 13:55:56


Post by: Ed_Bodger


Hmm I am somewhat confused Amazon is saying that Prospero burns will not be dispatched until the 6th January whereas BL are saying it will be shipped on the 6th of December. Amazon are also selling it for £3.99 whereas it is costing £7.99 in BL. I placed my order with Amazon a year ago so think I'll just wait for whenever they decide to deliver it.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 14:07:45


Post by: Flachzange


reds8n wrote:.. didn't read page 47 eh ?


yikes. I actually thought I did. Maybe I passed out after that weirdo pic including Carnelian
Shouldve known that that I wouldnt be able to ninja you lol


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 19:40:34


Post by: reds8n


Update time...

New eBooks; Graham McNeill on BL TV; High Elf Artwork
As promised on Friday, we’ve some new eBooks for you to download today. And not just any eBooks but a fine selection of firsts. There’s Gaunt’s Ghosts: First and Only, the first book Black Library ever printed; Bill King’s Trollslayer, the first book in the Gotrek and Felix series; and The Daemon’s Curse by Dan Abnett and Mike Lee, which is the first book in the Dark Blade series.


Also today, episode 16 of Black Library TV. This time we catch up with Graham McNeill as he reminisces about 2010, a year in which he won the David Gemmell Legend award and featured on the New York Times best-seller list. He also talks a bit about his forthcoming High Elves novel, Sons of Ellyrion, and drops some hints about his next Horus Heresy novel.








Spoiler:
An astropath eh ? Who'd have thought or mentioned that eh ?




Speaking of Sons of Ellyrion, check out this great picture by Marek Okon, which will feature on the book’s cover.





As Graham mentioned in the interview, Defenders of Ulthuan (the prequel to Sons of Ellyrion) is getting re-released with a new cover.





And here’s both covers as they were initially drawn – as one fantastic piece of art.


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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/13 20:30:27


Post by: Just Dave


His next HH novel sounds really quite interesting and appealing, I remember a conversation earlier in this thread about the appeal of narrative over constant fighting and this novel seems to entail just that as well as a much more mysterious plot and ending...
Lovely.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/14 00:13:03


Post by: nels1031


These covers keep getting better and better!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/14 23:01:38


Post by: Lord of battles


^ Yes everything from the Black Library seems to be getting better and better!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/15 10:42:59


Post by: reds8n


Just a small update for/from Tuesday...

Chris Wright's Sketches for 'Battle of the Fang'
Our studio manager Darius was sifting through his drawer today and came across Chris Wraight’s sketches for Battle of the Fang. Here, take a look.




Space Marine Battles books are different from our other books in that they contain force diagrams, maps and such. Normally what happens is that the author will sketch (in some cases doodle) roughly what they envisage going into the book and then our art department turns them into what eventually appears in the book. The drawings also provide the author with a handy resource, helping them to visualise the story.

Battle of the Fang is out net summer, while the latest addition to the Space Marine Battles series, Gav Thorpe’s The Purging of Kadillus, can be pre-ordered now.



link to post with pictures in .

Looking forward to this a lot.



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/15 10:49:18


Post by: BrookM


I can hardly wait myself.

I'm also still waiting for some other gems.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/15 18:37:16


Post by: reds8n


Another wee Age of darkness extract..

Exclusive Age of Darkness Extract


From the short story ‘Forgotten Sons’, by Nick Kyme:
Heka’tan was naked but for a pair of training fatigues. He had prepared the ash and the brazier. He had observed the rites and warmed the branding iron. The flame was born in the cradle, and within its blazing grasp he found purity and a sense of truth. Repressed memory came with it…

The dropship was taking fire from all sides. Much of its armour plating was punched through by lascannon blasts and several of its heavy bolter armaments were destroyed. Heat emanated from the interior. Shadows lurked there, of broken bodies silhouetted a visceral red from the incendiary fires inside. The guts of the ship lay strewn across the Isstvan plane where a cloying fug of smoke roiled. Hot tracer whickered through air screaming with the discharge of bolters and heavy cannon. Somewhere in the distance, by a shrouded ridgeline, an explosion blossomed.

‘Ta… king… vy… ire…’ The broken vox report crackled in Heka’tan’s ear.

‘Gravius! Is that you, brother?’

