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Safest way for the Primaris Tank is to wait till they are all out and order all at once, though of course by then people may have been ordering separately and earlier ones are missing.
Same is true of the PBC by the time the second one comes out, but I’m gonna try for sure.

Danny76 wrote:
He did put £11.88..

The discussion is the fact you’re dividing just by sprues, ignoring the remaining content.
Ignoring all the other irrelevant bits but rules is a hefty portion of the cost.

So more accurately.

(£95-£35) / 8 = sprue cost.)

Actually i agree with your logic, but when dealing with a boxset at retail you have to ook at it as 'how much would it cost me to get these items from GW'. The answer is £95. This ten has to be split eight ways and the additional components discarded.

Danny76 wrote:

But that’s just me, I wouldn’t want to individually pay £11.88 eight times to get those sprues and but then miss out on the rules, is what I’m saying.
However £8x8 brings to £64, which is roughly about right for not getting the rules from the £95 cost price.
(That’s just why I personally would value it at £8 each).

The only way to handle that is to see if there is a rulesless copy one can buy instead. Know no Fear contains 5 sprues of Dark Imperium without rules for £50, its not complete but gives a fair rules free price of £10 per sprue.

Danny76 wrote:

Also, spot on Orlanth.
To me those small paper mats are at zero cost, particularly if they’re all just like the one we already received (which they are going to be, as it’s only premium subs that get the heftier ones I’d imagine)

I have kept my gaming mat from issue 18, to me it has potential as its heavy paper, but still paper. So not particularly resilient and easy to soil, but also very easy to sptore away on the bottom of an army case as a reserve option. The print on terrain is also handy for the same reason. Still can put a value to it, if it want there the issue would be worth the same, I wouldnt intentionally use it at all, but its worth not throwing away, unlike the tiny map from issue 2 which I ignored as worthless.

While not relevant to the pricing here there is a glut on decent boards. I am collecting the Killzone boxsets for £39 each at Alchemist workshop, GW price £50. The contents are very good value for £50. I am very impressed with Killzone Sector Mechanicus, the box was full of sprues and the pieces are larger than expected, there is a lot of terrain in even one box (I wont be stopped at one though). Its all over my desk right now

 Orlanth wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
He did put £11.88..

The discussion is the fact you’re dividing just by sprues, ignoring the remaining content.
Ignoring all the other irrelevant bits but rules is a hefty portion of the cost.

So more accurately.

(£95-£35) / 8 = sprue cost.)

Actually i agree with your logic, but when dealing with a boxset at retail you have to ook at it as 'how much would it cost me to get these items from GW'. The answer is £95. This ten has to be split eight ways and the additional components discarded.

I just wouldn’t discard a £35 book from that box. Particularly when working out a price of something inside.

But I guess that’s exactly it, that everyone can out their own value on something.

£10 a sprue in line with the smaller boxes I suppose, but again when I look, it’s the cheapest rrp to get something I’d consider, so probably wouldn’t look at the £50 one, when there’s so much more for £95.


Yeah I think the card mats are ok, I may see their use in Kill Team, but to put a price on them is difficult..

The rule book seems to go for between £16-18 on eBay (for an unused one). Somewhere around £12-15 seems a reasonable assumed price given there is undoubtedly a discount for the box purchase.

I think it's down to how you look at it. My approach was to just say "okay, if I wanted this from GW, what's the cheapest way to get it?" - in the case of those 8 sprues, it's Dark Imperium. That's the cheapest way to buy them. You can't buy just the sprues on their own for £70.

The flip side of that is if they added the rules to the subscription for free, I wouldn't value the total value of the sub any higher because if you were buying the stuff separately, you would already have the rules from DI.

If we factor in the value of other things then the cheapest way to get all the paints, for example, is to buy the GW paint bundles, if you assume all the other paints are also have value.

And then of course the question of if the magazine itself has any value. We value a 250 or so page rulebook but not the 1600 pages of partwork...

Like I say, it's a rabbit hole. For me the only approach that seemed logical was "what would it cost me to buy all this?" - and where stuff wasn't on sale, how much similar equivalents costed elsewhere.

Lets face it, realistically an extra squad of plague marines would be better value than yet another plague marine character for 99% of people...

To be fair, those sprues for DI May end up becoming Start Collecting boxes for Primaris and Death Guard once there is a new starter box. So they may end up being "worth" £50-60 per faction. That's what happened with last editions AOS starter models.

Danny76 wrote:

Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..

The first two hull sprues make everything except the hatches and storm bolter on a normal Rhino, but anyone who has bought a few space marine tanks in the past will probably have spare hatches and storm bolters in their bits box.

phillv85 wrote:
To be fair, those sprues for DI May end up becoming Start Collecting boxes for Primaris and Death Guard once there is a new starter box. So they may end up being "worth" £50-60 per faction. That's what happened with last editions AOS starter models.

That’s true. Seems most likely down the line.


