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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
Aye think Aeneades is on the money here, we cannot say that we did not have fair prior warning. I am currently on the fence about the artbook but will make my mind up in the coming week.
Personally my deliveries have been coming every four weeks like clockwork and I am very happy with how it is going for me, as with anything like this your mileage may vary.
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Post by: leopard
from the size so far guessing we will end up with at least four binders in total for this, makes sense with the four sections
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah it was a long and fair warning, most people just didn’t read too much in depth (and to be fair, in here we had discussed it quite a bit about what we thought would be on them early in the thread).
I’m unsure if I’ll take it yet, but I think it will probably be good value.
(I believe these won’t be purchasable as individual issues? For subscribers only? You with other publications from them can let me know  )
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Post by: Aeneades
They haven't made the 2000AD special issues available on the website so assume they wont for this one either.
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Post by: Dr. Mills
Well, I'll probably get the art book - I'm a sucker for a nice hardback full of cool art and Christmas money will pay for it...
Also, with the new double sided play mat, the side with extra details shows positions for the placement of three new terrain sets - STC Ryza pattern ruins, Thermic Plasma Conduits and Battlefield accessories.
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
Dr. Mills wrote:
Also, with the new double sided play mat, the side with extra details shows positions for the placement of three new terrain sets - STC Ryza pattern ruins, Thermic Plasma Conduits and Battlefield accessories.
Aye, the inside rear cover of issue 18 declares "from issue 21 the battle goes planetside Korvon II, new battle may, new terrain, new missions" and shows all of those terrain pieces physically on the mat. We know the battlefield accessories are coming in issue 23 so we can assume that the other terrain will come shortly after that.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Just unrolled the subscriber poster.
‘Appen there’s a Chapter of Primaris that’s been removed from records.
Wiped out, or gone to the bad?
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Post by: Danny76
Does it say why removed? I didn’t think wiped out ones normally are..
So perhaps something untoward..
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Nope. Just ‘records expunged’...
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
could be ones using pre heresy traitor gene seed that Caul made but wasn't allowed to use
or even (gasp) females? (they're going to show up someday)
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Post by: leopard
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Just unrolled the subscriber poster.
‘Appen there’s a Chapter of Primaris that’s been removed from records.
Wiped out, or gone to the bad?
Removed are are the records still in the post? you know how it goes this time of year?
perhaps they were left 'next door' with that nice Mr Khorne who was only to happy to sign for them?
wittering aside it would have made more sense to note a chapter as being 'lost' in the warp, with no records as to livery etc as they were on their way to found a new outpost or something - point obviously being whatever you paint can be one of these, a bit like the original lost two.
personally think "lost in the post" would be a nice hat tip to the first edition background as well
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Post by: Flying_Fish
Well my missing issue and the painting handle turned up with my next batch of 4 issues... Would have been nice if they'd responded to my emails...
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:could be ones using pre heresy traitor gene seed that Caul made but wasn't allowed to use
or even (gasp) females? (they're going to show up someday)
Well......it does mention ‘brotherhood of a thousand’ and....’sons of the Phoenix’.
Latter has, shall we say recognisable heraldry?
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Post by: leopard
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:could be ones using pre heresy traitor gene seed that Caul made but wasn't allowed to use
or even (gasp) females? (they're going to show up someday)
Well......it does mention ‘brotherhood of a thousand’ and....’sons of the Phoenix’.
Latter has, shall we say recognisable heraldry?
*Cue scary music*
could be worse, they could be arriving by drone Automatically Appended Next Post: Flying_Fish wrote:Well my missing issue and the painting handle turned up with my next batch of 4 issues... Would have been nice if they'd responded to my emails...
Wonder if the scale of this has taken them by surprise, or if as many companies they actually are that inept.
given GW for all their many faults have and pretty much always have had excellent customer its something it may be worth writing to GW about, as constructive criticism of something putting a tarnish on something otherwise very well done
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Post by: alphaecho
As a counter point and not as a denial that Hachette have let some down, my subscriber deliveries have arrived like clockwork with no problems.
WhenI ordered an additional Calsius issue, I received a copy of Issue 06 in error. I raised a query Via PayPal and received the correct issue within three days by signed for post.
Long may that continue.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
They do seem to be a bit patchy in terms of service.
I’ve not had a problem myself, but there’s enough peeps getting it late that they need to tidy it up a bit.
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Post by: Aeneades
The issues are received based upon when you signed up, so if someone signs up a month after launch and starts with issue 1 then they will always be a month behind, I think this is what has caused a lot of the confusion and complaints from some people but the only other option would be to charge them for the back issues upfront which not go down well.
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Post by: Flying_Fish
Aeneades wrote:The issues are received based upon when you signed up, so if someone signs up a month after launch and starts with issue 1 then they will always be a month behind, I think this is what has caused a lot of the confusion and complaints from some people but the only other option would be to charge them for the back issues upfront which not go down well.
A good theory, except I signed up last March when this was originally going to happen, and re-confirmed in the Summer before the 1st issue was released...
I would suggest they are overloaded and don't have much in the way of organisational skills, their comms are particularly bad. However, if they are going to send me lots of plastic crack at a huge discount I'm not going to get too grumpy...
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Post by: Danny76
For some people it’s that. For others they just do them in an order, some later than others I suppose.
I’m guessing everyone still gets them in 4 week/monthly roughly deliveries? Just some get them and spoil the surprise for others who get it later (for those that don’t want to know).
-or are some people getting one on time, and then others weeks after the next should, like 6 week gaps between or something..? Automatically Appended Next Post: It didn’t flow at first since we weren’t getting terrain, but for anyone subscribing since the start..
It is now one Space Marine, one Death Guard, one Terrain, and one paint/brush set per delivery set of four.
(11-14, 15-18, 19-22 so far fit the pattern, which I thought it would have done so makes sense)
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Post by: Casualty
Probably old news by now, but I've just noticed there's artwork in issue 8 that appears to depict a Khornate Primaris marine.
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Post by: GMSchofield
Just looked, and I can't see a Khornate primaris in issue 8. There is a snippet of this artwork in there, but I'm pretty sure they're just regular chaos marines.
Link to artwork on WH40K Wikia
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Post by: Fictional
leopard wrote:from the size so far guessing we will end up with at least four binders in total for this, makes sense with the four sections
I'd expect the 1 binder we have and then the option to buy more, at extra cost, some time later.
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Post by: Casualty
I could be quite wrong, but I could bet a pint or two that that this chappy here represents a standardised Chaos Primaris equivalent. His proportions, imho, are sleeker than the more standard CSMs, like the more familiar, chunkier fellas around him, and the details of his visor (the brow, the muzzle vents, the tubing, the "ears") correspond more closely to the Primaris visors than anything else, with a cleft to distinguish it from their vanilla cousins.
Could be wrong, like I say, but we'll see.
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Post by: Danny76
Fictional wrote:leopard wrote:from the size so far guessing we will end up with at least four binders in total for this, makes sense with the four sections
I'd expect the 1 binder we have and then the option to buy more, at extra cost, some time later.
You will get three more binders, each at £8ish.
You will automatically get these, but like the special issues, may choose to opt out if you’d like.
I would imagine the first of these will be coming just after 20 issues. Automatically Appended Next Post: Here you go;
• As a subscriber, you will automatically receive binders as they become available at £7.99 (€9.99) each. You will also receive special issues, though you will have the option to opt out of these beforehand Automatically Appended Next Post: Casualty wrote:
I could be quite wrong, but I could bet a pint or two that that this chappy here represents a standardised Chaos Primaris equivalent. His proportions, imho, are sleeker than the more standard CSMs, like the more familiar, chunkier fellas around him, and the details of his visor (the brow, the muzzle vents, the tubing, the "ears") correspond more closely to the Primaris visors than anything else, with a cleft to distinguish it from their vanilla cousins.
Could be wrong, like I say, but we'll see.
I’d say no more than Death Guard and Thousand Sons.
Artwork and fluff wise, Chaos Marines are a bit more depicted in line anyway. (If we went by model for artwork it’d be terrible  )
So the new models will be bigger yeah, but I don’t think it’ll be a new Primaris type thing, rather just a bit of scale creep.
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Post by: laam999
This may be an odd question, do we have a colour that matches the sprues for the scenery plastic colour?
I'm thinking of just spraying them all in mat varnish, wash and dry brush and a few details added to give it a very quick paint scheme. If I can get a colour to base coat other, none conquest, scenery I can have them all start with the same base and they'll match a little better.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
It's Rhinox Hide, isn't it?
I would think that spraying them a base colour rather than matte varnish to begin with would be no more effort and look better (your entire scenery collection won't be brown, for one thing  ).
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Post by: Kanluwen
It's a bit darker than Rhinox Hide, assuming the scenery is the same color as what I got with the Scions KT set.
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Post by: Danny76
AndrewGPaul wrote:It's Rhinox Hide, isn't it?
I would think that spraying them a base colour rather than matte varnish to begin with would be no more effort and look better (your entire scenery collection won't be brown, for one thing  ).
Indeed, and then help further layers adhere better too.
I’d have to check but I didn’t think it was Rhinox
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Post by: Irbis
Casualty wrote:
I could be quite wrong, but I could bet a pint or two that that this chappy here represents a standardised Chaos Primaris equivalent. His proportions, imho, are sleeker than the more standard CSMs, like the more familiar, chunkier fellas around him, and the details of his visor (the brow, the muzzle vents, the tubing, the "ears") correspond more closely to the Primaris visors than anything else, with a cleft to distinguish it from their vanilla cousins.
Could be wrong, like I say, but we'll see.
He has old style backpack, no gorget, standard 'split' style Mk 4 helmet, grill in breastplate like CSM kit, CSM style pads, sorry, just don't see it...
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Post by: leopard
Primed mine using Valijio red oxide primer and while not a perfect match it was pretty damned close, works ok for chipping effects as a base as well, dead easy to apply by airbrush.
its more brown than rattle can red oxide primers
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Post by: timmythetool
Does anyone know what will be in issues 20+?
Am wondering when the next interceptors will be.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I think that's as far was we know at present
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Post by: leopard
Seems to be settling down nicely then to one for each side, one for paint and one for terrain per four issues.
happy enough with that, have needed some terrain for a while
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah I posted a page back the statistics, I think it’s been in that regular patternfor the last 3 deliveries and the next known one too.
So I think that will be the normal from now on.
Only thing is, when bigger kits come, presumably over two weeks or three for repulsor, how will it work.
My guess would be miss out the paint issue in that months set.
Or maybe the terrain even.
But always one thing for each side per delivery.
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Post by: leopard
wondering if when you get the bigger stuff it will be a focused four issues around that kit, there are not as I see it that many big kits here, expect you get that kit over three or four issues as required, the 'spare' issue being paints or terrain
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Post by: Danny76
I think it’s three issues for the Repulsor, and two for the PBC. If the sprues are anything to go by..
I’d imagine three Repulsor with one Death Guard sprue in a month.
Then two PBC, one Primaris, and a fourth terrain sprue (or paints). Nicely fills out another months worth there.
That way it still follows the two armies slowly building up evenly-ish
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Post by: rtb02
Only issue is with the repulsor and pbc is that if you're buying from a shop you can't do anything until the next bit is released.
Fair to assume they'll stop shipping to stores by that stage?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Unlikely, they seem to be doing well and aren't going to miss selling a bunch
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
No reason that a multiple sprue kit cannot be sold instore , many partworks already are large multipart kits. They’ll do an issue or two with no instructions but more hobby/fluff then balance it with an issue with more instructions/painting and no fluff.
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Post by: leopard
Well most part works involve a whole load of issues you can't do a lot with until something else arrives so not seeing a huge issue.
also expect for the Rhino for example the two big frames to be two issues, the smaller details one included with one of the other issues.
I don't think there are all that many multi frame kits here so its not a huge issue, you just have a couple of issues focussing more on background, scenarios etc or you get a paint or two and the magazines focus on adding that paint to existing kits.
Not fussed either way really, liking how this is building up.
Marines here adding nicely to the starter set lot I already had, the Death Guard are a new army for me here (had some Khorne & tzeetch already but no nurgle)
not familiar with the PBC and repulsive but IIRC if the rhino gives you the right frame first you can build the two side modules with one frame, the second issue is then the bodywork to join them
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Post by: Danny76
rtb02 wrote:Only issue is with the repulsor and pbc is that if you're buying from a shop you can't do anything until the next bit is released.
Fair to assume they'll stop shipping to stores by that stage?
It’s no issue, this is designed for subscribers, so as long as we get it fully workable, then it’s fine.
The buying from a shop is just the bonus you can get your issues by.
But as mentioned that won’t stop really as in effect to Hachette it’s ‘no skin off their nose’ if those customers have to wait for bits.
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Post by: Tavis75
I would assume with most of the kits that you would be able to build a fair amount of the model with just a single sprue, so the first issue would still have building instructions (maybe even painting if it's a model with interior detail), rather than just saving up all the sprues and putting all the building instructions in one issue.
As has been mentioned though, it's not unusual for part works to supply parts of a kit that aren't used for ages, especially as they like to put iconic parts in the first few issues regardless of whether that's sensible from a building perspective i.e. currently building the Back to the Future Delorean, the rear lights and bumper came in issue 1, but you don't actually fit them to the model till somewhere around issue 90!
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Post by: phillv85
They're easing people into the "keep these parts safe" model now. They sent the flight stands for the Inceptors with the issue that got a single Inceptor and told you to keep the rest safe. It surely won't be long until they decide to do it with either parts of sprues (such as the DI Death Guard models where the back of 2 of the models come with the Poxwalkers sprue), or whole sprues with vehicles etc.
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Post by: timmythetool
Are they the same Reiver models that were in issue 3?
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Post by: Aeneades
Yep. Duplicate of the issue 3 models.
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Post by: Danny76
Last of the duplicates for Primaris.
(Well technically Dark Imperium has the same sprue twice but that’s the same when you buy the box).
Death Guard, maybe just the 6 Pox left duplicated? Or no?
