Is this the easy-to-build terminator lord on the left down side of the DG army? So the only new unit is the UM hero with the scabbard?
Also this looks like the result from 100 or so issues (if they spread the sprues like Deagostini did). The UM also get the 2 scout team variations and even the Calth box heroes. And the DG gets all the 15 pound dudes, but also gets the easy-to-build PM and the chaos cultists twice. What a mix.
Is this the easy-to-build terminator lord on the left down side of the DG army? So the only new unit is the UM hero with the scabbard?
Also this looks like the result from 100 or so issues (if they spread the sprues like Deagostini did). The UM also get the 2 scout team variations and even the Calth box heroes. And the DG gets all the 15 pound dudes, but also gets the easy-to-build PM and the chaos cultists twice. What a mix.
Lord Felthius yeah he’s in there.
Only new model we know of is the UM guy yeah.
It’s 80 issues. We don’t know if they are spreading sprues, though the wording somewhere at one point was Most issues have models, so I’m guessing a couple of issues may not of the one before had a big kit (how they will deal with that for non subscribers just picking single issues I don’t know, but for the £32 a month here is 4 issues guys, it’s easy enough to manage)
gilljoy wrote: Back when Battle games in middle earth was a thing, you got the horses in one issue, and the riders next issue
I think Hachette may be planning some special issues if the survey that was available at the trial run indicated that potential subscribers were favourable.
I remember BGiME had movie editions for The Two Towers and The Return Of The King that fell outside of the numbered weekly issues. The figures that came with those issues, if I recall correctly, were the metal Gandalf on Shadowfax and mounted Aragorn respectively. That was DeAgostini but if it worked for them...
There are some special ones. 4 throughout. You pay extra on top of your £32 that month.
Ignoring LotR one as it was a different company, but they did it with their Black Library magazines
I’ve a complete run of the Dredd Megacollection, and am around 1/3rd of the way through the 2000AD Ultimate Collection, and neither had/has such extras?
2000AD has them. They are collections of covers with larger dimensions, the first came a couple of months ago (you should have had a letter in the delivery before letting you opt out if you didn't want it).
JWBS wrote: Does anyone know if the "Starter" brush is indicative of GW brush quality these days? I haven't used a GW brush in decades and I'm looking forward to testing this, but the "Starter" brand leads me to believe it's not a great brush (for reference I use W&N Cirrus, for anyone familiar with those, though I doubt there will be as they seem increasingly rare these days).
The brush is absolutely the worst thing in the magazine. My advice would be throw it straight in the bin. Along with the "painting guide" - shocking that it advises to paint straight on to unprepped, unprimed plastic, and use a tiny brush to basecoat. Almost guarantees a crappy finish to your paint work and if it's your first attempt, complete disenchantment. Apart from that, good product.
I also have a pot of Humbrol yellow enamel for the odd occasions where I want a no-nonsense strong yellow. Enamel and the thinners you need with it kill brushes.
I’ve a complete run of the Dredd Megacollection, and am around 1/3rd of the way through the 2000AD Ultimate Collection, and neither had/has such extras?
For clarity, I’m not doubting!
An art book was one in that set. Covers I think
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Way back that was the GW way, the first coat was a paint on primer, and these base ones work in a similar way. So it’s not too far into the realms of odd.
That’s why it says paint the whole model that colour, not just the armour.
I’m sure they’ll go into priming in a later one anyway probably.
Aeneades wrote: Previously, if you don't have payment details on the system they will still send the issues to you on credit and you can then pay them off upon receipt via the website. I am not certain if they use the same system here.
Ended up doing that for a previous graphic novel collection after my standing order was somehow cancelled and I couldn't be bothered to go through the hassle of sorting it back out.
Once you are 2 deliveries behind they will stop sending more issues until you pay (I forgot to pay until a chaser later turned up every single time).
Issue 1 has an offer in it for issues 2+3 plus the hobby kit all for 4.99 delivered and an option is given on the form for "invoice me later" , I used it because this offer is only usable with the paper form and I wasn't going to put my card details into the postal system! With stuff like this it's the best way as once you cancel, and have proof, then if they continue to send stuff to you it's legally yours. Obviously you have to abide by the stated notice period but after that, if they carry on sending, you've got free stuff.
Can you post a pic of it - I don't seem to have that?
Please remember the painting guides are also partworks.
For example the pages on painting intercessors says that in the next issue we will talk about painting the blue face of the sergeantt. Yes the next issue has Death Guard Green in it, the next Imperial favoured issue has Leadbelcher It is likely to be the next issue on painting intercessors that carries on that part of the guide..
The Intercessor painting guide recommends an Undercoat of Macragge Blue over the entire miniature, not just painting the armour Macragge blue. While sprays are better with Citadel basecoats over plastic is not unsound.
Later there may well be a preview page in the painting guide on spray undercoating.
Keep in mind that the partwork must split the articles themselves over several issues, so don't laugh at the painting guide yet, it may come together as a reasonable whole.
Also while paint on primer is wasteful you get three pots of Macragge blue in the full painting set, and three pots of Death Guard Green.
Besides if you watch Warhammer TV you will know that while the guides are good thery are wasteful both in terms of number of paints used and how they are used.
The Warhammer TV guides leave the tops open while painting (bad for a plethora of reasons and also use a dry palette for mixing. All in all the the prime lesson repeated is how to waste paint.
Can you spoiler tag the image, it plays havoc on phones and iPads, cheers
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Orlanth wrote: Please remember the painting guides are also partworks.
For example the pages on painting intercessors says that in the next issue we will talk about painting the blue face of the sergeantt. Yes the next issue has Death Guard Green in it, the next Imperial favoured issue has Leadbelcher It is likely to be the next issue on painting intercessors that carries on that part of the guide..
The Intercessor painting guide recommends an Undercoat of Macragge Blue over the entire miniature, not just painting the armour Macragge blue. While sprays are better with Citadel basecoats over plastic is not unsound.
Later there may well be a preview page in the painting guide on spray undercoating.
Keep in mind that the partwork must split the articles themselves over several issues, so don't laugh at the painting guide yet, it may come together as a reasonable whole.
Also while paint on primer is wasteful you get three pots of Macragge blue in the full painting set, and three pots of Death Guard Green.
Besides if you watch Warhammer TV you will know that while the guides are good thery are wasteful both in terms of number of paints used and how they are used.
The Warhammer TV guides leave the tops open while painting (bad for a plethora of reasons and also use a dry palette for mixing. All in all the the prime lesson repeated is how to waste paint.
Yeah that’s what I was saying, it’s still an undercoat, just paint on. Some people still do it that way, though I don’t see why
Aeneades wrote: Previously, if you don't have payment details on the system they will still send the issues to you on credit and you can then pay them off upon receipt via the website. I am not certain if they use the same system here.
Ended up doing that for a previous graphic novel collection after my standing order was somehow cancelled and I couldn't be bothered to go through the hassle of sorting it back out.
Once you are 2 deliveries behind they will stop sending more issues until you pay (I forgot to pay until a chaser later turned up every single time).
Issue 1 has an offer in it for issues 2+3 plus the hobby kit all for 4.99 delivered and an option is given on the form for "invoice me later" , I used it because this offer is only usable with the paper form and I wasn't going to put my card details into the postal system! With stuff like this it's the best way as once you cancel, and have proof, then if they continue to send stuff to you it's legally yours. Obviously you have to abide by the stated notice period but after that, if they carry on sending, you've got free stuff.
Can you post a pic of it - I don't seem to have that?
Did you buy it in shop? This offer was on the big backing card I think, so subscription copies didn’t have it on
Did you buy it in shop? This offer was on the big backing card I think, so subscription copies didn’t have it on
I did buy it in store but have since given everything but the models away and don't remember seeing the offer - must not have been very observant it if was on the backing card.
I am just interested in the Space Marine issues and that offer works out better for me as I would get the hobby kit and issue 3 for £4.99 plus a bunch of deathguard to sell on ebay.
People that have subscribed, did you get issue 2 and the hobby kit with your delivery or was it sent by itself?
Did you buy it in shop? This offer was on the big backing card I think, so subscription copies didn’t have it on
I did buy it in store but have since given everything but the models away and don't remember seeing the offer - must not have been very observant it if was on the backing card.
I am just interested in the Space Marine issues and that offer works out better for me as I would get the hobby kit and issue 3 for £4.99 plus a bunch of deathguard to sell on ebay.
People that have subscribed, did you get issue 2 and the hobby kit with your delivery or was it sent by itself?
Each delivery will contain four issues at once. Except the first which contains two. You get your gifts with the appropriate delivery, so if you subscribe your first delivery is issue 1, issue 2, plus glue clippers and a mould line remover.
Your next delivery four weeks later will contain issues 3, 4, 5 and 6, with no extra gift. Though issue 3 is free to subscribers.
You third delivery and other four weeks later will contain issues 7-10 and the blinder for your magazines as a gift.
If follows on monthly from there, you will complete the run in February to March 2020.
Saw this in the local newsagents. Brought all three copies on the shelf, £6 for 9 pots of paint and 3 basic brush's was too good of a deal.
I love the idea of the collection ( I'm 133 issues into a star trek model one) but primaris and cartoon nurgle models just aren't my thing. If this had been classic marine's I'd have been all over it.
Might pick up the odd issue if the local newsagent continues to stock it, when things like the land speeder / bikes appear.
Maybe if this is successful we will see AoS or LOTR collections which are more appealing.
So, with the discount this seems to give, how is GW & Hatchett making their money off of this? Are the retail models that overpriced or is there some background cost that will kick in with the later issues where they will make their money back?
The maths indicates a total saving of around 30-40% on retail. That should leave room for profits for both companies, and maybe a legacy of new plastic crack addicts.
Stormonu wrote: So, with the discount this seems to give, how is GW & Hatchett making their money off of this? Are the retail models that overpriced or is there some background cost that will kick in with the later issues where they will make their money back?
First few issues give a steep discount but after that the discount is much less. Considering the cost of the raw materials and the efficiency savings in large production runs for the models (ie fewer retooling stages between manufacturing sprues as they are bulk producing lots of the same) they will still be making money. For GW it is an entry point as well. If kids get the bug they will want more - paints, whatever cool model they saw in WD etc. If GW just break even an Hachette make all the profit they will still have “won”.
The first issue is a loss leader to get people hooked. Indeed the first couple of issues in the subscription with all the free gifts probably are as well.
After that you have to remember the average model sprue contains about half a pence of plastic in it. At £7.99 there is a huge profit margin in these magazines.
