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Post by: JohnHwangDD
http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/2008/12/rumors-stompa-kit.html
Bell of Lost Souls wrote:
Ohs the birds are singing folks,
We have collated together the following reports from several sources:
Teh Stompa is coming, and visual sightings of the kits have been reported.
-It is a large kit with several guns, a chainsaw arm, and rockits.
-Many bitz are provided with things such as, gunz, chains, pistons, and both Ork and Grot crew.
-The overall design is said to be somehwat related to the Apocalypse scratchbuilt models (see above pic). It was speculated that some of those may have been early prototypes.
-Stompa's head is smallish, but easily accessorized with the truckload of bitz included).
-The Stompa's main guns are awesome, with a belt fed Supa-Gattla included.
-Several grot-bombs are in (handy for scrathbuilding fighta-bombas).
- There is an "internal schematic" included that shows the inner working of a typical Stompa and its crew.
The kit is said to be very modular with the existing Ork plastic vehicle line. Things such as the turrets on the new Battlewagon are interchangable, and there is talk of future upgrade sprues (like the Baneblade) to expand the stompa to cover other versions over time.
Good to see the Orks getting some more love from GW.
Looks like this year is going to be a hell of an Apocalypse year! 
____
Updated with actual March 7th release date.
And price of $95...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Stompy stomp stomp!
Should be good.
BYE
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Post by: mikhaila
I am telling my wife I want nothing for Christmas.
Just save it for my stomper mob
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Post by: Hulksmash
Yeah, i had it confirmed from a friend of mine over the weekend. I'm super stoked! Stomping Goodness (plus this means the chance for a plastic Warhound is getting better too!)
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Post by: Ifurita
Any timeline?
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Post by: Clang
March-ish, along with the next pile of Apocalypse and the Shadowsword. Bad timing, as I'll still be busy with all my battlewagons, grots, stormboys and nobs from Jan...
does anyone have any pics? please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
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Post by: pcon426
one sounds awesome want the shadowsword first
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Post by: warpcrafter
Who's gonna be elbow-deep in GW plasticrack? Besides me? 
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Post by: sonofruss
I don't think I can see my elbows shoulder deep here
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Post by: BrookM
That's great news, I've been itching to get one of those.
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Post by: Flachzange
seriously, theyre throwing out some huge kits these days.
Im hoping that other fractions will get some apoc loving as well.
Fractions that havent gotten alot from FW either ... yeah, that would be nice.
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Post by: BrookM
Heh, odd that. FW is focusing on special projects and GW is going crazy with their releases in certain slots.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
@Flachzange:
IMO, GW is selling huge kits because:
- they have the technical capability to make them,
- no other gaming company can compete with similarly large kits
- we buy them
Apoc is selling well, so go for a 3rd round!
- Guard & Baneblade are selling, so the Shadowsword is avanced to plastic.
- Orks are selling well, so the Stompa is advanced to plastic.
- Marines always sell well, but their only big kit is the Thawk, which is too expensive to sell right now - save it or the Warhound for 2010+, when Apoc might need more of a jump
If I had to guess who gets Apoc stuff next, I'd guess for Eldar Scorpion superheavy (which then allows Cobra, and other Engines of Vaul), but that's probably 2011 or later.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Never stops, does he?
BYE
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Post by: George Spiggott
I believe that they're laying the groundwork for Apoc becoming the standard 40k game. A shadowsword is useless if it has no other superheavy vehicles to shoot at.
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Post by: FlatlanderBoss2.0
If it's late March, might be available in time to throw the meta-games totally off kilter at Adepticon.
Hooray!
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Post by: Prometheum5
H.B.M.C. wrote:Never stops, does he?
BYE
I was gonna say how proud I was of DD reporting new from a source, but then he goes off on some more rampant fabrication...
I'm glad to see the Stompa is coming along, as it bodes well for a plastic Warhound down the line, but let's stick to the facts we've got.
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Post by: Alpharius
George Spiggott wrote:I believe that they're laying the groundwork for Apoc becoming the standard 40k game. A shadowsword is useless if it has no other superheavy vehicles to shoot at.
Gah!
I don't think so!
At least, I hope not!
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Post by: George Spiggott
Alpharius wrote:At least, I hope not!
Agreed.
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Post by: CaptainRavenclaw
Very cool. I want to see pictures!!! bring on the mega stompa waagh
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Post by: oomiestompa
It's compatible with the Battlewagon?
Now I'm going to have to get one more of each than I was planning just to mess around with that.
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Post by: Brimstone
oomiestompa wrote:It's compatible with the Battlewagon?
Now I'm going to have to get one more of each than I was planning just to mess around with that.
If you mean can I mix and match the kits the answer is yes.
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Post by: Agamemnon2
Alpharius wrote:I don't think so!
At least, I hope not!
Perhaps that's why the new GW plastic version has more guns than the old FW Shadowsword? The FW SS is more of a one-hit pony, whereas the GW version has two extra lascannons and one extra twin HB, so it can function more like the Baneblade instead of hanging back sniping at the big targets.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
OH sweet Donkey Jesus....
Looks like my Wallett is going to be screaming in March.
