Primaris Space Marines
Dark Imperium full
Apoth
Captain
Chaplain
Librarian
Redemptor
Repulsor
3 Aggressors
6 Reivers
5 Intercessors
drawing sword from scabbard guy??
Non-Primaris
BaC chaplain/termie captain
5 sniper scouts
5 regular scouts
3 bikes
1 attack bike
1 land speeder
Were this available to us Aussies, i'd be a fair bargain!
The FAQ says 80 issues in total. 80 x 7.99 = 640GBP for the full run. At the current exchange rate that's $1124.48AUD
To buy all these kits individually (and assuming it's the easy-2-build kits for some of the primaris guys), Total cost of minis bought individually = $2349AUD approx. This is also assuming there wont be some arbitrary Australia tax applied. All that doesn't take into account the freebies + paints you get. Which wont tack on a huge cost, but aren't cheap in their own rights.
Two full armies and terrain for not quite half price.
Even if you weren't interested in one or the other armies, that's hard to pass up. If this comes down under, I'll certainly be signing up.
This was it.
Just the models not any paints and other free gifts..
Based on Snrub's post of what comes in it found on page 9, I make it as follows:
Dark Imperium models: Not sure what value you want to put on these.
Other models and terrain: £837.50
There's also various paints + other free goodies, as well as the magazine (if it's worth the paper it's written on).
Maths:
Item GW Price Notes
Apoth £22.50
Captain £22.50
Chaplain £22.50
Librarian £22.50
Redemptor £25 (most likely the E2B one)
Repulsor £50 (although this may turn out to be some sort of E2B as well)
3 Aggressors £20 E2B
6 Reivers £20 2x E2B
5 Intercessors £20 I assume this is meant to be 6, so £20 (2x E2B)
Lieutenant £15 Exclusive Lieutenant £15 (BA Equivalent model)
BaC chaplain/termie captain £30 this also comes with the dark apostle model. These are sold separately for £30 for the pair
5 sniper scouts £15.50
5 regular scouts £15.50
3 bikes £20
1 attack bike £16.50
1 land speeder £18.50
Did you not get the email last week saying you’d get free bits for being loyal, and that an email (this one) will follow with how to set up payment details again?
2 emails total, to get all the info we needed to resub.
Oddly I did not get the email last week, it was not in my spam either. Just assumed that they had lost my details. I then got the second email about an hour after my "new" subscription.
As an aside do we know what these loyalty based free bits are?
Yep, I'm thinking of picking up an issue 1 next week despite already subscribing, as I was planning on picking up a pot of Macragge Blue at GW tomorrow, so might as well save myself a bit of cash and also get the extra paints, marines and brush! Plus it means I get to have a nose at the magazine while waiting for my subscription copy to arrive.
A word of warning for anyone in the US thinking of ordering individual issues from Forbidden Planet - I tried ordering five of issue 1 because I need a bunch of Intercessor bodies, but estimated shipping was £120. Looks like there might not be a viable way for us to get these magazines at the moment.
The viable way is for someone to send you it if you pay them.
The shipping from UK to US would be like £10-20 for 5 - at the most (I’m basing on prior things I’ve sent, I don’t know the exact weight of these but...)
£120 is insane..
maybe they just don’t want the hassle so are hoping to put people off
The high postage could well be the size of them. Looking at the video the packaging may be A3 size. If you can get them to someone who can unpack them and put them in a smaller box and ship them it'd probably be closer to £15 to ship.
They are sending my 4 issues by DPD in the in which is insane as I ordered a number of items which are all being sent separately so postage was only about £2.
120 pounds is insane! Is there not any services that you can get it sent to a UK address then forwarded to you?
In Ireland there's services(even the national post service) where they give you an address of a warehouse they have in the UK or US for items like this that don't deliver to Ireland. Get's sent there then they bring it to you. 4-6 euro for UK delivery and 16 euro for US delivery. I've never looked if there's a UK -> USA one though
Is there a list anywhere yet of what's coming with which issue number? Want to order the one with the exclusive Lieutenant but the Forbidden Planet pages don't have any contents info.
Yodhrin wrote: Is there a list anywhere yet of what's coming with which issue number? Want to order the one with the exclusive Lieutenant but the Forbidden Planet pages don't have any contents info.
Issue 5 for the Lt Sir, check the FAQ on the Conquest website.
"Is any of the content in this collection new?
Games Workshop have created a brand-new Space Marine army for this collection. The Silver Templars will have their own unique colour schemes, armour markings and history which will be developed and expanded with each new issue. There is also an exclusive new miniature included with Issue 05."
That’s the subscribe incentive showing you to get started.
The other magazines they do on the website you see a week or two ahead I think. On the Hachette website.
Conquest website itself I’m not sure how often that’ll be updated.
If the fortnightly videos are going to be hosted on there then you’d get insight from those.
Then of course it’ll depend if subscribers get their 4 at the start of that months run, or when the last issue in the set of four comes out.
Has anyone who signed up for the trial copy re subscribed? Just wonder how you let them know you were on the original subscription so to get the three free issues?
They have emailed me twice within the last few days, first to tell me that the magazine is launching so I will receive my free magazines and then after a few days a second email detailing how to enter payment details.
Danny76 wrote: You can call them on the number in the email.
But you can’t link it until the system is ready on the 29th.
We hope that you’ll get sent delivery one anyway on time as it’s free either way. But you might need to get the details sorted before they send.
You can go create your account now on the site. Just sort on the website or call them on 29th to link your subscriber number to it
Ah thanks for that - been trying to link the subscriber number they sent me in that email to my account so I can update payment details but it kept telling me they didn't match.
My DPD delivery is due this morning. Looking forward to seeing if the content of the magazine, and if it's worth a read, or I'll be just getting it for the models going forward.
phillv85 wrote: My DPD delivery is due this morning. Looking forward to seeing if the content of the magazine, and if it's worth a read, or I'll be just getting it for the models going forward.
If its similar to BGIME then I would expect the magazine to improve as it goes on, initially the painting guides were very basic as it was aimed at complete beginners (who only had three paints!) but the guides in BGIME got gradually more advanced as the magazine progressed, that also had scenery making articles that also got increasingly complex as it went on, but I'm guessing we wont be seeing those in Conquest.
Ok, I have it in hand. First thing I noticed is you get a giant poster of a Primaris Intercessor Sergeant. I also has a bundle of paints on the back next to the models in the collection, which it looks like we'll be getting.
Apologies for picture quality, I still use a beat up old iPhone 5.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The magazine itself is not exactly full of content. It's around 30 pages long, the first half is a bit of lore around 40k, the second half is about how to assemble and paint you intercessors. The back cover shows the contents of the next two issues.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Reading the inserts it looks like the Premium sets are being described as "Game Mat Sets"
It's got a facebook page now, also some minor extra info on the premium sub
Warhammer 40,000: Conquest Hi guys,
With a premium subscription, you get four Premium Wargear sets to enhance your gameplay which includes exclusive fold-out gaming boards, dice, reference cards and more. This costs £1.50 extra per issue.
We are planning four exciting special issues which will be released throughout the collection. The first one will be announced soon, so keep your eyes on the page for that!
I wonder if the image of all the models includes whatever is in the 4 special issues, might make it slightly less of a good deal. BGIME did a small number of more expensive special issues that included fully metal mounted characters, so maybe some of the more expensive Conquest stuff will also be in more expensive issues, rather than coming as part of the standard subscription.
There look like a few repeats in that paint set - Macrage Blue and the Death Guard Green in particular. Makes sense I suppose but for those not interested in these armies it is a shame.
But why would you collect this if you're not interested in these armies? This is basically a giant step by step painting manual for new hobbyists, so it makes sense to use a standard set of colours. Of course you could paint them differently, but if you follow the instructions because you're new and haven't painted an army before, it makes sense to use what's in the set.
XuQishi wrote: But why would you collect this if you're not interested in these armies? This is basically a giant step by step painting manual for new hobbyists, so it makes sense to use a standard set of colours. Of course you could paint them differently, but if you follow the instructions because you're new and haven't painted an army before, it makes sense to use what's in the set.
Well, exactly. I said it made sense. Just a shame for anyone subscribing (like me, for example) who doesn’t paint ultramarines. I don’t need 3 pots of Macrage blue. Not sure 3 pots of each are even needed with those armies being displayed too. It would have been marginally better value to see a wider range of paints given away.
Even more so since I have some extra copies of issue 1 ordered for the cheap marines. What am I going to do with all that blue!?
The Death Guard is a more specific army. You can paint them in different schemes but I guess most would go for the standard green.
Not a big deal. My plan is to see how this goes with the next issues. I’ll keep the models and paints I want and sell the rest at cost. Might keep a few Nurgle ones to paint for fun.
I like the idea of the magazine for newcomers a lot. The first four issues, with minimal investment a new player has a modelling kit, some paints, a brush and enough miniatures for two kill teams as well as some introductory articles and background into the universe.
If you have a friend or relative that has been on the fence about getting into the hobby this is the ideal way to start, which is obviously the point.
For me as a 25+ year veteran I will just enjoy the monthly deliveries and chance to add to my Death Guard and start a new Marine chapter. Win-win for me.
I think the problem is that it's on a massive piece of cardboard (A2 sort of size) and shipping something with those dimensions probably does rack up the costs (definitely not £28 within Europe though mind).