‘Affir… mative, brother… aptain…’

‘Fall back immediately and assume defensive postures.’

Around him, the fight was intensifying. Gunfire, scores of overlapping bolter bursts, rose to a deafening frenzy. Enemy cohorts were massing from the east and west, and advancing on their position.

Enemy cohorts.

The notion was insane, a crazed nightmare brought to life on a dead world with only the dead to witness it. For surely, that’s what they all were.

‘Brother… aptain…’ There was a pause not caused by the static interference.

Figures were resolving through the artificial fog. Their hulking forms wore the colour of hard steel, of grey unyielding metal. Iron.

The Urgall Depression was no place for a last stand. The ravine resembled a charnel field and not a place about which great deeds were sung. There would be no glory face down in the blood-drenched tundra slain by one’s own brothers.

Gravius continued and for once the link was clean. ‘What’s happening?’

Heka’tan had three hundred and sixty-two Astartes left in his command. They had forged a ring around the shattered dropship. Over half that number again was forever entombed inside their vessel, lost before the fight had even begun, a fight the brother-captain didn’t understand.

‘Assume defensive postures,’ he answered, for want of something better, something that made sense.

The line of iron opened up its weapons. Fusillade met fusillade as both sides engaged, hundreds of muzzle flares ripping up the smoke like jagged knives of hot light.

It was but a skirmish in a maelstrom of death. This was a battle like no other. It was a reckoning. It was a show of force. But above all else it was fratricide on an epic scale.

Heka’tan’s words to Gravius sounded hollow even to him. ‘Hold out as long as you can.’

It was over. Even before he’d seen the armoured column advancing behind the infantry, Heka’tan knew it. He took a round to the shoulder, the explosive impact nearly tearing off the pad and spinning him. A second struck him in the chest and he staggered.

One of his own, Ikon he thought, died to a throat wound. More followed, too numerous and rapid to count. Apothecaries were a pointless luxury during this nascent massacre. The air shimmered with the heat of shells passing so close that some struck one another and deviated from their original targets. Above, Thunderhawks and Stormbirds tried to affect an escape. Heka’tan saw several in the livery of the Raven Guard and Iron Hands plunge from the smoke-blackened sky like fire-wreathed comets. Distant explosions announced their destruction.

Bleak was not the word for their chances.

Fatalism, yes, but capitulation was not amongst Heka’tan’s emotional vocabulary. Sons of Nocturne were born of sterner stock. They came from the earth and its fiery heart-blood. They would not go to Mount Deathfire with the foe unbloodied.

‘Burn them!’



http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/Excusive-Age-of-Darkness-Extract.html


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/15 20:35:17


Post by: Bantha--Fodder


looks very promising


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 12:35:11


Post by: reds8n


"Hammer and Bolter" #3 is now available for download.

I must confess aside from the free first issue, I haven't kept up to date with this so far.. just can't quite get into this whole digital book thing.

have other Dakka members been buying it at all ?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 12:45:30


Post by: BrookM


I'm keeping off until I have the proper device to read them. Seeing as iPads are a bit on the expensive side..


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 13:00:42


Post by: Alpharius


I had no idea they were already up to #3...

Oops!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 14:42:53


Post by: reds8n


In BL related news...

http://gemmellaward.com/page/legend-1

This is the hub/page for all the Nominees for the 2010/11 David Gemmell LEGEND Award!

We will be listing and linking to the Nominees as the information comes in from the various publishers worldwide...

...and the first ones in...

( and if one scrolls down.. )




BLACK LIBRARY:

THORPE, Gav - Shadow King



Good for him !


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 15:14:05


Post by: Kanluwen


HOORAY! SHADOW KING! HOOOOOOOOOOOORAY!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 15:41:14


Post by: Temujin


Hammer and Bolter #1 was great, and would be well worth picking up even if you missed it when it was free. #2 wasn't nearly as consistent, but it's a collection of short stories that vary widely in subject matter and quality, and I think it just depends on how this format appeals to you. If you are stuck with your obsolete paper books I wouldn't worry too much about it - I certainly wouldn't upgrade to an e-reader just for this (though I'd wholeheartedly recommend ditching paper at the earliest opportunity anyway).