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OrkPlayer137 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..

The first two hull sprues make everything except the hatches and storm bolter on a normal Rhino, but anyone who has bought a few space marine tanks in the past will probably have spare hatches and storm bolters in their bits box.

I guess equally anyone who has the sub will get the hatch and bits Sprue in second issue.
So could buy the first one again and do the same.

Danny76 wrote:
Safest way for the Primaris Tank is to wait till they are all out and order all at once, though of course by then people may have been ordering separately and earlier ones are missing.
Same is true of the PBC by the time the second one comes out, but I’m gonna try for sure.

If you don't order promptly you will not get it at all. This will be a recurring feature for all the multipart issues that are not individual independent sprues (the terrain).


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OrkPlayer137 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

Does that Rhino first two hull sprues make a whole normal rhino?
As if it does come with the order you say, then a great way to make loyalist rhinos, or chaos if you green stuff them or do a good paint job to chaosify etc to do it on the cheap regardless of existing bits..

The first two hull sprues make everything except the hatches and storm bolter on a normal Rhino, but anyone who has bought a few space marine tanks in the past will probably have spare hatches and storm bolters in their bits box.

The Rhino is in two issues, so the minor bits will be thrown in. It is not strictly one sprue per issue.

I've just Subscribed from Issue 1, am I going to get all the issues to date? Or are some issues out of stock?

They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.

Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits

Danny76 wrote:
They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.

Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits

A lot depends on who is making the decisions, if its an accountant you will get one f the body frames and the hatches first, so you have to buy both magazines to get anything useful, if its a hobbyist it will be the chassis first, and hatches/spikes etc next time.

guess it comes down to how many people they expect to be buying single issues to get specific models, I would suggest thats probably a lot less of a problem than people may expect

Well, Partworks traditionally don’t do their whole run in store.

The release order will be curated to a degree, and set to best suit subscribers. So not sure bean counters particularly factor in?

Also to fit the magazine itself.
I.e. get the first portion built in one issue (so two sensible sprues together)

Danny76 wrote:
They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.

Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits

Hachette have been savvy over contents. They will not want a situation where people spam buy one issue and ignore another any more than they do already. I think the chassis will be split over two issues. The magazine contents are confirmed as one issue covering all assembly and one issue covering all painting. This highlights the holistic approach to Hsachette thinking on the vehicles pieces, quite separate to individual items like the Munitorum Containers which were repetitive over assembly content and wasted pages that could have provided more fluff.

The real frenzy will happen with the Plagueburst Crawler. the Repulsor may be one of the two capstone models along with the Mechanicus derrick. BGut the price over four issues is actually less competitive than some online retailers. But a Plagueburst Crawler for £16, having that, and another one, and another one on top of that.

I have been looking at the models I particularly want counting along the weeks.
Issues 24&25 Redemptor Dreadnought - 3rd and 4th week February
27&28 Rhino - 2nd and 3rd March
29 Dark Imperium Space Marine command - 4th March
31 Primaris Apothecary - 1 April
32 Plasma Conduits 2 Apr
33 Nurgle command and Plague Drone 3 Apr
34 M Layer Brush, Genennas Gold and Dawnstone 4 Apr
35 Primaris Chaplain 1 May
38 Nauseous Rotbone 4 May
39 Primaris Captain 1 Jun
41 Plagueburst Crawler (half) 3 Jun
42 Plagueburst Crawler (half) 4 Jun
43 Plasma regulators 5 Jun
47 Land Speeder 2 Jul
50 Cultists 1 Aug
54 Typhus 1 Sep
55 Alchomite Stack 2 Sep
58 Attack Bike 5 Sep
59 Primaris reinforcements (if issue 16 not found) 1 Oct
60 Plague Zombies 2 Oct
66 Nurgle Icon Bearer 4 Nov
69 Plague Marine Champion 3 Dec
71 Objectives 5 Dec
72 Chaos Spawn 1 Jan 2020
74 Tallyman 3 Jan
75 Repulsor (quarter) 4 Jan
76 Repulsor (quarter) 1 Feb
77 Repulsor (quarter) 2 Feb
78 Repulsor (quarter) 3 Feb
79 Galvanic Magnavent (half) 4 Feb
80 Galvanic Magnavent (half) 1 Mar

Its not complete the above is copied over from my own collectors workfile and highlights only the issues I will want at least one more copy over over the subsciption. Non-subscribers willbe advised to make their own list. I annotated it at the top so you can read the column, but removed the order data as it was personal to me. Though I can say that some items are 5+ but most are a single copy extra. As you can see a lot of the good stuff is some way off and completing is in March 2020. By which time we might be into the rumoured Age of Sigmar partworks campaign.

Have the rumours of AoS actually come from anywhere though.
I’ve only seen people saying that it’d be good / they expect they would.

I think it is quite likely to be fair, but just hadn’t seen any kind of credible thing.
(With the similar amount of ETB it’s a good start, then the Soul Wars much like DI, should all fit nicely..)