Indeed. At GW prices in the UK (assuming they are all £2.55 each, not including technical paints, shades, etc. Just base paints) you receive a minimum of £84.15 in paint alone!
That is assuming that what is advertised is their "standard" and paint pot sizes and not their cheap smaller "start collecting" paint pot sizes.
Tavis75 wrote: I wonder if the image of all the models includes whatever is in the 4 special issues, might make it slightly less of a good deal. BGIME did a small number of more expensive special issues that included fully metal mounted characters, so maybe some of the more expensive Conquest stuff will also be in more expensive issues, rather than coming as part of the standard subscription.
They haven’t mentioned four expensive special issues?
Or do you mean the premium version, as those are deliveries on top of the issues though, and none of the stuff from the first special delivery is shown in that picture.
If they are doing it though:
The subscription sign up says the issues are £7.99, no mention of some being more
Perhaps they would be more expensive if buying singularly, but for those subscribed you pay the normal price.
Tavis75 wrote: I wonder if the image of all the models includes whatever is in the 4 special issues, might make it slightly less of a good deal. BGIME did a small number of more expensive special issues that included fully metal mounted characters, so maybe some of the more expensive Conquest stuff will also be in more expensive issues, rather than coming as part of the standard subscription.
They haven’t mentioned four expensive special issues?
Or do you mean the premium version, as those are deliveries on top of the issues though, and none of the stuff from the first special delivery is shown in that picture.
If they are doing it though:
The subscription sign up says the issues are £7.99, no mention of some being more
Perhaps they would be more expensive if buying singularly, but for those subscribed you pay the normal price.
They have mentioned 4 special issues in the quote provided by Orlando -
With a premium subscription, you get four Premium Wargear sets to enhance your gameplay which includes exclusive fold-out gaming boards, dice, reference cards and more. This costs £1.50 extra per issue.
We are planning four exciting special issues which will be released throughout the collection. The first one will be announced soon, so keep your eyes on the page for that!
They mention the premium subscription in the first line and then announce the specials in the second line. Specials are a frequent thing with the newer Hachette collections (the current 2000AD collection has 4 specials containing cover art). I am hoping that the specials are additional content on top of what is shown in the full collection photo.
Indeed. At GW prices in the UK (assuming they are all £2.55 each, not including technical paints, shades, etc. Just base paints) you receive a minimum of £84.15 in paint alone!
That is assuming that what is advertised is their "standard" and paint pot sizes and not their cheap smaller "start collecting" paint pot sizes.
They are the normal size ones in the first issues so far.
On the subject of paints, the picture shows two of each of the silvers in there, and many other repeats, but maybe it’s just a stock picture and actual colours may vary Kind of thing.
Though I won’t complain about any colour paints, as mentioned this isn’t for us veterans, but new people wh9 ideally are following the structure of the magazines and painting these schemes anyway.
I have my half built DG army as a project for 2019 so haven’t decided on a paint scheme yet, but didn’t want to do standard DG, having these paints may sway that way, or make it a base colour to be involved in there somewhere..
Tavis75 wrote: I wonder if the image of all the models includes whatever is in the 4 special issues, might make it slightly less of a good deal. BGIME did a small number of more expensive special issues that included fully metal mounted characters, so maybe some of the more expensive Conquest stuff will also be in more expensive issues, rather than coming as part of the standard subscription.
They haven’t mentioned four expensive special issues?
Or do you mean the premium version, as those are deliveries on top of the issues though, and none of the stuff from the first special delivery is shown in that picture.
If they are doing it though:
The subscription sign up says the issues are £7.99, no mention of some being more
Perhaps they would be more expensive if buying singularly, but for those subscribed you pay the normal price.
They have mentioned 4 special issues in the quote provided by Orlando -
With a premium subscription, you get four Premium Wargear sets to enhance your gameplay which includes exclusive fold-out gaming boards, dice, reference cards and more. This costs £1.50 extra per issue.
We are planning four exciting special issues which will be released throughout the collection. The first one will be announced soon, so keep your eyes on the page for that!
They mention the premium subscription in the first line and then announce the specials in the second line. Specials are a frequent thing with the newer Hachette collections (the current 2000AD collection has 4 specials containing cover art). I am hoping that the specials are additional content on top of what is shown in the full collection photo.
I take it all back! Well that’s good but still poses a question of what us in a subscription have to do. Unless they aren’t part of the numbered bit? More like an A-D you can choose to add.
Or as I say, maybe if you’ve been in from the start then you get them for normal price?
What do the other Hachette publications do regarding special issues?
They warn you in advance a special issue will be coming with your next delivery and you need to email them if you do not want to receive it.
The special issues usually cost most but have more content (so might be double sized in the events of books) so I could see them having a vehicle or whole squad with Conquest.
The Silver Templars is a very nice scheme, silver with yellow shoulder pads and black trim.
Also a tiny bit of background in the first issue "The Silver Templars of Novaris rely upon audacity and daring coupled with incredible one on one skill as duellists."
Okay this needs to come over to North America, I would be all over it! I was under the impression that the first few issues had all the good stuff and it would go downhill quickly from there but the picture of what you have at the end of the 80 issues is very impressive.
At the very least I suspect ebay will have a lot of very cheap models going up in the near future!
The paint brush included is a ‘starter brush’ not near the quality of he other brushes they sell in GW.
I imagine this might be what’s in the starter paint sets and such? Never bought one of those.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh guys,
I was just able to add my subscription number from my email to my account on Hachette, so it’s obviosuly gone live a bit before.
Just pasted the number into the Add Subscriptions section
boundless08 wrote: Friend of mine picked up one this weekend in the local bookstore. only 3 quid for 3 intercessors and paints, might pick up a few myself!
phillv85 wrote: The brush is slightly different to the starter brushes in the paint sets from GW. It feels incredibly cheap.
Very much so, I will use it for basing and other messy jobs.
Still glad that I got 3 copies of issue 1 from Forbidden planet for £7.50 odd delivered, that cost is the same as the RRP of one of the issues three paints. You will always use the Abaddon Black and Retributor is my go to gold. Throw in three messy job brushes, 9 Primaris Marines and I am very happy.
Yeah I can’t complain for the deal.
Really depends how the issues go up to Christmas as to how much further I’ll go.
Gives long enough to see how it builds up.
Trouble is, I’ll get all the DI stuff first I’d imagine, which is the stuff I already have..
I just don’t have an army using Blue, so now I have loads of it for no reason..
phillv85 wrote: The brush is slightly different to the starter brushes in the paint sets from GW. It feels incredibly cheap.
Very much so, I will use it for basing and other messy jobs.
Still glad that I got 3 copies of issue 1 from Forbidden planet for £7.50 odd delivered, that cost is the same as the RRP of one of the issues three paints. You will always use the Abaddon Black and Retributor is my go to gold. Throw in three messy job brushes, 9 Primaris Marines and I am very happy.
Yeah it's still a great deal. I'm doing my kill team scenery heavily rusted, so I'll use one of those cheap brushes to plaster Typhus Corrosion all over it.
I'd guess that the competitions closed as the links gone from the website (it was probably intended for customers during the test run earlier in the year)
That’s fine as long as I’m not going crazy and missing it.
As sometimes when I was on the site I saw it and other times not, but wasn’t looking for it so was never sure where I’d seen it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Although it was there literally days ago, which is odd they kept it that long if so..
Danny76 wrote: I suppose shops may have issue 1 out before the 29th anyway, considering Forbidden Planet had theirs in and posted already.
So I guess we won’t get 1&2 posted out to us until the 5th then?
Do Hachette normally send the block of four issues when the last in that lot is due out?
They usually group the deliveries for a month in one batch, so it's possible you won't get a months mags until the end of it when all have been released, it is how the original run was of conquest was advertised, though the email I had about the free issues for being subbed to that was issue one was going out on 29/08/2018. It is what happens with the 200ad one I'm subbed too and they somehow manage to make that take and age to arrive.
For those wondering about the cost of Forbidden Planet's international postage, my copy of the first issue arrived in a box 21½" by 10" by 6½" (550x410x160mm).
Aeneades wrote: They do. However we are getting a first delivery of 1-2 which should be sent next week. Second delivery will be 3-6.
Yeah I know, it’s the date I was wondering for 1&2.
As Nultaar says, we are getting stuff last and slow, which is what I was expecting.. :(
Just got off the phone with them, had to change the delivery address for the sub, their rep said the first part had been posted on the 24th so it should arrive tomorrow or the day after. Now what is arriving I don't know, could be issue one or could be all four as my subcripiton section of their site doesn't have any listed yet. The take away question from this is why can't I change the delivery address or subscription level via their website.
Edit: According to their new subcripiton part the first delivery is Issue 1 and 2.
I suppose there is no service to ship issues to the USA? I'd definitely be interested in having a subscription delivered somewhere and then get monthly or bimonthly mailings across the Atlantic.
Process wrote: Does anybody know what retailers are stocking this? and when the general release date is?
Specifically are WH Smiths stockists?
Forbidden Planet are selling it via their web store, I assume they'll be selling it in stores too. I'm going to see if I can pick up another copy tomorrow from Tesco but I assume WH SMiths would have the firest couple issues as they usually carry most of the first issues for partworks.