I just picked up the 3rd issue, along with Prospero Burns, Empire, God King, Skavenslayer and Ghostmaker. Should keep me occupied during the holidays.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 15:43:53


Post by: BrookM


While I will defend Inferno! until death, it too suffered from a varying quality of entries every issue, but still good stuff, I treasure them like something that should be treasured. Anyway, varying quality comes with the mag sadly, seeing as they are doing these monthly, so they need to keep up a steady stream of entries.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 17:58:08


Post by: Manchu




Heartbreaking-ly good.

Thanks for the 1,582,348th time, red. Or is it the 1,582,349th?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 19:16:44


Post by: reds8n


New eBooks & audio books; Cover-art revealed


It’s all go here in the Black Library office today. We’ve just eBooked: Bloodstorm, which is book two in the Darkblade series; Skaven Slayer, the second book in the Gotrek and Felix series; Gaunts Ghosts: Ghostmaker, the second book in Dan’s illustrious Imperial Guard series; and Tales of Heresy, the first Horus Heresy short story anthology.

Christian has just finished Hammer & Bolter issue 3, and Ragnar’s updated the ‘Coming Soon’ section to include all of the covers through to September 2011, including the cracking cover for Nagash Immortal.

As if that wasn't enough both Prospero Burns and God King have been given the star-treatment: now available as eBooks and full, unabridged audio books (that’s 16 hours a piece!).

Over the weekend we’ll be finalising what books we’re releasing in 2011 – check back then to find out.




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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 19:58:38


Post by: BrookM


Gah, still too far off.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 22:59:55


Post by: Death By Monkeys


Wow, so that's what Nagash is supposed to look like!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/17 23:41:42


Post by: Lord of battles


As opposed to this:


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 17:58:52


Post by: BrookM


God King and Prospero Burns have both arrived. I'm going to go against popular trend and start with God King first.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 18:13:30


Post by: Kanluwen


If it makes you feel better Brook, I'm refusing to read "A Thousand Sons" until I have "Prospero Burns" in my possession too.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 18:47:26


Post by: Alpharius


There's no reason to do that!

Well, none that I can think of!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 19:41:22


Post by: Kanluwen


Other than "Prospero Burns" isn't out in the states, you mean


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 21:11:24


Post by: nels1031


Kanluwen wrote:Other than "Prospero Burns" isn't out in the states, you mean


My local GW has them for sale as of today. Picking it up after I leave work today. Can't wait to tear it up!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 21:16:38


Post by: Kanluwen


Yeah, the release schedule is absurd for it.

Borders/Barnes and Noble don't get it until the 28th.
Black Library started shipping it on December 6th.
My FLGS, who I asked about it on the 6th, can't get it until after January 6th or so.

This is one of the few times I actually want to have an "official" GW shop around


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/18 22:10:10


Post by: Just Dave


I'm not complain, being British it's nice to get something before the states.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/21 01:09:08


Post by: Lord of battles


Latest:
Black Library wrote:Pre-order February's Releases; 2011 Titles Revealed

As promised on Friday, you can now find a full list of all the titles we’re releasing up until January 2012, in the Coming Soon section.

Here in the BL office we’ve been busy discussing the new the titles that we’re most looking forward to. Ragnar (our web guy) is a big fan of the Space Marine Battles series and can’t wait for Gildar Rift. Darius (our art guy) is itching to read The Red Duke and saying, ‘The Red Duke! Vampire knights, as written by BL’s master of the macabre, C L Werner. It’s gonna be more sinister than Béla Lugosi dressed as a clown, carrying lots of Victorian china dolls.’ Quite. Chris (our telesales guy) is most excited about Atlas Infernal, which introduces Inquisitor Czevak and features the mysterious Eldar Harlequins. ‘I can’t wait to find out more about them [Harlequins],’ said Chris. And Neil (our ‘everything else’ guy) is frothing about The Outcast Dead, ‘I can't wait for 'The Outcast Dead'! The fate of those Space Marines from the traitorous legions who chose to remain loyal is one of the most interesting facets of the heresy to me. I loved ‘Flight of the Eisenstein’ and ‘Garro: Oath of Moment’, so with a group of loyalists from the various traitor legions escaping from incarceration on Terra as its main characters this is set to be my new favourite Heresy book.’

What title are you most excited about? Post a comment and let us know.