(Trickier here, as you get the cultist 5 twice, and again DI has the Pox repeated anyway).
But getting there..
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Post by: Casualty
I got issue 2 again when I first subscribed, and Hachette seem to have accidentally sent me two issue 9s, so I'm already up to my bloody ears in generic monopose DGs.
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Post by: alphaecho
Casualty wrote:I got issue 2 again when I first subscribed, and Hachette seem to have accidentally sent me two issue 9s, so I'm already up to my bloody ears in generic monopose DGs.
Bits sellers for arm and head swaps, green stuff to cover up chest teeth and alternate DG paint schemes have been my good friends over the multiple easy build miniatures.
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Post by: Casualty
Yeah, the poxwalkers I'm just going to mix up the colours a little, I can't really be bothered working too hard on those and it feels like there's a million of them. One good thing I will say about them is that you can just mix up the garment colours and maybe emphasise the fleshy bits differently, and they'll both look distinct from each other at a glance and still make sense as a group.
I've gotten more hands-on with distinguishing the marines alright. The DG marines are also relatively forgiving for lazy chops and changes, thanks to all their spines, spikes, appendages and cracking plates.
One thing I've really come to appreciate as I churn these things out is how clever the mini design has gotten over the years at hiding parts' edges in flab folds, or seamlines in clothing/armour plates. Cunning stuff.
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Post by: Danny76
I already had a set of three. Then got the mag issues.
With the Plague Marine Kit, you can vary it nicely.
(Lack of quality photos, as I quickly took them with a flash, it’s so dark here.
But you get there idea)..
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Was much trimming needed?
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Post by: Danny76
Little to none.
I’ve got lots of photos on my PC somewhere for a project log.
I had the shots of where I cut away on them.
The Blight Launcher Guy was the only one. Needed cutting back at gorget and side. To clip the new torso on.
I think the other ones I just green stuffed gaps Automatically Appended Next Post: Also. I heavily converted the three characters from DI (one to a terminator, one to a plague marine champion, and one just a booster guy).
So I’ll post a link to said blog once I get it started.
That way anyone getting Conquest who already has DI can get some ideas.
Pretty much everything was re used in other bits (in fact here you can see the Bell backpack from the that Blightbringer or whoever has it. It is too standout noticeable to use twice exactly same)..
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Post by: NAVARRO
I will do that too with the left overs of the multipart you can spice up the easybuild ones.
Good job there.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I've got a few conversions of the easy build ones in my Deathguard blog too if anybody wants some more inspiration
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/734222.page
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Post by: Delirious
If anyone does not need the magazines from editions 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 I am interested in acquiring them please,
Thanks Wayne
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
Forbidden Plabet have future issues listed up to #30....but learned from previous time and have not included any pictures of content.
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Post by: MTCool
Has anyone else still not received their subscription delivery for issues 15, 16, 17 and 18?
it's showing on the hachette site that it was added to my account on the 28th of December. Maybe it's because I have the premium subscription and don't seem to see any posts or videos of anyone receiving the premium content yet.
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Post by: Taaloc
MTCool wrote:Has anyone else still not received their subscription delivery for issues 15, 16, 17 and 18?
it's showing on the hachette site that it was added to my account on the 28th of December. Maybe it's because I have the premium subscription and don't seem to see any posts or videos of anyone receiving the premium content yet.
I haven't. Mine have always turned up so far halfway through the month after most other people seem to, so no expecting anything fror up to another week yet
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
@MTCool:
As a rule my deliveries have turned up around 9/10 days after they have been added into the account, and I am based in the UK. So given you are overseas yours should probably be turning up any day soon? Best of luck.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
I've found it's generally around the 14th it gets to me. Don't forget they will have been closed for part on Xmas and new year.
Looks like the money gets collected on the last Friday of a monthYou then have time to sort any errors before dispatch
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Post by: lare2
Live in the UK. There appears absolutely no rhyme or reason to when it arrives for me. They come but always incredibly late in comparison to what I see available in my local asda. Sometimes they come in bulk and other times individually.
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Post by: leopard
MTCool wrote:Has anyone else still not received their subscription delivery for issues 15, 16, 17 and 18?
it's showing on the hachette site that it was added to my account on the 28th of December. Maybe it's because I have the premium subscription and don't seem to see any posts or videos of anyone receiving the premium content yet.
Nothing here as yet, last lot arrived about the 9th, interestingly enough so did the lot before, and the one before that...
interesting definition of "every four weeks" really so far, gradually getting further and further behind
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Post by: MTCool
ListenToMeWarriors wrote:@MTCool:
As a rule my deliveries have turned up around 9/10 days after they have been added into the account, and I am based in the UK. So given you are overseas yours should probably be turning up any day soon? Best of luck.
Sorry, i'm also in the UK (Wales) just newer at posting and hadn't setup my profile fully so oddly defaulted to Bulgaria.
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Post by: phillv85
Mine seem to arrive a day or two after the first people on here start saying their box has come.It's been consistent since the start for that.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I had this with Dredd and 2000AD.
My next Conquest set should include the art book (Which I'm quite looking forward to). And those extras have previously delayed shipments on the other two collections.
Example? 2000AD, I was two weeks ahead when I got my subscription (as we are with Conquest now. Well, I am). Then they did the Covers Book, and I got nowt for a month. End result? I'm now two weeks behind retail on my sub.
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
It is odd how they send it out, currently with every four issue delivery I am behind retail for the first two and when it gets delivered I am ahead two. So on my next delivery, issues 19-22 I will get it the weekend between the retail release of issues 20-21. That is how it is currently working for me. I need to get my act together and get issues 15-18 painted before my next delivery and for my P and M blog.
@Mad Doc Grotsnik: I am looking forward to the artbook too, I assume there will be no new art in there but I hope it is a nice package overall.
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Post by: leopard
most recent DD taken here but still no sign of the magazines
phone them, got through! (this is progress, line quality terrible), gave account details etc, put on hold, disconnected...
phoned back, still rubbish line, gave details.. put on hold... then someone else answered as if I had just been put back in the call queue...
they say "give it a week", posted 28th December and apparently "in transit", possibly a red painted one?
interesting mix of dates for something thats "four weekly"
31st August
28th September (pretty much on the nose)
26th October (again pretty much spot on)
30th November (um... thats not +28 days guys)
28th December (well its 28 from the previous one but still wrong)
pretty much all of them have arrives 8th - 10th of the month
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Post by: Danny76
I think they are the dates that they get processed and payment taken rather than posted.
It doesn’t say anywhere that’s the postage date, just what everything is in that one delivery.
So it could be to do with banks and processing times and a few other things that throw it off a bit.
(That’s even if you spoke to someone on the phone and they mentioned it being delivery day. As the people in the office seem not to know..)
Just as to why those dates vary yet your delivery never has, until now..
Hopefully you get it soon, though I suppose it’s only one day shy of your regular arrival.
Mine varied up to 5 or so days usually.
Is this your 15-18 one?
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Post by: leopard
15-18 yes
know a few people who had done partworks, they all say they are the most disorganised companies imaginable
just curious how "every 28 days" (i.e. 13 a year) turns into "monthly" and slowly getting further and further behind
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
My local stores (WH Smiths and a couple in independants) all got fewer of issue 19 than they ordered/expected (annoying as I wanted a second copy for conversions so I've had to try Forbidden Planet as the Hachette were sold out as soon as issue 19 went live... well by 9am anyway) so I wonder if GW hasn't supplied as many sprues as they were meant to (at the expected date anyway given that Christmas probably slowed everything down), that could explain why things are slower than normal this month
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Post by: deano2099
It doesn't seem that anyone with Premium has got their 15-18 yet. Is anyone with a regular sub still waiting on that delivery? If not then it's pretty clear what the hold-up is.
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Post by: Aeneades
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:My local stores ( WH Smiths and a couple in independants) all got fewer of issue 19 than they ordered/expected
(annoying as I wanted a second copy for conversions so I've had to try Forbidden Planet as the Hachette were sold out as soon as issue 19 went live... well by 9am anyway)
so I wonder if GW hasn't supplied as many sprues as they were meant to (at the expected date anyway given that Christmas probably slowed everything down), that could explain why things are slower than normal this month
There was only one copy in my local WH Smiths compared to the usual 3 although I was a day late in popping down so they may have already sold one or two copies. I wish I had picked up the spare for conversion purposes as I have two Terminator sets to steal bits from bit when I went down again the next day the copy had gone.
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Post by: DarkStarSabre
deano2099 wrote:It doesn't seem that anyone with Premium has got their 15-18 yet. Is anyone with a regular sub still waiting on that delivery? If not then it's pretty clear what the hold-up is.
Still haven't got mine. Which is either a good or bad thing, who the feth even knows anymore.
Have cancelled the sub. Have called and written and emailed. They keep sending it.
At this point I feel like I may as well just keep them. Then they send the letters say - we'll send no more til you pay X.
And then they keep sending it.
I don't even know anymore.
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Post by: MTCool
My issues 15-18 turned up today but no premium gift as listed on my subscription.
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Post by: deano2099
Same for me
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Post by: Danny76
I believe some people that received them said though it had same date on invoice, that it came separately and later
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Post by: Danny76
If all four are just this, then I’m not sure people will be happy..
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Post by: Dr Coconut
deano2099 wrote:Is anyone with a regular sub still waiting on that delivery? If not then it's pretty clear what the hold-up is.
Got mine today. That fits in with my expectation of about 14 days after money collected.
Danny76 wrote:If all four are just this, then I’m not sure people will be happy..
Is that all premium subs get on top of the regular stuff? Glad I didn't go premium then.
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Post by: Danny76
It is indeed.
Or for the first one anyway.
Reading it, the next three are just more cards (for units not gotten yet), boards (to make 4 boards total), and I guess even more dice..
That is in effect £30 of stuff per box, but I wouldn’t pay that for just that stuff.
I do hope more comes in the others to make it better value, for those that did premium.
(Stick a Mortarion in there for the last one for those who kept with it. That kind of thing..)
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
My 2000AD issues are late in coming as well.
Could be a festive backlog?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I managed to try another newsagent (not had any issue 19) and a big WH Smiths (no copies of 19, they didn't think they've had many if any in as they said they always send stuff back)
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Post by: BlackKnight
Is it a double sided board? Can someone take a photo please.
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Post by: Orlanth
Premium contents were clearly advertised from the get go, at least for the first delivery. I orginally backed Premium then downgraded after analysing cost vs return.
Premium is for whales and doesnt offer much. The real benefit is just the subscription gifts themselves, which are fairly substantial. Tool, decent paint brushes, etc, all good stuff. This has a reasonable value and doesnt add extra costs, just the sub.
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
No issue with 19 around here, newsagent I get mine from had extras on the shelf and another had them in his window. Not been to Smiths this week but if small cash only stores have them then I'd be surprised if big stores who want them cannot get them. Maybe it's down to stores who place larger orders as there are about 10 people have it every week where I get mine from.
The Premium does look poor - I think it should have included the art book or at least chuck people in extra scenery sprue or something. If GW released that it'd not go down well.
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Post by: Dr. Mills
A lot of people on the FB Conquest group are only just receiving issues 15-18 due to Christmas. I was lucky to receive mine on December 23rd but I can understand why others are getting them late.
As for the new issue being scarce, I don't know. My newsagent has two in the window, which means they have sold one, but after that I don't know.
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Post by: Danny76
Orlanth wrote:Premium contents were clearly advertised from the get go, at least for the first delivery. I orginally backed Premium then downgraded after analysing cost vs return.
Premium is for whales and doesnt offer much. The real benefit is just the subscription gifts themselves, which are fairly substantial. Tool, decent paint brushes, etc, all good stuff. This has a reasonable value and doesnt add extra costs, just the sub.
I’d say it wasn’t ‘clearly advertised’ in that they showed that stock photo but didn’t say much more verbally what was coming, but yeah certainly as you say whether all four would just be the same etc.. It is there that I think people expected / wanted more from the premium costs they are paying for it compared to normal.
I think there will still be quite a bit of complaining in the coming days/weeks about it. (Unfounded as to me it was clear it wasn’t worth it - for me anyway - though clarity varies by person I suppose..)
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
I feel that I missed a bullet with the "premium" content. That extra £1.50 an issue, so £120 over the course of the entire subscription, seems like a swizz thus far. If the remaining three drops are just more data cards, dice and play board then that is very poor value. The board looks like a pretty small size as well.
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Post by: Danny76
It looks like 1x1.
Which means only 2x2 at the end.
Originally I thought they were gonna be 2x2’s to give you an ok starting board..
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Post by: leopard
Glad I never bothered with premium at this rate.
as for clearly advertised, check out the earlier pages of this thread where people are asking whats in premium, talking to the publishers, who don't appear to know either.
I do hope those cards find there way to the main game, with all the options etc and the sodding point values (fat chance of that), and the way things go they will have an errata all of their own
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Post by: The Real McBain
Hi,
I subscribed on 1st January and have not received any communication.
I've checked my account and while I have a subscription, it show's no other details, such as post or payments.
Is this normal after 2 weeks not to receive your first subscription?
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Post by: Dr Coconut
The Real McBain wrote:Hi,
I subscribed on 1st January and have not received any communication.
I've checked my account and while I have a subscription, it show's no other details, such as post or payments.
Is this normal after 2 weeks not to receive your first subscription?
Perfectly normal. Expect it to be 4 weeks from subscribing to receiving anything. What is your first issue number? If it's out of phase with the majority, you may receive a smaller or larger delivery to bring you inline.
If my calculations are correct, my (and the majority's) next payment will be taken on 25th Jan and delivered around 8th Feb. I would not be surprised if your payment is taken then.
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Post by: The Real McBain
Dr Coconut wrote:
Perfectly normal. Expect it to be 4 weeks from subscribing to receiving anything. What is your first issue number? If it's out of phase with the majority, you may receive a smaller or larger delivery to bring you inline.
If my calculations are correct, my (and the majority's) next payment will be taken on 25th Jan and delivered around 8th Feb. I would not be surprised if your payment is taken then.
Thanks for your reply.
Good to know, I was beginning to worry something was wrong!