Just doing my morning catch up with the sports news on Sky and Conquest had a 30 second TV advert on, makes sense with today being the street date for issue 1.
Seems me delivery should be here soon, as it was processed on 24th August.
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judgedoug wrote: I suppose there is no service to ship issues to the USA? I'd definitely be interested in having a subscription delivered somewhere and then get monthly or bimonthly mailings across the Atlantic.
Hit up the Loot Group in my sig, provided you’re on Facebook. Helpful Nerds Being Helpful!
Hung around in WH Smiths with a few other shifty looking nerds as the boxes were being opened and the contents put out,
the manager was pleased as we decimated the stock as he had a Marvel Superheroes and a toy car partworks also launching today, and not enough space to put them in
Just noticed that I've not actually been charged for my Forbidden Planet preorder, does anyone have experience when they actually put the payment through? IIRC their website said they'd be getting issue 5 in around the 7th of October.
As an aside - I bloody hate that, just charge the sodding card when I make the order so I don't have to bother remembering that such and such is going to come out of this or that account on whatever date. If I want to cancel I can cancel, that's what the distance selling regs are for.
They had loads in my local W H Smith this morning, bout 12 copies. The brush feels like any normal starter brush like you get in the paint+models sets.
Yodhrin wrote: Just noticed that I've not actually been charged for my Forbidden Planet preorder, does anyone have experience when they actually put the payment through? IIRC their website said they'd be getting issue 5 in around the 7th of October.
As an aside - I bloody hate that, just charge the sodding card when I make the order so I don't have to bother remembering that such and such is going to come out of this or that account on whatever date. If I want to cancel I can cancel, that's what the distance selling regs are for.
Ten for himself - that will give him 3 full strength squads. And three for a mate who's just starting on Space Marines. The bloke in the shop sent someone off to get some more out the back shop.
Black paint will get used, gold will take a bit longer, then there's a lifetime supply of Macragge Blue.
£5 gets me 2 sets of Auspex dudes, regular Intercessors, and a better Sergeant pose for the squads. With a bit of cutting and some bitz I can kitbash one of the regulars into an Auxiliary Grenade Launcher or something.
I have 1 coming from Hachette and 3 that have already arrived from Forbidden Planet. Had a quick attempt last night at adjusting the marine poses. I reckon they can be switched around a bit to vary them but need ideas for the empty/auspex hands. I figure a couple can have bolt pistols and I might be able to fashion some to be holding grenades. That is the only thing holding me back from picking up a couple more copies. That and the Macragge Blue, of course!
I needed the black and gold for my Custodes, and the blue will be donated to my friend who is a massive Ultrasmurf fan boy. The kick-start to my new Primaris Minotaurs force proceeds well!
I've been pondering doing a small Primaris force of Celestial Lions, which are gold with blue accents. This works out quite well! I probably won't get every issue, but 3 Intercessors and 3 Reivers will make a great kill-team, for example, and getting characters like the primaris apothecary for £8 rather than £18 or whatever is a no-brainer.
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Amazing, some scalper already has a copy of issue 1 up on the popular auction site for 8.99 with another £1 postage. Some people.
Must be a little bit touched in the head, since you can order back issues from Hachette anyway. Or just hoping to catch someone who doesn't know that. Either way, yeah, scalpers are scum
Haven’t looked in any shops today as I got multiples from forbidden planet.
If shipped on the 24th I’d be expecting it already really, so hopefully it comes tomorrow. :(
Yeah I’ll end with all this Blue, thinking I’ll have to start a blue force of something. But what, don’t want to to UM, but maybe another Primaris Force that uses Blue..
I dunno, something I’m sure..
Danny76 wrote: Haven’t looked in any shops today as I got multiples from forbidden planet.
If shipped on the 24th I’d be expecting it already really, so hopefully it comes tomorrow. :(
Yeah I’ll end with all this Blue, thinking I’ll have to start a blue force of something. But what, don’t want to to UM, but maybe another Primaris Force that uses Blue..
I dunno, something I’m sure..
Basically I just want the Intercessors and Reivers and it says that if you buy the first two issues, you would get the 3rd free.
From their FAQ
"You can cancel at any time giving 28 days notice - please contact our Customer Service Team via telephone, post or email. If you contact the team by writing, please include your name and subscription reference. Please note that it can take up to 28 days to deliver your back copies from receiving your request."
Yeah, you’d pay for delivery 1 (£7), then delivery 2 (£24 instead of £32, containing four issues - but bear in mind then you’ll get the super LT model too!
Otherwise just buy issue 1 and 3. £10, instead.
2 sprues you want, 4 paints, brush.
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Just doing my morning catch up with the sports news on Sky and Conquest had a 30 second TV advert on, makes sense with today being the street date for issue 1.
Though one point to add, the paints are on it as we know we will be getting those.
But the brushes are on here too.
First time I looked at the image I just thought, yeah the brush set from the subscriber deal coming with one of the later deliveries, but the first deliveries’ tools aren’t on it.
So those must be in addition to any subscriber benefit - which would be cool if so..
That’s 3 good brushes on top of the starter one on the right..
Just go with Forbidden Planet, particularly if you’re wanting 2-3, as it is cheap with the postage spread across a few copies.
All the shops are hunted through by bargain hunters/resellers I’d guess. They’re always quick off the mark
Totally sold out where I live, so just grabbed 3 copies of the first direct. Think il just order the ones I want as and when.
Don’t want the death guard minis anyhow so will just be going for the marines and terrain.
The subscription might be a while. Forbidden Planet have moved the issue 2 release date back a week. Mad Doc Grotsnik on here said it's not uncommon for their partworks to do this early on to gain traction.
Two weeks is the norm for the first issue of a partworks if it's a weekly (most partworks are fortnightly or monthly so weekly is the exception). The extra week will also mean issue 1 is still on sale when the schools go back which should increase word of mouth a little.
I have yet to see the advert myself but several workmates have asked me about it as they saw it instead. Turns out a few of their sprogs seemed more than a little interested in it when they saw it with them too. XD Gave Em a few of my white dwarves to flick through and the issue 1 of conquest magazine and poster to look at.
Seems I might get more Welshmen/women into the plastic crack! Truth be told I suspect a few of them might start it themselves...
phillv85 wrote: The subscription might be a while. Forbidden Planet have moved the issue 2 release date back a week. Mad Doc Grotsnik on here said it's not uncommon for their partworks to do this early on to gain traction.
It’s because they’ve said they had sent them out on the 24th, so it’s be too late ok that sense. Just a larger gap between Delivery 1 and 2, if they push it back.
Got 5 from w h smiths this morning left 1 on the shelf. Its such good value at £2 a go......so much blue but my nids are maggrage blue so no wastage. He he. Now all i need to do is pick a chapter to paint them as.
I took a look at a copy of Issue 1 today. Good value at £2 for 3 Intercessors and 3 full size pots of paint, but he magazine itself had very little content and appeared to be aimed at getting kids into the hobby...
dropped for a subscription on this just now, I've sort of got a marine army this lot will be going to (the blue paint will have to sit to the side, the rest I can probably use though), Mrs L has Death Guard, when she gets round to doing anything with the models that have been primed and ready for over a year now..
terrain is always useful.
the actual magazines may well end up going to relatives offspring or something
£32 a month isn't massively cheap, but its not massively expensive compared to whats in here, but for me, perhaps critically, I can maybe actually keep up with the building and painting at this rate.
just have until the first lot arrives to get my side of the starter set painted... (I've got a bit further than just primer.. honest)
Daedleh wrote: I got to WHSmiths in Halifax today just in time to see a lass pick up every single copy they had and take them to the till.
Still copies in Magazine World on commercial street.
Is that the one underneath what used to be a nerd shop?
On another note- Buying up to 5 i get- thats 3 squads of intercessors for less than a tenner... but 5+, seriously what is the reasoning for this? Just seems like a dick move when there's lots of people who are missing out.
Worst still some (and by that I mean a miniscule amount) have actually sold for that. My Asda had copies in this morning, they are not hard to miss as the backing card is huge.
regraham wrote: Hey all, I wrote a review if anyone wants more details on what this is like before splashing out the £1.99 it costs to get > £20 worth of stuff!
regraham wrote: Hey all, I wrote a review if anyone wants more details on what this is like before splashing out the £1.99 it costs to get > £20 worth of stuff!
you reviewed three space marines and three pots of paint? ...fair enough?
I mean, clearly you haven't actually looked at his review. It's fairly comprehensive, detailing the contents of the magazine,and giving some generous pros and cons. Most of us probably don't need to have a review to convince us to purchase this magazine in the first place, but there's no need to be so detrimental to someone for doing so.
You're right, I haven't looked at it - as I've got the thing in front of me and don't particularly need a second opinion. It seemed like a weird thing to write a full review of, is all.
Well after ordering 3 last night online my local smiths in Yeovil has a box full this morning so the wife’s picked up another copy so that gives me some more guys to add to squads.
Can’t wait to start chopping them up to see what I can do to them.
ElvisJuice wrote: You're right, I haven't looked at it - as I've got the thing in front of me and don't particularly need a second opinion. It seemed like a weird thing to write a full review of, is all.
His review is of the first issue but in comparison to the series as a whole and is a comprehensive review not just of this first issue but highlights issues with Hachette and the subscription process.