Indeed, considering the kits will all have had their molds paid for by now from sales, plastic is cheap.
And the aim is bringing lots more into the hobby, so long run it’s worthwhile for them.
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Tamereth wrote: Saw this in the local newsagents. Brought all three copies on the shelf, £6 for 9 pots of paint and 3 basic brush's was too good of a deal.
I love the idea of the collection ( I'm 133 issues into a star trek model one) but primaris and cartoon nurgle models just aren't my thing. If this had been classic marine's I'd have been all over it.
Might pick up the odd issue if the local newsagent continues to stock it, when things like the land speeder / bikes appear.
Maybe if this is successful we will see AoS or LOTR collections which are more appealing.
It doesn’t stay in stores, though you can order issues from their website (and potentially it seems Forbiden Planet).
And people have been asking if they’ll do AoS and they said if this does well which is our focus now, then we’d love to move into other game settings.
Though that’s Conquest staff, I guess they have no say, it’s GW’s choice
Couple of things, anyone know when the next issues are out to subscribers and secondly, how does one go about upgrading one's subscription to premium? I presume it is a case of emailing Hachette?
filbert wrote: Couple of things, anyone know when the next issues are out to subscribers and secondly, how does one go about upgrading one's subscription to premium? I presume it is a case of emailing Hachette?
You can begin a premium subscription by subscribing here and selecting the premium subscription option. If you have already begun your subscription but wish to upgrade to a premium subscription, you can do so before you reach Issue 05. In order to upgrade, please contact our Customer Service Team.
Found in the FAQ (that's strangely on the Contact page)
Want to get more from your Warhammer 40,000: Conquest playing experience? We've got the offer for you. For an extra £1.50 per issue, you'll receive 4 premium kits that each include:
- Conquest Storage Box
- Data Cards
- Conquest Dice
- Punch Tokens
- Heavy Duty Play Mat
nobody's got a straight answer to exactly what's in the first one above other than that pic/text, and no info on what's going to be in the other 3
Want to get more from your Warhammer 40,000: Conquest playing experience? We've got the offer for you. For an extra £1.50 per issue, you'll receive 4 premium kits that each include:
- Conquest Storage Box
- Data Cards
- Conquest Dice
- Punch Tokens
- Heavy Duty Play Mat
nobody's got a straight answer to exactly what's in the first one above other than that pic/text, and no info on what's going to be in the other 3
Oh ok. I went and looked and then thought that they were the 4 premium bits (Dice, tokens, cards, and mats), but if all that is just one of the four extras it seems good value so far for newbies.
A few observations from someone new to the 40K game, but not painting GW miniatures...
1. They've talked about these Silver Templars as a new chapter exclusive to the magazine, and yet the first bunch of painting guides has us painting Ultramarines. I wonder if the guide will pivot at some point and switch focus to Silver Templars? Perhaps that's why get a second set of Reivers, and why there's more points in space marines than death guard in the full set? (And maybe why we didn't get a UItramarines transfer sheet). On the other hand, going fully down the Silver Templar route would necessitate a lot of entirely new content in terms of painting guides, artwork and fluff. Which makes it seem less likely.
2. The images suggest that all the sprues will be in appropriately coloured plastic. Not just the First Strike ones. If this actually is the case then we know that these sprues are being produced specifically for the magazine, not just being sourced from warehoused Dark Imperium etc. sprues. Obviously just producing coloured plastic versions is ridiculously simple compared to messing with the sprue layout as you don't need a new mold, but at the same time it suggests other changes are not impossible.
3. The point of the premium sub looks very much around making the contents into a standalone game: the big box, the dice, the cards and tokens - it strikes me as stuff for people that want to collect and put together something that works independently and less for those that want to "get in to the hobby" - if we get anything else, I'd expect it to be along those lines. Plastic range rulers rather than full Codexes.
Stormonu wrote:So, with the discount this seems to give, how is GW & Hatchett making their money off of this? Are the retail models that overpriced or is there some background cost that will kick in with the later issues where they will make their money back?
Exactly the same way that the Start Collecting boxes work combined with not having to run a retail store to sell the magazines.
Once you eliminate some of the overheads, things make more profit.
deano2099 wrote:1. They've talked about these Silver Templars as a new chapter exclusive to the magazine, and yet the first bunch of painting guides has us painting Ultramarines. I wonder if the guide will pivot at some point and switch focus to Silver Templars? Perhaps that's why get a second set of Reivers, and why there's more points in space marines than death guard in the full set? (And maybe why we didn't get a UItramarines transfer sheet). On the other hand, going fully down the Silver Templar route would necessitate a lot of entirely new content in terms of painting guides, artwork and fluff. Which makes it seem less likely.
It might be the Silver Templars are just going to be used in the "story" parts of the magazine, rather than as part of the painting.
Maybe theyre going to include articles about stripping the paint and starting again, but I doubt that.
Some years ago I subscribed to a magazine that built a robot in parts, more than once they had you fit things together only to have to take it apart later because there was a new module with new code in.
Is anyone who's subscribed to this still waiting for their first delivery? I paid almost 2 weeks ago but nothing yet. My instagram is full of folks who've received theirs.
Dont think this is going to be like a Premium upgrade in a pledge manager where you get more. Premiummfor partworks is for whales, you get not a lot for a serious price upgrade. Those who are savvy to component cost effectiveness should not buy premium. Those who want the experience of the subcription run rather thna just the % savings, then Premium may be for you and my advice should be discarded if it boosts your customer experience.
Maybe this should help you.
If you buyy 40K Legends series from Hachette you get hardback novels at £10 each.
If you pay £1 more you get six limited edition art prints.
Thus for £10 you get a Black Library book, for approx £60 - £80 or the amount of the length of the run you get six A4 art prints.
Meanwhile if you subscribe you get oen book free, and A3 galactic map a notebook an =I= tankard and some coasters, and you get that upgrade for free.
Subscription is worth it for anyone, premium is for whales.
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Dont think this is going to be like a Premium upgrade in a pledge manager where you get more. Premiummfor partworks is for whales, you get not a lot for a serious price upgrade. Those who are savvy to component cost effectiveness should not buy premium. Those who want the experience of the subcription run rather thna just the % savings, then Premium may be for you and my advice should be discarded if it boosts your customer experience.
Maybe this should help you.
If you buyy 40K Legends series from Hachette you get hardback novels at £10 each.
If you pay £1 more you get six limited edition art prints.
Thus for £10 you get a Black Library book, for approx £60 - £80 or the amount of the length of the run you get six A4 art prints.
Meanwhile if you subscribe you get oen book free, and A3 galactic map a notebook an =I= tankard and some coasters, and you get that upgrade for free.
Subscription is worth it for anyone, premium is for whales.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Is anyone who's subscribed to this still waiting for their first delivery? I paid almost 2 weeks ago but nothing yet. My instagram is full of folks who've received theirs.
Received mine at the weekend,
Will be worth sending them an email rather than phoning,
Yeah I'm not planning on getting the whole lot as I don't need armies cluttering my house, but I want the extras so will probably cancel after getting the painting handle thing. I'll give them a few more days as it did say within 28 days on the email.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Is anyone who's subscribed to this still waiting for their first delivery? I paid almost 2 weeks ago but nothing yet. My instagram is full of folks who've received theirs.
Snap! mines not arrived yet either though it could be because im starting on issue 2 (i hope) as with you paid a couole of weeks ago but no show yet.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Is anyone who's subscribed to this still waiting for their first delivery? I paid almost 2 weeks ago but nothing yet. My instagram is full of folks who've received theirs.
Snap! mines not arrived yet either though it could be because im starting on issue 2 (i hope) as with you paid a couole of weeks ago but no show yet.
+1 for not received yet, thought I was the only one.
I'm going to give it till the weekend before chasing.
Danny76 wrote: As to delivery two for issues 3-6, pretty much 28days time from tomorrow. (Edit: from Wednesday 12th)
As that’s issue 6’s release date.
It may be sooner than that, some of the partworks I've done have sent out the subscriber issues the same week as the first issue in the batch goes on sale in the shops, others it's been in the middle of the group of issues, though more commonly it appears to be basically random with the delivery varying by weeks every month, though they're always very efficient at taking the payments regularly!
phillv85 wrote: The maths indicates a total saving of around 30-40% on retail. That should leave room for profits for both companies, and maybe a legacy of new plastic crack addicts.
This.
Anyone riding it out for the full 80 Issue run is very unlikely to stop there, or wait for completion before buying bits and bobs off the shelf.
The actual cost involved for Hachette is pretty minimal. There’s not a great deal to each of the issues individually, so the main sink is the cost of the models. Now there’s clearly an arrangement there, but we’ve nowhere near enough info or knowledge to really speculate. Suffice to say, they won’t be running this at a loss by design.
As for GW? This should bring new blood to no only their website, but their stores. People invested in the Partwork are then shown and tempted by the whole range - and not just Marines and Deathguard.
To use myself as an example. I’m keen to actually paint this collection. And to game with it, I’ll be needing the Deathguard Codex. That alone is at least one can of Deathguard Green, one can of Ultramarine Blue (unless I do a different chapter), and £25 for the Codex. That’s £50 or so I wasn’t previously planning to chuck GW’s way. Once I’ve got the DG Codex, who knows? I may just stick with the collection’s contents, or decide to add to it.
It only official launched in the UK 13 days so you are looking at a wait of at least several months before it launches anywhere else.
It may not be released in the US at all.
Whilst Hachette does operate internationally, previous collections (for me, Dredd and 2000AD) haven’t been given a US release. Oz, NZ and Europe yes.
Of course, it’s arguable that 2000AD as a stable isn’t especially well know in the US (it’s very, very British. Quite different to Marvel and D.C.), so the market there would be a harder sell. Games Workshop (whilst also very, very British) is a different kettle of fish in terms of worldwide knowledge etc.
Never say never, I guess. But I wouldn’t hold your breath.
I believe you mean Death Guard Green base paint, and in addition to the three Plague Marines you get six d6 and a small fold out battlemat made from thin card.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Is anyone who's subscribed to this still waiting for their first delivery? I paid almost 2 weeks ago but nothing yet. My instagram is full of folks who've received theirs.
Snap! mines not arrived yet either though it could be because im starting on issue 2 (i hope) as with you paid a couole of weeks ago but no show yet.
+1 for not received yet, thought I was the only one.
I'm going to give it till the weekend before chasing.