I'm starting with Issue 1 but I was kind of under the impression that I would be continuously be about 20 issues behind?
I don't mind anyway, I don't play the game, I like the lore and novels and wanted to try my hand at the hobbying side of things
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Post by: Gerinako
Dr Coconut wrote:The Real McBain wrote:Hi,
I subscribed on 1st January and have not received any communication.
I've checked my account and while I have a subscription, it show's no other details, such as post or payments.
Is this normal after 2 weeks not to receive your first subscription?
Perfectly normal. Expect it to be 4 weeks from subscribing to receiving anything. What is your first issue number? If it's out of phase with the majority, you may receive a smaller or larger delivery to bring you inline.
If my calculations are correct, my (and the majority's) next payment will be taken on 25th Jan and delivered around 8th Feb. I would not be surprised if your payment is taken then.
I've only just received issues 3 through to 6.
I don't think they play catch up with subscriptions
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah at no point will you catch up.
That would mean they’d be making you pay more a month at points which is something they won’t do.
Only way to catch up is to start the sub at the issues they’re up to and buying all prior ones (of which many are out of stock..)
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Post by: Casualty
I back-ordered an exta issue #1 when it was in stock a while ago, and the paintbrush with it was of notably better quality than the first one I'd gotten.
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Post by: leopard
Mine arrive today...
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Post by: Floyd73
Posted in the FB group...
3
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Post by: JoeRugby
Very interested in the rhino issue if it’s £7.99
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Post by: Aeneades
It’s hard to make out the full description of issue 28 but I suspect the top bullet point is “Complete your rhino”. It is a 4 sprue model so would make more sense to have 2 per week for 2 weeks.
You can but the Chaos Rhino for about £18-19 through third party stores so charging £16 through the magazine feels about right.
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Post by: timmythetool
How many issues are the dreadnought?
The easy to build model is 3 sprues so will it be 3 issues?
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Post by: Aeneades
No-one has seen the cover to issue 24 yet but I suspect that is Build your Dreadnaught to go with issue 25s Paint your Dreadnaught with the sprues split over those two issues.
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Post by: BlackKnight
It says "Build" on 27 so it makes it sound like you get the whole thing in one go.
Same with 25 it says paint, could we get it all on 24?
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Post by: Aeneades
I think that just means it would have the Building guide for the whole Rhino / Dread even if they dont have all the pieces yet as they will be quite lengthy instructions, with the full (also lengthy) painting guide coming in the next issue. I just can’t see them putting 4 sprues in one issue and nothing at all in the next when they could easily split them 2 per issue.
I would love to be wrong as a couple extra £8 chaos rhinos would be great, I just can’t see it happening.
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Post by: Danny76
It is apparently two parts for the rhino.
Two sprues in each.
From A Hachette employee source.
By that I would assume the Dread is too.. But we need 24, (or the back of 22/23..)
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Post by: Tavis75
Yep, I reckon the Rhino sprues will be split over the build\paint issues, else it makes issue 27 far too good value and issue 28 seem like a rip off. Obviously all evens out for subscribers, but with people buying the mag individually I would imagine they'd sell an awful lot of 27's and hardly any 28's! Same for the dreadnought.
Also, for subscribers on the standard schedule you will end up getting the complete kits in a single delivery.
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Post by: IanVanCheese
I might grab the Rhino issues, it's not crazy savings but still decent. The redemptor would only tempt me if it was the proper kit.
Still waiting on that Repulsor. Even split into three issues, that is gonna be tasty savings.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Gerinako wrote: Dr Coconut wrote:The Real McBain wrote:Hi,
I subscribed on 1st January and have not received any communication.
I've checked my account and while I have a subscription, it show's no other details, such as post or payments.
Is this normal after 2 weeks not to receive your first subscription?
Perfectly normal. Expect it to be 4 weeks from subscribing to receiving anything. What is your first issue number? If it's out of phase with the majority, you may receive a smaller or larger delivery to bring you inline.
If my calculations are correct, my (and the majority's) next payment will be taken on 25th Jan and delivered around 8th Feb. I would not be surprised if your payment is taken then.
I've only just received issues 3 through to 6.
I don't think they play catch up with subscriptions
Danny76 wrote:Yeah at no point will you catch up.
That would mean they’d be making you pay more a month at points which is something they won’t do.
Only way to catch up is to start the sub at the issues they’re up to and buying all prior ones (of which many are out of stock..)
By inline with other I meant issues posted together. 1-2,3-6,7-10,11-14,15-18,19-22....... Is anyone out of phase with these? I started the sub on issue 4 and had 3 issues in my first delivery (4-6)
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Post by: Spiritu
The publisher responsible for Conquest here in Spain (Salvat) has announced the issues (in order) of almost the entire collection:
Check it out, is in spanish, but you won't have any problems to understand: https://www.lavozdehorus.com/ya-a-la-venta-el-coleccionable-warhammer-40-000-conquest/
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Post by: Huginn
What issue are we up to in the shops, kinda lost track over xmas?
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Post by: Danny76
Ah yeah. I think they’d get you in line to the right sets of 4. As that’s necessary for some deliveries
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Post by: laam999
Ace link, thanks.
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Post by: Danny76
Repulsor tank thing is 4 issues, 2 before the end according to that..
Before the end of the list there that is.
How much off of the complete 80 is that, anyone had a count yet?
I, gonna delve into it in detail when I get home.
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
@Spiritu: Exceptional link, thank you. Great to have it all laid out in black and white like that.
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Post by: Danny76
Also I love how the Lord Of Contagion is named.
Señor del Contagio Automatically Appended Next Post: The issue maths is wrong (well unless the Drone, 4 marine and Lord is actually two issues maybe..)
When you count down in 4’s and get to the PBC. You’re at three issues for the month. So the 4th would be that, but it’s a 2 model kit..
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Post by: Spiritu
I correct myself, it seems that it is the ENTIRE collection: 80 issues.
You wellcome!
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Post by: The Real McBain
Which FB group is this please?
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Post by: leopard
nice to finally see what the list of paints is as well.
not surprised to see the repulsive being right at the end either, ditto the big bit of terrain
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Post by: Danny76
Danny76 wrote:Also I love how the Lord Of Contagion is named.
Señor del Contagio
Automatically Appended Next Post:
The issue maths is wrong (well unless the Drone, 4 marine and Lord is actually two issues maybe..)
When you count down in 4’s and get to the PBC. You’re at three issues for the month. So the 4th would be that, but it’s a 2 model kit..
Actually, it is all correct, missed one line..
I’m now writing it all out, some good groups for the months..
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Post by: Danny76
Also some not as good months I suppose.
The list is two short from 80 issues...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Excuse the handwriting, it was only for my reference really.
But thought I’d post in case anyone wants a look..
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Update: forget the photos..
19. lord Felthius & Tainted Cohort
20. Armoured Container #3
21. 3x Reivers
22. Paint: Astrogranite
23. Battlefield Accessories
24. Redemptor, part 1
25. Redemptor, part 2
26. Paint: Black & Fleshshade
27. Chaos rhino, part 1
28. Chaos rhino, part 2
29. primaris, captain, intercessor sergeant, inceptor sergeant & hellblaster sergeant
30. Ryza Ruins #1
31. Primaris apothecary
32. plasma conduits
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines
34. paint: gehenna’s gold & dawnstone
35. primaris chaplin
36. paint: leadbelcher, deathguard green, macragge blue
37. Ryza Ruins #2
38. plague surgeon & gaming mat
39. primaris captain
40. paint: steel legion drab, cadian fleshtone & mephiston red
41. Plague crawler, part 1
42. plague crawler, part 2
43. plasma regulators (2)
44. paint: thousand sons blue & necron compund
45. 5x marine scouts
46. blightbringer, plague caster & plague marine
47. land speeder
48. 2x marine bikes
49. paint: black, ustabti bone & calgar blue
50. 10x cultists
51. haemotrope reactor
52. paint: martian ironcrust
53. marine bike
54. typhus
55. alcomite stack
56. 8 primaris, 5x intercessors, 2x Lt, 1x ancient with banner
57. paint: temple guard blue & baneblade brown
58. attack bike & gaming mat
59. 5x primaris, 2 intercessor, 2 hellblaster & 1x inceptor
60.10x poxwalkers & 1x plague marine
61. sector mechanicus tractor
62. sector mechanicus crane
63. 10x poxwalker & 1 plague marine
64. paint: runefang steel, screamer pink & nihiakh oxide
65. 2x marine characters (terminator & Mk 4)
66. plague marine with banner
67. 5x marine scouts with sniper rifles
68. haemotrope reactors
69. plague marine chamption
70. paint: athonian camoshade & ogryn camo
71. objective markers
72, 2x chaos spawn
73. paint: runefang steel & celestra grey
74. tallyman
75 - 78: Repulsor
79 - 80: galvanic magnavent
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Post by: leopard
Drafted that out and i get 82 issues...
19. lord Felthius & Tainted Cohort
20. Armoured Container #3
21. 3x Reivers
22. Paint: Astrogranite
23. Battlefield Accessories
24. Redemptor, part 1
25. Redemptor, part 2
26. Paint: Black & Fleshshade
27. Chaos rhino, part 1
28. Chaos rhino, part 2
29. primaris, captain, intercessor sergeant, inceptor sergeant & hellblaster sergeant
30. Ryza Ruins #1
31. Primaris apothecary
32. plasma conduits
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines
34. paint: gehenna’s gold & dawnstone
35. primaris chaplin
36. paint: leadbelcher, deathguard green, macragge blue
37. Ryza Ruins #2
38. plague surgeon & gaming mat
40. primaris captain
41. paint: steel legion drab, cadian fleshtone & mephiston red
42. Plague crawler, part 1
43. plague crawler, part 2
44. plasma regulators (2)
45. paint: thousand sons blue & necron compund
46. 5x marine scouts
47. blightbringer, plague caster & plague marine
48. land speeder
49. 2x marine bikes
50. paint: black, ustabti bone & calgar blue
51. 10x cultists
52. haemotrope reactor
53. paint: martian ironcrust
54. marine bike
55. typhus
56. alcomite stack
57. 8 primaris, 5x intercessors, 2x Lt, 1x ancient with banner
58. paint: temple guard blue & baneblade brown
59. attack bike & gaming mat
60. 5x primaris, 2 intercessor, 2 hellblaster & 1x inceptor
61.10x poxwalkers & 1x plague marine
62. sector mechanicus tractor
63. sector mechanicus crane
64. 10x poxwalker & 1 plague marine
65. paint: runefang steel, screamer pink & nihiakh oxide
66. 2x marine characters (terminator & Mk 4)
67. plague marine with banner
68. 5x marine scouts with sniper rifles
69. haemotrope reactors
70. plague marine chamption
71. paint: athonian camoshade & ogryn camo
72. objective markers
73, 2x chaos spawn
74. paint: runefang steel & celestra grey
75. tallyman
76 - 80: Repulsor
81 - 82: galvanic magnavent
guessing some of the paints will be in with other things Automatically Appended Next Post: Interestingly that list has the paints for the last one I got as Ceremite White & Khorne red, not the mephiston red and one I forget the name of.
guessing a mistake in this list as I can't see them changing the paints as that means changing the magazine
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Post by: Danny76
Actually on my photo prior to yours, I wrote to 78, but it is 80 exact.. (I put 31-32 for some reason, should be to 34..)
Just looking at how mine matches up to yours.. Automatically Appended Next Post: You missed out 39.
And Repulsor you’ve put 5 issues Automatically Appended Next Post:
19. lord Felthius & Tainted Cohort
20. Armoured Container #3
21. 3x Reivers
22. Paint: Astrogranite
23. Battlefield Accessories
24. Redemptor, part 1
25. Redemptor, part 2
26. Paint: Black & Fleshshade
27. Chaos rhino, part 1
28. Chaos rhino, part 2
29. primaris, captain, intercessor sergeant, inceptor sergeant & hellblaster sergeant
30. Ryza Ruins #1
31. Primaris apothecary
32. plasma conduits
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines
34. paint: gehenna’s gold & dawnstone
35. primaris chaplin
36. paint: leadbelcher, deathguard green, macragge blue
37. Ryza Ruins #2
38. plague surgeon & gaming mat
39. primaris captain
40. paint: steel legion drab, cadian fleshtone & mephiston red
41. Plague crawler, part 1
42. plague crawler, part 2
43. plasma regulators (2)
44. paint: thousand sons blue & necron compund
45. 5x marine scouts
46. blightbringer, plague caster & plague marine
47. land speeder
48. 2x marine bikes
49. paint: black, ustabti bone & calgar blue
50. 10x cultists
51. haemotrope reactor
52. paint: martian ironcrust
53. marine bike
54. typhus
55. alcomite stack
56. 8 primaris, 5x intercessors, 2x Lt, 1x ancient with banner
57. paint: temple guard blue & baneblade brown
58. attack bike & gaming mat
59. 5x primaris, 2 intercessor, 2 hellblaster & 1x inceptor
60.10x poxwalkers & 1x plague marine
61. sector mechanicus tractor
62. sector mechanicus crane
63. 10x poxwalker & 1 plague marine
64. paint: runefang steel, screamer pink & nihiakh oxide
65. 2x marine characters (terminator & Mk 4)
66. plague marine with banner
67. 5x marine scouts with sniper rifles
68. haemotrope reactors
69. plague marine chamption
70. paint: athonian camoshade & ogryn camo
71. objective markers
72, 2x chaos spawn
73. paint: runefang steel & celestra grey
74. tallyman
75 - 78: Repulsor
79 - 80: galvanic magnavent
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Post by: leopard
Always had a blind spot for 39.... and counting to four is often a problem
can you tell i used to work in a sales team yet?
very happy to be corrected by someone who can actually count
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Post by: Ketara
Anyone willing to put rrps next to these so we can work out best value and total savings?
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Post by: Danny76
Don’t count on me, my handwritten notes just had two in a block of four
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Post by: leopard
Biggest question for me personally..