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Post by: Flashman
Deffrollas confirmed and Stompas incoming. Definitely a good day to be a ork 
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Post by: Alpharius
Agamemnon2 wrote:Alpharius wrote:I don't think so!
At least, I hope not!
Perhaps that's why the new GW plastic version has more guns than the old FW Shadowsword? The FW SS is more of a one-hit pony, whereas the GW version has two extra lascannons and one extra twin HB, so it can function more like the Baneblade instead of hanging back sniping at the big targets.
Huh?
I was talking about hoping that Apocalypse wasn't going to 'take over' for 40K as GW's Main Game, so to speak...
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Post by: two_heads_talking
Brimstone wrote:oomiestompa wrote:It's compatible with the Battlewagon?
Now I'm going to have to get one more of each than I was planning just to mess around with that.
If you mean can I mix and match the kits the answer is yes.
I love it when Brimstone comes around.. Now, are you saying that there is a stompa kit? and if so, that it is going to be available sometime in 2009?
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Post by: Teek
Exciting news!
I feel the "scratch builds" from that infamous apoc picture are a bit naff, but I've never really liked the old dumpy "flower pot" style stompa. Something more like the dynamic stompa concept art (and Ein's incredible translation of said art) would be a bit more up my alley.
Regardless, good news indeed. Should serve as an excellent diving board for customization.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
George Spiggott wrote:I believe that they're laying the groundwork for Apoc becoming the standard 40k game.
A shadowsword is useless if it has no other superheavy vehicles to shoot at.
I'd be OK with that - Apoc is fun.
Even without going to FW, we've got Brass Scorpions along with a host of Guard, Traitor, & Chaos Baneblade-based vehicles to play with. Very cool!
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Post by: Vandez
Teek wrote:Exciting news!
I feel the "scratch builds" from that infamous apoc picture are a bit naff, but I've never really liked the old dumpy "flower pot" style stompa. Something more like the dynamic stompa concept art (and Ein's incredible translation of said art) would be a bit more up my alley.
They'll have their work cut out for them to do better than ein's version. That thing is awesome.
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Post by: insaniak
Bell of Lost Souls wrote:-The overall design is said to be somehwat related to the Apocalypse scratchbuilt models
That's disappointing... :(
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Post by: Waaagh_Gonads
Looking forward to this more than the baneblade.
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Post by: Reecius
F in A, cotton! That is some sweet sweet news! I can not wait to lay eyes on the stompa kit, I bet it is going to be so bad ass!
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Post by: Brimstone
two_heads_talking wrote:I love it when Brimstone comes around.. Now, are you saying that there is a stompa kit? and if so, that it is going to be available sometime in 2009?
Early March 2009, same price as a Baneblade.
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Post by: Ethald
I'm dying from the anticipation!
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Post by: Belphegor
I guess the scratch builders are going to have to continue to one-up the kit builders...
I look forward to seeing a Stompa mob lead but a scratch built Mekboy stompa
mmmmm lifta-droppa
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Post by: jamsessionein
Vandez wrote:Teek wrote:Exciting news!
I feel the "scratch builds" from that infamous apoc picture are a bit naff, but I've never really liked the old dumpy "flower pot" style stompa. Something more like the dynamic stompa concept art (and Ein's incredible translation of said art) would be a bit more up my alley.
They'll have their work cut out for them to do better than ein's version. That thing is awesome.
Thanks.
Honestly, if they're making a kit that produces the stompas seen in the Apocalypse books, I will probably buy one on principle, but use the parts to create something more appropriate. I don't really like the look of the ones in Apoc or Apoc:Reload. From the sounds of this, though, it'll have more than enough parts to work from, and anything I don't use can certainly be recycled onto a Skullhamma or Battlewagon.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
jamsessionein wrote:I will probably buy one on principle, but use the parts to create something more appropriate.
As I said ages ago, smart Ork players - of which you are clearly at the top of that pile - will buy the new Ork Stompa kit and used it to make two Stompaz, scratch building the rest as needed.
BYE
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Post by: Savnock
The galaxy is about to turn green, folks.
Good strategy on GW's part to release them together with the BB variants, too. They will drive sales for each other big time. More terrifyingly, this also means a ton of Skullhammas are going to get built with extra bitz. I hate those things.
Good times to be a nerd, these.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
I still don't get why GW wouldn't make a plastic Thunderhawk. If 40% of their income really does come from Space Marines, they would make a lot of money, wouldn't they? Even if it's more expensive than the Baneblade.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
According to a different source of mine, we're looking at 2010 for the Thunderhawk. 
BYE
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Post by: BrookM
Oh goodie, I can postpone the obligated Space Marine army for another year.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
But why wait for 2010? Wouldn't a Space Marine vehicle sell much better than just another Superheavy IG tank?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Two words:
Planet Strike.
BYE
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Post by: aka_mythos
Its that point when orks learn that something as big as a stompa makes a nice target for a full salvo orbital bombardment.
I hope when planet strike comes out they include rules that allow you to hurl empty drop pods at super heavy vehicles, like in the old epic rules.
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Post by: Alpharius
Thunderhawks are a bit harder to justify as being 'on table' for any length of time.
Wouldn't it mostly be 'fly bys' and maybe a turn at most 'on the ground' and then they're off table again?