I believe as per faq or comment somewhere you have to wait 28 days to bring that up though
Danny76 wrote: As to delivery two for issues 3-6, pretty much 28days time from tomorrow. (Edit: from Wednesday 12th)
As that’s issue 6’s release date.
It may be sooner than that, some of the partworks I've done have sent out the subscriber issues the same week as the first issue in the batch goes on sale in the shops, others it's been in the middle of the group of issues, though more commonly it appears to be basically random with the delivery varying by weeks every month, though they're always very efficient at taking the payments regularly!
That’s great if so, I was thinking that’s the way they should do it so subscribers are better off than people who order weekly ones.
Not received mine yet but I only subbed at the beginning of last week so I'm not worried. Picked up issue 2 in the shop today form some extra plague marines.
Wow I was visiting family and walked into a rural newsagent that had six copies of issue one having not sold any. So I bought them all. One for me and one for my each member of my gaming group as a gift... they were all very pleased when I told them.
Good work on the sharing. Issue one is still showing up in places, my local Asda had two copies in on Monday morning, they were gone by the time I showed up for my shift Tuesday night.
I think the tutorials on playing in issue 2 are great for beginners, a really basic outline with clear pointers of depth to come in future issues.
Local supermarkets here don't even have space for it, was thinking of a few more of the first two issues but its not worth the time to wander round to find them.
its on subscription, they have yet to take for the first two though so guessing they won't be arriving this week...
Yeah I tried loads of venues first but with no luck... it was by sheer chance I stumbled across this isolated haul of blessed archeotech. It was then I knew that the God-Emperor was with me!
Legiocustodes wrote: Wow I was visiting family and walked into a rural newsagent that had six copies of issue one having not sold any. So I bought them all. One for me and one for my each member of my gaming group as a gift... they were all very pleased when I told them.
Nice attitude, better than the c-words who clear out a shop to put them on ebay.
Legiocustodes wrote: Wow I was visiting family and walked into a rural newsagent that had six copies of issue one having not sold any. So I bought them all. One for me and one for my each member of my gaming group as a gift... they were all very pleased when I told them.
Nice attitude, better than the c-words who clear out a shop to put them on ebay.
Cheers mate!! Yeah I agree; it’s bang out of order. I’m pleased to share the wealth with my fellow gamers rather than profit off them!
I picked up my initial copy of issue 1 in Forbidden Planet. Grabbed issue 2 in there yesterday and they had a stack more of issue 1 so grabbed another copy of that.
Spoke to the guy in there and he said as far as he knew they'd be stocking it for the entire run in store so that's probably a good avenue for people to check for it. I'm not getting every issue - don't want issue 4 already for example but I do want issue 3. Just going to grab them as I fancy.
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Or wait and enjoy the surprise each month..
first delivery today, issues 1 & 2, apparently they will be taking the DD in a few weeks which is odd but whatever.
would be nice to have an idea in one package when the next one is due, a minor point though.
All arrived without the huge backing card which also makes sense, the little mould line removal tool is actually pretty good, better than expected, a knife is still easier for fiddly ones but this will be used a fair bit.
don't care about the glue, I prefer a brush on liquid one, new cutters are useful though.
now have three death guard of my very own (Mrs L isn't having them so there...)
I'm pretty sure mine arrived last weekend, but as it arrived when I was out, I've got a card from the Royal Mail; I'll go and collect it tomorrow morning.
leopard wrote: first delivery today, issues 1 & 2, apparently they will be taking the DD in a few weeks which is odd but whatever.
would be nice to have an idea in one package when the next one is due, a minor point though.
All arrived without the huge backing card which also makes sense, the little mould line removal tool is actually pretty good, better than expected, a knife is still easier for fiddly ones but this will be used a fair bit.
don't care about the glue, I prefer a brush on liquid one, new cutters are useful though.
now have three death guard of my very own (Mrs L isn't having them so there...)
woo!
I think going forward we will know when the next is due each time as a regular pattern will emerge when they are 4 per delivery
leopard wrote: first delivery today, issues 1 & 2, apparently they will be taking the DD in a few weeks which is odd but whatever.
would be nice to have an idea in one package when the next one is due, a minor point though.
All arrived without the huge backing card which also makes sense, the little mould line removal tool is actually pretty good, better than expected, a knife is still easier for fiddly ones but this will be used a fair bit.
don't care about the glue, I prefer a brush on liquid one, new cutters are useful though.
now have three death guard of my very own (Mrs L isn't having them so there...)
woo!
I think going forward we will know when the next is due each time as a regular pattern will emerge when they are 4 per delivery
this is pretty likely really, all seems a bit hectic at the moment
khimbar wrote: There are still three part ones left in Halifax, WH Smiths as of about lunchtime today, in case people are still looking for them.
First post here. I am one of the new people who have picked this up to have a look and am thinking about starting playing.
So, hello.
Good on you, hope you stick around - this forum can be a great source of inspiration and aspiration. You are exactly the person that GW is targeting with this part-work so I hope it proves fruitful. Ultimately, the more new people who get involved in our shared love of geekery, the better and richer the game will be.
And just like that Issue 2 is selling out. Walked past a newsagents in Canary Wharf shopping centre on my to work and they had a dozen or so copies - 8 hours later, all gone, who knew that bankers were also 40k gamers...
Ruglud wrote: And just like that Issue 2 is selling out. Walked past a newsagents in Canary Wharf shopping centre on my to work and they had a dozen or so copies - 8 hours later, all gone, who knew that bankers were also 40k gamers...
Ruglud wrote: And just like that Issue 2 is selling out. Walked past a newsagents in Canary Wharf shopping centre on my to work and they had a dozen or so copies - 8 hours later, all gone, who knew that bankers were also 40k gamers...
I know an ex board member of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, loves his wargaming.
Plenty of copies in my local Asda, I think this one is a bit of a harder sell because of the increased price (stating the obvious) and the Plague Marines are a bit more of a pain to convert if you have multiples. Not so bad if you have some spare bits from the multi part Plague Marines. I have converted the champion model into a heavy plague Spewer marine.
Here’s how I made 6 different models from two sets of Conquest.
Only a few extra bits used. These aren’t fully cleaned up but are mostly done. The plasma gun came from the leader’s backpack, and I replaced the missing vents with those from a spare Marine backpack. I’ll mix with my Dark Imperium ones and add a single extra Bolter dude for 2 x 7-man squads.
For anyone interested, I received my issues 3 and 4 today, confirming the ultra marines captain comes in issue 5 and another set of the ETB plague marines are in issue 6.
sainted75 wrote: For anyone interested, I received my issues 3 and 4 today, confirming the ultra marines captain comes in issue 5 and another set of the ETB plague marines are in issue 6.
sainted75 wrote: For anyone interested, I received my issues 3 and 4 today, confirming the ultra marines captain comes in issue 5 and another set of the ETB plague marines are in issue 6.
Hi!, what Plague Marines are the ETB ones in issue 6? any pictures in the magazine? Cheers!
I kind of wonder if the repreats coming this early is designed to deprive those subscribing only for the Lieutenant of some extra awesome deals? Personally I’m ok with. Just an excuse for me to quickly wrap up these two squads with an extra box of Death Guard
I suppose so yeah, then the better stuff comes in time.
Just need to find someone who wants to buy the ETB Plague Marines. Two sets too many I already had those guys twice..
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also note, 5 and 6, no paints for our first time.
As we know only 30 odd paints so less than half will have a paint..
I used to work in the magazine trade so have a bit of knowledge on partworks.
To start with part works are sale or return for the stores, so they can send back any unsold to the distributor for full credit. Once they reach a certain issue, normally issue 5, they become firm sale which means retailers can not return any unsold for credit. This is normally the point at which retailer wont stock the copies unless they have firm orders from customers as all of the risk belongs to the stores. Of course forbidden planet may stock them and hope to sell them but most regular newsagents and stores will stop holding stock from issue 5 onwards.
Subscribed to this with my friend. I collect Death Guard and he's Blood Angels so it made sense.
Gotta say though, I'm feeling envious here. He gets a swanky new character model in issue 5 and we get... duplication in issue 6.
Been scanning the large pic frantically to see if we get any new special toys... anyone notice anything? I can't seem to find a high res pic which doesn't crumble when you zoom.
The only exclusive is that Lieutenant. Still, swap the arms on the death guard squad leader and grenadier and you've got five unique poses, it's not that bad. I'm pretty sure there'll be some duplicate Marines too.
IMHO it is better to order through your local newsagent than to subscribe which is what I've decided to do.
Trying to pick up issue one was difficult, so I ordered a couple extra direct from Hachette's shop. It has not gone well.
No despatch notification
Paid for express delivery but took about a fortnight to arrive
Only received a single copy of issue one (not the extra I ordered) and the flimsy polythene envelope meant the magazine's corners were dinged up
No automatic refund for the unsent item
Hachette "customer service" via telephone is a very hit and miss affair
Still waiting
Fair enough Hachette may be overwhelmed with the initial demand but they don't inspire confidence. If GW had been able to run this directly I would have no qualms about subscribing.
A weekly walk to my newsagent is no hardship. I don't need the sub freebies anyway and I do need fresh air and exercise.
I picked up issue 3 this morning on the plus side they got rid of the backing card and the miniatures are in a proper box downside it cost €11.20 rather than the €9.99 I was expecting I guess the retailer set the price themselves and I have no alternative so it’s take it or leave it. Won’t be subbing to get the €9.99 price as I’m only interested in a few bits a pieces along by the way and if the retailer drops it after issue 4 that’s that.
Still cheaper than €15.30 that the contents normally cost.
CodeKantorBlue wrote: IMHO it is better to order through your local newsagent than to subscribe which is what I've decided to do.
Trying to pick up issue one was difficult, so I ordered a couple extra direct from Hachette's shop. It has not gone well.
No despatch notification
Paid for express delivery but took about a fortnight to arrive
Only received a single copy of issue one (not the extra I ordered) and the flimsy polythene envelope meant the magazine's corners were dinged up
No automatic refund for the unsent item
Hachette "customer service" via telephone is a very hit and miss affair
Still waiting
Fair enough Hachette may be overwhelmed with the initial demand but they don't inspire confidence. If GW had been able to run this directly I would have no qualms about subscribing.
A weekly walk to my newsagent is no hardship. I don't need the sub freebies anyway and I do need fresh air and exercise.
Similar to my experience.
Took ages to arrive, and of the ordered 10 (Loot Group, not greed!) I received 1.
I've been in touch over email, and am just checking for a response now....nope, no further response since I gave them extra info.