Back in the now, things are pretty exciting too – you can now pre-order Purging of Callidus, Gav Thorpe’s tense Dark Angels novel; Chris Wraight’s Sword of Vengeance, the sequel to Sword of Justice; Thunder & Steel, a collection of Dan Abnett’s finest Warhammer novels (including Gilead’s Blood!); and George Mann’s first audio drama Helion Rain, check out this review.


Big stuff happening! I can't wait for The Outcast Dead!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 13:37:59


Post by: Kanluwen


New artwork up:


Black Library wrote:This great bit of art from artist Slawomir Maniak will appear on the cover of the forthcoming audio drama Red & Black.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 14:32:18


Post by: warboss


Kanluwen wrote:If it makes you feel better Brook, I'm refusing to read "A Thousand Sons" until I have "Prospero Burns" in my possession too.



: )

Spoiler:


the space wolves win.




my FLGS has prospero burns but the local big box stores don't usually get them until 2-3 weeks after the games store (same with emperor protects for deathwatch). it might be annoying seeing as how the games store is 25 miles further and i only get there once every week or two but i do applaud FFG/BL for releasing it that way to support the little guys.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 18:57:18


Post by: reds8n


Darius insisted that we post this awesome piece of artwork from Stef Kopinski with everyone's favourite Colonel-commissar Ibram Gaunt!

The question is can you "Guess the Gaunt", which upcoming Ghosts novel will feature this striking pose?





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Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 19:18:36


Post by: BrookM


He's looking a bit unhealthy


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 19:46:30


Post by: Kanluwen


'Tis for "Salvation's Reach" coming October 2011.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 21:03:27


Post by: Death By Monkeys


BrookM wrote:He's looking a bit unhealthy

Indeed. Am I mistaken or does it look like he's finally gotten himself a bit of the Tanith ink along the side of his face there?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 21:36:37


Post by: Balance


Death By Monkeys wrote:
BrookM wrote:He's looking a bit unhealthy

Indeed. Am I mistaken or does it look like he's finally gotten himself a bit of the Tanith ink along the side of his face there?


I thought that was a scar.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 21:37:00


Post by: Lint


I thought the ink was from the Gerunhivers?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 21:53:15


Post by: Death By Monkeys


Balance wrote:I thought that was a scar.

I thought it was, too, at first. But looking more closely at it, I think it's a tattoo. Could be scarring, though, considering what he went through.

Lint wrote:I thought the ink was from the Gerunhivers?

The hivers might have had some, and considerable mention was made in the books about them getting some, but it was so that they could have tattoos to match the Tanith's woad-like markings.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 22:16:13


Post by: Lord of battles


reds8n wrote:
Darius insisted that we post this awesome piece of artwork from Stef Kopinski with everyone's favourite Colonel-commissar Ibram Gaunt!

The question is can you "Guess the Gaunt", which upcoming Ghosts novel will feature this striking pose?







Pelvic Thrusting!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 23:24:33


Post by: Alpharius


Death By Monkeys wrote:
Balance wrote:I thought that was a scar.

I thought it was, too, at first. But looking more closely at it, I think it's a tattoo. Could be scarring, though, considering what he went through.


Funny, because when I took a closer look at it, I thought it was a scar!

Given what we know of him, I don't think Gaunt would go and get a facial tattoo, no matter how close he feels to the Tanith!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2011/03/30 12:06:56


Post by: Kanluwen


The Vervunhivers for the most part are untattoooed. The ones who have them mostly had them prior to the whole influx post-Necropolis.

The more recent influx of non-Tanith(the Belladon First Recon from "His Last Command") are professional military, through and through, and have very little tattooing(at least facially) in their ranks.

Anyways, it's definitely scarring. Notice that there's raised flesh to either side of it, casting a shadow in between. That doesn't happen with tattoos


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/22 23:50:59


Post by: warboss


BrookM wrote:He's looking a bit unhealthy


i dunno. he's still got less liver spots than your average scout-just-became-a-full-marine in the ultramarines movie. *zing*


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 00:23:12


Post by: Lint


Kanluwen wrote:The Vervunhivers for the most part are untattoooed.


