I bet "plastic warhound" was actually "plastic warhound sized flamer on a tank"

Brother, bring forth the largest self propelled Burninator.

We’ll burninate them so good, their bottoms will wish they’d never been born!

T A R T A R O S

looking forward to seeing them (They'd fit my 30K specific IXth army better than Indomi Termies)

Giant flamers make me happy.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Giant flamers make me happy.

You light up my life

 SgtEeveell wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Giant flamers make me happy.

You light up my life

Make a heretic a fire, he'll be warm for the night.

Set a heretic on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

So what titan-scale arm weapons haven’t shown up on a tank chassis yet?

 Nevelon wrote:
So what titan-scale arm weapons haven’t shown up on a tank chassis yet?

Excluding the melee ones: Laser Blaster, Gatling Blaster, Missile Launcher, Melta Cannon(?) - plus the weird FW ones (Graviton, Conversion Beam).

beast_gts wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
So what titan-scale arm weapons haven’t shown up on a tank chassis yet?

Excluding the melee ones - Laser Blaster, Gatling Blaster, Missile Launcher, Melta Cannon(?)

Why exclude the melee options? Who wouldn’t want to field a superheavy tank with a giant chainsword mounted on it?

CHARGE!!1!!

Well, someone did loot a power fist -


(and the Mastodon is basically a Corvus Assault Pod on tracks...)

beast_gts wrote:
Well, someone did loot a power fist -

Spoiler:

(and the Mastodon is basically a Corvus Assault Pod on tracks...)

That is awesome. Trust the Orks to do what needs to be done.

beast_gts wrote:
Well, someone did loot a power fist -

Spoiler:

(and the Mastodon is basically a Corvus Assault Pod on tracks...)

This is absolutely brilliant…..might have to loot the idea ?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Clocked this on the LI page.



Note the 28mm ones. Then note the Quad Heavy Bolter Sponsons.

I know we do this dance everytime a new LI kit for a non-plastic Heresy kit is shown off. And it’s rarely confirmation of an upcoming plastic kit.

Here, it could just be the existing Resin Kit with the new sponsons. And there’s strong precedent for that being the case during 2nd Ed’s life.

What I’m asking is for people with the resin one to have a look at the other visible details and weigh in.

Quoting oneself is horrifically gauche, but bear with me.

Pinched from Reddit (OP is one carnagexscissors). Chose this one as it’s the pic closest in orientation.



Note the differences in the front of the two. LI teaser image has a block grill thing. Reddit one? None of that.

Am now pretty confident this is indeed a sign the plastic Falchion is coming. So that’s welcome!


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Also as a friend point out? The round embarkation hatches are a new feature to the presumably for now plastic one.

Arguably none of the Legions Imperialis cover art models have materialised as 28 mm minis for sale. A plastic Falchion may well be on its way, but this is in no way proof or indication of that.

The felblade kit is clearly designed for a simple one sprue swap to make a glaive. Galchion and new tank would need to swap out the top plate and turret sprues at a minimum but it could be done.

I think there will be some delay between the fellblade and glaive, and then a longer one before a falchion in plastic. Putting out too many superheavy heavy sm hulls would cause issues with demand, especially when solar aux and mechanicum don't have superheavies yet in plastic, quite a few infantry and normal tank kits need upgrades, and custodes will be getting an upcoming wave

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I think there will be some delay between the fellblade and glaive, and then a longer one before a falchion in plastic. Putting out too many superheavy heavy sm hulls would cause issues with demand, especially when solar aux and mechanicum don't have superheavies yet in plastic, quite a few infantry and normal tank kits need upgrades, and custodes will be getting an upcoming wave

Maybe, but that’s not really how their release schedule works. Otherwise we would have had plastic Breachers 2 years ago, and we’d have plastic Javelins rather than those (IMO) lame Araknae gun platforms.

On Warhammer Community we’re making a humble offering to the Omnissiah with a new reveal, taking a closer look at the rules of Warhammer Quest: Darkwater, and finding out more about Ferren Areios.

More Skitarii 30K maybe? Domitar?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

On Warhammer Community we’re making a humble offering to the Omnissiah with a new reveal, taking a closer look at the rules of Warhammer Quest: Darkwater, and finding out more about Ferren Areios.

More Skitarii 30K maybe? Domitar?

Well, I hope it's for 30k. The last 40k releases (sans KT - that was okay) were... not the best design decisions. Wild West, Inspector Gadget and DaVinci aren't the best inspirations.

A new Titan for the Epic range would be the sensible announcement right now. They've just had generous previews for both Heresy and Legions, while Titanicus hasn't had anything of use since the Dark-Mech walkers.

Unless they're doing an Ad-Mech release for 500 Worlds...

I’m hoping something Mechanicum over Mechanicus.

Even just a basic Tech Priest would be nice. A multi-part kit would be ideal, given how the Mechanicum army list is organised.

Dryaktylus wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

On Warhammer Community we’re making a humble offering to the Omnissiah with a new reveal, taking a closer look at the rules of Warhammer Quest: Darkwater, and finding out more about Ferren Areios.