Ruglud wrote: And just like that Issue 2 is selling out. Walked past a newsagents in Canary Wharf shopping centre on my to work and they had a dozen or so copies - 8 hours later, all gone, who knew that bankers were also 40k gamers...
I work there too!
Well, Marsh Wall.
Hah, small world... Columbus Courtyard for me
Ahh, I know it. My coach picks me up from the bus stop just outside
Well, I ordered a few copies of issue 1 online, they sent one... the others still haven't shown up, probably won't at this rate and the customer service is non-existent, all emails and facebook messages get ignored.
Specifically bought them online because I didn't want to be TFG clearing out the stores so the kids can't get a copy.
I might have to go complain to GW at this rate, try to get my 10 quid back.
AndrewGPaul wrote:Might as well complain to Marks and Spencer, for all the relevance that'll have. You'd be better off raising it with your credit card company or bank.
I disagree. GW do care about customer service and those with GW licenses have obligations. This is a physical product produced by GW (the models and paints), backed up with a big ad spend and an ongoing youtube series via the official GW channel. Having a licensee not return money for undelivered goods is something GW would care about.
At the end of the day I don't really care that I didn't get some extra models on the cheap, I don't expect to get any more issue one. I do care that Hachette took my money and have yet to refund the difference.
I'll give Hachette a little more time, before going to GW. I'll give them the opportunity to make it right. Raising the issue with the bank is the nuclear option and should only be taken when all else fails.
Did wonder on upgrading to the premium subscription, after two days of being unable to actually talk to anyone on a phone line that allows me to speak to them I gave up
AndrewGPaul wrote:Might as well complain to Marks and Spencer, for all the relevance that'll have. You'd be better off raising it with your credit card company or bank.
I disagree. GW do care about customer service and those with GW licenses have obligations. This is a physical product produced by GW (the models and paints), backed up with a big ad spend and an ongoing youtube series via the official GW channel. Having a licensee not return money for undelivered goods is something GW would care about.
At the end of the day I don't really care that I didn't get some extra models on the cheap, I don't expect to get any more issue one. I do care that Hachette took my money and have yet to refund the difference.
I'll give Hachette a little more time, before going to GW. I'll give them the opportunity to make it right. Raising the issue with the bank is the nuclear option and should only be taken when all else fails.
True, that any complaints from GW might mean they raise them with Hachette. However, I don't think you'll get any direct recompense from GW, and GW are definitely the junior partner in this collaboration.
Not sure how that affects people that have already ordered it but certainly it's now no longer available to order.
It has been since week one.
But you can still subscribe from one onwards.
I’d assume it’s a different allocation, which may mean more are printing currently.
Those that are saying they ordered 4 etc did so before it was sold out so should still get, that’s why I created my theory as to why, but who knows
We would like to apologise for the problems some people have been experiencing over the last few weeks with their online shop orders.
Due to overwhelming demand of issue 1, we experienced severe stock shortages. Extra stock has now been received and we are processing all outstanding orders over the course of the weekend to be dispatched as priority next week. We are aware that some people who ordered multiple copies have only received one copy so far and that other people who ordered a single copy have also not received their order. We would like to reassure you all that you will receive your full order from the new stock received.
We would also like to apologise to people who have experienced problems getting through to our customer services. We have received a huge volume of queries and are doing our best to get back to everyone as soon as possible. In the meantime, please bear with us and rest assured we are aware of your query.
Again, please be assured we are doing everything we can to get magazines out to everyone who has ordered them. We expect things to calm down over the next couple of weeks as we get over the initial rush of orders. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Thing is if Hatchette had used common sense and admitted the shortage of issue 1 earlier, or not allowed people to order copies that they did not have, it would have reduced the amount of complaints.
That said their crappy customer service lines, in terms of phone line quality and people on the other end, is an entirely different matter.
Personally I have had no subscription problems thus far but these issues do not fill me with confidence going forward.
If GW are following this thread. Please consider doing a models subscription service in house.
A model box once a month would be a cool way to send out new release model samples (e.g. to promote a new kit, army or boxed game), exclusives and extra random goodies. Even bundle it together with White Dwarf as a Subscription Plus option, perhaps?
I cannot be the only one who gets the itch for new plastic every month. I'll paint anything... eventually.
Finally had a response from Hachette regarding my missing copies of issue 1:
Good day Mr xxxxxx,
Thank you for taking the time to write to us.
Subscriber Number: xxxxxxxxx
Kindly be advised that the other remaining 3 issues will be sent separately. Kindly expect delivery with in 7-14 working days from now. We do apologise for the delay caused.
If you require any additional information, please feel free to contact us.
Kind regards,
xxxxx
Customer Care
While not great, at least I have had a response with an expected timeframe for delivery and they have got the correct number of outstanding copies.
I've just had an email asking for me to update my payment details. It states I owe £24 for issues 4-6 and that I may have already received them in the post, so we may be getting our next deliveries sooner rather than later.
phillv85 wrote: I've just had an email asking for me to update my payment details. It states I owe £24 for issues 4-6 and that I may have already received them in the post, so we may be getting our next deliveries sooner rather than later.
I've had the same. It appears to be linked to the original subscription that I never received a subscriber number for.
When I log in to their site, my later subscription (added by the call center, amazingly) appears, with payment information and no current amount owing.
I really hope they don't think I've got two subscriptions going and start sending demands for payment for the first one...
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: I may be being thick but I can see no actual way to add payment details on the Hatchette website, what am I missing?
It seems you need to go on using the PC website. The manage Subscriptions, choose conquest, then there's an option on that page to add details at the top. I'm just going to remain a cash payer for the time being I think.
There's no indication they've dispatched my next issues (other than the mail I just got suggesting I may have them), and it could be weeks before I get them. I'd rather pay after I've received them the first few times.
You can set most mobile browsers to force load the desktop site if you need to. On iOS you just hold the refresh icon down, for instance, and the option appears.
Just a heads up regarding Hachette, they are one of those company's that when things are going well it's all good. Should something go wrong...then you will never get it sorted out. Sort of like Vodafone.
I've been in contact with them since May regarding them sending duplicate Warhammer Legends books, I've not been able to sort it out. They either don't bother to reply to customer service emails, or reply with utter nonsense. I've even had two emails from them within minutes saying completely different things.
Their online customer service doesn't use a ticket system, it is not allocated to one rep to completion and is generally a mess. The phone number? Well if you are lucky enough to get through you will be on the cheapest international line possible that, even if you do understand them will hang up halfway through.
That is not the best part. No the best part is they have no inter-departmental communication, even though I've been trying to resolve the issue since May their accounts department kept sending payment reminders and adding administration fees. With ever increasing threats in their letters before finally being warned by their litigation department. Finally they set the debt collectors on me.
Happy days, I phoned the debt collectors upon receiving the letter, got through to an English speaking human being actually in the UK and perhaps have resolved the issue, and left the agency to sort it out.
So, knowing that I decided not to subscribe to Conquest. Ordered issue one online on the 29th and have received only 1 issue of my order, with no communication from them until a day or so ago, after asking them six times for an update.
Then today I got an email asking when I was going to pay them for the Conquest trial subscription they rolled on without my permission.
Their excuse about being really "busy" is nonsense, they are always like that. Kinda depressing seeing all the sites shilling it, without actually warning people what the company is like. Partworks companies have always had a dodgy reputation.
On the opposite end, I have had no issue at all with Hachette for four and a bit graphic novel collections except poor quality packaging leaving me with damaged books. They have always replied to my customer service email within 24 hours and posted out replacements on numerous occasions with no questions asked or damaged books returned. I am not sure if I have just been lucky, you have been unlucky or perhaps both.
Just a heads up regarding Hachette, they are one of those company's that when things are going well it's all good. Should something go wrong...then you will never get it sorted out. Sort of like Vodafone.
I've been in contact with them since May regarding them sending duplicate Warhammer Legends books, I've not been able to sort it out. They either don't bother to reply to customer service emails, or reply with utter nonsense. I've even had two emails from them within minutes saying completely different things.
Their online customer service doesn't use a ticket system, it is not allocated to one rep to completion and is generally a mess. The phone number? Well if you are lucky enough to get through you will be on the cheapest international line possible that, even if you do understand them will hang up halfway through.
That is not the best part. No the best part is they have no inter-departmental communication, even though I've been trying to resolve the issue since May their accounts department kept sending payment reminders and adding administration fees. With ever increasing threats in their letters before finally being warned by their litigation department. Finally they set the debt collectors on me.
Happy days, I phoned the debt collectors upon receiving the letter, got through to an English speaking human being actually in the UK and perhaps have resolved the issue, and left the agency to sort it out.
So, knowing that I decided not to subscribe to Conquest. Ordered issue one online on the 29th and have received only 1 issue of my order, with no communication from them until a day or so ago, after asking them six times for an update.
Then today I got an email asking when I was going to pay them for the Conquest trial subscription they rolled on without my permission.
Their excuse about being really "busy" is nonsense, they are always like that. Kinda depressing seeing all the sites shilling it, without actually warning people what the company is like. Partworks companies have always had a dodgy reputation.
Thanks for sharing your experience with them. There was a small bit of warning given earlier in the thread about the woes people were having dealing with them when subscribed; thankfully most of the bargain value was front loaded in the first few issues and they were available in bricks and mortar stores. I do think it is definitely worthwhile when people share their bad experiences like this. In my case I was on the cusp of subscribing but backed off after reading some of the feedback. Managed to get a rake of issue 1 anyway so win win really but will probably miss out on Issue 5s exclusive which sucks.
To be fair I don't think it's just Hatchette. I've just spent a month dealing with Hearst magazines trying to cancel an annual subscription for one of their products I've been subscribed to for 4 years. Many unanswered phonecalls to their helpline, numerous ignored requests for a password reset and 2 ignored emails in the last fortnight, one to tell the I wanted to cancel, and 1 telling them that I'd spent 5 minutes talking to my bank to cancel the DD all without response. Until today when they finally answered my first email... I'm guessing the magazine trade doesn't do customer service. I'm just awaiting the DD payment to be taken out for issues 3-6 of Conquest now
When I cancelled my last two Hachette collections they accepted it via email and took less than 24 hours to be confirmed. Just make sure you always email rather than contact form or telephone as they are not helpful.
Yep, I think all these partwork companies can be a bit of a nightmare when things go wrong, I spent ages getting a refund from DeAgostini when they billed me twice and plenty of people seem to have problems with Eaglemoss (who I have a feeling are actually part of the same company as Hachette).