I stand corrected on both fronts, thank you I was pretty sure it wasn't gerunhivers but I couldn't for my life recall the correct name


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 08:27:15


Post by: overkill76


Hi everyone,

Just some feedback after reading Prospero Burns. TBH, the book had several interesting revelations but nothing earth shattering.

Disappointly, most of the book is written from the standpoint of a very human "remembrancer". On the positive side, you get to feel his awe and surprise as he learns more & more about the culture and practices of the wolves. However, a large part of the book is devoted to his memories and experiences as a normal academic which was fairly boring (my point of view).

I finished the book in 2 sittings not because it was very good, but because I wanted to see where I could start reading about the more interesting characters and dialogue. Infuriatingly, Russ and the earth shaking Prospero related events are only found in the last quarter of the book. Those expecting hot SM vs SM action will be left wanting.

In summary:
- slow build-up (first 3/4 of the book)
- several somewhat interesting twists to established lore
- good finish

Overall score: 6.5/10

Additionally, those of us hankering for more Primarch vs Primarch action will not get what we desire.

[spoiler]Quite literally, the description goes like: "The description of the conflict between Primarchs can be found in other accounts. We focus our efforts on a side story that happened at around the same time instead."



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 17:51:28


Post by: reds8n


Todays news and update

Santa works in mysterious ways... Literally just through the door, before Nick’s last day in the office, is the first draft of Blood Reaver. Aaron’s been working like a booze-swilling, coffee-slurping, biscuit-eating hack to get this one finished before old Santy comes a-callin’. Truly the spirit of Christmas is alive and well. With matchsticks holding his eyelids open, Nick finished reading the manuscript a few hours ago and after issuing an emphatic two-thumbs up, we have this choice morsel of giftiness to offer. Enjoy – it’s the season of giving after all...

Bear in mind, these are Aaron’s pure, mad, undiluted thoughts about the Night Lords Legion; untouched by a copy editor or massaged by a proof reader. Insanity lies within.

A CRUCIFIED ANGEL
THE WARRIOR TURNED his helm over in his hands. Gauntleted fingertips stroked along the dents and scratches marring the midnight ceramite. The faceplate was painted white with an artisan’s care, in stylised mimicry of a human skull. One scarlet eye lens was ruined, cobwebbed by cracks. The other stared, dispassionate in deactivation, reflecting the darkening sky above.

He told himself that this wasn’t symbolic. His helm’s ruination didn’t reflect the damage done to his Legion. Even as he quenched the notion, he wondered from whence it came. The war had a proven and profane habit of fanning the embers of melancholy, but still. There were limits.

The warrior took a breath, seeing inhuman creatures dance and bleed behind his closed eyes. He’d been dreaming of the eldar lately, for months before setting foot on this desolate world. Thousands of them: spindly things with gaunt faces and hollow eyes, aboard a burning ship of black sails and false bone.

‘Soul Hunter,’ someone called. His brother’s voice, making the name somewhere between a joke and a title of respect.

The warrior replaced his helm. One eye lens flickered live, bathing the vista in the killing-red of his targeting vision. The other showed angry grey static and the distracting afterimages of visual input lag. It still echoed with a grainy and colourless view of the setting sun a few moments after he’d turned away from it.

‘What?’ the warrior asked.

‘The Angel is breaking.’

The warrior smiled as he drew the gladius sheathed at his shin. Fading sunlight flashed off the blade’s edge as the steel met cold air.

‘Glorious.’





Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 18:09:20


Post by: Manchu


Interesting find there, red. I do hope A D-B will be unleashed on something non-HH and non-NL before the obligatory third Soul Hunter book.

@Kan: All this SoB artwork of a sudden is very heartwarming.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 18:49:56


Post by: reds8n


reds8n wrote:And a nice competition too


New Horus Heresy Book – let the speculation begin.
Here's a look at Neil Roberts’ rough sketch of the cover for Graham McNeill’s forthcoming Horus Heresy title. If you're the first person to guess the title, we'll send you a signed copy of the book well before it's official release date. We might even thrown in a couple of extras. Post your answer by commenting on this post* or on our Facebook page.


http://www.blacklibrary.com/Default.aspx

..hmm.. ideas then folks ? Looks to me like some scouts, some one in some old, old OLD armour.... and an Astropath.



from earlier in the month...