At least the Superheavy tanks and Titans are sticking around, so to speak...
A Thunderhawk makes for a fun display piece, not so much a fun gaming piece.
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Post by: Solorg
YES! The new Stompa is here! Great to hear this news. I am not too excited about the old scratchbuilds I saw in the Apoc Book, but I did like the look of the new KlawStompa in the Reload book. You know, the heads are just too small on the scratchbuilds from the Apoc Book, I think.
Still, Stompas are a rarity on the table. This should up the ante for Orks. The time of the Baneblade is soon at an end. Now it is the time of the Ork!
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Post by: CaptainRavenclaw
Savnock wrote:Good times to be a nerd.
I couldn't agree more. If only they released all those models a month earlier, I would have a very green Christmas
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Post by: Platuan4th
Alpharius wrote:Thunderhawks are a bit harder to justify as being 'on table' for any length of time.
Wouldn't it mostly be 'fly bys' and maybe a turn at most 'on the ground' and then they're off table again?
That's true if you're using Forgeworld's Flyer rules, but Apoc Flyer rules have flyers staying on the board once they come on.
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Post by: Xav
Sounds great cant wait to see it.
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Post by: Alpharius
Platuan4th wrote:Alpharius wrote:Thunderhawks are a bit harder to justify as being 'on table' for any length of time.
Wouldn't it mostly be 'fly bys' and maybe a turn at most 'on the ground' and then they're off table again?
That's true if you're using Forgeworld's Flyer rules, but Apoc Flyer rules have flyers staying on the board once they come on.
Huh! Good to know!
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Post by: BrookM
Here's hoping it comes with its own flying stand, that would save a heap of trouble.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Yes, there won't be any problems balancing a Thunderhawk on a standard GW flying stand...
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Post by: two_heads_talking
I'm going to wait with baited breath and when March comes around and there is no Stompa, I'm gonna come find someone..
JohnHwangDD wrote:Yes, there won't be any problems balancing a Thunderhawk on a standard GW flying stand...
Especially if you are smart enough to use more than one.. But Hey! There's always that one dummy that decides it only needs one.. Poor, poor, poor idiot, he's usually easy to spot too, as he's on his hands and knees picking up the darned thing for the 4th time that day because it wouldn't balance on the tricky board...
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Post by: Elusive71
Vandez wrote:Teek wrote:I feel the "scratch builds" from that infamous apoc picture are a bit naff, but I've never really liked the old dumpy "flower pot" style stompa. Something more like the dynamic stompa concept art (and Ein's incredible translation of said art) would be a bit more up my alley.
They'll have their work cut out for them to do better than ein's version. That thing is awesome.
I totally agree. Ein, have you ever considered having your "Space Barbarian Mechanical War Avatar" reproduced in kit form?
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Post by: dumbuket
H.B.M.C. wrote:Never stops, does he?
BYE
What the hell is wrong with you, H.M.B.C?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I can't tell you what's wrong with HMBC. I've never met him.
God I dunno what's worse, DD or people who take me too seriously? Hilarious I tell you. Hilarious.
BYE
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Post by: BrookM
You just need to get used to things around here I guess. After a while you'll just smile politely, nod in agreement and slowly back away. 
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Post by: BigToof
BrookM wrote:You just need to get used to things around here I guess. After a while you'll just smile politely, nod in agreement and slowly back away.
There's also the ever helpful "Ignore" button. You'd be surprised how useless some people's comments truely are.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
The ignore button is for pansees who can't deal with their own problems.
BYE
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Post by: BrookM
BigToof wrote:BrookM wrote:You just need to get used to things around here I guess. After a while you'll just smile politely, nod in agreement and slowly back away.
There's also the ever helpful "Ignore" button. You'd be surprised how useless some people's comments truely are.
And miss out on the potential fun?
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Post by: BrookM
Anyway, slightly back onto topic, I am kinda wondering what variants can be built straight out of the box when it comes out. Maybe just the regular version, maybe the Mek Gant, but then again the variants are easy to build.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I hope the extra choppy one from reloaded is possible with the kit. I like that one because it's absurd and so Orky.
BYE
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Post by: BrookM
Personally I'm looking forward to some Mek parts along with a big enough head for a flashing lazor eye. Maybe cut down a GW markerlight and put that in that metal noggin.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Looking at the sprues for the Battlewagon, and having taken a second look at the one in my local GW, it appears to come with a full compliment of crew - at least two full Orks to act as Big Shoota gunners, and several Orks to have popping out of hatches.
I would hope that the Stompa would come with a similar amount of crew - maybe even a special Mek that commands it.
BYE
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Post by: BrookM
It is tempting to get a Trukk, Battlewagon and Stompa kit at the same time and just mix and match everything for an afternoon to see what can be cranked out. Badrukk would make a good Gant Kaptinn, just give him a raised pulpit with shouty tubes and levers, maybe a grot runner.
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Post by: brotherskeeper74
Brimstone wrote:oomiestompa wrote:It's compatible with the Battlewagon?
Now I'm going to have to get one more of each than I was planning just to mess around with that.