I'm thinking I'm probably going to cancel the Conquest sub after the next batch of issues (to get the exclusive model), as the mag is not really for me and although the models are a decent saving there's plenty of things there that I either already have, or wouldn't choose to buy.
Latro_ wrote: Anyone see the UK TV advert!? or is this old news
Yeah been showing since the lead up to issue one.
Good to be getting it out there though for the hobby
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Tavis75 wrote: Yep, I think all these partwork companies can be a bit of a nightmare when things go wrong, I spent ages getting a refund from DeAgostini when they billed me twice and plenty of people seem to have problems with Eaglemoss (who I have a feeling are actually part of the same company as Hachette).
I'm thinking I'm probably going to cancel the Conquest sub after the next batch of issues (to get the exclusive model), as the mag is not really for me and although the models are a decent saving there's plenty of things there that I either already have, or wouldn't choose to buy.
Yeah I’m really torn, with repeats coming so soon, and most likely Dark Imperium soon after that, before getting to the things I'd want. I don’t know whether to go for individual purchases as I need them on a forbidden planet
Automatically Appended Next Post: Maybe I’ll give it to the 4th delivery, get an extra free gift out of it, and chance to see what a few more issues will be early on.
And 14 issues of paint tutorials and all that when my son gets old enough to use them..
I imagine more will go until delivery 7 for the brushes, but by then, it’d be cheaper to just buy the brushes unless all the 26 issues of stuff are the things wanted/needed..
LMN118 wrote: Just a heads up regarding Hachette, they are one of those company's that when things are going well it's all good. Should something go wrong...then you will never get it sorted out. Sort of like Vodafone.
I have had the opposite experience, albeit only once.
I collected the Judge Dredd books, and during the whole time I had 2 blips.
One I contacted them about, in one delivery i got the same book twice, but with different issue numbers on them. Contacted them via the website, they apologised and sent me a replacement, no questions asked, even thought it was months after I recieved the delivery.
Second one, they just sent me a replacement book because "the cover spine was not printed correctly".
Reavsie wrote: Finally had a response from Hachette regarding my missing copies of issue 1:
Good day Mr xxxxxx,
Thank you for taking the time to write to us.
Subscriber Number: xxxxxxxxx
Kindly be advised that the other remaining 3 issues will be sent separately. Kindly expect delivery with in 7-14 working days from now. We do apologise for the delay caused.
If you require any additional information, please feel free to contact us.
Kind regards,
xxxxx
Customer Care
While not great, at least I have had a response with an expected timeframe for delivery and they have got the correct number of outstanding copies.
I have received a single copy of Issue 1 today, so looks as if the emphasis should have been on the word separately in their email. 2 more to go...
Anyone else received part deliveries of additional copies?
Reavsie wrote: Finally had a response from Hachette regarding my missing copies of issue 1:
Good day Mr xxxxxx,
Thank you for taking the time to write to us.
Subscriber Number: xxxxxxxxx
Kindly be advised that the other remaining 3 issues will be sent separately. Kindly expect delivery with in 7-14 working days from now. We do apologise for the delay caused.
If you require any additional information, please feel free to contact us.
Kind regards,
xxxxx
Customer Care
While not great, at least I have had a response with an expected timeframe for delivery and they have got the correct number of outstanding copies.
I have received a single copy of Issue 1 today, so looks as if the emphasis should have been on the word separately in their email. 2 more to go...
Anyone else received part deliveries of additional copies?
Yep, I received a single copy of issue one today, with the remainder still outstanding. So in total that's 2 I have received one at a time, weeks apart.
So glad I went with an order via my newsagent for the weekly issues and not a subscription.
Interesting, many assumed it was going to be the start of the Dark Imperium miniatures from 7 onwards. Looking at my account the 3-6 delivery was "processed" on 21st September, so hopefully I will get my delivery soon.
I just hope that Hatchette sort their issues sorted quickly, and that those complaining "where is my issue 3 or 4 they are in the shops!!! " realise that the issues are being sent out in groups of four rather than one at a time (unless you ordered multiples of issue 1 and are in that whole snafu).
I was lucky enough to get issues 1-4 for free, since I signed up early. If they're sending 3-6 in one go, I think I'm stopping there, full value extracted, with a unique character in issue 5.
So set 3-6 will be £24.
With it not being straight into DI for 7-10, I think that pack may be worth having too.
Already £31.60 of RRP in two of the four issues. Then some extra goodies that will be a ‘true surprise’
(Unless anyone here is buying individual issues and gets that Librarian, they can tell us what 9/10 have)
Your several posts out of the loop Aeneades!
Old news now.
7&8 are the hot topics!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Thing is with this format of releases. It’s like GW, we get the info a few weeks ahead so there’s not a surprise in the magazines.
Not sure if I prefer that or not..
Automatically Appended Next Post: Then again.
We already know the full collection so I guess it matters not
So set 3-6 will be £24.
With it not being straight into DI for 7-10, I think that pack may be worth having too.
Already £31.60 of RRP in two of the four issues. Then some extra goodies that will be a ‘true surprise’
(Unless anyone here is buying individual issues and gets that Librarian, they can tell us what 9/10 have)
Danny76 wrote: Your several posts out of the loop Aeneades!
Old news now.
7&8 are the hot topics!
He answered Drakheart's question
Sorry Aeneades I meant Drakheart anyway, it’s cos I was quoting you!
All in good jest.
Automatically Appended Next Post: DI = Dark Imperium starter box
Automatically Appended Next Post: Trouble is JWBS, we will end up dying that every month when they sneakily tease us with something that’s worth ‘just one more month’
He doesn't come with anything else (bar a 40mm base, are the other Primaris heroes on bases that big?), those days are over I expect! Hence me cancelling here. I'm not that bothered with this guy, not a big fan of sword drawing poses, I might pop him on eBay.
He doesn't come with anything else (bar a 40mm base, are the other Primaris heroes on bases that big?), those days are over I expect! Hence me cancelling here. I'm not that bothered with this guy, not a big fan of sword drawing poses, I might pop him on eBay.
One has already sold for £29.99.
Just got my delivery, happy with my subscription thus far. Of interest to some is that whilst the store copies for issues 3/4 that I have seen have the minis and paint in a box my subscription copies come with the plastic trays seen in issues 1 and 2.
Just what I wanted to see, separate shoulder pads so I can easily use him in my deathwatch without too much messing about.
Oooh, good call. Had not considered using him in my Deathwatch army. Hopefully his left and right shoulder pad are easy enough to swap around. Now just to check if the Lt is an option in the DW list.
He doesn't come with anything else (bar a 40mm base, are the other Primaris heroes on bases that big?), those days are over I expect! Hence me cancelling here. I'm not that bothered with this guy, not a big fan of sword drawing poses, I might pop him on eBay.
I thought that when you said it. Normally 32 aren’t they like the others?
Why are you cancelling now? Or did you not know this was how he looked?
Or do you just mean monopose in general?
Automatically Appended Next Post: I can’t see one on eBay for £30 (I hope no one bought it, as there are several up on bid for like £4 at the mo)
i'm cancelling as the honeymoon period is over and I got 3 free issues. I won't need any of the filthy Chaos stuff so I'm better off picking up the odd issue here and there.
40mm is the base size for the lieutenants and ancient in the Dark Imperium box, so makes sense that this one is also on a 40mm base.
Pre-ordering from Forbidden Planet is probably the best way to go if you want future issues like the Librarian - back issues seem to be selling out straight away on the Hachette website, even for this weeks issue.
Just what I wanted to see, separate shoulder pads so I can easily use him in my deathwatch without too much messing about.
Oooh, good call. Had not considered using him in my Deathwatch army. Hopefully his left and right shoulder pad are easy enough to swap around. Now just to check if the Lt is an option in the DW list.
Yes they are. I turned mine into a Deathwatch recruit earlier, it just requires some little nubs trimming down on the shoulders to get a closer fit for the pads.
Excellent! The postie turned up today while I was in! No week-long wait to pick it up at the depot this time.
Now, do I paint them along with the magazines and wait for the other paints, or do I just go ahead, buy the highlight colours I need and end up possibly with duplicates?
I got my issues 3-6 from hachette yesterday. I also got my extra issue of issue 5 from Forbidden Planet. Something strange is going on though at FP because issue 5 dispatched on Tuesday, issue 3 on Friday and issue 4 is awaiting stock. That’s all the extra issues I ordered from them, so there may be other strangeness going on.
Just picked up two issues with Death Guard Terminators and Poxwalkers from my local GW store. For that price I might as well start a little Nurgle kill team or such
For 11 quid you get 3 Terminators and 6 walkers, plus a paint and dice. Cannot go wrong there imo
endtransmission wrote: There are no issues with Terminators so far? those are just Death Guard marines
Damn! My bad
Indeed they are Plague Marines. Still cool though and worth grabbing. As I mentioned they could be a good start of a little pack or a addition to an army.
Hope there will be some more Nurgle models in upcoming issues
In addition to subscribing, I ordered 4 more copies of Issue1 as posted previously.
Subscription and one extra copy arrived - 3 copies outstanding.
A week later one more copy arrived - 2 copies outstanding.
Today a larger package containing 4 copies arrived.
I now have 21 Intercessors (will need to convert most of these to avoid too many duplicates).
Also have 7x Macragge Blue, Abaddon Black and Retributor armour - looks like I am basing everything by brush (rather than rattle can) for the forseeable future.
Reavsie wrote: In addition to subscribing, I ordered 4 more copies of Issue1 as posted previously.
Subscription and one extra copy arrived - 3 copies outstanding.
A week later one more copy arrived - 2 copies outstanding.
Today a larger package containing 4 copies arrived.
I now have 21 Intercessors (will need to convert most of these to avoid too many duplicates).
Also have 7x Macragge Blue, Abaddon Black and Retributor armour - looks like I am basing everything by brush (rather than rattle can) for the forseeable future.
Oh damn. You've got quite some value there. I looked at the hachette website in order to get me some more £1.99 marines, but unfortunately I can't so this now. As for brush basing, I don't recommend it. I live in a flat - I used to live with my parents, nice garden and garage, I could spray freely. I decided to try brush basing in my flat. It's not optimal, even with paint that's apparently designed for exactly this. I'd say give them a light spray at least, then brush on top.
Ah yes, sorry I wasn't very clear on that. I will be priming black with a rattle can. After priming, I had considered picking up a can of Macragge Blue spray to do the basecoat with, but will now brush the basecoat on due to the mass of Macragge Blue I now have in pots.