It's a good review and highlights what many of us suspect - that experienced gamers will snap up several copies each at this bargain price but then won't bother with later issues.
And to be fair to the reviewer in question he quickly edited a mistake about monthly subscription cost when I pointed out to him it was £32 (well £31.96) rather than £36 a month .
I do wonder if each of the boards in the upgraded subscription is Moon Base Klaisus size (4 foot by 4 foot odd) or another size? That kind of information would help consumers to decide whether to upgrade or not.
Looks like the early nerd catches the cheap mini's.
Later on that night:
Subscribed online plus 4 extra copies of issue 1.
Mission accomplished.
Just got back from Bluewater - they had 4 or 5 copies on the shelf, although several have the clamshell packs busted and sprues are laying loose!! I picked up one copy but thinking I should have go a few more (also picked up the 1:43 supercar partworks for my son with a Ferrari LaFerrari). May go back tomorrow for more Primaris Marines if they haven't sold out by then...
My WH Smiths have had a 2nd delivery so if you couldn't find it initially/it had sold out locally it may be worth popping in if you're passing one over the weekend
Also worth noting that with the second deliveries I think there has been a running change, the brushes I saw in-store today all had the little plastic tubes over the bristles whilst the ones I received from Forbidden Planet did not.
Looks like the early nerd catches the cheap mini's.
Later on that night:
Subscribed online plus 4 extra copies of issue 1.
Mission accomplished.
Just got back from Bluewater - they had 4 or 5 copies on the shelf, although several have the clamshell packs busted and sprues are laying loose!! I picked up one copy but thinking I should have go a few more (also picked up the 1:43 supercar partworks for my son with a Ferrari LaFerrari). May go back tomorrow for more Primaris Marines if they haven't sold out by then...
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:My WH Smiths have had a 2nd delivery so if you couldn't find it initially/it had sold out locally it may be worth popping in if you're passing one over the weekend
Oh great. They are all re-stocking now that I've ordered mine online and will have to wait up to 28 days for delivery.
Looks like my luck is holding up as usual...
If I'm lucky, the extra 4 I ordered may come much sooner.
ElvisJuice wrote: You're right, I haven't looked at it - as I've got the thing in front of me and don't particularly need a second opinion. It seemed like a weird thing to write a full review of, is all.
I mean, the review isn’t for you. Who reads reviews of something they’ve got.
But then again, why comment at all, just to Troll..
It’s a review of Warhammer Conquest a new monthly subscription, do you take it out, what’s the content, is it worth it, beginners only etc. All that kind of thing.
He didn’t say he reviewed “3 space marines and 3 pots of paint” as you put it.
Expressing a bit of surprise / bafflement isn't really trolling, and if it isn't aimed at me why link it on here - who is reading this thread that isn't already familiar with the thing by this point?
>He didn’t say he reviewed “3 space marines and 3 pots of paint” as you put it.
He pretty much literally did say that:
"I wrote a review if anyone wants more details on what this is like before splashing out the £1.99"
Anyhew, like I said, it seemed weird, I understand now he's gone into it a bit more, problem solved. Let it go
Reference the premium option, the new email makes it clear that the current picture is the first of four sets. The second set will be revealed soon.
For only £1.50 extra per issue, you'll get 4 Premium Wargear sets across the course of your collection to enhance your gameplay including exclusive fold-out gaming boards, dice, reference cards and more! Here's the first set - set 2 will be revealed soon!
It's still a gamble but at least we know there is more than just what we've seen so far. Shame the hachette staff on Facebook and so have seemed incapable of giving a full explanation so far.
Additionally, from Facebook:
We know you’re eager to get your first delivery so here's an update for you...
If you subscribed before 5pm today (31st August), your issues 01 and 02 will be allocated this weekend and you should receive them around next weekend.
If you were a test subscriber, your issues 01 and 02 were allocated last weekend and you can expect to receive them by Monday / Tuesday of next week.
alphaecho wrote: Reference the premium option, the new email makes it clear that the current picture is the first of four sets. The second set will be revealed soon.
For only £1.50 extra per issue, you'll get 4 Premium Wargear sets across the course of your collection to enhance your gameplay including exclusive fold-out gaming boards, dice, reference cards and more! Here's the first set - set 2 will be revealed soon!
It's still a gamble but at least we know there is more than just what we've seen so far. Shame the hachette staff on Facebook and so have seemed incapable of giving a full explanation so far.
Additionally, from Facebook:
We know you’re eager to get your first delivery so here's an update for you...
If you subscribed before 5pm today (31st August), your issues 01 and 02 will be allocated this weekend and you should receive them around next weekend.
If you were a test subscriber, your issues 01 and 02 were allocated last weekend and you can expect to receive them by Monday / Tuesday of next week.
We hope you enjoy your collection when it comes!
Way too much of a gamble for Premium imho. And yeah the staff aren’t helpful at all, I emailed querying various things, dates of issue, when bits will arrive lots of stuff. They answered just saying 1&2 will come together and 3-6 following.
Not even a question I asked
Ah so should get Mon/Tues hopefully. So wasn’t posted last weekend, but allocated. Despite what they’d mentioned to others about post.
Good they’re updating people at least..
Way too much of a gamble for Premium imho. And yeah the staff aren’t helpful at all, I emailed querying various things, dates of issue, when bits will arrive lots of stuff. They answered just saying 1&2 will come together and 3-6 following.
Not even a question I asked
Calling in is exceptionally frustrating. The lines/headsets/somethings?? are of terrible quality, and it's extremely hard to understand what the staff are saying. I had received an email telling me that I'd get three free issues for being a test subscriber, but I never received the follow-up email asking me for my payment details.
It was extremely difficult to get this idea through to the people on the phone because they didn't know about the test period at all, and subscriber numbers from the test period are in a different format to the current subscriber numbers (because of course they are!). None of my data was in their systems and I went to a second-level service agent to finally (hopefully) secure my first delivery. I still don't know if I'll get anything and I haven't received the promised email follow-up to the call.
Way too much of a gamble for Premium imho. And yeah the staff aren’t helpful at all, I emailed querying various things, dates of issue, when bits will arrive lots of stuff. They answered just saying 1&2 will come together and 3-6 following.
Not even a question I asked
Calling in is exceptionally frustrating. The lines/headsets/somethings?? are of terrible quality, and it's extremely hard to understand what the staff are saying. I had received an email telling me that I'd get three free issues for being a test subscriber, but I never received the follow-up email asking me for my payment details.
It was extremely difficult to get this idea through to the people on the phone because they didn't know about the test period at all, and subscriber numbers from the test period are in a different format to the current subscriber numbers (because of course they are!). None of my data was in their systems and I went to a second-level service agent to finally (hopefully) secure my first delivery. I still don't know if I'll get anything and I haven't received the promised email follow-up to the call.
Have you checked your spam box? The follow up email could have ended up in there.
Have you checked your spam box? The follow up email could have ended up in there.
Nope, nothing.
Most of what the reps said sounded like it was being read off a script. The script told the lady to tell me I'd have her name and she'd send me an email - in the end I got neither (I probably wouldn't have understood the name if she had said it, the line was so bad).
At least I know she got my mailing address right so there's hope.
Have you checked your spam box? The follow up email could have ended up in there.
Nope, nothing.
Most of what the reps said sounded like it was being read off a script. The script told the lady to tell me I'd have her name and she'd send me an email - in the end I got neither (I probably wouldn't have understood the name if she had said it, the line was so bad).
At least I know she got my mailing address right so there's hope.
You create a new Hatchette account, and then add your subscription number to it. Then you add your payment details to that.
Ben2 wrote: You create a new Hatchette account, and then add your subscription number to it. Then you add your payment details to that.
It took a few days after I received the subscription number for the Hachette website to accept it. And then at least a day for the payment details to appear once it let me enter those.
My wife picked up more copies for me while i was at work - she cleared out our local McColl's... She told me the shop assistant even commented they were selling multiple copies throughout the day and had never seen a partwork sell out so quickly - they were looking to order more in...
So bought my first set on multi part primaris the other day and now have the marines from four issues. Well one sprue until the other three copies i ordered turn up.
Now my 6 yr old lad wants a sprue to him self, conveniently they are blue and that just happens to be his favourite colour.
He’s already asking if there’s any spare tanks in the loft he can have. Hhhm really shouldn’t have taken him to warhammer world last Easter. Since then all he’s wanted is marines, the wife’s been rolling here eyes since. Lol
I picked up 2 copies from WH Smith didn't really want any more monopose models than that as I've already got all the marines from the dark Imperium set.
nedsta wrote: Picked up two in Asda today and two in Smith's on release day, not a bad little haul for 8 quid.
*cries in anguish*
Asda here doesn't appear to be carrying it, or many part works annoyingly, more annoying after it took 45 mins to drive the few miles home because they have "improved" a junction.
In London on Wednesday, likely walking past a few newsagents so will be trying for a haul then
nedsta wrote: Picked up two in Asda today and two in Smith's on release day, not a bad little haul for 8 quid.
*cries in anguish*
Asda here doesn't appear to be carrying it, or many part works annoyingly, more annoying after it took 45 mins to drive the few miles home because they have "improved" a junction.