..seems this tome is entitled " The Outcast Dead" .... a title I will be amazed if anyone guessed. Due, apparently, around November next year, so should well be the UK GD special release.

..which is nice.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 20:04:33


Post by: Alpharius


Help me out here... HOW was anyone supposed to guess that?

Were there clues sprinkled about somewhere?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 22:39:54


Post by: RB


Barnes and Noble has Prospero Burns. Picked up mine today.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/23 22:40:32


Post by: Kanluwen


Alpharius wrote:Help me out here... HOW was anyone supposed to guess that?

Were there clues sprinkled about somewhere?

Yes. You missed them because you're old!



Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 13:15:27


Post by: reds8n


Just for the record, so to speak : the artwork we're seeing on the next Nagash book isn't the finished item, it's really little more than a hurried off placeholder piece.

God King is very satisfying as a book, I think MacNeill pulls this off remarkably well.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 13:33:22


Post by: BrookM


Still working my way through God King, being sick isn't exactly helping much, but so far it's great. We all know how it ends, but still, good stuff.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 17:37:41


Post by: Alpharius


Thanks for the reminder about GOD-KING - I totally forgot about that book!

This thread rocks for many, many reasons - that being a big one!

Also, my local Barnes and Noble FINALLY has PROSPERO BURNS in stock, but there is NO way I'm going near it now - I'd be in traffic for about 2 hours + if I so dared...

Monday it is then!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 17:42:15


Post by: BrookM


BL recently tossed up all their releases until January 2012, including two reprints: Faith & Fire and Defenders of Ulthuan. These are to coincide with their sequels being released alongside them.

Chiggity-check them here: http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/coming-soon?filter_action=3&filter_value=2

I am a bit sad that Nagash Immortal isn't out until August next year.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 17:48:42


Post by: reds8n


Alpharius wrote:Thanks for the reminder about GOD-KING - I totally forgot about that book!

This thread rocks for many, many reasons - that being a big one!

Also, my local Barnes and Noble FINALLY has PROSPERO BURNS in stock, but there is NO way I'm going near it now - I'd be in traffic for about 2 hours + if I so dared...

Monday it is then!


Or you could buy it, or indeed any and all of the HH books as an ebook RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND !

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Digital/Horus_Heresy_eBooks


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 20:40:21


Post by: nels1031


I enjoyed God King, was a good read from start to finish. Its got me pumped for Nagash the Immortal, wish it was coming faster!

The interview at the end was pretty neat too. Although I was strangely weary that they are going to continue the Sigmar series... I'd personally like to see them move the Time of Legends books into the War of Vengeance/War of the Beard. Dwarves got some love in Malekith and some solid spots in Sigmars books, but a true showcase of the dwarf empire at war in their prime would be awesome.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/24 23:40:31


Post by: Alpharius


reds8n wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Thanks for the reminder about GOD-KING - I totally forgot about that book!

This thread rocks for many, many reasons - that being a big one!

Also, my local Barnes and Noble FINALLY has PROSPERO BURNS in stock, but there is NO way I'm going near it now - I'd be in traffic for about 2 hours + if I so dared...

Monday it is then!


Or you could buy it, or indeed any and all of the HH books as an ebook RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND !

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Digital/Horus_Heresy_eBooks


I could do that, but then I'd have to wait for it to show up!

And who knows how long that would take!

All of Abnett's stuff goes right to the top of the "Read Now" list too...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/27 16:11:02


Post by: BrookM


Finally done with God King, good show.

Spoiler:
I like how a bit of old fluff has been subtly changed: Back then, Nagash cursed the vampires for abandoning him when he was defeated by Sigmar, forever making them fear his name. Now we have Sigmar himself cursing the vampires, much better really!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/27 23:58:40


Post by: Generalstoner


Just finished Prospero Burns and I have to admit that I never had much love for the Space Wolves but it makes me see them in a different light. While still portraiting the wolves as feral through Leman Russ Abnett shows a more sophisticated side that belongs to them. When compared to the William King novels Abnett just does so much better in his portrayal of the Wolves.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/28 02:19:23


Post by: Just Dave


I've yet to get Prospero Burns (damnit!) but so far I've heard mixed reviews about it, I still look forward to it nonetheless.