Does that chaos rhino get:
1. painted mint green and rust for death guard
2. painted khorne red for some world eaters who hate walking
3. paints in my marine chapter colours and given the unused razorback parts i have and thus built as something I may actually use?
Interesting mix of paint colours there though, wouldn't have thought either army needed enough red to justify a second pot of it, while surely you would need more blue and green?
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Post by: Danny76
Well unfortunately there’s those extra pots of metal green blue and black coming that I don’t want..
The highlight and dry colours like Necron Compound etc fine..
But not more Macragge Blue :( Automatically Appended Next Post: I’ll just paint it up for my Nurgle Marine / Non Death Guard srmy that I’m gonna use all these for. Whether it then gets the play, who knows..
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Post by: leopard
have three pots of that blue, unopened, here, heck at this rate may have to find an army that uses blue to start
black is always useful, the death guard green is less so (mine are a 50-50 VMC pastel green and dead white), metals are ok though
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah I have three of issue one, so more than I’ll ever use probably.
Leadbelcher I just already had one, so now two, soon three.
But eventually yeah that can be used on armies.
That blue, every new army, kill team, generic painting piece - all Macragge Blue from now on
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Post by: leopard
Thinking blue for terrain, most of mine is white (Prospero theme) with the only building really having red detailing, but the detailing colour could easily be varied between buildings to use some other colours up
pity the CoD buildings are no more really
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Post by: Flinty
I love the nurgling wearing the champions helmet. Great touch
Pity that the dread is across 2 issues. Might be good to get a bunch of land speeders for super cheap though.
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Post by: The Real McBain
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Post by: Casualty
Flinty wrote:I love the nurgling wearing the champions helmet. Great touch 
Lol it's great.
I'm still a little puzzled by the decision to make Death Guard the most prolific Chaos force around for this cycle though. Using Ultramarines as the flagship loyalists is a no brainer, in part because their stuff is so vanilla/versatile. But all the rotting gribbly bits and bioplaguious zambonis and all mean their countetpart troops can only ever be some flavour of Death Guard. I'm not sure I understand the thinking there, if you're a newbie with some introductory type set and don't love the Death Guard's very distinct schtick, you're not going to be sold on the CSM.
Got my 11-14 delivery today.
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Post by: leopard
Death Guard are in the current starter set and have a decent range of "easy to build" models which I guess sealed the deal
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Post by: Danny76
It’s also further back from that, the point where the sculptors were clearly having a field day making Nurgley stuff, so it then had to be worked into the current options - a Starter Set and book and so forth more.
As models is the first step in the process after all..
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Post by: Casualty
leopard wrote:Death Guard are in the current starter set and have a decent range of "easy to build" models which I guess sealed the deal
Aye, that's kind of what I mean though, clearly Death Guard were the designated newcomer Chaos faction this edition - hence the easy builds, DI, First Strike etc - I just wonder why not a more "generic" faction of CSM people could use as a platform for their own ideas.
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Post by: Danny76
And that’s the model reasoning unfortunately.
Everything stems from what gets modelled and begins at that point where they lead the way with creative sculpting, and books, units etc are all built from there
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Post by: deano2099
Cleaned up list with prices.
Note that for Dark Imperium and First Strike I've just split the value by sprue (so divide by 8 and 4 respectively). I've also taken the paint prices at 20p higher as they're going up next month.
Other thing worth noting - that article talks about one premium box per battlezone, and the magazine seems to have four battlezones, changing every 20 issues. The new battle mat with the magazine for issue 21 onwards is twice the size of the first one, so I would expect the premium hard board mats to also be larger in boxes 2 through 4.
£17.00 01. 3x Intercessors (First Strike 1/4), Macragge Blue (base), Retributor Armour (base), Abbadon Black (base) and starter brush [assumed £2.50 for brush]
£ 9.00 02. 3x Plague Marines, dice (First Strike 2/4) and Death Guard Green (base)
£ 9.00 03. 3x Reivers (First Strike 3/4) and Leadbelcher (base)
£ 9.00 04. 6x Poxwalkers (First Strike 4/4) and Bugman's Glow (base)
£15.00 05. Lieutenant Calsius [not available in stores]
£10.00 06. 3 x Death Guard Plague Marines (Easy To Build)
£ 9.50 07. Paint: Nuln Oil (shade) and Agrax Earthshade (shade)
£22.50 08. Primaris Librarian
£10.00 09. 6 Death Guard Poxwalkers (Easy To Build)
£15.00 10. Myphitic Blight-hauler (Easy To Build)
£20.00 11. 3x Primaris Aggressors (Easy To Build)
£15.00 12. Foul Blightspawn [and range ruler from Dark Imperium]
£10.00 13. Armoured Containers 1/3
£ 8.40 14. Paint: Mechanicus Standard Grey and L Dry Brush
£15.00 15. Biologus Putrifier [and dice]
£11.88 16. 2 Intercessors, 2 Hellblasters, 1 Inceptor (Dark Imperium 1/8)
£10.00 17. Armoured Containers 2/3
£15.50 18. Paint: Rakarth Flesh (base) & Mephiston Red (base) & Gaming Mat [assumed £10 for mat but you can't buy it] [these are different paints listed to the ones in the UK magazine] [doesn't mention mat]
£25.00 19. Lord Felthius & Tainted Cohort (Easy To Build)
£10.00 20. Armoured Containers 3/3
£10.00 21. 3x Primaris Space Marine Reivers (Easy To Build) [and core rules from Dark Imperium]
£ 9.75 22. Paint: Astrogranite (texture) and "brush" [I am guessing the M Texture spatula thing they use for basing]
£12 23. Battlefield Accessories
£12.50 24. Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought (Easy To Build), 1/2
£12.50 25. Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought (Easy To Build), 2/2
£6.50 26. Paint: Abbadon Black (base) & Reikland Fleshshade (shade)
£11.75 27. Chaos Rhino, part 1
£11.75 28. Chaos Rhino, part 2
£11.88 29. Gravis Captain, Intercessor Sergeant, Inceptor Sergeant & Hellblaster Sergeant (Dark Imperium 2/8)
£ 8.75 30. Ryza-Pattern Ruins 1/2
£22.50 31. Primaris Apothecary
£22.50 32. Thermic Plasma Conduits [two sprues]
£11.88 33. Foetid Bloat Drone, Lord of Contagion & 4x Plague Marines (Dark Imperium 3/8)
£10.25 34. Paint: Gehenna’s Gold (layer) & Dawnstone (layer/dry) and M Layer Brush
£22.50 35. Primaris Chaplin
£ 8.25 36. Paint: Leadbelcher (base), Deathguard Green (base), Macragge Blue (base)
£ 8.75 37. Ryza-Pattern Ruins 2/2
£25.00 38. Nauseous Rotbone, the Plague Surgeon & Gaming Mat [assumed £10 for mat but you can't buy it]
£22.50 39. Primaris Captain
£ 8.25 40. Paint: Steel Legion Drab (base), Cadian Fleshtone (layer) & Mephiston Red (base) [could be Khorne Red if these got inverted]
£20.00 41. Plagueburst Crawler, 1/2
£20.00 42. Plagueburst Crawler, 2/2
£15.00 43. Thermic Plasma Regulators
£ 5.50 44. Paint: Thousand Sons Blue (base) & Necron Compound (dry) [get the feeling this will come with a medium or small drybrush as we're not otherwise getting one]
£15.50 45. 5x Space Marine Scouts
£11.88 46. Blight Bringer, Plague Caster, Plague Marine (Dark Imperium 4/8)
£18.50 47. Land Speeder
£13.33 48. Bike Squad (1/2) [2 bikes]
£ 8.25 49. Paint: Abbadon Black (base), Ushabti Bone (layer) & Calgar Blue (layer)
£12.00 50. 10x Chaos Cultists [two sets x £6]
£12.50 51. Haemotrope Reactor (1/2)
£ 4.55 52. Paint: Martian Ironcrust (texture)
£ 6.67 53. Bike Squad (2/2) [1 bike]
£25.00 54. Typhus - Herald of the Plague God
£15.00 55. Sector Mechanicus Alchomite Stack [the imagine only shows half of it so guess just the one sprue, we never appear to get the other one]
£11.88 56. 5x Intercessors, 2x Primaris Lieutenant, 1x Primaris Ancient (Dark Imperium 5/8)
£ 5.50 57. Paint: Temple Guard Blue (layer) & Baneblade Brown (layer)
£26.50 58. Attack Bike & Gaming Mat [assumed £10 for mat but you can't buy it]
£11.88 59. 2 Intercessors, 2 Hellblasters, 1 Inceptor (Dark Imperium 6/8)
£11.88 60. 10 Poxwalkers, 1 Plague Marine (Dark Imperium 7/8)
£12.50 61. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers 1/2
£12.50 62. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers 2/2 [The image is actually missing the smaller crane, but it's on the same sprues as the other stuff so they can't leave it out without a redesign]
£11.88 63. 10 Poxwalkers, 1 Plague Marine (Dark Imperium 8/8)
£ 8.45 64. Paint: Runefang Steel (layer), Screamer Pink (base) & Nihilakh Oxide (technical)
£30.00 65. Space Marine Heroes
£15.00 66. Plague Marine Icon Bearer
£15.50 67. 5x Space Marine Scouts with Sniper Rifles
£12.50 68. Haemotrope Reactor (2/2)
£15.00 69. Plague Marine Champion
£ 7.50 70. Paint: Athonian Camoshade (shade) & Ogryn Camo (layer)
£20.00 71. Sector Imperialis Objectives
£25.00 72. 2x Chaos Spawn [two sprues]
£ 5.50 73. Paint: Runefang Steel (layer) & Celestra Grey (base) [seems really unlikely we get a second pot of a layer paint like Runefang just two months later]
£15.00 74. Scribbus Wretch, the Tallyman
£12.50 75. Primaris Repulsor (1/4)
£12.50 76. Primaris Repulsor (2/4)
£12.50 77. Primaris Repulsor (3/4)
£12.50 78. Primaris Repulsor (4/4)
£22.50 79. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent (1/2) [two sprues]
£22.50 80. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent (2/2) [two sprues]
Oh total value £1,109.19. £887.352 if you pick everything up at a 20% discount. Against £625 for the total magazine cost.
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Post by: Danny76
Only thing I did differently on my pricing list, is put £8 on each DI sprue. (Just magazine cost).
Problem is that box is full of a lot more (not least of all the big £30 odd rulebook, so the sprue value isn’t at a 1/8 cost.
(Probably even less than 8 really. I think most people are selling the half of either force for £30-35 on eBay etc).
But thanks for the work, allows clear view of the setup - and helps me decide where I cancel if I don’t go all the way.
Trouble is I think of the remaining stuff that I actually definitely want, it’d be cheaper to just buy GW.
So I might end up going to an issue by issue purchase grabb8g what I need, then any that sell out I go to GW/3rd to buy it.
I basically don’t want most of the paints (particularly repeats, but I have several of the colours coming too), none of Dark Imperium except 20 Pox and a drone, and scenery I can take or leave (though seen great value on that in here).
So very torn on what to do - after my 7th delivery for the final free gifts (and 8th I want the rhino anyway..)
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Post by: Orlanth
leopard wrote:Drafted that out and i get 82 issues...
Interestingly that list has the paints for the last one I got as Ceremite White & Khorne red, not the mephiston red and one I forget the name of.
guessing a mistake in this list as I can't see them changing the paints as that means changing the magazine
I noticed that. Ceramite White is pictured on the flyer we get with issue 1.
My notes in red:
£17.00 01. 3x Intercessors (First Strike 1/4), Macragge Blue (base), Retributor Armour (base), Abbadon Black (base) and starter brush [assumed £2.50 for brush]
£ 9.00 02. 3x Plague Marines, dice (First Strike 2/4) and Death Guard Green (base)
£ 9.00 03. 3x Reivers (First Strike 3/4) and Leadbelcher (base)
£ 9.00 04. 6x Poxwalkers (First Strike 4/4) and Bugman's Glow (base)
£15.00 05. Lieutenant Calsius [not available in stores]
£10.00 06. 3 x Death Guard Plague Marines (Easy To Build)
£ 9.50 07. Paint: Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade
£22.50 08. Primaris Librarian
£10.00 09. 6 Death Guard Poxwalkers (Easy To Build)
£15.00 10. Myphitic Blight-hauler (Easy To Build)
£20.00 11. 3x Primaris Aggressors (Easy To Build)
£15.00 12. Foul Blightspawn [and range ruler from Dark Imperium]
£10.00 13. Armoured Containers 1/3
£ 8.40 14. Paint: Mechanicus Standard Grey and L Dry Brush
£15.00 15. Biologus Putrifier [and dice]
£11.88 16. 2 Intercessors, 2 Hellblasters, 1 Inceptor (Dark Imperium 1/8)
£10.00 17. Armoured Containers 2/3
£15.50 18. Paint: Rakarth Flesh (base) & Mephiston Red (base) & Gaming Mat [assumed £10 for mat but you can't buy it] [these are different paints listed to the ones in the UK magazine] [doesn't mention mat]
£25.00 19. Lord Felthius & Tainted Cohort (Easy To Build)
£10.00 20. Armoured Containers 3/3
£10.00 21. 3x Primaris Space Marine Reivers (Easy To Build) [and core rules from Dark Imperium]
£ 9.75 22. Paint: Astrogranite (texture) and "brush" [I am guessing the M Texture spatula thing they use for basing] M Base brush. We get two more brushes M Base and M Layer, and have no layer paints yet.