In London on Wednesday, likely walking past a few newsagents so will be trying for a haul then
Order direct from hatchette bud that’s what I did in the end then Sod’s law the local smiths had another delivery the day after so grabbed another copy.
nedsta wrote: Picked up two in Asda today and two in Smith's on release day, not a bad little haul for 8 quid.
*cries in anguish*
Asda here doesn't appear to be carrying it, or many part works annoyingly, more annoying after it took 45 mins to drive the few miles home because they have "improved" a junction.
In London on Wednesday, likely walking past a few newsagents so will be trying for a haul then
Order direct from hatchette bud that’s what I did in the end then Sod’s law the local smiths had another delivery the day after so grabbed another copy.
have subscribed for the main body of this, just fancied a few extra of the first, and likely second, may order a couple as back issues if I can't find any
nedsta wrote: Picked up two in Asda today and two in Smith's on release day, not a bad little haul for 8 quid.
*cries in anguish*
Asda here doesn't appear to be carrying it, or many part works annoyingly, more annoying after it took 45 mins to drive the few miles home because they have "improved" a junction.
In London on Wednesday, likely walking past a few newsagents so will be trying for a haul then
FYI - It’s not being carried in any of the Train Staions WHSmiths or so I was told at both the Liverpool Street stores. They recommended the Chancery Lane shop if your in that part of Town but I’m sure it’ll be at plenty of other locations.
nedsta wrote: Picked up two in Asda today and two in Smith's on release day, not a bad little haul for 8 quid.
*cries in anguish*
Asda here doesn't appear to be carrying it, or many part works annoyingly, more annoying after it took 45 mins to drive the few miles home because they have "improved" a junction.
In London on Wednesday, likely walking past a few newsagents so will be trying for a haul then
FYI - It’s not being carried in any of the Train Staions WHSmiths or so I was told at both the Liverpool Street stores. They recommended the Chancery Lane shop if your in that part of Town but I’m sure it’ll be at plenty of other locations.
I'm going to High Holborn so Chancery lane is just a short walk, ta for that hint
the ones at mainline stations are invariably rubbish
bought 4 in smiths, they had literally piles of them. Was gonna get more then the hobby karma in me thought of the kids that might not see them and get into the hobby so i left it at 4.
Nope. You have to set up your subscription at issues 1-4 to get the gifts
Automatically Appended Next Post: And I think possibly delivery one to get the modelling set. (Issues 1-2).
If you don’t take it out there you won’t get issue 3 free either I’d imagine? Not sure though, that might come as long as you order for delivery 2 at least (issues 3-6)
Random one, has anyone worked out how many sprues are in the actual contents image? Would help to see if any come more than one sprue or if it's one per issue
Won’t help, they have said “most issues” come with models, so there’s a bit of leeway there.
I’d think the big tanks could be 2-3 issues maybe..
Hopefully nothing else.
I would think that they’d give models in an issue, then a couple without to even it out for subscribers paying monthly,
But how do you stop single issue buyers taking advantage of that.. I guess maybe really limited copies of issues once they’ve got their set amount of Subs, that way it will mostly sell out quick on the back orders (by then there won’t be any in shops..)
Thebiggesthat wrote: Really pleased all these pesky new hobbyists will find it sold out, just so people can horde paint and primaris
*rolls eyes*
this happens with just about every single partwork, the companies behind them are well aware this happens, and they print a lot more of the first few loss leading teaser issues than the rest, its essentially advertising for the subscriptions.
after the first few issues a lot of places won't be carrying it unless specifically ordered anyway.
Will be interesting to see how the various sprues are packaged up, the subscription ones come four at a time, I find myself wondering if you are likely to find a larger kit comes with its frames as a "four weekly", a frame with each issue then maybe a paint or two part way through it.
when you consider the 40k starter set is in here you are going to have various issues with frames you can't actually use until you have a couple more issues anyway.
also expecting all the more juicy multi-part stuff to feature much later in the series to avoid people waiting until they have that then cancelling.
Will be interesting to see how the various sprues are packaged up, the subscription ones come four at a time, I find myself wondering if you are likely to find a larger kit comes with its frames as a "four weekly", a frame with each issue then maybe a paint or two part way through it.
This is what someone at GW was saying yesterday - it will be subscription only after issue 4 if I understood (that may be via a shop or direct) and the bigger kits will turn up as a complete model in the delivery, but effectively a sprue per issue type of thing (but as you get 4 issues per delivery you will get the complete model).
Will be interesting to see how the various sprues are packaged up, the subscription ones come four at a time, I find myself wondering if you are likely to find a larger kit comes with its frames as a "four weekly", a frame with each issue then maybe a paint or two part way through it.
This is what someone at GW was saying yesterday - it will be subscription only after issue 4 if I understood (that may be via a shop or direct) and the bigger kits will turn up as a complete model in the delivery, but effectively a sprue per issue type of thing (but as you get 4 issues per delivery you will get the complete model).
This someone at GW better call up Forbidden Planet and tell them it's sub-only, since they're taking preorders for single issues well past #4.
It’s not being sold passed issue 4 in GW shops. Most news agents are also unlikely to have post issue 4 as that’s when the free returns end. WH Smith’s and Forbidden Planet still stock some partworks after that point, they just can’t return the issues so take a bit of a risk.
Smiths tend to only carry the graphic novel partworks after issue 4 but this is the first miniatures one in a long time so they may also stock Conquest.
Aeneades wrote: It’s not being sold passed issue 4 in GW shops. Most news agents are also unlikely to have post issue 4 as that’s when the free returns end. WH Smith’s and Forbidden Planet still stock some partworks after that point, they just can’t return the issues so take a bit of a risk.
Smiths tend to only carry the graphic novel partworks after issue 4 but this is the first miniatures one in a long time so they may also stock Conquest.
generally post the free returns places stock it based on customers reservations, but hachette will likely still flog them.
for the larger models they may have to be ordered in blocks of four though
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The Phazer wrote: Huh, I just saw a TV commercial for Conquest during Hollyoaks.
Well there you have the obvious 40k player base then, perhaps every single TFG watches Hollyoaks and this is why they are bitter and twisted (joke)
The Phazer wrote: Huh, I just saw a TV commercial for Conquest during Hollyoaks.
Well there you have the obvious 40k player base then, perhaps every single TFG watches Hollyoaks and this is why they are bitter and twisted (joke)
We can joke about it but they'll hit a whole bunch of younger people doing it, and some of them will pick it up.
The point of GW doing this is to massively raise visibility and TV and facebook advertising is going to do that. It worked really well for LotR, and GW and hatchette will have planned this to do the same for 40k. Particularly after the BL partwork.
ohh - so for me to get all the freebies I need to subscribe from issue 2? (was planning to just buy that in the local co-op which has been stocking this) and then think about subscribing from either 3 or 4 onwards
You might still if you sub 3 or 4, just not issue 3 free potentially unless you do it before 3-6 ships (though if you sub online and get all of those even if it’s when 4 is out you might.
But they said after Issue 4 subs it’s no free gifts at all).
Bear in mind they expect all the issue 1/2 shop buyers to discover it and then sub, so they have to allow some leeway for the freebies for them.
So I’d say yours safe until the date issue 5 ‘launches’ (though it won’t be coming individually, I’d assume that’s the date it’s cutting off)
Automatically Appended Next Post: You might still if you sub 3 or 4, just not issue 3 free potentially unless you do it before 3-6 ships (though if you sub online and get all of those even if it’s when 4 is out you might.
But they said after Issue 4 subs it’s no free gifts at all).
Bear in mind they expect all the issue 1/2 shop buyers to discover it and then sub, so they have to allow some leeway for the freebies for them.
So I’d say yours safe until the date issue 5 ‘launches’ (though it won’t be coming individually, I’d assume that’s the date it’s cutting off)
ok, ta. I'll probably pick up the 2nd issue in store then, then maybe get the sub. (The wife had a look, and as we do, checked the 'regular' rather than 'introductory' price - (something we do to point out costs of part magazines to the kids when they ask for sticker albums etc) - so not sure how i'll hide this...
In case it's useful to anyone. After having no luck finding it anywhere on my London commute, I happened to be in Devizes this weekend. WHSmith had loads. Bought 2 and left some for the rest of you.
Just a cautionary tale. I decided to subscribe to Warhammer 40,000 Conquest with the understanding that I could cancel at anytime.
After some soul searching I realised that a lot of push fit Primaris (so premoulded shoulderpads) and Death Guard I wouldn't use would just be a waste of funds I opted to cancel.
This was when I hit the first roadblock. The company doesn't actually allow a cancel anytime (such as Netflix, Amazon Prime etc. where cancellation is immediate), but in fact requires 28 days notice. So I decided to ring them and implement the 14 day cooling off period outlined on the FCA (Financial Conduct Authority) website...second roadblock.
The call center workers are unhelpful, aggressive and generally blasé; I have now called on 4 seperate occassions and they seem either unable or uninterested in assisting with cancellation.
I have since contacted my bank who have informed me that when Hachette makes their first withdrawal I can dispute that payment and place blocks to further prevent future withdrawals.
I honestly don't trust the company and would advise anyone who is considering subscribing to at least take what I've written to heart. Additionally the following link is for HachettePartworks Trustpilot reviews and they're pretty damning.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.hachettepartworks.com
Great post Foxfyre, I have been surprised not to have seen much talk of their customer services on the thread. I was just about to subscribe myself but did a similar online search and there are some fairly damning reviews about the attitude to receiving lost or undelivered items, cancelling subscriptions etc. In the end I decided that no matter how tempting a subscription is it is just not worth any similar hassle and your post has pretty much confirmed this. It's still a great deal for the first few issues so will keep an eye out in stores and try to buy back issues off the website.