More Skitarii 30K maybe? Domitar?

Well, I hope it's for 30k. The last 40k releases (sans KT - that was okay) were... not the best design decisions. Wild West, Inspector Gadget and DaVinci aren't the best inspirations.

Pfft, that's like saying Obi-wan Kenobi, Sherlock Holmes and Inspector Closeau aren't good inspirations.

Plastic Myrmidons!



The Myrmidon Destructor Host prepares to deliver a litany of devastation


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The Myrmidon Destructor Host contains six brand new plastic miniatures that can each be equipped with darkfire cannons, esoteric energy weapons favoured by the Mechanicum, or irradiation engines, which shower enemy and surrounding areas alike with deadly radiation.

No Volkite or Conversion beamers?

Honestly really cool looking models and a great update to the resin ones!

Pretty big deal to have this in plastic. Of course GW would start with the naff loadout first.

I'm in.

They look quite different from their resin predecessors in my eyes. Not sure yet if better or worse, because I never was a fan of the old ones' and I'm not totally sold on these as well They do look more like Mechanicum than Obliterator though, which is nice.

I think the resin should pads gave a better silhouette, honestly. These sit too high and look like they're floating.

Infinitely superior to the old ones.

Oh wow, these are cool AF..... Really tempting to start a new army.......

Somewhat phallic to be replacing the unit entry in the liber with mandatory splat books (I hope all those out there who claimed they were entirely optional are willing to stand and be counted) already though.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think the resin should pads gave a better silhouette, honestly. These sit too high and look like they're floating.

Yeah - being a bit lower and connected to the front armour might look better.

beast_gts wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think the resin should pads gave a better silhouette, honestly. These sit too high and look like they're floating.

Yeah - being a bit lower and connected to the front armour might look better.

Also agreed, but with that one quibble noted these are pretty swish. A nice antidote to the disappointment of the Cataphractii redesign.

Fantastic glow-up.

Seriously improvement on the originals.

I’ll expect the other weapons to be along in a second set in due course.

Nice, but updated rules so soon is a bit naughty.

It's likely the unit entry is just rejigged because they accidentally made the kit without their default weapon?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's likely the unit entry is just rejigged because they accidentally made the kit without their default weapon?

If so, that should be a free update.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's likely the unit entry is just rejigged because they accidentally made the kit without their default weapon?

There's also 6 in the box, so I can see the min unit size going up.

I first saw the picture of these on the IW subreddit and the title was "new obliterators just dropped". I have to agree, these look great for Mechanicum but also seem ripe for conversions.

I'll probably pick some up just to have them, though I'm worried this will continue the plastic Mechanicum trend of being a million little fiddly bits.

Myrmidons look superb, absolutely love them

Those pipe-cutter power claws are awesome!

Sober thought on the “but where’s me Volkite and C-Beamer”?

As I posted earlier, I suspect they’re coming in a second set. Only suspect, can’t prove owt. But I will point, for better or worse, to the new Cataphractii.

But at least with the plastic? It’s not “one of each weapon and go eff yourself” that the resin ones are.

Not quite as I’d like it (all weapons, one box please). But I think it may be an improvement rather than a compromise?

Do we think the Secutors will use the same bodies (as with the resin ones) or be their own thing?

Same bodies.

So thinking 4 sprues per box- body sprue of 3 bodies with servo skulls and one or two head options, weapons sprue of 3 different weapon poses for 2 weapons plus 3 servo arms, maybe the second head option.

Then second box later with a sprue containing cbeamers and volkite, maybe alternate heads.

Secutors could be just a different weapon sprue as well true. Smaller guns means they could probably fit like 3 different options onto the sprue instead of 2 bigger guns.

Appearance wise, to me these are an improvement on the level of going from the old Armorcast Warhound to the FW Mars pattern warhound. There is some character in the old versions that is changed, but the general feel is still there, and the details are both much sharper and look a lot more like they actually function.

Rules changes are likely just a change in unit size, swapping which is the default gun, and an outside hope for a keyword to maybe run them in a detachment with the new skitarii.

Cataphractii are going to a 6 model kit, now we have the new 6 man box of myrmadons, maybe soon they will show off a 6 model kit for Solar aux ogryn?

Great models as always, but actually gtfo with this paid rules update.

Wow, these look terrible. The heads are too far forward. What's the point of shoulder pads that don't sit on, much less cover, your shoulders? And what the heck are those right arms supposed to even be?

There are big pistons in the shoulders that the pads sit on top of.

Bob Lorgar wrote:
And what the heck are those right arms supposed to even be?

Shock chargers, the same weapon as the Castellax fists.

Bob Lorgar wrote:
Wow, these look terrible. The heads are too far forward. What's the point of shoulder pads that don't sit on, much less cover, your shoulders? And what the heck are those right arms supposed to even be?

You refer to the weak proportions imposed upon you by the prison of your own, decaying, weak, flesh. Once you embrace the strength of steel and the will of the machine you too can embrace the purity of perfect form and function.