And I've just about given up on airbrushing, having wasted too much of my life trying to get it to work. Spent more time cleaning than painting with the airbrush and even when I bought a decent airbrush rather than the cheapo chinese stuff, I just had constant problems that I wasn't able to resolve. For the sake of my sanity I returned to rattle can and hairy brush.
Reavsie wrote:In addition to subscribing, I ordered 4 more copies of Issue1 as posted previously.
Subscription and one extra copy arrived - 3 copies outstanding.
A week later one more copy arrived - 2 copies outstanding.
Today a larger package containing 4 copies arrived.
I now have 21 Intercessors (will need to convert most of these to avoid too many duplicates).
Also have 7x Macragge Blue, Abaddon Black and Retributor armour - looks like I am basing everything by brush (rather than rattle can) for the forseeable future.
Similar experience. Not subscribed though.
Ordered 6x issue 1 from their online shop.
1 copy arrived and late.
Then a week or two so later another single copy arrived.
Then Saturday I received a box with the complete 6 I ordered. As I paid express delivery but the whole process took a month to complete I'm going to call it evens. I'm going to presume good faith and treat it as an act of goodwill for the earlier problems.
MongooseMatt wrote:I am going to claim first new Lieutenant painted up
Gratz. And nicely done too.
Who will claim the first non-Ultramarine mod for him? I look forward to seeing what other Dakkanauts manage with modding.
Has anyone else who did a preorder for issue 5 from Forbidden Planet been charged yet? They say they should be coming in on the 7th, I was expecting the transaction to have been processed by now.
Yodhrin wrote: Has anyone else who did a preorder for issue 5 from Forbidden Planet been charged yet? They say they should be coming in on the 7th, I was expecting the transaction to have been processed by now.
Yeah, mine dispatched before issue 3 Tuesday last week as far I remember.
I mean single issues, just to be clear, I've not subbed. It still shows under my account details, suppose I'll just have to wait and hope they've not cocked it up.
Was in stock on the shop at 12:30pm UK time today (Wednesday 3rd of Orktober). Sensibly limited to single orders only. Sadly limited to UK orders only (possibly Eire too? maybe the website detects locale). edit: Not Eire see DaveC post below
Additional info: Whereas the first four issues obtained via newsagents had packaging protecting the sprues, the issue 5 Lieutenant Calsius spue is loose inside the plastic wrap that holds the magazine. Cheaping out on the packaging is a disappointing change for collectors and will make finding an undamaged model in future more difficult*.
*Personally I do not approve of artificial scarcity. It screws over the very people that support the hobby and plays into the hands of scalpers.
Was in stock on the shop at 12:30pm UK time today (Wednesday 3rd of Orktober). Sensibly limited to single orders only. Sadly limited to UK orders only (possibly Eire too? maybe the website detects locale).
Additional info: Whereas the first four issues obtained via newsagents had packaging protecting the sprues, the issue 5 Lieutenant Calsius spue is loose inside the plastic wrap that holds the magazine. Cheaping out on the packaging is a disappointing change for collectors and will make finding an undamaged model in future more difficult*.
*Personally I do not approve of artificial scarcity. It screws over the very people that support the hobby and plays into the hands of scalpers.
Limited to UK only I tried to check out with an Irish address but it blocks it. Luckily local newsagent is still carrying it but I’m bowing out for issues 6 &7.
Did issue 1 ever come back as 'in stock' on their site (before going out of stock again)? I wouldn't mind picking up select issues (including the LT issue) but I missed the boat on finding issue 1 on a store shelf.
The Calsius prices on eBay are interesting - at the top end there's bids of £37 (£2.95 P&P) & £39.88 (free P&P), but then there's a load at £5.99 (£1.50 P&P) without bids. The highest sold one was £39.99 (£3.95 P&P). I suppose the market is now saturated.
It may be a case of which sellers are offering international postage as I can understand why those overseas would be willing to pay a bit more. That said paying above £15 for it in the UK is mental to me.
beast_gts wrote: Yeah, the cheapest one sold was £10 plus £2.95 P&P. Doesn't eBay force international shipping now (via it's Global Shipping Programme)?
Nope, it is an opt in for the seller. Though given how eBay send it via their "fulfillment centre" now it is a lot easier with them sorting out import duties, tax etc.
Just hope that those that want them are able to get the Lt without paying through the nose. Do we think the miniature will see a future release or will there be some sort of exclusivity contract with Hatchette?
the way the stuff in the magazine seems to be going that sort of makes sense, I'm expecting various 'king of the hill' type fights, endless chaos hordes against brave marines etc, at least to start with
You can swap the left arms on two of the models about, but that gives you one guy with the grenade launcher and a plasma gun. You could also swap backpacks around, but that would take some minor conversion work.
You can swap the left arms on two of the models about, but that gives you one guy with the grenade launcher and a plasma gun. You could also swap backpacks around, but that would take some minor conversion work.
See earlier in the thread for my way of converting to get three different minis.
I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
Still, next four are pretty decent. Issue 7 with just two pots of wash is probably the first where its cheaper to buy separately. But with the Primaris Libby the week after (an eye watering £22.50 retail, fact fans!) and the Blighthauler soon after that (£15.00), it's hard to feel ripped off there
And for clarity....more recent issues are showing a price in AUD and NZD. Sadly I can't rattle them off the top of my head, but I'll make a point of sharing that when I get in. Unless someone else can step in with that info of course.
That of course indicates an antipodean release (as Hachette did with Dredd), and I can see that being very popular. Provided you don't mind Nurgle or Primaris.
I don't mind this, I just figured they would use the plague brethren rather than a second easy build. I now have 4* easy build DG, one stock, one modified with DG parts and the two from this magazine still on sprue.
And for clarity....more recent issues are showing a price in AUD and NZD. Sadly I can't rattle them off the top of my head, but I'll make a point of sharing that when I get in. Unless someone else can step in with that info of course.
$19.99 for both currencies (I posted this here a few days ago)
Just pre-ordered the Lieutenant and Librarian via Forbidden Planet. Just wish I'd known what was in 11&12 so I could've figured out if there was something else to bundle in.
And for clarity....more recent issues are showing a price in AUD and NZD. Sadly I can't rattle them off the top of my head, but I'll make a point of sharing that when I get in. Unless someone else can step in with that info of course.
Steps in
As printed on the back of the magazines
CONQUEST IS
PUBLISHED WEEKLY UK: £7.99
AU$: 19.99 Inc. GST
NZ$ :19.99 Inc. GST
And for what it is worth the barcode is 9772516039027 (on issues 3, 4 & 5) which is suffixed with a smaller separate issue barcode 03, 04, 05 etc. The magazine equivalent of ISBN I think?
Promotional issue 1 in the UK was 9772516039003 with 01
Promotional issue 2 in the UK was 9772516039010 with 02
Edit note: At some point in the Grim Dark future this info will help a collector
The huge promotional cardboard fitted to the back of the earlier issues is UK specific. I would speculate that when Conquest makes it over to Australia and New Zealand you'll either have your own version of the card backing or a price sticker over the £1.99 first issue and £4.99 second issue. What those early issue prices will be is anyone's guess. Someone with local knowledge care to chip in?
Have the new issues with the lieutenant calsius sold out in shops? Seeing them on ebay for upwards of £20. Wondering if its worth selling mine when it arrives.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I thought it was going subscription only from this point? If I cancel my sub can I buy single issues in the future?
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Have the new issues with the lieutenant calsius sold out in shops? Seeing them on ebay for upwards of £20. Wondering if its worth selling mine when it arrives.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I thought it was going subscription only from this point? If I cancel my sub can I buy single issues in the future?
Some stores will still be carrying it but from issue 5 there is no sale or return if they don't sell the stock they are stuck with it. I think issue 5s popularity might mislead some retailers with 6 being repeat EtB Plague marines and 7 being 2 shade paints with only a small saving I think there will be a drop in sales until the Librarian.
You can order individual issues direct (UK only) but you have to factor in the £1.99 shipping. Issue 5 is still available
The eBay market has actually slowed down once the issue hit the shops. The figures were going for £35-40, looks like you can easily pay around £15-20 now, but as posted above you can currently get it from Hatchette direct for £10. No idea how long it will remain in stock though as issues 1-4 are currently "out of stock" on their site.
Personally if you are not interested in the figure I would sit on it and wait, currently the auction market is saturated, there is a chance that people can get the figure at retail and it is available online. That will not be the case in a few months time.
My one of my two localish WH Smiths had a bunch of them on Thursday, the other had run out so it seems to be very hit and miss
Hachette had (don't know if it's still true) limited issue 5 to 1 per customer so hopefully it will be around for a while for those who want it for themselves rather than re-sale
Yeah.. I have the sub already. Was planning on cancelling after this one. Will probably still do that if I can do single orders in future, as I'm not interested in the bulk stuff really. I'll probably keep calsius and convert/paint him for GD or something.
Kale wrote: wh smiths in bluewater had a few with the lieutenant earlier today if any one wants one
Heading there tomorrow, although probably check WHS in Gravesend or my local McColls first, but thanks for the headsup.
Given the sales, I suspect WHS will be stocking these for a while longer, similar to the Assassins Creed partworks which they still stock, albeit in small, single digit volumes.
ritualnet wrote: I don't mind this, I just figured they would use the plague brethren rather than a second easy build. I now have 4* easy build DG, one stock, one modified with DG parts and the two from this magazine still on sprue.
It's likely that when the stuff was initially allocated for this promotional dealio the Plague Brethren were still being considered a "limited edition" thing. It's only been relatively recent that they've become effectively an "online exclusive" item instead.
Gah! My order of issue 5 from Forbidden Planet - placed on August 29 - now says We are currently waiting for updated information from our suppliers - Please see our Terms and Conditions for further information. Looks like I should have ordered an extra from Hachette.
Picked the last issue 5 up in Bridport WHS yesterday. I'm not sure what I'll do with the figure, so I'm leaving it unopened until I have looked at my subscription one when it comes (sub'ed 3 weeks ago, issue 4 onwards, so hopefully due soon). I know he won't be a smurf.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
Still, next four are pretty decent. Issue 7 with just two pots of wash is probably the first where its cheaper to buy separately. But with the Primaris Libby the week after (an eye watering £22.50 retail, fact fans!) and the Blighthauler soon after that (£15.00), it's hard to feel ripped off there
And for clarity....more recent issues are showing a price in AUD and NZD. Sadly I can't rattle them off the top of my head, but I'll make a point of sharing that when I get in. Unless someone else can step in with that info of course.