The 28 days notice thing is very clearly mentioned on the website/ relevant printed material several times. Personally I am paying by direct debit so if anything goes wrong they can go whistle.
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Personally I am paying by direct debit so if anything goes wrong they can go whistle.
I was thinking along similar lines, but that link provided by Foxfyre has reports from several people who did so only to have continuing deliveries with demands for payment. I suspect being hauled into a small claims court is too much hassle for some, including me.
Looking at the website it's mentioned once on How It Works at the very bottom of the page with an asterisk (though there's nothing on that page that has an asterisk to tie it to).
It is not mentioned on the Home page and though it is mentioned in the FAQ it is likely to only be seen when someone attempts to cancel at which point you are tied to a contract for a full 28 days from the time of cancellation (not cancel anytime). This means you are still liable for the next £33 they take.
So the 28 days notice is mentioned twice on the whole website, once under the link for the FAQs and once in the FAQs.
The 28 days notice isn't even a major issue with the 14 day cooling off period they're required to give, but the issues I've had even getting them to even cancel my account means I would rather let everyone know of my experience.
Five days after I tried to cancel for the first time could nudge someone into the next 28 day period and therefore nets Hachette a further £33. This is a dirty business practice plain and simple.
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Personally I am paying by direct debit so if anything goes wrong they can go whistle.
I was thinking along similar lines, but that link provided by Foxfyre has reports from several people who did so only to have continuing deliveries with demands for payment. I suspect being hauled into a small claims court is too much hassle for some, including me.
To be fair some of those reviews are trivial and contain people that do not know the difference between "loose" and "lose". I assume that reading terms and conditions and FAQs is beyond them.
"POOR EXCUSE OF A COMPANY .AFTER SIGNING UP FOR A SUBSCRIPTION WEEKS LATER TOLD IT WAS A TRIAL RUN !!!!!.
BEST AVOIDED"
"Ordered something a long time ago and have not received it yet. I want my money back but don't even know how to contact them"
That said entering into anything like this with an attitude of caveat emptor is very sensible. Your money, your choice.
Foxfyre wrote: Looking at the website it's mentioned once on How It Works at the very bottom of the page with an asterisk (though there's nothing on that page that has an asterisk to tie it to).
It is not mentioned on the Home page and though it is mentioned in the FAQ it is likely to only be seen when someone attempts to cancel at which point you are tied to a contract for a full 28 days from the time of cancellation (not cancel anytime). This means you are still liable for the next £33 they take.
So the 28 days notice is mentioned twice on the whole website, once under the link for the FAQs and once in the FAQs.
The 28 days notice isn't even a major issue with the 14 day cooling off period they're required to give, but the issues I've had even getting them to even cancel my account means I would rather let everyone know of my experience.
Five days after I tried to cancel for the first time could nudge someone into the next 28 day period and therefore nets Hachette a further £33. This is a dirty business practice plain and simple.
I know about the 28 days thing, and I've not even subscribed. I don't know why anyone would enter a contract without reading the cancellation terms.
Having said that - the reluctance to sort out within the 14 days is gakky, and they deserve to be called out on it - and reported to the appropriate body (I don't know who that would be?)
I have had several past subscriptions with Hachette and had no problems cancelling, just sent them an e-mail and they cancelled with immediate effect. Never call the call centre, always send an e-mail (response time is usually less than 24 hours).
If any shipments get lost or damaged in the post then make sure you e-mail as well rather than call.
But I read all those reviews and as LTMW said some of those people are really something else..
You get bad reviews on everything, and I’d say half are always stupid people.
Once read a review on Amazon complaining about amazon itself, not the product at all - ridiculous!
On a Facebook post today GW stated that the board size for the upgraded subscription is "17 by "22 inches (approximately). So four of those boards makes a board bigger than Moon Base Klaisus.
Tried to call Hachette today... doesn't overly matter why..
Sweet mother of gork their phone system is terrible.
1st attempt, sounded like they were playing hold music through water, when they (eventually) answered at first the voice was so quiet I could hardly hear it, it was then seriously warbled, transferred to another department... which hung up instantly.
2nd attempt, rang, started the hold music, then hung up, music slightly clearer this time slightly
3rd attempt, marginally clearer, deteriorating to #1 in under a minute, answered, couldn't make out a word they were saying, due to the quality of the phone link.
sounds like they have a seriously poor VOIP connection
Sweet mother of gork their phone system is terrible.
1st attempt, sounded like they were playing hold music through water, when they (eventually) answered at first the voice was so quiet I could hardly hear it, it was then seriously warbled, transferred to another department... which hung up instantly.
2nd attempt, rang, started the hold music, then hung up, music slightly clearer this time slightly
3rd attempt, marginally clearer, deteriorating to #1 in under a minute, answered, couldn't make out a word they were saying, due to the quality of the phone link.
sounds like they have a seriously poor VOIP connection
I think the call center is in South Africa, so you can add intercontinental lag and an unfamiliar (to most) accent to the problem of poor VOIP.
Sweet mother of gork their phone system is terrible.
1st attempt, sounded like they were playing hold music through water, when they (eventually) answered at first the voice was so quiet I could hardly hear it, it was then seriously warbled, transferred to another department... which hung up instantly.
2nd attempt, rang, started the hold music, then hung up, music slightly clearer this time slightly
3rd attempt, marginally clearer, deteriorating to #1 in under a minute, answered, couldn't make out a word they were saying, due to the quality of the phone link.
sounds like they have a seriously poor VOIP connection
I think the call center is in South Africa, so you can add intercontinental lag and an unfamiliar (to most) accent to the problem of poor VOIP.
If I ever manage to get a line good enough to hear the accent I have a listen
never ceases to amaze how hard some companies make it to give them money
Looks like issue 2 was pushed back a week going by Forbidden Planet listings (and on basis they haven't sent mine out yet) to give issue 1 more time in the shops.
i have had my own experiences with this subscription over the last week and done a lot of legwork sand research on it, I considered the customer services issues i uncovered important enough not to bury in a general thread and so opened up a primer on Warhammer 4000 Conquest in 40K Discussions section here:
Still waiting on my first delivery as a result of the Trial Sub, they use Whistl fir shipping which is delivered final mile by the Post Office. I don't think they use Whistl's tracked services and if they do the consignment tracking number on the label.
Whistl tracked is only tracked until it is handed over to RM anyhow so isn't that useful.
Any here from the UK seen the Warhammer 40,000 Conquest adverts on TV over the past couple of days? They play on C4 during the 6PM Simpsons break... Gotta say, GW are targeting the right market. Never thought I'd ever see the day where Games Workshop are being advertised on prime time television.
Eiríkr wrote: Any here from the UK seen the Warhammer 40,000 Conquest adverts on TV over the past couple of days? They play on C4 during the 6PM Simpsons break... Gotta say, GW are targeting the right market. Never thought I'd ever see the day where Games Workshop are being advertised on prime time television.
That is Hachette not GW. It has long been a staple of partwork magazine companies to advertise on TV very heavily. Each subscription is a long term customer relationship lasting for the length of the subscription set. So the actual sales are concentrated at one point in time, at launch. Those who do not pick up issue 1 will not get 2, 3, 4, etc. So Hachette needs TV advertising for a window of about three weeks to get the subscriptions rolling then nobody will hear anything again.
GW is different it is low intensity and the sales period is persistent and ongoing. The business model cannot support Tv advertising the last time we have seen 'GW' TV advertisiing wasn't GW then either, it was for Space Crusade.
GW of course benefits heavily form Hachettes intensive efforts and are doing their best to cooperate at a high level. Its not just an IP deal, GW is providing stock at special discount to Hachette to fulfil the loss leader early issues that get people into subscriptions. From what I am now learning the massive spurt of issue 1 spam sales was not at Hachettes cost, they break even by getting the extra paints and minis from GW for pence. Hachette in turn has advertised on TV and shipped the loss leader at mad discount which leads directly into hobby intake. Its a win-win for both companies.,
Eiríkr wrote: Any here from the UK seen the Warhammer 40,000 Conquest adverts on TV over the past couple of days? They play on C4 during the 6PM Simpsons break... Gotta say, GW are targeting the right market. Never thought I'd ever see the day where Games Workshop are being advertised on prime time television.
I'm not sure about a prime time audience
because I was watching ITV4 the other day, say about noon, and in between episodes of Minder and The Sweeney, I saw this Warhammer advert.
God knows what the target audience was at that time.
Which was a surprise. If any non-Brit dakka member is wondering what Minder and The Sweeney are, then Wikipedia is your friend
Eiríkr wrote: Any here from the UK seen the Warhammer 40,000 Conquest adverts on TV over the past couple of days? They play on C4 during the 6PM Simpsons break... Gotta say, GW are targeting the right market. Never thought I'd ever see the day where Games Workshop are being advertised on prime time television.
I'm not sure about a prime time audience
because I was watching ITV4 the other day, say about noon, and in between episodes of Minder and The Sweeney, I saw this Warhammer advert.
God knows what the target audience was at that time.