If you mean can I mix and match the kits the answer is yes.
lol Are you serious? We are talking about Orks. The new Stegadons is compatible with Orks. Hell, my daughters Polly Pocket cars, with enough Plasticard and empty spurs, could be made into Ork trukks. But, I don't know which would be worse: the ridicule from the people you play against w/ said Orky Pocket trukk or the screaming from the daughters when they see Polly's head on the grill of the trukk.
Can't wait to see the model in person.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
BrookM wrote:It is tempting to get a Trukk, Battlewagon and Stompa kit at the same time and just mix and match everything for an afternoon to see what can be cranked out. Badrukk would make a good Gant Kaptinn, just give him a raised pulpit with shouty tubes and levers, maybe a grot runner.
1 box of Bikes.
1 Trukk.
1 Battlewagon.
Get that and I'm sure you could make a unit of Wartrakks/Buggies. Add a Stompa to the above list, and you can make an Orky repair garage for them as well.
BYE
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Post by: pcon426
JohnHwangDD wrote:@Flachzange:
IMO, GW is selling huge kits because:
- they have the technical capability to make them,
- no other gaming company can compete with similarly large kits
- we buy them
Apoc is selling well, so go for a 3rd round!
- Guard & Baneblade are selling, so the Shadowsword is avanced to plastic.
- Orks are selling well, so the Stompa is advanced to plastic.
- Marines always sell well, but their only big kit is the Thawk, which is too expensive to sell right now - save it or the Warhound for 2010+, when Apoc might need more of a jump
If I had to guess who gets Apoc stuff next, I'd guess for Eldar Scorpion superheavy (which then allows Cobra, and other Engines of Vaul), but that's probably 2011 or later.
i quote this from some one in gw design team
"THER WILL BE NO PLASTIC THUNDERHALK!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
And when have you ever known GW to stick to what they say?
BYE
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Post by: Pariah Press
They said they were getting rid of the archive service, didn't they?
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Post by: RabbiTucker
Gargants?
*PLASTIC* gargants?!
It's a good day for a WAAAUGH!!, boys!
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Post by: P4NC4K3
pcon426 wrote: i quote this from some one in gw design team
"THER WILL BE NO PLASTIC THUNDERHALK!!!!!!!!!!!!"
but what about the ThunderhaWk sorry for being so picky
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
i quote this from some one in gw design team
"THER WILL BE NO PLASTIC THUNDERHALK!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Thunderhalk  Is that some sort of Hulk with lighting abilites?
I still have the body from the force-field Big Mek. He would look great standing on an enterprise-like bridge in the stompas torso.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
pcon426 wrote:"THER WILL BE NO PLASTIC THUNDERHALK!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I think even GW's trained monkeys can type more coherently than that...
I'm taking the Thunderhawk speculation to Discussions...
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Post by: ender502
H.B.M.C. wrote:The ignore button is for pansees who can't deal with their own problems.
BYE
sigged for truthiness.
ender502
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Post by: Da Boss
Awwwww maaaaan, I hope I get a job soon. I've a lot of orks at this point, and a forgeworld squiggoth. I owe Da Boss's Boyz a Stompa. Or two.
(Cos you know you really need a big mek stompa with a lifta droppa. Anything else is just...panzee.)
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Bell of Lost Souls has a pic up!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/SVKSHnpFozI/AAAAAAAADns/CC1--vi5-3E/s1600-h/Stompa-01.jpg
It actually looks quite good as a faithful render of the Epic model. The Grot riggers really sell it.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Wow, major letdown. Just another upturned flower pot covered in plasticard.
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Post by: warpcrafter
lord_blackfang wrote:Wow, major letdown. Just another upturned flower pot covered in plasticard.
What do you want, another Mr. Potato head?
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Post by: Bignutter
i like it
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Post by: The Dreadnote
I like the top half of it - though I'm not a fan of the GIANT METAL SKIRT method of stompa design.
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Post by: Teek
Preface: With experience in injection molding and manufacturing design, I can understand how challenging it would be to produce a kit of such a large, dynamic model.
That being said, what a let down. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the flowerpot style to begin with, so there's that bias. But those arms are weedy, the feet are weedy. To be a soldier of the Imperium and see a stompa trundle up the horizon should cause terror. This model just seems... awkward.
Of course this is one picture, of one model, from one angle, with one paint job. Many weren't sold on the battlewagon until more pictures surfaced. But really, as an initial knee-jerk reaction to a first look: meh.
Overall the model doesn't feel menacing. It doesn't look brutal. Here's hoping future publicity shots showcase the model in a better light.
That being said, I'll gladly pick one up and use various parts as ingredients in a greater recipe.
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Post by: The Power Cosmic
Weedy arms and the eye slots are all wrong, but that's an easy fix. I love it. Now is the time to see just how modular the ork kits really are.
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Post by: BrookM
The head looks like gak. At least it has a kaptinn riding on the head.
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Post by: Vandez
There's more to like than to dislike, IMHO.
More - and larger - pictures are required, methinks.
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Post by: Zip Napalm
I'm a fan of the old bell shape, but absolutely despise the "junky" look.
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Post by: Teek
Junkwaffle at the-waaaagh just posted these, new paint job. Mods if this is stepping on toes, don't hesitate to nuke them.