But the 40k legends books came and we never got a fantasy side to it or anything..


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My sheet looks as follows. From post issue 30 (where I’m definitely subscribed till).
Bold is what I NEED. The rest on here are things I’ll be interested in.

Thus where I’m unsure on being subbed to the end or just go for individual issues..


31. Primaris apothecary £22.50
32. plasma conduits £22.50
33. bloat drone, lord of contagion & 4x plague marines £DI
35. primaris chaplin £22.50
38. plague surgeon & gaming mat £15
39. primaris captain £22.50
41. Plague crawler, part 1 £40
42. plague crawler, part 2 £0
43. plasma regulators £15
47. land speeder £18.50
51. haemotrope reactor £12.50
54. typhus £25
55. alcomite stack £30
60.10x poxwalkers & 1x plague marine £DI
61. sector mechanicus tractor £12.50
62. sector mechanicus crane £12.50
63. 10x poxwalker & 1 plague marine £DI
65. 2x marine characters (terminator & Mk 4) £30?
66. plague marine with banner £15
68. haemotrope reactors £12.50
69. plague marine champion £15
71. objective markers £20
72, 2x chaos spawn £25
74. tallyman £15
75 - 78: Repulsor £50
79 - 80: galvanic magnavent £45

Full list of issue Contents

https://fauxhammer.com/news/spoiler-alert-full-warhammer-conquest-magazine-contents-leaked/

Danny76 wrote:
They have all issues available to subscribers so yeah should get them all.

Orlanth, regarding the Rhino. He was saying It’s four sprues, so wondering if it would be the two body of rhino sprues first, therefore being useful as a single issue purchase to those who have minor bits

Uhm that's very good reason why they would NOT do it. Not result in one magazine being spammed like that and others missed. And GW wouldn't want TOO good of a discount.

Well its unclear if the next one of these will be 40k again or AoS, but the fact there will be another one seems highly likely.

and likely to be under consideration for crafting a range of ETB models with such a magazine run in mind

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I've just Subscribed from Issue 1, am I going to get all the issues to date? Or are some issues out of stock?

Shouldn't be an issue, no pun intended. Otherwise they couldn't ethically take your order.
You should probably prepare for delays though. I subscribed on the 1st of January, was told I would have my first deliver in up to 28 days.
I sent an email inquiring and was told it would be now 38 days

Just as a note, the warhammer tv video for 19-20 went up and it’s the last one, apparently. It’s likely it was only ever planned for the first twenty issues, though it’s also possible the Hachette/GW partnership isn’t working out as well as planned.

Surprised to not have the order details for issues 19-22 pop up on my online account yet, I have been getting deliveries regularly every 4 weeks. If that had continued I *should* be getting my delivery of issues 19-22 any day soon. Given the lateness of a lot of people's issue 15-18 shipment maybe Hachette are just rebalancing their delivery schedule?

Same.

My 2000AD stuff is also late.

Amused I am not. Up with this I will not put!


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deano2099 wrote:
Just as a note, the warhammer tv video for 19-20 went up and it’s the last one, apparently. It’s likely it was only ever planned for the first twenty issues, though it’s also possible the Hachette/GW partnership isn’t working out as well as planned.

Given they’re launching it in other countries, yet to be declared, I suspect it’s not the latter

Perhaps the Hachette staff are some of those lucky beasts that get a fortnight off over Christmas and New Year? Not too concerned myself, I still need to paint the Biologus Putrifier and Primaris from the last delivery.

Out of curiosity, how many current subscribers would subscribe to another (different content, obviously) run again? Based on your experience, value from this one?

Out of curiosity, how many current subscribers would subscribe to another (different content, obviously) run again? Based on your experience, value from this one?

I'm Praying they don't do AOS, my wallet Can't take it!

Casualty wrote:
Out of curiosity, how many current subscribers would subscribe to another (different content, obviously) run again? Based on your experience, value from this one?

I'm still subscribed to the Legends book collection and I have been very happy with the selection of books they have released, even when its been a book I have already owned. I do not have many HB books so to have an 80 book collection with a diorama on the spines, on my bookshelf, looks lovely.

For me it's down to factions , I was already doing a small Fists force and I have oddments of unpainted Chaos , plus I don't own DI. Paint is always useful as well. The key thing is that I can order it from the newsagent as I would not subscribe directly with Hachette as they outsource their customer service, hence why it's rubbish to appaling.

With AoS I have already owned and moved on from both Stprmcast and Nighthaunt, did not enjoy the various play style of either.

It’d probably be the kicker I needed to start AOS

I really don’t like AoS. Just a personal thing; it doesn’t look like a bad game system and the models are pretty cool... I just can’t click with the new setting. As such I’m rooting for another 40k partworks... or even better a Horus Heresy one; though I’m not sure there’s enough plastic 30k models to achieve this.