Which was a surprise. If any non-Brit dakka member is wondering what Minder and The Sweeney are, then Wikipedia is your friend
Around lunch time, just as the summer holidays are ending and the kids are all sat doing their summer homework. Gee...it's a mind boggler
As Orlanth says, all the promotion and distribution is done by Hachette. GW are supplying the product and copy for the magazines, that's all; and I assume there'll be some sort of payments from Hachette to GW, but I don't know what form that will be - licencing, commission, whatever.
Eiríkr wrote: Any here from the UK seen the Warhammer 40,000 Conquest adverts on TV over the past couple of days? They play on C4 during the 6PM Simpsons break... Gotta say, GW are targeting the right market. Never thought I'd ever see the day where Games Workshop are being advertised on prime time television.
I'm not sure about a prime time audience
because I was watching ITV4 the other day, say about noon, and in between episodes of Minder and The Sweeney, I saw this Warhammer advert.
God knows what the target audience was at that time.
Which was a surprise. If any non-Brit dakka member is wondering what Minder and The Sweeney are, then Wikipedia is your friend
I wasn't aware that they were showing the advert on ITV4 at noon, but then I thought only housewives and the infirm watch ITV4 at that time of day. What are you doing at that time of day?
Well OK OK... I just thought it was neat to see a bit of Warhammer and Games Workshop on my television at 6PM. But if it's not really Games Workshop then who cares?
It's saturation advertising. You dont put ads out at peak times only, you place ads through the day. You never know when someone is watching. Its a reminder.
Please also remember that target audiences have variables. Kids may be at school at that time, but mums are not. Children, the actual target audience, might not be able to actually subscribe, they cant get Direct Debits. But when little Timmy comes home and wants a Warhammer 40000 Conquest subscription mum already knows a little bit about what he is asking for.
Daytime TV neatly hits disabled and unemployed customers, a sizable portion of GW customer base actually. JSA is about £70 week now maybe a little more. A poorer gamer can afford to set aside £8 of that.
Admittedly so far I have seen the advert on TV exactly once, but then I watch very little TV, and I just happened to be in the room when it aired bringing a cup of tea and doing medical stuff for my elderly and mostly chairbound father.
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AndrewGPaul wrote: As Orlanth says, all the promotion and distribution is done by Hachette. GW are supplying the product and copy for the magazines, that's all; and I assume there'll be some sort of payments from Hachette to GW, but I don't know what form that will be - licencing, commission, whatever.
Hachette will have a bulk deal at very low cost, possibly at some loss to GW at some points. Then there is the fee for the IP licence.
Lets face facts though. This is a GW product in disguise. GW staffers will have made most of the articles and there will be a lot of column inches that GW will have to write up, though Hachette writers can help they dont have authority to generate fluff themselves. The physical contents other than the magazine itself are all Citadel stock.
Hachette has to incur heavy losses getting the early seed issues out via discounts and Tv advertising. and I think many at GW would have forseen what would happen when Hachette sells three paints and three primarines for £2. It looks to me that they were braced for it wheras Hachette was not. As Hachette still need to pump out issue 1 and have it reach customers, and get past ebay hoarders who buy out whole shop stock there is a current second print run and a delay for issue 2. apparently GW has absorbed the cost of this by dismantling First Strike components from their own stock line plus a metric crapton of paints and handed them to Hachette at a price they can afford (likely small change) to achieve fulfillment.
Hachette MUST make the early subscription quotas, and I hear they have passed break even point already and are now working on building a workable profit. GW are in full assist, partly by a policy of one copy per customer within their own range of control. however that doesn't really help much as it gets Conquest out to existing customers. What GW wants is for new customers to get the product because this is be best hobbyist recruiting opportunity they have ever had. Kids come in with pocket money per week subscriptions, and are drip fed miniatures and hobby tools at a slow and affordable rate. By 2020 this intake will be conditioned painter-gamers with multiple 40K armies.
Two things are certain. First this could not have happened under older myopic GW leadership. Kirby and co with their 'max profits now' attitude could not have set up something like this and/or would not have adequately supported Hachette. Second it appear Hachette have wanted to do this for some time. here waas the trial run early this year, but also Hachette has a long running series of hardback Black Library books on their website I had no idea existed. This started January 2017 and is now up to issue 43.
Aye, I work four night shifts a week so have a more variable TV watching schedule than most. I have seen the ad in the mornings on Sky Sports, afternoon on many channels, 5pm Saturday on ITV just before World Of Sport Wrestling and in the evening and through the night elsewhere. There is a similar sports car part work that is doing similar saturation advertising, the business model is based upon hooking people early and getting them to subscribe.
Hachette will have a bulk deal at very low cost, possibly at some loss to GW at some points. Then there is the fee for the IP licence.
No loss to them really I’d imagine, the sprues for a lot of these kits will have been produced past the point of paying for moulds.
At that point it’s pence per mass of plastic.
Has anyone spotted Warhammer Conquest in the wild in the Netherlands/Benelux? I checked out my local newsagent last week, but didn't see anything (it was quite busy, so I didn't ask).
I'm looking for some cheap conversion material ;-)
Herbington wrote: Don't forget if you are on Sky or Virgin, your adverts are targeted towards you (or more correctly, your postcode).
You don't necessarily get the same adverts someone a few streets away gets.
In some limited cases they are. There's no ad replacement on Channel 4 for instance though (indeed, Sky and Channel 4 have been at odds over advertising on All4 via Sky boxes for literally years). The Hollyoaks advert was there on the main FTA broadcast feeds.
BrookM wrote: UK only for the time being, might be plans to port it to the US, but ROW unknown.
Wasn't there an image from Italy floating around with a €1,50 price on the cover? Or is was that a fake (in image or location) and was that someone from Ireland?
Evening, 1st post from a very long time lurker. Has anyone else had trouble adding payment details?
I registered way back in March and was quite excited when I got the email in Aug saying it was being released. As I had moved in the intervening period I phoned the helpline and managed to get my address amended. The agent on the other line told me my reference number which wasn't working would activate on 29 Aug and a second email would be sent to get my payment details and offering the ability to order the premium set (with the 4 extra sets).
Whilst I've been able to add the subscription which shows 3 issues due to be delivered to my current address as of 24 Aug with a balance owed of £0.00 I've yet to receive anything, including the fabled 2nd email. I've clicked everything I can on the actual Hatchette Partworks website but don't seem to be able to give them my money. The only option I appear to have is to add a second subscription... I've tried phoning again but can't get an answer and I've sent 2 'contact us' forms to them from their website since 29 Aug without response.
I managed to programme the good lady wife into picking an issue one up from WH Smiths earlier whilst I was at work, but am now concerned that I have been expunged or declared traitorous extremist on their system. Is anyone else having similar issues?
Previously, if you don't have payment details on the system they will still send the issues to you on credit and you can then pay them off upon receipt via the website. I am not certain if they use the same system here.
Ended up doing that for a previous graphic novel collection after my standing order was somehow cancelled and I couldn't be bothered to go through the hassle of sorting it back out.
Once you are 2 deliveries behind they will stop sending more issues until you pay (I forgot to pay until a chaser later turned up every single time).
at the end of the day if this brings in a few new players so much the better, have had one or two at work ask me about it, one because one of his offspring asked and one for themselves, this is not a large office.
they are however engineers and one views the cost of this as small change compared to his addiction to lego
It’s just rumor about this going to the US.
According to Hachette they haven’t ever send any part works outside of the UK of any kind, and currently have no plans to do so for any collections.
You can however order from them individual issues but I would imagine it costing a bomb.
I think the rumor was gaining traction as this is GW and maybe they’d do something, but unfortunately they aren’t really that involved so they won’t be paying our anything,
It’s down to Hachette expanding overseas, which I guess would require warehouses, staffing, subscribers etc.
(I know this would get subscribers as we gamers are everywhere, but they’d have to have success with multiple Partworks for it to be viable)
Hachette do release partworks in other countries and have partner companies they also use for countries where they don’t release directly. See this link for an example -
Flying_Fish wrote: Evening, 1st post from a very long time lurker. Has anyone else had trouble adding payment details?
I managed to add details when I went to their site on my laptop. The option did not appear to be available when using my tablet or phone. Which device have you been using?
Additionally, I haven't received my first delivery yet.
Battle Games in Middel Earth was available in a lot of countries, wasn’t it? Certainly was in the Netherlands - ended up introducing me to the world of miniature wargaming.
However, that was DeAgostini, not Hachette. I don’t think I’ve seen Hachette partworks out here before. I’m guessing a lot depends on whether a) Hachette wants to expand this to mainland Europe (they’d need a distributor for that, so might not happen if they don’t have one already), or b) if Hachette just has the license to publish in the UK and Ireland, and for mainland Europe, the partworks can be published by another publisher with an esablished distribution network.
Aeneades wrote: Previously, if you don't have payment details on the system they will still send the issues to you on credit and you can then pay them off upon receipt via the website. I am not certain if they use the same system here.
Ended up doing that for a previous graphic novel collection after my standing order was somehow cancelled and I couldn't be bothered to go through the hassle of sorting it back out.
Once you are 2 deliveries behind they will stop sending more issues until you pay (I forgot to pay until a chaser later turned up every single time).