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Post by: Agamemnon2
Hm, that looks pretty 'ard, I wonder what the parts breakdown is.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Nope, still not looking any better than the average bucket-based scratchbuild.
I can't believe they wasted sprue space with two belly armour variants (skull/no skull)
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Post by: InquisitorFabius
Like its been said, a true Ork Mek will buy one kit and build two Stompa's out of it.
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Post by: with an iron fist
Teek wrote:Junkwaffle at the-waaaagh just posted these, new paint job. Mods if this is stepping on toes, don't hesitate to nuke them.
Those're from the GW- UK newsletter.
It's very useful!
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Post by: Chrispy
As an old Ork player, I think that any Warboss worth his salt should be using only parts of the Trukk, Battlewagon and Stompa for his own creation rather than simply building the kits by-the-numbers.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
All true that this (along with the new Trukk & Battlewagon) is only good as the basis for conversion, but what a basis!
Especially as the hardest part of making a Stompa has always been the basic chassis. This shell speeds the process immensely.
It's styrene, so it's a lot easier to work with than anything before, and there are loads of interchangeable, optional bitz to make stuff with.
This really is the high point in
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Post by: ShumaGorath
I think it looks great. The old versions were hideous, this is a nice fat junky remake on what used to be a bad clay sculpture.
Of course as with any ork vehicle it should be at least a little bit converted, but out of the box it still looks great.
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Post by: Zip Napalm
Honey! Where's ma boomgun? Jus got word from Morkville we be ekspectin' them Imperial Revenuers to show up any minute to shut down the Orkbilly still.
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Post by: dumbuket
It's not bad, but what is this nonsense about these kits only being a basis for conversion? A kit's a kit. You convert it if you want, or you leave it stock. Since when does your cred as an ork player hinge on mutilating the stock kits with $50 worth of sheet styrene?
Most of the ork "conversions" I've seen look like crap anyway. We should be grateful that so many of the new ork plastics look so good when built "correctly".
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
ShumaGorath wrote:I think it looks great.
Here I will be 100% in agreement with you. You of course, Shummy, must now change your point of view to argue with me. ShumaGorath wrote:The old versions were hideous, this is a nice fat junky remake on what used to be a bad clay sculpture.
I agree. They took the junky look of the new Ork stuff and combined with with the Humpty Dumpty look of old to make a machine that looks like it might work. I especially like the giant chainsaw arm. Unlike the old ones where it looked about as manoeuvrable as a bus sinking in a lake, this one looks like it could actually be swung at things in order to kill them. ShumaGorath wrote:Of course as with any ork vehicle it should be at least a little bit converted, but out of the box it still looks great.
Out of the box it looks like a conversion, and that's an impressive feat. It's achieved, I think, by the fact that it's not symmetrical. Look at the exhaust assembly at the back. It's random. It's an impressive kit because they've gone and made a Stompa, not half a stompa and then mirror-imaged it. BYE
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Post by: dienekes96
InquisitorFabius wrote:Like its been said, a true Ork Mek will buy one kit and build two Stompa's out of it.
Incorrect. As I've said, any real Mek would buy two kits and build a single Stompa.
If 1998 taught me anything, it's that size does matter.
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Post by: Apone
*So ****ing happy right now*
Merry Christmas everyone. GW brought us the gift of Stompyness.
Stompy Stomp Stomp Stomp...
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Post by: ubermosher
HBMC and ShumaGorath in agreement. It's a Festivus miracle!
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Post by: Thalor
I love everything but the basic body shape, the nasal, and the horns on the head. I've never been much of a fan of the "Aunt Gertrude in a moo-moo" look that the stompa have. Though if it was painted up in plaid...
The grot-rokkit and the chainsaw arm are especially impressive, though I agree the arm for the chainsay looks a little spindly. I will probably add another hydraulic cylinder or two, or perhaps reinforce the ones that are on it will heavier looking tubes.
Merry Christmas!
Thalor
Thalor
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Post by: Zip Napalm
Thalor wrote:I love everything but the basic body shape, the nasal, and the horns on the head. I've never been much of a fan of the "Aunt Gertrude in a moo-moo" look that the stompa have. Though if it was painted up in plaid...
Aye! MacGork and MacMork!
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Post by: Lemmingspawn
Well my only complaint is - now people aren't going to pay as much for mine (the ones I'm building atm) when I sell them... :( Why pay good money for an awesome scratchbuild when you can buy the kit for much less...although they still have to build and paint them and all that will be done on mine...
Oh well - I'll just have to find another way to pay for my modelling...lol
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Here I will be 100% in agreement with you. You of course, Shummy, must now change your point of view to argue with me.
I would but you didn't somehow link it to the overpowering of the stompa in relation to the new model release.
ALSO I HATE YOU AND YOU'RE WRONG. RAAAAAAARGH!
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Hmm...
BoLS has the release date as Mar. 7th,
along with the Shadowsword / Stormlord.
Nice.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
ShumaGorath wrote:I would but you didn't somehow link it to the overpowering of the stompa in relation to the new model release.
The rules are already out. They can't change them after the fact... or can they???
ShumaGorath wrote:ALSO I HATE YOU AND YOU'RE WRONG. RAAAAAAARGH!
That's more like it.