At the mo' I'm reading Path of the Warrior (Eldar) and it's pretty good, provides some nice insight on the Eldar and not too much action.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/28 06:22:44


Post by: Temujin


Prospero Burns is an awesome novel, but it messes with your expectations. Just approach it with an open mind and you'll enjoy it.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/28 13:08:41


Post by: Alpharius


Generalstoner wrote: When compared to the William King novels Abnett just does so much better in his portrayal of the Wolves.


No surprise there!

It is on top of my "TO READ...NOW!" list!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/30 18:50:48


Post by: BrookM


So far (166 pages in) I'm finding Prospero Burns rather alienating and weird.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/30 21:33:02


Post by: Lord of battles


I just got my copy of prospero burns, I hope it's good, i've been hearing mixed revues about it


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/30 21:39:45


Post by: BrookM


To me it's more a Descent of Angels (which I love btw!) the way it starts. Definitely a slow burner.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/30 22:16:29


Post by: MajorTom11


Have to agree with BrookM here, I find his forced use of terminology and language with little explanation in the first quarter of the book very annoying and unneccesary. It really made for a confusing and uncomfortable read. Jumping around with little explanation of what is going on with the character, and barely touching on the SW themselves also sucks a bit.

I am over halfway through now, and although it get's better once he finally starts explaining the terminology and what's going on is being explained and expanded a bit more, it is more enjoyable. The thing is, the way he is writing them, they just don't feel very space-wolfy to me.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 00:34:14


Post by: Alpharius


I'm loving it myself - though I'm only 30 pages in.

You guys - relax!

THIS IS ABNETT!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 01:41:23


Post by: Temujin


It's alienating and weird right up until the end and then it all makes sense.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 09:31:31


Post by: BrookM


Alpharius wrote:THIS IS ABNETT!
Meaning he can get away with a lot?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 13:04:24


Post by: reds8n


BrookM wrote: Definitely a slow burner.


Indeed.

As I said I do think the title is somewhat misleading, but overall I think it's a great tome, ther's a fair old bit to discuss, some cool revelaltions -- see Russ' comments at the end !

All the jumping back and forth and cuts is deliberate and, IMO, is a good technique to help convey the atmosphere of the story.

Oh,

New eBooks available today - Necropolis by Dan Abnett, Daemonslayer by William King and Darkblade: Reaper of Souls by Mike Lee & Dan Abnett


They are cracking on with these eh ?


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 13:16:54


Post by: Alpharius


BrookM wrote:
Alpharius wrote:THIS IS ABNETT!
Meaning he can get away with a lot?


More or less!

I have complete faith in Abnett...

And a few others too now. A D-B is on that list now and...

...well, I'm sure there's a few others from the BL stable there too!


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 17:02:48


Post by: Pacific


I wonder if Prospero Burns might get a similar reaction to Legion, a book which upset the applecart somewhat, and not everyone is comfortable with that.

Many people would prefer the 'Legends of the Space Marine' type stuff, which while enjoyable, just trots out the same old stuff and breaks no new boundaries.

Personally, although I think there should be some restraint, I am glad for people like Abnett, and more lately Dembski-Bowden. They are introducing new concepts and imagination, keeping things fresh, into a universe which might well become stagnant if the storytellers of Black Library are shackled too much.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 17:33:45


Post by: Simonbarsinistr


Very true. I actually felt 'a thousand sons' was very slow in the middle, and not quite as good as I'd heard. But when I finished it, I needed more and knew all the reviews were correct.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 17:45:48


Post by: CajunMan


One thing I really enjoyed about Soul Hunter was ADBs tie ins to the HH novels.




Spoiler:
Abaddon still riding in the Vengeful Spirit. Falkus and the Justaerin, the Blood Angels oathing to the moment of battle, etc.


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 18:49:27


Post by: Just Dave


I can't recall any mention of Falkus and the Justerian (Was there?) but otherwise, I agree and would like to see it more often...


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 19:53:06


Post by: CajunMan


'Justaerin', warned Malek. They knew the term. The elite terminator-armored squad of the Sons of Horus 1st Company. p. 151

and the next page

'Falkus,' Talos said slowly, 'I am Talos of the VIII Legion.'


Black library news and rumours (including Horus Heresy stuff)... @ 2010/12/31 20:34:41


Post by: Just Dave


Aaaah, thanks. Clears that one up.