Ergo this isn't like Space Marines who are a human placed inside a suit; there's no person inside the machine with a Mechanicum, its all one body. So it doesn't have to have "proper human proportions". Plus some of the grim-dark is having missformed proportions. Or walking with a cane; or a stooped back. There's a kind of twisted element to the Mechanicum/mechanicus. It runs alongside the other twists like having armies which are basically lobotomised people shambling with machinery. Even though we know that the Mechanicus can do way better if they really want too and focus their technical skills.

I think these look pretty good. And there is scope for converting them to make them look more ‘out there’. I’ll be getting some.

The cc weapon is probably intentionally basic so as to not detract from whatever the Secutors will get.

 Snord wrote:
I think these look pretty good. And there is scope for converting them to make them look more ‘out there’. I’ll be getting some.

Yeah, I'm generally not one to defend GW, but it seems like a lot of the complaints are solved by the fact that this is plastic so it'll be a lot easier to convert.

JWBS wrote:
The cc weapon is probably intentionally basic so as to not detract from whatever the Secutors will get.

Well they currently have big two-handed axes but it wouldn’t surprise me if options showed up along with more shoulder guns. Twin power fists could be good. Or some sort of extremely short ranged (melee only) melta weapon. Sort of a repeating meltabomb.

I'm predicting a buzz saw / rockcutter type thing, there's a 100% chance one of mine will have one anyway.

JWBS wrote:
I'm predicting a buzz saw / rockcutter type thing, there's a 100% chance one of mine will have one anyway.

Twin drills would be cool too. I have some bits from the Killa Kan sprue (and I guess from Kromlech), originally for some Servitor conversions. Hmm, actually I have enough Secutors but...

 Mr_Rose wrote:

JWBS wrote:
The cc weapon is probably intentionally basic so as to not detract from whatever the Secutors will get.

Well they currently have big two-handed axes but it wouldn’t surprise me if options showed up along with more shoulder guns. Twin power fists could be good. Or some sort of extremely short ranged (melee only) melta weapon. Sort of a repeating meltabomb.

Maybe a lascutter of some form?

Just the axes, please. Nothing new, for newness sake. Please.

Axes an hammers would be an easy piece swap.

 Dysartes wrote:

Maybe a lascutter of some form?

Lascutters are actually good this edition, so probably not

Well Secutors also have funky guns on the shoulders so is there enough space for something new.

Anyone seen any indication of when the boxed set with the new Cataphractii is being released? I just scrapped my WiP Ultramarines Cataphractii in anticipation of replacing them with the new ones.

 Snord wrote:
Anyone seen any indication of when the boxed set with the new Cataphractii is being released? I just scrapped my WiP Ultramarines Cataphractii in anticipation of replacing them with the new ones.

We've seen/heard nothing, but it'll almost certainly be January preorder now - unfortunately we've missed the pre-Christmas boat

 Snord wrote:
Anyone seen any indication of when the boxed set with the new Cataphractii is being released? I just scrapped my WiP Ultramarines Cataphractii in anticipation of replacing them with the new ones.

Just popped up on the retailers order list - they should be getting them in this week, though the street date is listed as January 10th.

(With the Christmas break, we have a fighting chance of getting them painted up for the store Death Guard army before then ).

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Snord wrote:
Anyone seen any indication of when the boxed set with the new Cataphractii is being released? I just scrapped my WiP Ultramarines Cataphractii in anticipation of replacing them with the new ones.

Just popped up on the retailers order list - they should be getting them in this week, though the street date is listed as January 10th.

(With the Christmas break, we have a fighting chance of getting them painted up for the store Death Guard army before then ).

Thanks! No too long to wait then.

MongooseMatt wrote:

Just popped up on the retailers order list - they should be getting them in this week, though the street date is listed as January 10th.

(With the Christmas break, we have a fighting chance of getting them painted up for the store Death Guard army before then ).

You got a price you could share?

The Siege Assault battle group is 170€ (info is from a retailer).

 lord_blackfang wrote:

You got a price you could share?

You know, I am not sure I am allowed to at the moment... Umm, more than you would want to pay, but a level that will make you think 'yeah, okay, that makes sense'.

Not sure that is useful

 Dryaktylus wrote:
The Siege Assault battle group is 170€ (info is from a retailer).

So that'll be £129 / $215 like the new LI boxes.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

You got a price you could share?

You know, I am not sure I am allowed to at the moment... Umm, more than you would want to pay, but a level that will make you think 'yeah, okay, that makes sense'.

Not sure that is useful

Well, you had no issue spoiling whats on the order sheet.....
So just be useful & tell us the price.
Pretend youre talking to customers interested in ordering from you.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
The Siege Assault battle group is 170€ (info is from a retailer).

Cheers.

I would guess from that price that the Termies are actually going down in price together with the reboxing from 10 to 6.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I would guess from that price that the Termies are actually going down in price together with the reboxing from 10 to 6.

I guess we should regard that as a win. Kind of...