£12 23. Battlefield Accessories
£12.50 24. Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought (Easy To Build), 1/2
£12.50 25. Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought (Easy To Build), 2/2
£6.50 26. Paint: Abbadon Black (base) & Reikland Fleshshade (shade)
£11.75 27. Chaos Rhino, part 1
£11.75 28. Chaos Rhino, part 2
£11.88 29. Gravis Captain, Intercessor Sergeant, Inceptor Sergeant & Hellblaster Sergeant (Dark Imperium 2/8)
£ 8.75 30. Ryza-Pattern Ruins 1/2
£22.50 31. Primaris Apothecary
£22.50 32. Thermic Plasma Conduits [two sprues]
£11.88 33. Foetid Bloat Drone, Lord of Contagion & 4x Plague Marines (Dark Imperium 3/8) Technically worth a lot more than this,
£10.25 34. Paint: Gehenna’s Gold (layer) & Dawnstone (layer/dry) and M Layer Brush
£22.50 35. Primaris Chaplin
£ 8.25 36. Paint: Leadbelcher (base), Deathguard Green (base), Macragge Blue (base)
£ 8.75 37. Ryza-Pattern Ruins 2/2
£25.00 38. Nauseous Rotbone, the Plague Surgeon & Gaming Mat [assumed £10 for mat but you can't buy it]
£22.50 39. Primaris Captain
£ 8.25 40. Paint: Steel Legion Drab (base), Cadian Fleshtone (layer) & Mephiston Red (base) [could be Khorne Red if these got inverted]
£20.00 41. Plagueburst Crawler, 1/2
£20.00 42. Plagueburst Crawler, 2/2
£15.00 43. Thermic Plasma Regulators
£ 5.50 44. Paint: Thousand Sons Blue (base) & Necron Compound (dry) [get the feeling this will come with a medium or small drybrush as we're not otherwise getting one] Maybe where we gewt the Ceramite White.
£15.50 45. 5x Space Marine Scouts
£11.88 46. Blight Bringer, Plague Caster, Plague Marine (Dark Imperium 4/8)
£18.50 47. Land Speeder
£13.33 48. Bike Squad (1/2) [2 bikes]
£ 8.25 49. Paint: Abbadon Black (base), Ushabti Bone (layer) & Calgar Blue (layer)
£12.00 50. 10x Chaos Cultists [two sets x £6]
£12.50 51. Haemotrope Reactor (1/2)
£ 4.55 52. Paint: Martian Ironcrust (texture)
£ 6.67 53. Bike Squad (2/2) [1 bike]
£25.00 54. Typhus - Herald of the Plague God
£15.00 55. Sector Mechanicus Alchomite Stack [the imagine only shows half of it so guess just the one sprue, we never appear to get the other one]
£11.88 56. 5x Intercessors, 2x Primaris Lieutenant, 1x Primaris Ancient (Dark Imperium 5/8)
£ 5.50 57. Paint: Temple Guard Glue (layer) & Baneblade Brown (layer)
£26.50 58. Attack Bike & Gaming Mat [assumed £10 for mat but you can't buy it]
£11.88 59. 2 Intercessors, 2 Hellblasters, 1 Inceptor (Dark Imperium 6/8)
£11.88 60. 10 Poxwalkers, 1 Plague Marine (Dark Imperium 7/8)
£12.50 61. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers 1/2
£12.50 62. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Servohaulers 2/2 [The image is actually missing the smaller crane, but it's on the same sprues as the other stuff so they can't leave it out without a redesign] These sets show only the complete miniatures provided so far, hence why the Dark Imperium poxwalker sprues show one plague marine while it has parts for more.
£11.88 63. 10 Poxwalkers, 1 Plague Marine (Dark Imperium 8/8)
£ 8.45 64. Paint: Runefang Steel (layer), Screamer Pink (base) & Nihilakh Oxide (technical)
£30.00 65. Space Marine Heroes
£15.00 66. Plague Marine Icon Bearer
£15.50 67. 5x Space Marine Scouts with Sniper Rifles
£12.50 68. Haemotrope Reactor (2/2)
£15.00 69. Plague Marine Champion
£ 7.50 70. Paint: Athonian Camoshade (shade) & Ogryn Camo (layer)
£20.00 71. Sector Imperialis Objectives
£25.00 72. 2x Chaos Spawn [two sprues]
£ 5.50 73. Paint: Runefang Steel (layer) & Celestra Grey (base) [seems really unlikely we get a second pot of a layer paint like Runefang just two months later] Maybe we will be advised to use this a lot for the terrain. Only excuse I can think of.
£15.00 74. Scribbus Wretch, the Tallyman
£12.50 75. Primaris Repulsor (1/4)
£12.50 76. Primaris Repulsor (2/4)
£12.50 77. Primaris Repulsor (3/4)
£12.50 78. Primaris Repulsor (4/4)
£22.50 79. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent (1/2) [two sprues]
£22.50 80. Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent (2/2) [two sprues]
Oh total value £1,109.19. £887.352 if you pick everything up at a 20% discount. Against £625 for the total magazine cost.
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Post by: phillv85
Damn, I was hoping the chaos spawn were sooner. Thanks for putting these lists out though guys, incredibly helpful.
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Post by: deano2099
Danny76 wrote:Only thing I did differently on my pricing list, is put £8 on each DI sprue. (Just magazine cost).
Problem is that box is full of a lot more (not least of all the big £30 odd rulebook, so the sprue value isn’t at a 1/8 cost.
(Probably even less than 8 really. I think most people are selling the half of either force for £30-35 on eBay etc).
Yeah it's tricky. On one hand they are worth less because of all the extra stuff, on the other hand if you're just looking at picking up certain issues, they're worth more as you don't have to buy them all together.
Almost certain the full rulebook will be one of the opt-out extra "issues" - be interesting to see if it comes at a big discount. The other DI booklets they are basically re-purposing for the magazine itself, and we have the range ruler and dice. I'd be amazed if we didn't get the transfer sheet at some point too, probably in a two-paint issue. Automatically Appended Next Post: Other thoughts: 4 more paints listed than on the poster, and there's no way any of the poster paints are thousand sons blue, nialakh oxide or screamer pink.
I would guess one of the runefang steels is a mess-up and it should be ceramite white. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and the Alchomite Stack wasn't on the original poster at all, so guess it's a bonus even if we only get half a kit. The full hauler set is on the poster.
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Post by: Orlanth
deano2099 wrote:Danny76 wrote:Only thing I did differently on my pricing list, is put £8 on each DI sprue. (Just magazine cost).
Problem is that box is full of a lot more (not least of all the big £30 odd rulebook, so the sprue value isn’t at a 1/8 cost.
(Probably even less than 8 really. I think most people are selling the half of either force for £30-35 on eBay etc).
Yeah it's tricky. On one hand they are worth less because of all the extra stuff, on the other hand if you're just looking at picking up certain issues, they're worth more as you don't have to buy them all together.
Almost certain the full rulebook will be one of the opt-out extra "issues" - be interesting to see if it comes at a big discount. The other DI booklets they are basically re-purposing for the magazine itself, and we have the range ruler and dice. I'd be amazed if we didn't get the transfer sheet at some point too, probably in a two-paint issue.
I wouldn't value the gaming mats at all as they are paper. They are useful as 'travel terrain' to keep at the bottom of your army box just in case, but it doesn't have value as product.
Dark Imperium is worth £11.88 per sprue, that is retail value of £95 dived by eight. Of course this omits the rulebook etc which you don't get but it values the sprues against getting them singly.
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Post by: Danny76
He did put £11.88..
The discussion is the fact you’re dividing just by sprues, ignoring the remaining content.
Ignoring all the other irrelevant bits but rules is a hefty portion of the cost.
So more accurately.
(£95-£35) / 8 = sprue cost.
But that’s just me, I wouldn’t want to individually pay £11.88 eight times to get those sprues and but then miss out on the rules, is what I’m saying.
However £8x8 brings to £64, which is roughly about right for not getting the rules from the £95 cost price.
(That’s just why I personally would value it at £8 each).
I think you’re right Deano we will see the rules - my guess would be £15 like the art, and I think all 4 will be £15.
So a great saving (and gets people full rules to expand playing past the subscription)
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Also, spot on Orlanth.
To me those small paper mats are at zero cost, particularly if they’re all just like the one we already received (which they are going to be, as it’s only premium subs that get the heftier ones I’d imagine)
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Post by: deano2099
Danny76 wrote:
But that’s just me, I wouldn’t want to individually pay £11.88 eight times to get those sprues and but then miss out on the rules, is what I’m saying.
I guess what we don't know yet is how much of the rules will actually get printed verbatim in the magazine anyway
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Also, spot on Orlanth.
To me those small paper mats are at zero cost, particularly if they’re all just like the one we already received (which they are going to be, as it’s only premium subs that get the heftier ones I’d imagine)
The second one is twice the size of the first one. Obviously like anything in Conquest if you don't want something it's not really worth anything in your calculation if they're not otherwise sold.
But given GW sell a Warhammer Underworlds board in hard cardboard, but half the size of the first mat and a quarter of the size of the second, for £15 then £10 didn't sound like a bad call.
(It also means GW would value those premium boards at £200+ which explains a lot!)
Of course, that board is a rip-off based on production costs but, y'know, so are all GW minis...
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
If they're the size of the one that came in the recent issue, they're suitable for Kill team. Saves you a bit more cash on that game.
You can always iron out the creases if they bother you.
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Post by: Flinty
Hmm... so the best savings are on the characters and, bizarrely, the humble land speeder. I had hoped that the receptor would go in on a single issue, but I guess the sprue for that are relatively new and they won't want to discount them too much. I imagine that the land speeder has probably paid for itself by now
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Post by: OrkPlayer137
It will be interesting to see how the Chaos Rhino sprues are split - the main Rhino itself is only really two sprues, then there are two more Chaos sprues with hatches, spikes, etc. So for anyone with spare hatch parts in their bits box, it could be essentially a complete Rhino for only £8 if they put the two main hull/chassis sprues together in the first magazine, which makes sense because they need to be built before adding the hatches and other bits later.
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Post by: Danny76
I think just the Core Rules and any relevant to unit rules we will get.
But rather I mean paying that amount to not get the actual hardback book means you’re getting less, irrespective of whether we get the rules itself in other forms..
Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Well I might risk getting an extra plagueburst crawler over the two weeks as that is a crazy saving.. but the Primaris Dread is only saving £3 compared to discounter prices, and the Primaris tank is saving a £5 over four weeks to discounters but I'd say as a non subscriber there is a significant risk of not getting one of the four sprues direct and then losing the discount trying to hunt it down from ebay.
Still a couple of individual DG characters I'd like to track down at half price.. but for the most part that looks like the main thing left I am interested in is the Crawler.
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Post by: Danny76
Safest way for the Primaris Tank is to wait till they are all out and order all at once, though of course by then people may have been ordering separately and earlier ones are missing.
Same is true of the PBC by the time the second one comes out, but I’m gonna try for sure.
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Post by: Orlanth
Danny76 wrote:He did put £11.88..
The discussion is the fact you’re dividing just by sprues, ignoring the remaining content.
Ignoring all the other irrelevant bits but rules is a hefty portion of the cost.
So more accurately.
(£95-£35) / 8 = sprue cost.)
Actually i agree with your logic, but when dealing with a boxset at retail you have to ook at it as 'how much would it cost me to get these items from GW'. The answer is £95. This ten has to be split eight ways and the additional components discarded.
Danny76 wrote:
But that’s just me, I wouldn’t want to individually pay £11.88 eight times to get those sprues and but then miss out on the rules, is what I’m saying.
However £8x8 brings to £64, which is roughly about right for not getting the rules from the £95 cost price.
(That’s just why I personally would value it at £8 each).
The only way to handle that is to see if there is a rulesless copy one can buy instead. Know no Fear contains 5 sprues of Dark Imperium without rules for £50, its not complete but gives a fair rules free price of £10 per sprue.
Danny76 wrote:
Also, spot on Orlanth.
To me those small paper mats are at zero cost, particularly if they’re all just like the one we already received (which they are going to be, as it’s only premium subs that get the heftier ones I’d imagine)
I have kept my gaming mat from issue 18, to me it has potential as its heavy paper, but still paper. So not particularly resilient and easy to soil, but also very easy to sptore away on the bottom of an army case as a reserve option. The print on terrain is also handy for the same reason. Still can put a value to it, if it want there the issue would be worth the same, I wouldnt intentionally use it at all, but its worth not throwing away, unlike the tiny map from issue 2 which I ignored as worthless.
While not relevant to the pricing here there is a glut on decent boards. I am collecting the Killzone boxsets for £39 each at Alchemist workshop, GW price £50. The contents are very good value for £50. I am very impressed with Killzone Sector Mechanicus, the box was full of sprues and the pieces are larger than expected, there is a lot of terrain in even one box (I wont be stopped at one though). Its all over my desk right now
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Post by: Danny76
Orlanth wrote:Danny76 wrote:He did put £11.88..
The discussion is the fact you’re dividing just by sprues, ignoring the remaining content.
Ignoring all the other irrelevant bits but rules is a hefty portion of the cost.
So more accurately.
(£95-£35) / 8 = sprue cost.)
Actually i agree with your logic, but when dealing with a boxset at retail you have to ook at it as 'how much would it cost me to get these items from GW'. The answer is £95. This ten has to be split eight ways and the additional components discarded.
I just wouldn’t discard a £35 book from that box. Particularly when working out a price of something inside.
But I guess that’s exactly it, that everyone can out their own value on something.
£10 a sprue in line with the smaller boxes I suppose, but again when I look, it’s the cheapest rrp to get something I’d consider, so probably wouldn’t look at the £50 one, when there’s so much more for £95.
Yeah I think the card mats are ok, I may see their use in Kill Team, but to put a price on them is difficult..
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Post by: WobblyGoblin
The rule book seems to go for between £16-18 on eBay (for an unused one). Somewhere around £12-15 seems a reasonable assumed price given there is undoubtedly a discount for the box purchase.
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Post by: deano2099
I think it's down to how you look at it. My approach was to just say "okay, if I wanted this from GW, what's the cheapest way to get it?" - in the case of those 8 sprues, it's Dark Imperium. That's the cheapest way to buy them. You can't buy just the sprues on their own for £70.
The flip side of that is if they added the rules to the subscription for free, I wouldn't value the total value of the sub any higher because if you were buying the stuff separately, you would already have the rules from DI.
If we factor in the value of other things then the cheapest way to get all the paints, for example, is to buy the GW paint bundles, if you assume all the other paints are also have value.