BYE
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
And isn't Jonny-boy just like our own personal little BoLS RSS Feed?
Good news though is the price of the Stompa. Same as the Baneblade, not more.
BYE
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Post by: Nurglitch
So all we're missing is a breakdown of the parts.
Should be interesting to see how compatible it is with the Trukk and the Battlewagon.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
How compatible could it be, really?
The neck is probably a standard turret ring and on the top of the head is a standard hatch. Maybe the shoulders are also standard turret rings, like on the Defiler, but I doubt it given the weight of the arms.
I find it unlikely that there would be any other bitz deliberately designed to be swappable with other kits.
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Post by: Nuclear Mekanik
lord_blackfang wrote:How compatible could it be, really?
The neck is probably a standard turret ring and on the top of the head is a standard hatch. Maybe the shoulders are also standard turret rings, like on the Defiler, but I doubt it given the weight of the arms.
I find it unlikely that there would be any other bitz deliberately designed to be swappable with other kits.
The rumour mill has already churned out plenty of GW quotes that say the Trukk, Battlewaggon and Stompa are all designed for mish mash kitbashes and the many parts are meant to be interchangeable. GW and it's designers have finally cottoned on to the fact that, especially with Orks, the kits don't need to be true standalone one off pieces and are now designing them to be intermixed more and more. Take the Lootas and Burnas box set which needs an arm from the Boyz boxset. The turrets and ring mount items will be interchangeable between Stompa and Battlewagon, weapons, wheels, tracks etc are swappable between Trukk and BW, armour plates and glyphs are common to all three...
The people moaning and groaning about how plain this new Stompa looks are missing the point. This isn't meant to be a finished product. This is a blank canvas for all of your inner Meks to work from. No two Stompas should ever look the same. GW are giving you the oppurtunity to make sure yours doesn't end up looking like anyone elses.
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Post by: Tazok
With all due respect, the rumor mill said that ork trukks would be easily broken down into two warbuggies but this didn't turn out to be the case. Dave Taylor (formerly with GW) and the GW website said that the new nobz come with the parts to make a painboy, but having seen the sprue this is not true (yes, there are some arms that might be good conversions for painboyz, but there's no dirty syringe or doc tools).
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Post by: Nuclear Mekanik
I really don't get the people who moan about this stuff, we're talking about Orks here, right? You can scratchbuild pretty much anything, that's half the fun! What is it with everyone wanting to be spoonfed all the time? If you can't make a Painboy from the Nobs Box or two Buggies from the Trukk kit, then you might want to try collecting Team Ultramarines rather than Orks, as you clearly haven't got the hang of it yet!
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Post by: Tazok
Converting ork products should be a bonus, not a requirement.
I love converting minis, that's one of the best part's of this hobby for me, but releasing a kit that requires converting is a horrible business decision, especially for the prices that GW charges for its products.
"This isn't meant to be a finished product"
Then it shouldn't be released until it is.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
If you don't like converting....why you play Orks?
They are simply made for conversions! Be it simple stuff like head swaps to almighty kitbashes from 4 kits and 9 manufacturers, it doesn't matter. Everything about the models screams out CONVERT ME! And not in the bad way. Well. Maybe the bad way for Trakks and Buggies, which are arse by comparisson.
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Post by: malfred
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:If you don't like converting....why you play Orks?
Because they look fun to play?
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
I don't get the complaints.
After more than a decade, GW finally has a full family of Ork vehicles (including superheavy Stompa) with broadly interchangeable parts that are componentized to support conversion and kitbashing, and we're *still* not happy?
If that isn't enough for you, perhaps "the Hobby" isn't for you...
:S
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Post by: BrookM
Aye, it is getting tiring to hear people say that we should convert that table/stompa/model instead of buying the kit.
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Post by: Wehrkind
I actually agree with JHDD...
Even if you don't love GW's take on the trukk, battle wagon and stompa (!), you have to give them credit for not only finally finishing the ork line (well, ok, maybe not buggies), but doing it in a modular fashion that lets you mix and match things from the Codex army and Apocalypse book. That is just damned sexy.
I don't even have a proper ork army, but I even bought the trukk to make in to a LatD vehicle bash. It isn't as though you can't keep scratch building your stuff.
... now I need to go wash my hands.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Nuclear Mekanik wrote:I really don't get the people who moan about this stuff, we're talking about Orks here, right? You can scratchbuild pretty much anything, that's half the fun! What is it with everyone wanting to be spoonfed all the time? If you can't make a Painboy from the Nobs Box or two Buggies from the Trukk kit, then you might want to try collecting Team Ultramarines rather than Orks, as you clearly haven't got the hang of it yet!
Yes, pointing out GW's lies is clearly not getting the hang of it. The wheels are interchangeable between the Trukk and Battlewagon? Oh my god, think of the possibilities!
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Post by: Captain Vyper
I give them credit for doing what they said they would do. I have worked in several shop over the years and managed to feret out a few good reps over that time who really went after the good bits of info. One of which was the ork vehical lines, he told me they were a ways off ( years ago) but that they would be working on get them all compatable with each other, and that they were working it all out. So now they are on their way out and so far I am pleased. The stompa I want to see in person before I render my final judgement but have high hopes!