That of course indicates an antipodean release (as Hachette did with Dredd), and I can see that being very popular. Provided you don't mind Nurgle or Primaris.
Wasjust rereading the thread and this stopped me.
A) but less important, issue 7 is big pots so aren’t they more than £4 each?
B) my reason for posting. Where did you get the blight hauler coming after from? I thought we only know 7&8 as they’re in the back of 6. No one has 7 yet to see what’s in 9?
My Forbidden Planet issue 5 order arrived yesterday, so they have had at least some stock. For all the debate about Primaris, I really like this model; it’s a characterful pose that is not easy to replicate through kit bashing, etc.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
Still, next four are pretty decent. Issue 7 with just two pots of wash is probably the first where its cheaper to buy separately. But with the Primaris Libby the week after (an eye watering £22.50 retail, fact fans!) and the Blighthauler soon after that (£15.00), it's hard to feel ripped off there
And for clarity....more recent issues are showing a price in AUD and NZD. Sadly I can't rattle them off the top of my head, but I'll make a point of sharing that when I get in. Unless someone else can step in with that info of course.
That of course indicates an antipodean release (as Hachette did with Dredd), and I can see that being very popular. Provided you don't mind Nurgle or Primaris.
Wasjust rereading the thread and this stopped me.
A) but less important, issue 7 is big pots so aren’t they more than £4 each?
B) my reason for posting. Where did you get the blight hauler coming after from? I thought we only know 7&8 as they’re in the back of 6. No one has 7 yet to see what’s in 9?
The latest Conquest TV video talks about the contents of issues 9 and 10 at the very end - Pox Walkers again and the Blighthauler.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
My personal view is that if someone buys into a part works for a purely short term gain, there may be disappointment.
For me, it's all about the long haul. At the end of 80 weeks, I will have two armies built up slowly rather than having a mass of plastic in one go.
As for as repeat of the easy build Plague Marines so early, I have a couple of choices. Hack them up with other bits to add some variety to the ones I already have OR build as per the instructions but paint in one of the different colour schemes for Plague Marines in the accompanying magazine.
I picked up a couple copies of Issue 1 and the Reivers issue and by mixing the models up with bits bought from eBay, I've created enough variety to distract from the same three torsos being repeated. Then again, as a 2nd Ed metal IG collector, I'm used to repetition.
I guess the doubles show up early to space out the unique stuff (same with the paint). If you shoved all of the special stuff up front I imagine you'd get a lot of people cancelling their subscription halfway through, having got the bits they wanted.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
Still, next four are pretty decent. Issue 7 with just two pots of wash is probably the first where its cheaper to buy separately. But with the Primaris Libby the week after (an eye watering £22.50 retail, fact fans!) and the Blighthauler soon after that (£15.00), it's hard to feel ripped off there
And for clarity....more recent issues are showing a price in AUD and NZD. Sadly I can't rattle them off the top of my head, but I'll make a point of sharing that when I get in. Unless someone else can step in with that info of course.
That of course indicates an antipodean release (as Hachette did with Dredd), and I can see that being very popular. Provided you don't mind Nurgle or Primaris.
Wasjust rereading the thread and this stopped me.
A) but less important, issue 7 is big pots so aren’t they more than £4 each?
B) my reason for posting. Where did you get the blight hauler coming after from? I thought we only know 7&8 as they’re in the back of 6. No one has 7 yet to see what’s in 9?
The latest Conquest TV video talks about the contents of issues 9 and 10 at the very end - Pox Walkers again and the Blighthauler.
Ah that’s great to know cheers!
Not got that far watching them yet..
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
My personal view is that if someone buys into a part works for a purely short term gain, there may be disappointment.
For me, it's all about the long haul. At the end of 80 weeks, I will have two armies built up slowly rather than having a mass of plastic in one go.
As for as repeat of the easy build Plague Marines so early, I have a couple of choices. Hack them up with other bits to add some variety to the ones I already have OR build as per the instructions but paint in one of the different colour schemes for Plague Marines in the accompanying magazine.
Yeah it’s not for quick winners of good stuff as it were (though they’ll still be able to just buy single issues to gain).
I’m guessing I’ll go with a little converting and such for the three sprues of Plague Marines (as I already had it once :( ) and same for the Pox repeats (again I already had that sprue)..
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
My personal view is that if someone buys into a part works for a purely short term gain, there may be disappointment.
For me, it's all about the long haul. At the end of 80 weeks, I will have two armies built up slowly rather than having a mass of plastic in one go.
As for as repeat of the easy build Plague Marines so early, I have a couple of choices. Hack them up with other bits to add some variety to the ones I already have OR build as per the instructions but paint in one of the different colour schemes for Plague Marines in the accompanying magazine.
Yeah it’s not for quick winners of good stuff as it were (though they’ll still be able to just buy single issues to gain).
I’m guessing I’ll go with a little converting and such for the three sprues of Plague Marines (as I already had it once :( ) and same for the Pox repeats (again I already had that sprue)..
I'm a little stumped with the Poxwalkers. As they're very individually posed, arm swaps and so on look a little difficult. I suppose the comedy sized mallet could be swapped with the spiked club and so on. At least the easy build Marines come with arms separate from the torsos.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I know doublers are inevitable, but still a bit disappointed they came so soon.
My personal view is that if someone buys into a part works for a purely short term gain, there may be disappointment.
For me, it's all about the long haul. At the end of 80 weeks, I will have two armies built up slowly rather than having a mass of plastic in one go.
As for as repeat of the easy build Plague Marines so early, I have a couple of choices. Hack them up with other bits to add some variety to the ones I already have OR build as per the instructions but paint in one of the different colour schemes for Plague Marines in the accompanying magazine.
Yeah it’s not for quick winners of good stuff as it were (though they’ll still be able to just buy single issues to gain).
I’m guessing I’ll go with a little converting and such for the three sprues of Plague Marines (as I already had it once :( ) and same for the Pox repeats (again I already had that sprue)..
I'm a little stumped with the Poxwalkers. As they're very individually posed, arm swaps and so on look a little difficult. I suppose the comedy sized mallet could be swapped with the spiked club and so on. At least the easy build Marines come with arms separate from the torsos.
with a sharp knife and a little GS the pox walkers are some of the easiest models to convert.
Yeah, I bought some PW from someone way back, and got the 20 from DI and 6 ETB. Then I was getting four more so looked through them all as to which would be easy to convert as I dislike doubles, I had a list of what to do to most and how easy it would be somewhere. The doctor coat guy was most difficult I believe..
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NurglesR0T wrote: Not sure if already answered in this thread - please forgive me if it has. Is there a date yet for when this will be released in Australia?
And no btw,
But also no actual confirmation of it going over.
(Though it is, as they’ve started putting the prices on, but they haven’t announced it that I’ve seen anyway)
The Phazer wrote: I'm quite surprised they've not put some terrain in the first ten issues tbh.
I guess want to build up the forces a bit first before getting to it.
I’d say the 11-14 set for starting subscribers would have a sprue, containers first, Delivery 4, it’s enough in that people would need some.
Terrain. Paint. DG character. And Primaris unit.
That’s my guess, the paint could come combined but I think from now on it will be 3 paints alone in an issue rather than mixed with models.
I think I counted about 23 and 25 issues worth of sprues for the armies, 15-20 for the scenery, then it leaves some for a bundle of paints.
That’s if they really spread things out in the way I was thinking when I looked.
they wont put the terrain in until later. someone totally new to the game would still be getting used to the basics using the 2D boards.
I cancelled my sub today. dont need issues with pots of wash or any more of the regular troops/vehicles etc. Just going to keep an eye out for any decent character issues and buy them individually. got a pre order in for issue 8 for the librarian.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: they wont put the terrain in until later. someone totally new to the game would still be getting used to the basics using the 2D boards.
I cancelled my sub today. dont need issues with pots of wash or any more of the regular troops/vehicles etc. Just going to keep an eye out for any decent character issues and buy them individually. got a pre order in for issue 8 for the librarian.
The only doubles left to come are the Reivers now.
But yeah if you have stuff already it’s only semi worth it
We are getting two lots of 5 cultists further down the line, although they could potentially be combined onto a single issue.
I'd expect that they'll give us the contents of Know No Fear soon - those models are all over eBay so not especially high value, but very useful for new players to build the armies up to a decent size and start playing ~1000pts games.
They can save the rest of the Dark Imperium sprues for later down the line.
Ah I was thinking 10 cultists from the Dark Vengeance which are all different, but you may be right yeah..
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think yeah it will soon be the Know No Fear and DI stuff, whether it’s the ones from one first then other or mixing up, seen as much crosses over anyway.
Then ETB remaining bits..
Then all those high cost characters and vehicles all a bit later.
The Dark Vengence cultists are mixed in with other chaos and space marine parts on the spru which is why they only released the 5 model kit for general release so I can’t see them redoing the spru at this time for conquest.
Aeneades wrote: The Dark Vengence cultists are mixed in with other chaos and space marine parts on the spru which is why they only released the 5 model kit for general release so I can’t see them redoing the spru at this time for conquest.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: they wont put the terrain in until later. someone totally new to the game would still be getting used to the basics using the 2D boards.
I cancelled my sub today. dont need issues with pots of wash or any more of the regular troops/vehicles etc. Just going to keep an eye out for any decent character issues and buy them individually. got a pre order in for issue 8 for the librarian.
The only doubles left to come are the Reivers now.
But yeah if you have stuff already it’s only semi worth it
I don't game so have no need for big units. I'm just looking for nice sculpts to convert/paint.
Aeneades wrote: The Dark Vengence cultists are mixed in with other chaos and space marine parts on the spru which is why they only released the 5 model kit for general release so I can’t see them redoing the spru at this time for conquest.
They could use that very sprue.
It has Death Wing Terminators, Raven wing bike squad, hellbrute and choasen chaos marines that were not shown as part of the Conquest contents and would be very unlikely to be as they don’t fit the theme.
Aeneades wrote: The Dark Vengence cultists are mixed in with other chaos and space marine parts on the spru which is why they only released the 5 model kit for general release so I can’t see them redoing the spru at this time for conquest.
They could use that very sprue.
Each issue is based around what’s in it, so a mix wouldn’t work, but also there’s lots irrelevant on that sprue from the Conquest contents.
Aeneades, yeah I forgot that sprue is a mix one. Are the cultists the same in the 5 box? If not, then I don’t have them so that’s great.