And then of course the question of if the magazine itself has any value. We value a 250 or so page rulebook but not the 1600 pages of partwork...
Like I say, it's a rabbit hole. For me the only approach that seemed logical was "what would it cost me to buy all this?" - and where stuff wasn't on sale, how much similar equivalents costed elsewhere.
Lets face it, realistically an extra squad of plague marines would be better value than yet another plague marine character for 99% of people...
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Post by: phillv85
To be fair, those sprues for DI May end up becoming Start Collecting boxes for Primaris and Death Guard once there is a new starter box. So they may end up being "worth" £50-60 per faction. That's what happened with last editions AOS starter models.
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Post by: OrkPlayer137
Danny76 wrote:
Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..
The first two hull sprues make everything except the hatches and storm bolter on a normal Rhino, but anyone who has bought a few space marine tanks in the past will probably have spare hatches and storm bolters in their bits box.
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Post by: Danny76
phillv85 wrote:To be fair, those sprues for DI May end up becoming Start Collecting boxes for Primaris and Death Guard once there is a new starter box. So they may end up being "worth" £50-60 per faction. That's what happened with last editions AOS starter models.
That’s true. Seems most likely down the line. Automatically Appended Next Post: OrkPlayer137 wrote:Danny76 wrote:
Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..
The first two hull sprues make everything except the hatches and storm bolter on a normal Rhino, but anyone who has bought a few space marine tanks in the past will probably have spare hatches and storm bolters in their bits box.
I guess equally anyone who has the sub will get the hatch and bits Sprue in second issue.
So could buy the first one again and do the same.
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Post by: Orlanth
Danny76 wrote:Safest way for the Primaris Tank is to wait till they are all out and order all at once, though of course by then people may have been ordering separately and earlier ones are missing.
Same is true of the PBC by the time the second one comes out, but I’m gonna try for sure.
If you don't order promptly you will not get it at all. This will be a recurring feature for all the multipart issues that are not individual independent sprues (the terrain).
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OrkPlayer137 wrote:Danny76 wrote:
Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..
The first two hull sprues make everything except the hatches and storm bolter on a normal Rhino, but anyone who has bought a few space marine tanks in the past will probably have spare hatches and storm bolters in their bits box.
The Rhino is in two issues, so the minor bits will be thrown in. It is not strictly one sprue per issue.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
I've just Subscribed from Issue 1, am I going to get all the issues to date? Or are some issues out of stock?
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Post by: Danny76
They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.
Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits
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Post by: leopard
Danny76 wrote:They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.
Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits
A lot depends on who is making the decisions, if its an accountant you will get one f the body frames and the hatches first, so you have to buy both magazines to get anything useful, if its a hobbyist it will be the chassis first, and hatches/spikes etc next time.
guess it comes down to how many people they expect to be buying single issues to get specific models, I would suggest thats probably a lot less of a problem than people may expect
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Well, Partworks traditionally don’t do their whole run in store.
The release order will be curated to a degree, and set to best suit subscribers. So not sure bean counters particularly factor in?
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Post by: Danny76
Also to fit the magazine itself.
I.e. get the first portion built in one issue (so two sensible sprues together)
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Post by: Orlanth
Danny76 wrote:They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.
Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits
Hachette have been savvy over contents. They will not want a situation where people spam buy one issue and ignore another any more than they do already. I think the chassis will be split over two issues. The magazine contents are confirmed as one issue covering all assembly and one issue covering all painting. This highlights the holistic approach to Hsachette thinking on the vehicles pieces, quite separate to individual items like the Munitorum Containers which were repetitive over assembly content and wasted pages that could have provided more fluff.
The real frenzy will happen with the Plagueburst Crawler. the Repulsor may be one of the two capstone models along with the Mechanicus derrick. BGut the price over four issues is actually less competitive than some online retailers. But a Plagueburst Crawler for £16, having that, and another one, and another one on top of that.
I have been looking at the models I particularly want counting along the weeks.
Issues 24&25 Redemptor Dreadnought - 3rd and 4th week February
27&28 Rhino - 2nd and 3rd March
29 Dark Imperium Space Marine command - 4th March
31 Primaris Apothecary - 1 April
32 Plasma Conduits 2 Apr
33 Nurgle command and Plague Drone 3 Apr
34 M Layer Brush, Genennas Gold and Dawnstone 4 Apr
35 Primaris Chaplain 1 May
38 Nauseous Rotbone 4 May
39 Primaris Captain 1 Jun
41 Plagueburst Crawler (half) 3 Jun
42 Plagueburst Crawler (half) 4 Jun
43 Plasma regulators 5 Jun
47 Land Speeder 2 Jul
50 Cultists 1 Aug
54 Typhus 1 Sep
55 Alchomite Stack 2 Sep
58 Attack Bike 5 Sep
59 Primaris reinforcements (if issue 16 not found) 1 Oct
60 Plague Zombies 2 Oct
66 Nurgle Icon Bearer 4 Nov
69 Plague Marine Champion 3 Dec
71 Objectives 5 Dec
72 Chaos Spawn 1 Jan 2020
74 Tallyman 3 Jan
75 Repulsor (quarter) 4 Jan
76 Repulsor (quarter) 1 Feb
77 Repulsor (quarter) 2 Feb
78 Repulsor (quarter) 3 Feb
79 Galvanic Magnavent (half) 4 Feb
80 Galvanic Magnavent (half) 1 Mar
Its not complete the above is copied over from my own collectors workfile and highlights only the issues I will want at least one more copy over over the subsciption. Non-subscribers willbe advised to make their own list. I annotated it at the top so you can read the column, but removed the order data as it was personal to me. Though I can say that some items are 5+ but most are a single copy extra. As you can see a lot of the good stuff is some way off and completing is in March 2020. By which time we might be into the rumoured Age of Sigmar partworks campaign.
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Post by: Danny76
Have the rumours of AoS actually come from anywhere though.
I’ve only seen people saying that it’d be good / they expect they would.
I think it is quite likely to be fair, but just hadn’t seen any kind of credible thing.
(With the similar amount of ETB it’s a good start, then the Soul Wars much like DI, should all fit nicely..)
But the 40k legends books came and we never got a fantasy side to it or anything.. Automatically Appended Next Post: My sheet looks as follows. From post issue 30 (where I’m definitely subscribed till).
Bold is what I NEED. The rest on here are things I’ll be interested in.
Thus where I’m unsure on being subbed to the end or just go for individual issues..
31. Primaris apothecary £22.50
32. plasma conduits £22.50
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines £DI
35. primaris chaplin £22.50
38. plague surgeon & gaming mat £15
39. primaris captain £22.50
41. Plague crawler, part 1 £40
42. plague crawler, part 2 £0
43. plasma regulators £15
47. land speeder £18.50
51. haemotrope reactor £12.50
54. typhus £25
55. alcomite stack £30
60.10x poxwalkers & 1x plague marine £DI
61. sector mechanicus tractor £12.50
62. sector mechanicus crane £12.50
63. 10x poxwalker & 1 plague marine £DI
65. 2x marine characters (terminator & Mk 4) £30?
66. plague marine with banner £15
68. haemotrope reactors £12.50
69. plague marine champion £15
71. objective markers £20
72, 2x chaos spawn £25
74. tallyman £15
75 - 78: Repulsor £50
79 - 80: galvanic magnavent £45
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Post by: tneva82
Danny76 wrote:They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.
Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits
Uhm that's very good reason why they would NOT do it. Not result in one magazine being spammed like that and others missed. And GW wouldn't want TOO good of a discount.
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Post by: leopard
Well its unclear if the next one of these will be 40k again or AoS, but the fact there will be another one seems highly likely.
and likely to be under consideration for crafting a range of ETB models with such a magazine run in mind
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Post by: The Real McBain
Shouldn't be an issue, no pun intended. Otherwise they couldn't ethically take your order.
You should probably prepare for delays though. I subscribed on the 1st of January, was told I would have my first deliver in up to 28 days.
I sent an email inquiring and was told it would be now 38 days
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Post by: deano2099
Just as a note, the warhammer tv video for 19-20 went up and it’s the last one, apparently. It’s likely it was only ever planned for the first twenty issues, though it’s also possible the Hachette/GW partnership isn’t working out as well as planned.
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
Surprised to not have the order details for issues 19-22 pop up on my online account yet, I have been getting deliveries regularly every 4 weeks. If that had continued I *should* be getting my delivery of issues 19-22 any day soon. Given the lateness of a lot of people's issue 15-18 shipment maybe Hachette are just rebalancing their delivery schedule?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Same.
My 2000AD stuff is also late.
Amused I am not. Up with this I will not put! Automatically Appended Next Post: deano2099 wrote:Just as a note, the warhammer tv video for 19-20 went up and it’s the last one, apparently. It’s likely it was only ever planned for the first twenty issues, though it’s also possible the Hachette/ GW partnership isn’t working out as well as planned.
Given they’re launching it in other countries, yet to be declared, I suspect it’s not the latter
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
Perhaps the Hachette staff are some of those lucky beasts that get a fortnight off over Christmas and New Year? Not too concerned myself, I still need to paint the Biologus Putrifier and Primaris from the last delivery.
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Post by: Casualty
Out of curiosity, how many current subscribers would subscribe to another (different content, obviously) run again? Based on your experience, value from this one?
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Post by: regraham
Out of curiosity, how many current subscribers would subscribe to another (different content, obviously) run again? Based on your experience, value from this one?
I'm Praying they don't do AOS, my wallet Can't take it!
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Post by: BlackKnight
Casualty wrote:Out of curiosity, how many current subscribers would subscribe to another (different content, obviously) run again? Based on your experience, value from this one?
I'm still subscribed to the Legends book collection and I have been very happy with the selection of books they have released, even when its been a book I have already owned. I do not have many HB books so to have an 80 book collection with a diorama on the spines, on my bookshelf, looks lovely.
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
For me it's down to factions , I was already doing a small Fists force and I have oddments of unpainted Chaos , plus I don't own DI. Paint is always useful as well. The key thing is that I can order it from the newsagent as I would not subscribe directly with Hachette as they outsource their customer service, hence why it's rubbish to appaling.
With AoS I have already owned and moved on from both Stprmcast and Nighthaunt, did not enjoy the various play style of either.
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Post by: phillv85
It’d probably be the kicker I needed to start AOS
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Post by: Legiocustodes
I really don’t like AoS. Just a personal thing; it doesn’t look like a bad game system and the models are pretty cool... I just can’t click with the new setting. As such I’m rooting for another 40k partworks... or even better a Horus Heresy one; though I’m not sure there’s enough plastic 30k models to achieve this.
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Post by: Danny76
No not for HH I don’t think.
There won’t be another 40k, as it’d be too similar (maybe in years)
But AoS could, and I’d be surprised if didn’t, come after. But I would think not till this one finishes.
Makes sense to start with 40k the big hitter.
If two ran at same time then people might not buy both. But finish one, start another then sure why not.
Thing is, it would be all the same subscriber deals, and paint in issues etc. so who would need all that twice.
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Post by: deano2099
Another 40k one that was say, Orks vs Eldar would be different enough I would think - all different models, paint schemes and even rules to some extent. At some point soon subscribing from issue one will stop being an option at which point launching another similar series becomes viable. Because you're selling to two different audiences.
Collectors of the first set wouldn't be the target audience (in the same way people already playing 40K are not the target audience for Conquest).
AoS is the obvious next step - it's almost easier as it has that progressive play mechanic already built in to the rules.
But there's other options. There might be a desire to experiment with say, a Kill Team partwork at a lower price point (£4.99) with a mix of models, cards, paints and scenery.
Or even Lord of the Rings?
Worth noting GW recruited a while ago for a partworks division, which suggests more than just one concurrent project. Although with the series wrapping up I can easily see the next partwork being a complete Horus Heresy novel set.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I'm not subscribing but am picking up a significant number of the issues (and multiples of some)
and i'd do so again depending on what forces are on offer for either AoS or 40K although it would have to be once this one has finished or i'd be having to pick and choose on or the other most weeks
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Any other subscriptions would be based on what figures they were doing.
Any pairing of other 40k forces, i would be subed,
AoS i don't really know the forces, but I'm already using oldhammer freemen as PDF. I'm sure i could use most combinations for something.
LotR seems to be less heroic scale, so doesn't fit so well. I'd probably pass on that, or just order the figures i want.
I'd love to see a kill team one though. Build multiple teams , covering each race or chapter.
I can't see the games having enough products to do them.
What could work though is the Citadel/GW collectors series. 40+ years of figures available, some virtually unknown in the wild.
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Post by: Danny76
AoS will (if) be Stormcast and Nighthaunt.
Much like this one, it is based on the starter set and the ETB kits.
I doubt we would see another 40k one just as it’s done, and Eldar & Orks to me (or any other faction in fact) seems unlikely as again, they don’t have those cheap throwaway (in GW eyes) sprues such as the above ones.
LoTR coming back round after AoS I could see. It was their first after all  See how the GW/Hachette mix take it on..
Deano, what makes you think subscribing will become unavailable soon? I wouldn’t imagine that would happen till near the end of the year (maybe at the three month left point or so?)
The novel series is complete by June, but you can still sub from the beginning at the moment.
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Post by: The Real McBain
deano2099 wrote:Just as a note, the warhammer tv video for 19-20 went up and it’s the last one, apparently. It’s likely it was only ever planned for the first twenty issues, though it’s also possible the Hachette/ GW partnership isn’t working out as well as planned.
That's absolute nonsense, people have more than 20 issues. And the video means nothing
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Post by: JohnnyHell
They meant the video was the last one...
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Post by: Flying_Fish
Anyone else not had their January subscription yet?
Just logged into my account on their website and there's been no update to my account since 14 Dec 18, although it is still showing as active
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Post by: alphaecho
Flying_Fish wrote:Anyone else not had their January subscription yet?
Just logged into my account on their website and there's been no update to my account since 14 Dec 18, although it is still showing as active
Mine shows the same however Customer Services has informed me that my latest sub delivery was dispatched on 21 Jan. Allow 7 - 14 days for delivery.