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Post by: dietrich
I don't know what amazes me more.
That they've made the stompa.
That someone finally sat down and thought everything through, and realized that making all the parts interchangeable was the way to go.
I wish the buggies were out. Then you could litterally just buy a couple boxes of everything, cut everything off the sprue, and it'd be like legos - but with glue.
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Post by: BrookM
Who knows? Buggies and Trakks could very well be a wave 3 release coming early 2010.
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Post by: Alpharius
Sure it's late, but while surfing around, well, HERE'S a Stompa!:
http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=37748
Wow!
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Post by: Teek
It's not in english, but here's the blog by the guy that did that stompa. His eye for detail is incredible, and his other work is pretty great too.
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Post by: Alpharius
An even nicer find!
I rather like the 'skirted' version, but his is quite good!
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Post by: Elusive71
I've always hate hate hated the orks' muumuu wearing titans (I'd love to see one done up in Hawaiian floral print though), so this kit is a huge let down for me. However, I'm stoked for the Warbosses out there, and I think it's damn cool of GW to have fleshed out the ork line like they have. Can't wait to see if they release plastic Imperial titan kits in the future. I'd love to see some looted Warhounds and Reavers.
P.S. I've posted some painting suggestions for the Stompa HERE.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
My fav line was this one:
" ... our email subscribers with exclusive hobby news and content. Infact, our subscribers received these Stompa images weeks ago."
... as did everyone else who has access to the Internet. Great work there GW. Really on the cutting edge of news and rumours. I love how willfully ignorant GW continues to be of the internet. I mean, back in the days of 2nd Ed I managed to get pics of the metal Sentinel, Fire Prism and Bloodthirster all before they were released, so much so that Red Shirts thought they were conversions and not real models. That was over a decade ago, and yet here they are still telling us how their newsletter contains exclusive information? Exclusive for maybe all of 3 minutes before someone uploads it here, to BoLS or at Warseer...
BYE
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Post by: CaptainRavenclaw
Stompy stomp stomp stompy
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Post by: Hammerziet
This looks pretty awesome to make, just a shame I don't collect Orks.
Wonder what GW will price this kit at...
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Post by: ungulateman
I keep saying, it's $US95.
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Post by: with an iron fist
ungulateman wrote:I keep saying, it's $US95.
After calculating the number of sprues and size of the box needed for a Reaver titan in plastic, you could be right.
Though GW will probably charge $120 for it. And by $120, I mean $120,000.
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Post by: BrookM
GW said that it would be the same as the Baneblade..
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
A *Reaver*? Ha, no.
That won't be in plastic until the Warhound *and* the Thawk are plastic.
So why even bother speculating on that as a basis.
Besides, GW has already confirmed the Stompa will be $95, like the Baneblade and Shadowsword.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
with an iron fist wrote:ungulateman wrote:I keep saying, it's $US95.
After calculating the number of sprues and size of the box needed for a Reaver titan in plastic, you could be right.
Though GW will probably charge $120 for it. And by $120, I mean $120,000.
It always amazes me how people keep speculating about things that have already been confirmed.
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Post by: BrookM
As we always say: Ignorance is bliss~! And having dung for brains also helps!
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Post by: typhus
i must nurglify it
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Post by: ultramarine1
just thinking- with the new super heavies coming out that stompa will Not be on the table very long. a few strength D's and that thing will have one big apoc fail.  
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Post by: !?
Well...they are made by orks, with bits of 'chewing gum and paper clips' to hold it together. Don't expect utter dominance.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
ultramarine1 wrote:just thinking- with the new super heavies coming out that stompa will Not be on the table very long. a few strength D's and that thing will have one big apoc fail.
A Shadowsword will have a harder time killing a Stompa than killing another Shadowsword, so I don't really see your point.
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Post by: jamunition
i wish you could use apoc in normal games like having a banblade in a 2,000 point game. Ahh well i gess it will always be a dream
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Post by: Pariah Press
ultramarine1 wrote:just thinking- with the new super heavies coming out that stompa will Not be on the table very long. a few strength D's and that thing will have one big apoc fail.
Well, isn't that was Strength D's are for?
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Post by: Cyporiean
jamunition wrote:i wish you could use apoc in normal games like having a banblade in a 2,000 point game. Ahh well i gess it will always be a dream
There is no point minimum for Apocalypse... I just did a 1750 Apoc game the other day, twas fun
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Post by: Flashman
Seen the Stompa! GW Southampton have received their kit, made it and and sprayed it. Suffice to say it looks very Stompy! I love the gretchin comm tower (little details always amuse me).
Strangely, when I was in GW Birmingham yesterday, they said they weren't getting theirs for another week.
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Post by: misfratz
jamunition wrote:i wish you could use apoc in normal games like having a banblade in a 2,000 point game. Ahh well i gess it will always be a dream
It's a game. Not a court. You can do what you like - as long as you can find a willing opponent.
I reckon a game with a Stompa - or any other super-heavy - versus a suitable quantity of more "normal" troops could be a fun basis for a scenario. You might want to make up some extra rules to help the lowly troops take the beast down, perhaps for booby traps and such-like, or just set-up the objectives of the scenario in an interesting way to provide a fun game.