On that note, the Dark Imperium stuff would need to be recut too wouldn’t it?
queen_annes_revenge wrote: they wont put the terrain in until later. someone totally new to the game would still be getting used to the basics using the 2D boards.
I cancelled my sub today. dont need issues with pots of wash or any more of the regular troops/vehicles etc. Just going to keep an eye out for any decent character issues and buy them individually. got a pre order in for issue 8 for the librarian.
The only doubles left to come are the Reivers now.
But yeah if you have stuff already it’s only semi worth it
I don't game so have no need for big units. I'm just looking for nice sculpts to convert/paint.
Fair enough, that was my intention for the Primaris too..
But now..
Danny76 wrote: Yeah, I bought some PW from someone way back, and got the 20 from DI and 6 ETB. Then I was getting four more so looked through them all as to which would be easy to convert as I dislike doubles, I had a list of what to do to most and how easy it would be somewhere. The doctor coat guy was most difficult I believe..
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NurglesR0T wrote: Not sure if already answered in this thread - please forgive me if it has. Is there a date yet for when this will be released in Australia?
And no btw,
But also no actual confirmation of it going over.
(Though it is, as they’ve started putting the prices on, but they haven’t announced it that I’ve seen anyway)
Ok thanks, guess we'll have to wait a bit longer (if it ever does come over here)
Closing Time wrote: Do we know for certain that the Blight Hauler is in issue 10?
I only ask as I get specific issues ordered into my local newsagents and I need 3 of the things!
We know Blight Hauler and poxwalkers are in issues 9 and 10 (from the conquest tutorial video) but won't know which order till the back of next weeks issue which will show which one is in issue 9.
I know there has been 5 or 6 issues of Coquest out already. I got issue 2 and 4 from the local GW store but I was not aware that if you subscribe and get them delivered regularly you get quite a bit of freebies like tools and paints.
Question is - if I subscribe now, will I start getting issues from number 1 and so on and at the same time I'll be getting all the free stuff as advertised? Or will they start sending me the magazines from the current, newest magazine?
I live in UK so hope any other UK players might help me out here
I know there has been 5 or 6 issues of Coquest out already. I got issue 2 and 4 from the local GW store but I was not aware that if you subscribe and get them delivered regularly you get quite a bit of freebies like tools and paints.
Question is - if I subscribe now, will I start getting issues from number 1 and so on and at the same time I'll be getting all the free stuff as advertised? Or will they start sending me the magazines from the current, newest magazine?
I live in UK so hope any other UK players might help me out here
Looking on the subscription page it looks like you start with issue 1, my guess is you'd get delivery 1 (1&2) delivery 2 (3,4,5 & 6) at once then kick into the standard schedule from issue 7 onwards of 4 mags a month in a single package
Thanks for the info. I'll get in touch with the and clarify what options do I have
What bothers me is that it seems that there are the same units included in different issues and some issues just include paints. I thought that all issues will include different minis and a paint as well. Seems that GW is not that generous after all
there is some duplication but not a huge amount, what you'll eventually have is shown above (you should be able to see what they are with a bit of squinting)
Automatically Appended Next Post: on and this chap breaks down a rough estimate of the savings
For the grand total here, based on the estimates I’ve shown above, Warhammer 40,000: Conquest in miniatures alone is worth £876. That… that’s a lot of money. A lot of saving too! If you take on the premium subscription you save £131 and if you go for the basic subscription you save a whopping £251!
so if you want both armies and the terrain it's smart buy, with the paints, brushes, dice and card mats adding value to an extent (if you need/want them), the premium subscription doesn't seem worth the extra spend if you've got any gaming experience (especially as we don't know all of whats in it)
Blooddragon1981 wrote: Thanks for the info. I'll get in touch with the and clarify what options do I have
What bothers me is that it seems that there are the same units included in different issues and some issues just include paints. I thought that all issues will include different minis and a paint as well. Seems that GW is not that generous after all
If you compare the price of the entire magazine range with the cost of buying them from GW, and to a lesser extent online retailers, you are getting a hefty discount. It's only a real bargain though if you are interested in having everything shown on the poster above.
I know I'd rather pay £7.99 than £22.50 for a Primaris Librarian for example.
As issues 1 - 4 were in the shops, I believe you may be able to start your sub from issue 5 onwards. When you subscribe with Hachette, you will be able to choose your starting issue from the drop down menus.
As for repeat minis, there are alternate colour schemes (initially for Death Guard) listed in the magazines or try some arm swaps. I've been buying bits from eBay so I have some Reivers with bolt carbines and alternate arms on the Intercessors.
leopard wrote: I would probably have gone for the premium option if they had said what was actually in it, not bothered about "mystery boxes" you pay for up front
And exactly that is why I am still hesitating.
As the other guys mentioned and pointed it is a great saving, you get a lot of extras and freebies, BUT....do I really want to get random minis from an army which does not interest me or is just boring (Primaris Marines). I do like Death Guard and was thinking of collecting them, even for a small force battles or such, but paying for something which would be totally of no use for me......
Be aware if you subscribe of the small print which is in the letter they mail you.
They mail out binders at intervals, at extra cost , and there will be 'special issues' with no specified price in addition to regular issues, so the cost saving may not be accurate.
Yes you can return unwanted mailings, but this was enough for me to decide I really cannot be bothered as the company does not have a great reputation dealing with returns and billing.
TwilightSparkles wrote: Be aware if you subscribe of the small print which is in the letter they mail you.
They mail out binders at intervals, at extra cost , and there will be 'special issues' with no specified price in addition to regular issues, so the cost saving may not be accurate.
Yes you can return unwanted mailings, but this was enough for me to decide I really cannot be bothered as the company does not have a great reputation dealing with returns and billing.
Stuff I don't want is going back, this is on DD not a credit card so push comes to shove I control it, not them
TwilightSparkles wrote: Be aware if you subscribe of the small print which is in the letter they mail you.
They mail out binders at intervals, at extra cost , and there will be 'special issues' with no specified price in addition to regular issues, so the cost saving may not be accurate.
Yes you can return unwanted mailings, but this was enough for me to decide I really cannot be bothered as the company does not have a great reputation dealing with returns and billing.
Stuff I don't want is going back, this is on DD not a credit card so push comes to shove I control it, not them
I'm pretty sure when push comes to shove on a credit card you still control it too. Even if there are "misunderstandings" from their billing department, you can complain to Visa (or more likely the bank that's issuing your Visa) that you're being defrauded. I had to resort to this with a small company once. I had my money back in less than 24hrs. It might be a lot more difficult if you're disputing a charge with a big guy like Amazon or someone like that. Hachette, IDK, logically it should be easy, but in practice might be a bit of a bitc*.
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Blooddragon1981 wrote: Thanks for the info. I'll get in touch with the and clarify what options do I have
What bothers me is that it seems that there are the same units included in different issues and some issues just include paints. I thought that all issues will include different minis and a paint as well. Seems that GW is not that generous after all
A few pages back some people were saying that this is long term value only, not short term. I'm of the opposite view. I don't really want most of the stuff on offer, a few DG minis is ok, but if you don't specifically want Marines + DG, and you aren't planning to re-sell your unwanted stuff, I think there's little value overall, and personally I'm dropping out after the Librarian (as an early sub I got 4 free issues, so unsubbing at issue 7 gives me a lot more value than seeing this thing out until the end).
A few pages back some people were saying that this is long term value only, not short term. I'm of the opposite view. I don't really want most of the stuff on offer, a few DG minis is ok, but if you don't specifically want Marines + DG, and you aren't planning to re-sell your unwanted stuff, I think there's little value overall, and personally I'm dropping out after the Librarian (as an early sub I got 4 free issues, so unsubbing at issue 7 gives me a lot more value than seeing this thing out until the end).
Id say that’s precisely why they said it’s long term value, as you’d get two armies over the course of it etc etc.
But only good value IF you want it, there is if course no value if you’re buying things you don’t want (I also think resale at that point won’t be a viable option, as saturation may make a lot of the stuff in this worth less than £8.. except characters and clam shells and big stuff and such.
Bear in mind if you unsubscribe when you receive 7-10, their clause of 28 day cancelling may mean you’d be on track for receiving 11-14 too..
(Though perhaps that’s when the control of your DD comes in and prevents it, I’m not sure what Hachette are like in this regard).
leopard wrote: I would probably have gone for the premium option if they had said what was actually in it, not bothered about "mystery boxes" you pay for up front
And exactly that is why I am still hesitating.
As the other guys mentioned and pointed it is a great saving, you get a lot of extras and freebies, BUT....do I really want to get random minis from an army which does not interest me or is just boring (Primaris Marines). I do like Death Guard and was thinking of collecting them, even for a small force battles or such, but paying for something which would be totally of no use for me......
I'd say the subscription is of absolutely no use to you.
Keep an eye on this thread, see what is coming in the next couple of issues and if you're interested in any, hop to the Hachette or Forbidden Planet websites and order individual issues.
I picked up an extra Lt Calsius via Forbidden Planet.
A few pages back some people were saying that this is long term value only, not short term. I'm of the opposite view. I don't really want most of the stuff on offer, a few DG minis is ok, but if you don't specifically want Marines + DG, and you aren't planning to re-sell your unwanted stuff, I think there's little value overall, and personally I'm dropping out after the Librarian (as an early sub I got 4 free issues, so unsubbing at issue 7 gives me a lot more value than seeing this thing out until the end).
Id say that’s precisely why they said it’s long term value, as you’d get two armies over the course of it etc etc.
But only good value IF you want it, there is if course no value if you’re buying things you don’t want (I also think resale at that point won’t be a viable option, as saturation may make a lot of the stuff in this worth less than £8.. except characters and clam shells and big stuff and such.
Bear in mind if you unsubscribe when you receive 7-10, their clause of 28 day cancelling may mean you’d be on track for receiving 11-14 too..
(Though perhaps that’s when the control of your DD comes in and prevents it, I’m not sure what Hachette are like in this regard).
Yep fair point. The only value is in the plastic, and only then if you want all the plastic (I don't. I'll use some of the paint, but even then, I'm still getting dupes of stuff that I already have, for the most part). The "Magazine" such as it is is of very limited value to anyone. Even total beginners can get a lot more, for free, just by logging onto Dakka or a similar site. I didn't know that they planned to send out binders, at additional expense to me, to store this almost valueless pile of cardboard. "Here, buy some boxes, to store stuff you don't need or want" . Thanks for letting me know about the cancellation period. Looks like I'll have to get onto them sooner rather than later (And definitely before they send me any binders
Tuesday last week as far I remember.