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Post by: Oppl
Mine was last charged on 16th January and I've had nothing since early December.
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Post by: Danny76
Appeared on my sub for 19th Jan, so I guess on the way.
Though weirdly there are the 4 slots there for each issue like they normally have each time, but they are blank of detail aside from £7.99 for each..
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Post by: filbert
Flying_Fish wrote:Anyone else not had their January subscription yet?
Just logged into my account on their website and there's been no update to my account since 14 Dec 18, although it is still showing as active
Same here. No activity logged since 14th Dec. I expect it is on the way though. I wouldn’t take the subscription details page as gospel.
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Post by: Danny76
I rarely remember to log in and check there, but so far I’ve had no issues and it’s always turned up roughly same time.
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Post by: phillv85
Forbidden Planet have restocked issue 19 (Lord Felthius + tainted cohort) if anyone missed out.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Though it isn't showing yet, i expect my latest payment to have been taken yesterday. I have checked when each payment goes out and it's always the last Friday of the month. About 14 days later, it turns up on the doorstep. I expect if others checked their dates against a calendar, they'd see a pattern to the dates too.
I have my order in with forbidden planet for #19, 24, 25, 27, 28. Just hope the hull is all in #27, I've ordered 2 copies.
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Post by: Danny76
Have you done preorders from them before?
Do they wait and ship once the last ones out (so when 28 comes, you’ll get all of that?) Automatically Appended Next Post: Payments taken:
2nd Nov
30 Nov
31st Dec.
?? Jan.
Actual arrival dates I can’t really remember, pretty sure it’ll be around now ish.
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Post by: The Real McBain
I read on the official FB page that transfer decals will not be provided. Can you buy these separate?
Edit - and does anyone know which delivery the art book comes with?
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Post by: phillv85
Danny76 wrote:Have you done preorders from them before?
Do they wait and ship once the last ones out (so when 28 comes, you’ll get all of that?)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Payments taken:
2nd Nov
30 Nov
31st Dec.
?? Jan.
Actual arrival dates I can’t really remember, pretty sure it’ll be around now ish.
Do you mean Forbidden Planet for the pre-orders? If so, they send them as they come in stock.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Hachette are defo behind this month.
2000AD is late, and Conquest has only just been billed.
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Post by: Danny76
phillv85 wrote:Danny76 wrote:Have you done preorders from them before?
Do they wait and ship once the last ones out (so when 28 comes, you’ll get all of that?)
.
Do you mean Forbidden Planet for the pre-orders? If so, they send them as they come in stock.
Ok. Seems odd.
You’d think that they’d send all as one.
Presumably the postage would be better for them then.
It’s £2 for one and £3 for two issues. So if they post two preorders separate then that’s costing th more
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Danny76 wrote:Have you done preorders from them before?
Do they wait and ship once the last ones out (so when 28 comes, you’ll get all of that?)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Payments taken:
2nd Nov
30 Nov
31st Dec.
?? Jan.
Actual arrival dates I can’t really remember, pretty sure it’ll be around now ish.
First time trying them, i have had an email on Wed saying they have dispatched #19 though. I'm expecting to receive them individually .
On the payments taken, forget the first one, that is connected to sign up, the next is 28 days later, which seems to set the pattern. I would say yours is last day (or last working day?) of a month. I expect it will show up a few days after it's gone through giving 31st Jan as payment date. With the Xmas break seeming to have screwed other deliveries from them up, they could prove me wrong, and change it
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Post by: Danny76
2nd Nov isn’t my first, it’s just as far back as my banking app went without logging into the site..
End of August was first, but yeah it’s always been pretty much last day of month, with delivery around the same time (I think).
Well that bodes well for when I do individual issues, just waiting for the next batch (30 onwards) of issues to appear on preorder..
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Post by: Flying_Fish
Just logged onto their site, which now states they took payment on 21 Jan 19. Something my bank hasn't picked up on yet...
Lets hope everything turns up this week.
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Post by: Danny76
The dates on their site aren’t the same as the dates it will show on your bank.
That’s their processing date.
Each month mine has some out end of month, After when the website shows
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
I subscribed on the 18th from Issue #1. Can anyone give me an idea as to how long I might have to wait for the first few issues to be delivered?
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Post by: Danny76
Within 4 weeks. It has varied for people starting late how soon the first comes..
And you will possibly get issues 1-2 or 1-3, followed by 3-6 or 4-6.
Thus getting you into sync for further months, as they flow 7-10 and every 4 onwards..
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Post by: Dr Coconut
It's around 14 days after the payment is taken. My first payment was taken about a week after subscribing. I'd be expecting your delivery first week of Feb. Saying that, i expected my payment to come out Friday 25th, but not showing yet....
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Post by: The Real McBain
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:I subscribed on the 18th from Issue #1. Can anyone give me an idea as to how long I might have to wait for the first few issues to be delivered?
I subbed on the first, my account now says sent on 18th, nothing received yet
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Post by: NurglesR0T
Any news anywhere of a release schedule for other countries? Not even a whisper of this in Aus yet :(
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Post by: alphaecho
NurglesR0T wrote:Any news anywhere of a release schedule for other countries? Not even a whisper of this in Aus yet :(
Unprecedented demand in the UK tied in with the Spanish launch means there has been no opportunity to build up stock for further international releases?
Others threads indicate GW is maxed out meeting the ongoing regular releases.
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Post by: Aenar
This January Hachette has started a test run in Italy, distributing the first 4 issues in newsstands around the country. It's also possible to subscribe for the first 4 issues.
According to what sellers know, based on the success of this test run they'll actually decide whether to continue with the whole collection or kill it in the crib.
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Post by: beast_gts
From FB:
Warhammer 40,000: Conquest wrote:
Dear customers,
Please note that unfortunately our customer service team have been facing technical difficulties this week meaning that they are currently unable to respond to emails. If you have contacted the team and not yet received a response, please don’t worry. As soon as the technical issues are fixed the team will work through any customer queries which have come in via email, but we are expecting responses to be delayed as a result of these technical difficulties.
We are sorry for the inconvenience and we would like to thank you for your patience.
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Post by: Danny76
Delay replying to all the messages regarding missing January deliveries no doubt too.
I’ve got lots to work on so don’t mind if it doesn’t come for a while..
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Post by: beast_gts
Danny76 wrote:Delay replying to all the messages regarding missing January deliveries no doubt too.
And the people who didn't read the art book letter.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Going on previous billing/post times, I may be heading home to a bumper crop! Conquest, 2000AD, White Dwarf and my second Reaver. How exciting!
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Post by: Danny76
beast_gts wrote:Danny76 wrote:Delay replying to all the messages regarding missing January deliveries no doubt too.
And the people who didn't read the art book letter.
There was enough of that just from people receiving the letter, who didn’t read the sign up info!
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
If the deliveries do start landing this week it means we are more in line with the shop release date with the last issue of the collection of 4 hitting retail just as subscribers get their delivery. Previously I was getting my delivery slap bang in the middle of the release schedule. It may make more sense to Hachette with regards to printing times?
I am interested to see if the art book is a bust like the premium subscription or something genuinely worth having.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Checked my subscription this morning, the latest payment was dated 25th January. It wasn't there yesterday. This does match with my prediction. I expect others will also see the same. Expecting delivery in a fortnight, so around 14th February.
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Post by: Danny76
Note to everyone.
Forbidden Planet have updated preorders up to issue 40, mid May i think (just before the Plagueburst, assuming the order leaked is indeed correct)
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Post by: alphaecho
I received my sub delivery of issues 19-22 this morning.
The art book was included. Opinions will vary over its worth.
Personally I like it but it is definitely at a level I consider expensive. The book is smaller than other art books and comes with a slipcase.
Some of the art is new to me but I've never flicked through a Death Guard Codex so they may have been available before.
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Post by: boundless08
I got a "Sorry we missed you" letter from the post today and I'm 99% sure it's conquest unless there's something I bought and forgot. It has seemed like ages since the last one, must have been at least 6 weeks
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
Got my first issue today, Issue #1. Are there any other late subscribers? How long did it take for you to catch up, will they double up on Issues?
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Post by: Casualty
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:Got my first issue today, Issue #1. Are there any other late subscribers? How long did it take for you to catch up, will they double up on Issues?
They don't double up, I'm afraid. You'll always be a few behind. On the upside, you have plenty of time to plan what you want to do with each new mini?
Also worth mentioning that I got an early issue one as part of my subscription and then ordered an additional one for the extra minis and paint etc - the later one arrived in better shape and better packaging and the paintbrush was far better quality.
My impression is that they were rushing to meet the crazy demand early on, but later subscribers seem to be far less prone to shoddy quality/packaging, missing items or payment errors.
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Post by: Shadow Captain Edithae
Casualty wrote: Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:Got my first issue today, Issue #1. Are there any other late subscribers? How long did it take for you to catch up, will they double up on Issues? They don't double up, I'm afraid. You'll always be a few behind. On the upside, you have plenty of time to plan what you want to do with each new mini? Also worth mentioning that I got an early issue one as part of my subscription and then ordered an additional one for the extra minis and paint etc - the later one arrived in better shape and better packaging and the paintbrush was far better quality. My impression is that they were rushing to meet the crazy demand early on, but later subscribers seem to be far less prone to shoddy quality/packaging, missing items or payment errors. Ha! My first Issue came with a broken frayed paint brush and my mold line remover has no handle. If I wasn't an experienced wargamer with all the tools I need already I would be pissed.
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Post by: Aeneades
None of the mold line removers had handles, they are the very basic version.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
It works fine without one. Possibly better.
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah it’s actually good for reaching areas when little.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Got issues 19 - 22 today, in a bag rather than a box. The art book is nice, although focussed on Death Guard and Ultramarines (a I was expecting). I like that it names all the artists for each piece.
Also, one of the background pages is about three Chapters who famously diverge from the Codex Astartes; the Iron Hands, the Salamanders … and the Ultramarines.
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Post by: Danny76
I bag too..
Not sure about that, folded a few of my edges a little there, had to press with a rulebook to flatten out.
That’s in the artbook?
Surely no one would make that mistake making these..
Of all the diverging chapters.
I’d say those three, when it comes to following it strictly are in the top half of it..
DA and SW would have made more sense
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Post by: phillv85
I got my subscription as well. The art book feels a little thin for £15
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Danny76 wrote:I bag too..
Not sure about that, folded a few of my edges a little there, had to press with a rulebook to flatten out.
That’s in the artbook?
Surely no one would make that mistake making these..
Of all the diverging chapters.
I’d say those three, when it comes to following it strictly are in the top half of it..
DA and SW would have made more sense
No, it makes sense. The Ultramarines have a pretty major divergence from the Codex. It’s one that is far more important than the Dark Angels’ and Blood Angels minor organisational discrepancies. Read it and you’ll see.  it’s not in the art books; I already told you it’s on one of the background pages.
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Post by: Danny76
You were talking about the art book and then said background pages.
I don’t have it so don’t know whether there’s any background in there too.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
I talked about the art book in one paragraph. Then I started a new paragraph, to talk about a different piece of information.
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Post by: leopard
pity the conquest TV stuff has ended, just watched the last one, actually have been enjoying them, cheese and all, the bod they had presenting them was spot on for the job
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Post by: Ketara
Does anyone know which rhino sprues are with which issues yet?
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Post by: alphaecho
Ketara wrote:Does anyone know which rhino sprues are with which issues yet?
Unless Forbidden Planet have advance photos, we may have to wait until the first copies arrive in WH Smiths.
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah unfortunately it’s still about a month away of finding out.
As even the back of 25 probably will just show a Rhino, not have a built Rhino
Once someone gets a copy in hand, by any means, we will find out,.
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Post by: leopard
Ketara wrote:Does anyone know which rhino sprues are with which issues yet?
#27 & #28
there is a list on page 45 of this thread with whats in each issue from the Spanish publisher, basically what exactly is in what is unknown for multi-part though, reasonably safe bet to say you're not doing much with the first issue alone though
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Post by: Danny76
I think he meant which Rhino sprues are in each of those issues, rather than issue numbers.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Dr Coconut wrote:Checked my subscription this morning, the latest payment was dated 25th January. It wasn't there yesterday. This does match with my prediction. I expect others will also see the same. Expecting delivery in a fortnight, so around 14th February.
Actually arrived today, a week earlier than i thought
leopard wrote:pity the conquest TV stuff has ended, just watched the last one, actually have been enjoying them, cheese and all, the bod they had presenting them was spot on for the job
I quite enjoyed them too. I wasn't waiting on every one to be uploaded, but would look when i remembered, and the watch any new ones. Being behind, it meant i could see what was coming up in the number of sprues.
I'm leaving my art book sealed, keep the value up for when i sell it. I'm sure I will get over £20
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Post by: Samko
People reported that they got issue n°1 in France, but it doesn't seems to be available everywhere yet.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
It may well be the same 4 week trial we got in the UK (that was a small region of the country only in stores) and they're apparently having in Spain at the moment,
the full on launch was about 6 months later for us
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Post by: monarda
For those of us who foolishly weren't paying attention (or in my case misread the letter) what's the correct way of cancelling future artbooks?
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Post by: Aeneades
This is the only art book. The other three specials are apparently hardcover rule book, marine codex and death guard codex.
You can email customer services to ask to be removed from specials and that should be fine but you won’t havs the chance to opt in if you decide that you do want it. The usual process is they send you a letter in the preceding shipment advising what the special will be and giving you the opportunity to opt out.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Anyone know when the next binders are due to be sent out?
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Post by: Fictional
No idea, but I am expecting a letter telling me how much they will cost at least a month in advance.
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Post by: Danny76
Aeneades wrote:This is the only art book. The other three specials are apparently hardcover rule book, marine codex and death guard codex.
You can email customer services to ask to be removed from specials and that should be fine but you won’t havs the chance to opt in if you decide that you do want it. The usual process is they send you a letter in the preceding shipment advising what the special will be and giving you the opportunity to opt out.
We don’t know that you can’t opt back in if you for now opt out of all.
And the assumed others are technically just wishlisting about being Codex and such. We’ve had nothing from any source yet confirming or alluding.