Why do so many people take the rules as law?
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I had to play against a Stompa in a "normal" 2250 pts game at a tournament that allowed Apocalypse super-heavies. It didn't go so well. I think the 3000 pts minimum limit is there for a reason.
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Post by: two_heads_talking
Flashman wrote:Seen the Stompa! GW Southampton have received their kit, made it and and sprayed it. Suffice to say it looks very Stompy! I love the gretchin comm tower (little details always amuse me).
Strangely, when I was in GW Birmingham yesterday, they said they weren't getting theirs for another week.
I'd say the whole thing is strange in that it's not supposed to be out until March.. It's not even February yet...
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Post by: with an iron fist
two_heads_talking wrote:Flashman wrote:Seen the Stompa! GW Southampton have received their kit, made it and and sprayed it. Suffice to say it looks very Stompy! I love the gretchin comm tower (little details always amuse me).
Strangely, when I was in GW Birmingham yesterday, they said they weren't getting theirs for another week.
I'd say the whole thing is strange in that it's not supposed to be out until March.. It's not even February yet...
Inventory control at it's finest -
"Ow I stubbed my toe, who put that there! It smarts!"
"Stompa..."
"No, stubbed! It hurts!"
"Schedule says this goes out in March."
"Yeah it smarts! I should get some steel toed boots."
"No, March."
"Yeah it smarts! Yeesh, you deaf? Gimme that box, after I put it on the truck I'ma find out who left it on the floor!"
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Post by: Platuan4th
jamunition wrote:i wish you could use apoc in normal games like having a banblade in a 2,000 point game. Ahh well i gess it will always be a dream
You could always use the older Imperial Armor rules for the Baneblade, fits better into "regular" 40K than the Apoc version of the rules.
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Post by: Flashman
two_heads_talking wrote:Flashman wrote:Seen the Stompa! GW Southampton have received their kit, made it and and sprayed it. Suffice to say it looks very Stompy! I love the gretchin comm tower (little details always amuse me).
Strangely, when I was in GW Birmingham yesterday, they said they weren't getting theirs for another week.
I'd say the whole thing is strange in that it's not supposed to be out until March.. It's not even February yet...
Strange or not, it's there in all its plastic stompy glory. Should have asked to see the sprue really, to see what bits they'd left off. Put me in an Orky mood anyway and I left with the Grotz box. Really loving Ork plastics at the momet.
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Post by: misfratz
lord_blackfang wrote:I had to play against a Stompa in a "normal" 2250 pts game at a tournament that allowed Apocalypse super-heavies. It didn't go so well. I think the 3000 pts minimum limit is there for a reason.
Granted, at a tournament, when you aren't expecting it, and haven't crafted a scenario to accommodate it, then it could easily produce an unsatisfactory game.
We shouldn't let tournament's constrain our imagination when it comes to other games though.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Stompa kit in person. I'm wondering about how to go about making a wrecked Stompa...
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Post by: Scottywan82
Just remove the feet and slump the arms.
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Post by: reds8n
Here are the instructions for the Stompa-- many thanks to Col. Gravis of Warseer for the steal:
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Wow, I love the bitz / options page at the end - awesome!
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Looks like it'll be super easy to model interior detail.
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Post by: cuscus
Those feet are going to make for some interesting looted Monoliths.
Arrgh. Must stop this idea before I end up with an Ork army...
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Post by: two_heads_talking
There doesn't look to be too many weapons options..
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Post by: sonofruss
I will just use this
hehe
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Post by: Platuan4th
So it's not able to be made into a Mek or Klaw Stompa right out of the box like the older rumours? Pity.
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Post by: KingCracker
are you suprised at all that GW didnt keep a promise? it does look nice. but you all know that they will make conversion kits for those later tho... more money that way
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Post by: sonofruss
Lets see 4 monoliths two battlewagons two stompas and behold the gargant.
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Post by: Warboss Spleenstaba
i see possibilities.... excellent muahahahaa
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Post by: Waaagh_Gonads
Thanks for the assembly guide.
I've seen the sprue but we didn't have the assembly guide.
I'll let my friend know its here and Warseer to help him build it.
Very impressive.
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Post by: karlfranz
I'm very very sorry if this has been answered, but how much will it be? I don't have time to look through 6 pages. Will someone please tell me?
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Post by: sonofruss
Same as the baneblade.
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Post by: Reecius
$95 U.S.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
KingCracker wrote:are you suprised at all that GW didnt keep a promise? it does look nice. but you all know that they will make conversion kits for those later tho... more money that way
Promise? What promise? Did GW ever say all the variants would be included?
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Post by: reds8n
See how I laugh at the edit button !
pics of the sprues thanks to Mr. Warbosskurgan of Warseer
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Post by: lord_blackfang
A very sensible layout. One sprue for the CCW, 2 for the gun arm. It would take just 1 new sprue to make a Mek Stompa.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Righto! Two things chaps.
The body of the Klaw Stompa in Apocalypse Reloaded is *identical* to the plastic stompa (see the headlight of two Rhinos on the left pectoral area)....
And when I saw this, all I saw was a promising head shape for a Gargant made from an extensively hacked up Plastic Bucket....
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