Issue 1 has an offer in it for issues 2+3 plus the hobby kit all for 4.99 delivered and an option is given on the form for "invoice me later" , I used it because this offer is only usable with the paper form and I wasn't going to put my card details into the postal system! With stuff like this it's the best way as once you cancel, and have proof, then if they continue to send stuff to you it's legally yours. Obviously you have to abide by the stated notice period but after that, if they carry on sending, you've got free stuff.
Danny76 wrote: I stand corrected then!
I was told that by one of their email replies, glad to see their customer services know what they’re talking about
Automatically Appended Next Post: Bloody loads of countries on that list
I wonder if it’s only a few that have gone multi country, if big enough, I.e. Marvel.
Maybe GW could then, as they are already a worldwide company.
Hachette Livre are the largest publishing house in the world, of which Hachette Partworks is just one division. They dwarf GW. If they’d wanted to do this worldwide via their companies and partners they could have, but seems they underestimated demand.
We are extremely sorry to hear that the majority of subscribers have still not received their first dispatch. It appears that there was a problem with the first dispatch which was supposed to be sent last Friday. It has now come to our attention that this was not sent out until this Thursday.
We are investigating how this has happened and why as the publisher we were not made aware that this had occurred.
Everyone who subscribed before the end of August has now had their copies dispatched and we know that in some instances these have already arrived. The majority however will be arriving Saturday or early next week depending on how quickly Royal Mail delivers them.
We are sorry that we have not met the standards expected by you and apologise unreservedly.
Once you receive your first issues we hope that you will enjoy your new collection.
Best regards
Hachette Partworks Ltd
just posted on the facebook page, seems a fairly major mess up on the part of whatever subcontractor is putting this stuff in the post not to tell the person who pays the bill about, but at least Hachette now knows
(fingers crossed they do something good for the all effected subscribers too)
Though I suppose if we complain enough then maybe they’ll do something.
Trouble is we are already subscribed, so they already have our money (and the payment plans set up I guess.
Automatically Appended Next Post: But at least they made us aware.
Guess I’m stuck indoors until around 1pm then! Stupid post.
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Unexpected and smol bonus in Issue 2 is a thin card stock playing area. One side is just plain, the other has printed on Crates etc. It also comes with 6 D6. Haven’t broken them out of the packaging yet, but they more resemble cheap ones from your average Snakes and Ladders than GW style.
Actually kind of tempted to try the step by step guides and essentially just follow the Part-work. Exception will be I’ll undercoat with Black first, then paint over the base colours.
Oh, and ruleswise its just movement and shooting in Issue 2. I expect we’ll cover HTH in Issue 3, given it comes with Reivers.
They’re the classic dice from the GW starter sets aren’t they?
The mat I didn’t know was in issue 2. Obviously only so useful, but good for getting people into the game I’m sure!
Way I figure it, it’s the quickest way to get a more rounded gaming experience.
And for those who drop out the entire run, it’s enough of a collection to expand upon later?
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Clippers are good. Previous pair long past being springy, so nice to have some new ones, spesh as they’re freebies. Comfortable to hold, decent point for GW’s infamous (if infrequent) odd positioning of sprue channels. (Dunno the technical name!)
Mould line remover is a bit dainty for me, but then I’ve got massive strangler’s hands. I imagine it’s probably a more deft tool in the hands of a kid. Either way, it still does the job, but I swapped out to my full sized one pretty quickly. That being said, being all small and dainty, it’s not a bad backup to held in your travelling kit. Certainly should you be in the unfortunate position of having to clean up a broken model before regluing, it’ll be up to the task.
Glue is glue is glue. It’s standard GW Polycement, something I’ve never really had problems with, barring a poor batch circa 2010 which dried crystallised, knackering a good portion of my models.
Looking at the ML remover, it seems like it will be great for getting into awkward middle areas etc, though yeah I think hard to hold when using and I have regular hands unlike you I just use a knife moved backwards over them normally, so will continue with that and have this for intricate details etc.
Definitely a good idea for a travel kit.
Happy with more clippers and glue.
On issue 3; yes it has close combat.
Issue 4 I cant quite see what it says from the picture..
Perhaps mine will be at home when I finish in the office today....
I'm sure this has been answered but I can't find it in this thread...
I have an account and have linked my subscription and can view my subscription but I can't see anywhere to put in payment information... Am I being dumb?
RobertsMinis wrote: Perhaps mine will be at home when I finish in the office today....
I'm sure this has been answered but I can't find it in this thread...
I have an account and have linked my subscription and can view my subscription but I can't see anywhere to put in payment information... Am I being dumb?
Let me go into mine to check. I set up mine and account etc, then added subscription to it after
RobertsMinis wrote: Perhaps mine will be at home when I finish in the office today....
I'm sure this has been answered but I can't find it in this thread...
I have an account and have linked my subscription and can view my subscription but I can't see anywhere to put in payment information... Am I being dumb?
Try accessing the site from a laptop/ desktop.
The option for inputting payment details didn't seem available when I tried it from either my phone or tablet but was there on my PC.
Really impressed with the DG minis and looking forward to the rest of the range, a bit disappointed that the mold line remover is a unbranded Citadel one, unlike the one shown and the clippers handles are slightly shorter than the older GW clippers with silver tipped handles that i use at mo but should be ok once im used to the new ones.
Does anyone know if the "Starter" brush is indicative of GW brush quality these days? I haven't used a GW brush in decades and I'm looking forward to testing this, but the "Starter" brand leads me to believe it's not a great brush (for reference I use W&N Cirrus, for anyone familiar with those, though I doubt there will be as they seem increasingly rare these days).
Thanks. I've tried R&Co, I found their brushes to be a lot less springy than I like. I use these https://www.revell.de/en/products/colors-accessories/accessories/painta-luxus.html as cheapies. Marten hair, very good (as good as Kolinsky imo). And it seems that Cirrus are still around, so I suppose I'll be continuing with that as my primary brush.
ElvisJuice wrote: I didn't seem to get a mould line tool, just a pair of clippers and some glue.
It's quite small and mine nearly fell out as I opened up the plastic envelope. See if it is still in the packaging.
This ^^ my mold line remover fell out onto the floor and at 1st i thought mine was missing until i checked under my chair, its pretty small the bulk of the tool is about 1.5 inches long!
JWBS wrote: +1 for got mine today. Great value, very pleased.
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ElvisJuice wrote: I didn't seem to get a mould line tool, just a pair of clippers and some glue.
The little metal tool included won't be much use as a mold line remover imo. I use one of these
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, and even then I have to regularly switch blades. So don't worry, you aren't missing much there.
I just use my normal hobby blade for all mould line work, but each blade lasts ages, howcome you have to switch them so often?
Mine did ping out but I saw it as I’d been reading on here that people had dropped theirs.
I dunno I suppose I'm a bit OCD when it comes to cleaning mold. You can tell when a blade loses its edge, same with a razor. I just prefer them to be ultra sharp. They're really cheap so it's not a big deal. I've just built two 40K knights, got through I think three blades (one to cut all the sprues and the other two for the lines). I go over pretty much every edge and join even if there's no immediately visible mold.
I find a blunter blade easier for removing them It doesn’t just cut in to the detail that way.
Do you face the blade away from the model when you are removing?
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Danny76 wrote: I find a blunter blade easier for removing them It doesn’t just cut in to the detail that way.
Do you face the blade away from the model when you are removing?
Err, now that I think about it, I suppose my usual pattern is to hold the blade at a 45% angle to the plastic surface, and scrape away from me. But sometimes I "cut" instead of scrape (so the cut position would be roughly the mirror of the scrape position), depending on what I'm removing and what I'm removing it from.
First issue has a poster showing all that is in the collection to come ,marines,scouts+sniper,lots of characters,terminators,jump pack marines,dreadnought,bikes,land speeder and some grav tank,nurgle gets marines,characters lots of pox walkers some spawn,3 nurgle vehicles,rhino all in green,33 paints,4 brushes and a lot of gothic scenery some quite big pieces
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Automatically Appended Next Post: Scenery is most of the current range largest part is the Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent
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Danny76 wrote: I find a blunter blade easier for removing them It doesn’t just cut in to the detail that way.
Do you face the blade away from the model when you are removing?
Err, now that I think about it, I suppose my usual pattern is to hold the blade at a 45% angle to the plastic surface, and scrape away from me. But sometimes I "cut" instead of scrape (so the cut position would be roughly the mirror of the scrape position), depending on what I'm removing and what I'm removing it from.
Yeah mines the same, though I don’t often do the ‘cut’ angle unless it’s a tricky piece etc.
Not sure where this method came from, no one ever taught me, and I don’t remember seeing it.
Just always done it that way
You mean there's an exact list of what's coming in what issue, or just a list of everything they're going to include over the course of the whole thing?
If the former, it'd be much appreciated if someone would post that up here.
Unfortunately I’m guessing we will go straight into dark vengeance stuff next as that’s a good way to get Nurgle characters.
But I have all that already.
So here’s hoping for one of those Nurgle character blisters maybe
So there will be no starting collection for the DG. Instead they release the 15 pound characters in the magazin? And even a Repulsor? For a part of the original price? Seems odd.
Also can somebody please post the poster with all the contents? Thank you for the effort.
Instead they release the 15 pound characters in the magazin? And even a Repulsor? For a part of the original price? Seems odd.