Though I’m in that camp that I think it will be. Just there’s nothing to suggest it, could be anything.
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
Fictional wrote:
No idea, but I am expecting a letter telling me how much they will cost at least a month in advance.
I am pretty sure they cost £8, so the cost of a magazine.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
Was the first binder an opt-out, or was it just included?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Freebie for subscribers, ala the painting handle and stuff.
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Post by: Danny76
I have read somewhere they are £8 or £9, can’t remember where, it was somewhere in the faqs I think?
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edit - I may be mistaken in assuming there'd be more than one.
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Post by: Danny76
Someone in one of the Facebook groups emailed and I’m sure they’d said around now, that was a while back. And we’ve still not heard.
Letter next month I suppose..
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Danny76 wrote:I have read somewhere they are £8 or £9, can’t remember where, it was somewhere in the faqs I think?
Aye, IIRC £8 in the FAQ's.
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Post by: Casualty
My first delivery of 2019 arrived yesterday. Good ol Hachette lol
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Oh dear social media aren't pleased with the dread being split between two issues
(not helped by hatchet not being clear on it either especially if your a 1st time 40Ker)
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Post by: phillv85
Are people annoyed because they wanted £8 dreads though?
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Post by: beast_gts
That, and some of the promo material showed the full kit (with the missile pod on top).
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Post by: phillv85
Ah fair enough. I was gonna say if people were just kicking off because a Partworks is doing what a Partworks does, then they missed the point.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
beast_gts wrote:
That, and some of the promo material showed the full kit (with the missile pod on top).
There's a 240-issue partwork starting now that gives you a 1250mm 1:200 scale kit of the Bismark. Funnily enough, all the promo material shows that full kit too.
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Post by: deano2099
What's sort of interesting is that's £9 an issue, more than even Conquest, suggesting that a future part-work could have a more expensive price (which would possibly mean more options in what they can include).
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Post by: tneva82
AndrewGPaul wrote:beast_gts wrote:
That, and some of the promo material showed the full kit (with the missile pod on top).
There's a 240-issue partwork starting now that gives you a 1250mm 1:200 scale kit of the Bismark. Funnily enough, all the promo material shows that full kit too.
Huh= Getting off topic but what sort of deluxe kit that is? Googlign 1:200 bismarc got lots of kits in amazon for about 200-300 euro's so this over 2000£ seems rather expensive. What's so special in that kit to be worth THAT much money?
Suddenly GW games seems cheap
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Post by: beast_gts
AndrewGPaul wrote:beast_gts wrote:
That, and some of the promo material showed the full kit (with the missile pod on top).
There's a 240-issue partwork starting now that gives you a 1250mm 1:200 scale kit of the Bismark. Funnily enough, all the promo material shows that full kit too.
No, the full £40 kit (with the plasma incinerator option & Icarus rocket pod) rather than the £25 Easy To Build version.
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Post by: feugan
Has anyone seen the first Redmeptor issue in the wild at retail yet?
My local WHSmith had 4-5 copies of the preceding issue with Battlefield Accessories on Tue 12/3/19, then nothing at all on Wed 13/3/19. Surely soon?
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Post by: Aeneades
My work and home Smiths had no issues of the Battlefield Accessoriss (I tried to grab an extra copy with no luck). My work Smiths had one copy of the Redempter 1st part yesterday (They usually display at this branch from Monday but I wasn’t displayed until Wednesday this time).
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Should have been this Wed,
but all my locals were sold out by the time I got there after work, which was a first other than the Lord Felthius issue which seemed not to have been sent out in the expected quantities,
so either really popular (not a surprise especially if many thought they'd be getting the full kit), or another insufficient copies problem
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Post by: ListenToMeWarriors
There were three copies on my local Asda (Coventry) yesterday.
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Post by: phillv85
Forbidden Planet have dispatched mine
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Post by: deano2099
tneva82 wrote: AndrewGPaul wrote:beast_gts wrote:
That, and some of the promo material showed the full kit (with the missile pod on top).
There's a 240-issue partwork starting now that gives you a 1250mm 1:200 scale kit of the Bismark. Funnily enough, all the promo material shows that full kit too.
Huh= Getting off topic but what sort of deluxe kit that is? Googlign 1:200 bismarc got lots of kits in amazon for about 200-300 euro's so this over 2000£ seems rather expensive. What's so special in that kit to be worth THAT much money?
Suddenly GW games seems cheap 
It's actually only 140 issues so just over £1200. Still a rip off though, but then that's never (until now) been the point of these partworks. They provide you hobby stuff over time to put together weekly/monthly and spread the cost, but being good value has never been a selling point. The 40K one is weird in that respect. Though many would argue that's only because GW stuff is massively overpriced already.
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Post by: AndrewGPaul
The Bismark kit comes complete with motorised turrets and other rotating parts and lighting, I think; it's not just a plastic kit.
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Post by: filbert
deano2099 wrote:
It's actually only 140 issues so just over £1200. Still a rip off though, but then that's never (until now) been the point of these partworks. They provide you hobby stuff over time to put together weekly/monthly and spread the cost, but being good value has never been a selling point. The 40K one is weird in that respect. Though many would argue that's only because GW stuff is massively overpriced already.
Bizarre isn't it? We are at a situation where a 'collect this weekly' partworks represents a significant saving over buying it in one go direct from the manufacturer...
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Post by: Tavis75
Have to admit I am considering cancelling my sub, gives a nice saving but finding the models are just piling up (and I have plenty of other models I'm more likely to get round to finishing first). Do like getting a little box of hobby stuff each month but a lot of it is probably not stuff I'd choose to buy.
I'm also quite tempted by the Bismark and the 1/2 Scale Terminator that starts next week (also both Hachette, so they've shot themselves in the foot a bit there) as I feel I'm more likely to finish them as they're a bit of a change from GW stuff.
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Post by: MongooseMatt
Got a little question here...
We have already got three Reivers and, in the next batch of issues, we get another three - but these are also a Sergeant and two grunts.
In the leaked list of what is coming in future issues, there does not appear to be any more Reivers, which makes the models we have a bit... odd. As it stands, I would dump the Sergeant in the second batch, and end up with a full squad of 5.
Or have I mis-read that leaked list?
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Post by: Danny76
It’s because it’s the easy to build kit twice, it’s not aimed at making the units work in game or anything.
Though it will work doing it the way you say.
Same with the Intercessors, you end up with an odd amount.
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Post by: alphaecho
MongooseMatt wrote:Got a little question here...
We have already got three Reivers and, in the next batch of issues, we get another three - but these are also a Sergeant and two grunts.
In the leaked list of what is coming in future issues, there does not appear to be any more Reivers, which makes the models we have a bit... odd. As it stands, I would dump the Sergeant in the second batch, and end up with a full squad of 5.
Or have I mis-read that leaked list?
Conquest allows you to play with squad set ups that may not be legal in mainstream 40K.
I think the concept is that over the course of the partworks, the subscriber receives two self contained armies and a game system that does not require them to have any other contact with GW.
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Post by: leopard
was pondering here on getting a box of Reivers and using the ETB sergeant to lead a second unit, have two squads of eight, or maybe three of five.
side point, any ideas when another binder is likely to feature, the one I have here has 20 issues in it and is a bit full
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Post by: Danny76
I think the next delivery will be the one that has a letter about binders.
I was surprised it wasn’t the delivery with issue 20 in, as 4 binders of 20 per, seems about right..
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Post by: Bioptic
Is anyone keeping the painting and assembly instructions? The former is pretty useless unless you're genuinely new to the hobby and only have the paints supplied, and the latter genuinely useless after you've built the model. That's at least 2 binders saved! I've taken to tossing the back pages as well.
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Post by: Danny76
Ive kept the lot so far, still together in their issues just in the binder in fact. May get round to splitting by coloured section at some point..
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Recently split mine, but put all except the front and back cover in the binder. I'm keeping the build and paint instructions, as I have not done more with the primaris figures than put them in a box, until I decide what to do with them. I'm also not following the paint instructions for DG, but doing my own way. they may be inspiration later though....
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Post by: leopard
keeping the instructions, so that in say 30 years I can use my mind impulse link to the telepathic network to show gamers of the day that before the holographic animations they use we had to struggle with actual plastic, then explain what plastic was.
they won't believe a word of it of course
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
EXCLUSIVE REVEAL
Are you ready to explore the background of the daring and deadly Silver Templar?
This exclusive book will take an in-depth look at the heroes, battles, rituals and traditions of this new Space Marine Chapter and it is all yours, this May, dispatched alongside issues 39-42!
Watch out for more details with the dispatch before.
https://www.facebook.com/warhammer40000conquest/videos/242799233325866/
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Post by: Danny76
Unfortunately the wishlisting of special issues Of Rules, Codex & Codex can now be brushed away.
Still, Codex & Codex could still be a thing..
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Post by: Casualty
Feel like they could have done with giving the Silver Templars a bit more visual character if they're going to be the exemplar Primaris chapter... Nothing too overbearing, but their colour scheme and insignia feel a bit phoned in.
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Post by: Danny76
Interestingly Forbidden Planet has discounted issue 9, in case anyone wants any more ETB Poxwalkers
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Post by: leopard
Slightly surprised they didn't have a custom chapter from the get go, one specifically designed to work with a limited number of paints that are also useful on the DG, a silver based scheme seems ideal for that.
makes the Conquest! stuff slightly different from the rest of the game and they can finish off with custom chapter tactics etc for them and maybe a custom decal sheet.
seems a bit odd to have smurfs lead but then have this secondary lot as a focus in the magazine
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
It'll be because there will be very little artwork and painted Miniatures for this new chapter, using existing chapters means a host of GW licensed artwork and imagery ready to be copy pasted into each issue. For Deathguard the main art for them is green armour, so I suspect the idea behind continuing that is recognition.
P,us they already used green and blue plastics for ETB kits. Wouldn't be surprised if Dark Imperium eventually becomes coloured plastic.
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Post by: alphaecho
For those who are interested, Forbidden Planet have just updated their Conquest pages to include the covers for issues up to No 37.
These covers clash with the list published on page 45 of this thread, excerpt below:
27. Chaos rhino, part 1
28. Chaos rhino, part 2
29. primaris, captain, intercessor sergeant, inceptor sergeant & hellblaster sergeant
30. Ryza Ruins #1
31. Primaris apothecary
32. plasma conduits
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines
34. paint: gehenna’s gold & dawnstone
35. primaris chaplin
36. paint: leadbelcher, deathguard green, macragge blue
37. Ryza Ruins #2
38. plague surgeon & gaming mat
According to Forbidden Planet's published covers, issue 31 is Celestra Grey, with number 32 being the Apothecary. The Chaplain remains issue 35 as it appears the Gehenna's Gold and Dawnstone issue has been removed or moved later in the schedule.
Additionally, issue 33 from the list (now 34) is Plaguecasters and Blightbringers rather than the predicted Bloat Drone, Lord and Plague Marines.
Not important in the grand scheme of things unless you ordered blind from the Forbidden Planet site and have now had to cancel issue 31 and put a new order in for issue 32...like me...
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
I really think I'll be cancelling my sub.
Monthly model drops are nice, but I'm not, in the end, drawn to either army.
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Post by: Danny76
Cancelled order.
I wanted an issue of 33, but not those character models.
38 currently on order, but may be cancelled when covers come down the line..
Interesting that they’ve “changed” the order.
Or it was always this, and prior info was wrong (everything will be posted saying changed everywhere, but who knows..) Automatically Appended Next Post: So it looks like this now:
31. Primaris apothecary - PAINT
32. plasma conduits - APOTHECARY
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines - PLASMA CONDUITS
34. paint: gehenna’s gold & dawnstone - PLAGUECASTER SPRUE FROM DI
35. primaris chaplin - SAME
36. paint: leadbelcher, deathguard green, macragge blue - POSSIBLY SHADE PAINT
37. Ryza Ruins #2 - SAME
All bets are off for issues after that too..
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Post by: leopard
interesting the lists from that Spanish place are wrong, though a few of the paints they note vary between Spanish and British editions.
doesn't matter massively but its interesting the order is being shaken up (or the Spanish website has the order wrong)
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Post by: alphaecho
leopard wrote:interesting the lists from that Spanish place are wrong, though a few of the paints they note vary between Spanish and British editions.
doesn't matter massively but its interesting the order is being shaken up (or the Spanish website has the order wrong)
Then again, the translated list could be correct for the Spanish version.
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Post by: Danny76
Or they just got given a big list and collated wrong, or thought that was the order so posted it. Or something like that.
I doubt it’s changed as it was probably made well in advance.
So must be something somewhere along the line (and Hachette have never switched up issues for barious language prints before).
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Or GW has found it cant supply the sprues for X in time but can supply Y (depending on the demands on different sizes of casting machines) etc so they're having to shuffle stuff a bit?
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Post by: Danny76
I guess it depends how much this was prepared in advance.
Is it all made and they are just releasing.
Or are they writing as they go.
I’d imagine, particularly looking at their partworks in general that it’s all created first, so they know what happens when etc.
as it’s building on next paint added, to all models received so far, and all that kind of thing..
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Post by: beast_gts
Has anyone else not had their February subscription money taken yet (before I start wasting time chasing Hachette)?
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Post by: Nultaar
beast_gts wrote:Has anyone else not had their February subscription money taken yet (before I start wasting time chasing Hachette)?
Nope nothing for Feb yet on my account.
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Post by: Danny76
Bit early to start chasing though I’d say.
I’ll check mine now though to see Automatically Appended Next Post: Nope nothing yet.
This is free brush delivery for those who started out.
So that’s something good to come..
Also I suppose that could be the delay for some reason too..
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Post by: Aeneades
Nothing on my account yet (I was 21st last month and 14th in December). The payments seem to take a few days to appear and then back date themselves in the transaction log so I suspect I have been charged but it hasn’t filtered through yet.
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Post by: Danny76
Yeah that’s definitely the case.
One month I remember looking on there on the 25th for nothing, then on the 26th it said all those issues with 19/21st on there
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